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☞ Official SOPRANOS Thread (2 Viewers)

roarlions said:
. I also found it odd that in the movie they emphasized how much of an influence Dickie had on Tony while in the series I felt that Uncle Junior had a more important relationship with young Tony than Dickie did.
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What I found a really odd choice was entirely skipping over the time in his formative years where Tony's dad was in jail, which I would assume would be the primary period in which another father-figure in his life would have maximum impact. 

 
Finally have the time this afternoon to watch Many Saints.  From the first 15 minutes, I love it and knowing Chase he's going to make it for diehards so I assumemany will be disappointed.   :popcorn:  for the backstories 

 
brun said:
thought the movie was ok but mostly because I already had an interest in the characters
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Same.  The Junior plot twist was great and the actor playing him was fantastic.  He really was always a hater.  I just thoughht it was his old age in the show.  Also glad we got "never had the makings of a varsity athlete" quip in there.  That being said, made me cringe watching the actor trying so hard to portray a young Sil. 

 
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PinkydaPimp said:
I thought it was decent but you really need to have watched the show.  My wife was confused AF.

i need to do a rewatch now.

also how does harry link to the series?  I don’t recall.
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You really should rewatch it.  It's an amazing TV show.  I saw it again during Covid.  It's comedic elements may outweigh the drama with multiple viewings. 

 
Major said:
You really should rewatch it.  It's an amazing TV show.  I saw it again during Covid.  It's comedic elements may outweigh the drama with multiple viewings. 
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"So what, no ####in ziti now?" Came out blazing in episode 1.

I've probably posted that 12 times in this thread over the years. 

 
Major said:
You really should rewatch it.  It's an amazing TV show.  I saw it again during Covid.  It's comedic elements may outweigh the drama with multiple viewings. 
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Oh I’ve watched it like 3 times but my last time was years ago.  And yea the comedy is great. This show is basically about where i live and grew up.  They filmed a bunch around the corner from me.  

 
Diehard fan, thought it was between poor and terrible.  I can't tell you the last prequel/sequel I saw that was 5-15 years later that was good, but I had faith with Chase.

Virtually every character (who was based directly on someone from the show) felt massively overacted with the exception of Livia, who knocked it out of the park IMO (could have used more hand gestures.)  Johnny Boy non existent in the movie, and when he was, there you got cheese ball lines like "all I wanna do is bang my goomah and take a nap."  Sil and Paulie felt like they were trying too hard.  Dickie looked/sounded and felt more like a young Richie Aprile imo.  Liotta's characters were both blah and fairly pointless, with Uncle Sal as someone stated above merely serving as a Melfi-lite for the movie.  

Zero development of the relationship between the Sopranos and Dickie and as to WHY the entire family, Livia included, apparently worshipped the guy.  Meanwhile the entire plot line focuses on Dickie, yet not much is accomplished other than him taking out a few people very close to him.  The Harold plot line seemed forced, and never given a proper backstory.

Continuity wise - I don't understand "the twist" at the end.  In the series, so much of Chris' loyalty to and love for Tony is centered on what Tony did for him - i.e. give him the man who killed Dickie.  Why change that entirely for the movie as if this never happened in the series?  The movie literally ends with Chris saying "that's the man I went to hell for" which is a direct reference to Chris saying he would go to hell for Tony for allowing him to exact revenge on his father's killer in the series.  But yea.....let's make Jun responsible instead because Hollywood.

Also, how are Sil and #### completely established soldiers the entire movie - yet during the series, they're all roughly the same age with daughters/sons all the same age?  Maybe I'm nitpicking, but man this felt sloppy and rushed.

 
Major said:
You really should rewatch it.  It's an amazing TV show.  I saw it again during Covid.  It's comedic elements may outweigh the drama with multiple viewings. 
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Remember when Junior is whooping that guy over the Checkers insult and his shoe goes flyin, lol.  The show was hysterical 

 
I think the big picture problem with the film is David Chase is more of a TV guy.  I read somewhere he signed a 5 year deal with HBO so this could just be a teaser 🤞

 
Major said:
It's comedic elements may outweigh the drama with multiple viewings. 
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Tony finds out that he has a long lost uncle who was institutionalized. He talks to Junior about his mother and father arguing and says: she kept talking about my father's feeble-minded brother but I always thought she meant you.

 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
Tony finds out that he has a long lost uncle who was institutionalized. He talks to Junior about his mother and father arguing and says: she kept talking about my father's feeble-minded brother but I always thought she meant you.
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Just thought of that line the other day.  Junior's face afterwards is priceless.

 
Kiddnets said:
Very disappointed....but at least we finally verified that Tony never had the makings of a varsity athlete.  
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Yeah, after I had some time to judge it independently, it's just not that good of a film.  The 5-6 episode mini series (as many of you mentioned) would've been perfect but read somewhere Chase saw this as a film and not a cable tv thing.  He's pissed it aired on HBOMax.  

 
I'll try to say this nicely: The Many Saints of Newark was...not good. The movie worked diligently to pull in lots of characters and references from the show. That was fun. The acting was fine. The stunt casting of Gandolfini's son was ok, but he isn't much of an actor - and this was a series that featured a ton of great acting. I'm not going to call this movie terrible because it was too well made to be terrible. Big letdown. Very disappointing.

 
Major said:
Yeah, after I had some time to judge it independently, it's just not that good of a film.  The 5-6 episode mini series (as many of you mentioned) would've been perfect but read somewhere Chase saw this as a film and not a cable tv thing.  He's pissed it aired on HBOMax.  
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I can't imagine thinking this thing deserves to be seen "on the big screen".

It's not cinematic, it's shot like an episode of the show.

And it's not a stand-alone movie. The story would never hold its own if it wasn't "A Sopranos Movie". It doesn't deserve the theater treatment. This was a TV movie, and a bad one at that.

 
Runkle said:
And it's not a stand-alone movie. The story would never hold its own if it wasn't "A Sopranos Movie". It doesn't deserve the theater treatment. This was a TV movie, and a bad one at that.
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I was trying to be diplomatic in my negative review, but yes - the movie was very disappointing. 

 
I'm not saying David Chase just phoned this one is as a blatant cash grab.

However, if HBO had taken the show away from him, and hired some C-level script doctor to explicitly write a blatant cash grab fan service movie for a streaming service... I'm having a hard time picturing how it would look different than what we got. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
It’s weird because most of the pre-release reviews were pretty good, but I have not seen a single regular person give a good review. 
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I watched it last night. I wouldn't say it was great, but it was pretty darn good and gave some nice backstories while letting us re-live the Sopranos world a bit. If they made a sequel I would watch. 

 
Runkle said:
I can't imagine thinking this thing deserves to be seen "on the big screen".

It's not cinematic, it's shot like an episode of the show.

And it's not a stand-alone movie. The story would never hold its own if it wasn't "A Sopranos Movie". It doesn't deserve the theater treatment. This was a TV movie, and a bad one at that.
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Agree that it would have been better as a mini-series. They tried to cram way too much into the allotted time that it was hard to follow at times. 

 
However, I did get a copy of Sopranos Monopoly sent to me, so I got that going. I like the Stugots piece, my girlfriend plays as the little duck from Tony's pool. 

 
Agree with most of y'all's takes on the movie. I thought it really drove home the limits of movies vs. TV series. On the show we had multiple seasons of getting to know Tony as a character, which made the cognitive dissonance of feeling sympathy for him even as he behaved monstrously all the more powerful. (There's a reason "College" is most people's favorite episode.) In the movie, we don't have nearly the same amount of emotion invested in Dickie, so when he keeps murdering people close to him all it does is make him more repellent. I don't know what was I supposed to feel when he gets shot, but I felt nothing.  

 
I saw an interview with Ben Kingsley, and one of the questions asked was if there were any roles he regretted turning down. He said there was, but he didn't want to name names out of respect for the actors who took on the role.

I am guessing Cleaver is on that list. How did Kingsley ever resist the overtures of those two movie moguls Little Carmine and Chrissy.

The Ring meets The Godfather

They didn't have a script but they got a guy from TV who has written for Nash Bridges, Hooperman and Law & Order: The SUV.

A finished script wasn't needed anyway, as Little Carmine eloquently phrased, "We wanted to surmise your interest and then tailor the part to your specificities."

 
otb_lifer said:
still waiting on somebody to cobble an Aprile family "member" theory as the triggerman ... after all, the Sopranos did take out Richie & Jackie Jr., along with Adrianna, who was Richie's niece. 

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A pint of blood is worth more than a gallon of gold

 
Just read that Tony Sirico passed away.  RIP to one of the funniest tv characters of all-time.  I heard he was interior decorator as well.  

 
Major said:
Just read that Tony Sirico passed away.  RIP to one of the funniest tv characters of all-time.  I heard he was interior decorator as well.  
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Word is that he is still angry at the Russians in the afterlife for moving those nuclear warheads into Cuba and pointing them right at us. 

R.I.P. 

 
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