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This mason mount false 9 lineup is just wild
Lets pay that much for Sesko to play Mount in there instead. I don't get it.
Wish United would have sold Bruno.
That money could have funded a lot and helped reduce the net spend banter. BUT right now I wish Amorim would be a bit ruthless with him and sub him for Mainoo. Bruno does deserve a longer leash, but the manager needs to show everyone can be yanked and promote the competition for spots. Esp when you have a talent like Mainoo there. Not sure he's a 6 or a good pair with Bruno. But both Casemiro and Ugarte are not showing much more.
 
The whole "11 minutes of injury time?!?!?" thing on the socials after the game yesterday did me in. You could tell from watching the game it was going to be a really big number.

Thankfully, someone did my homework for me...
  • Tonali shoulder injury took 3m12s from when Simon Hopper blew the whistle to when play restarted.
  • Tonali head injury 1m12s
  • Joelinton injury and being subbed off 3m56s
  • Schär's injury took 3m14s
Those alone total 11m34 seconds.

There were also two goals and four substitution windows (with 7 players coming on) used in the 2nd half. Based on Opta, the ball was only in play 40.8% of the 90, which is one of the lowest ever in the league.
 
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The whole "11 minutes of injury time?!?!?" thing on the socials after the game yesterday did me in. You could tell from watching the game it was going to be a really big number.

Thankfully, someone did my homework for me...
  • Tonali shoulder injury took 3m12s from when Simon Hopper blew the whistle to when play restarted.
  • Tonali head injury 1m12s
  • Joelinton injury and being subbed off 3m56s
  • Schär's injury took 3m14s
Those alone total 11m34 seconds.

There were also two goals and four substitution windows (with 7 players coming on) used in the 2nd half. Based on Opta, the ball was only in play 40.8% of the 90, which is one of the lowest ever in the league.
I don't doubt it adds up. I wonder if the non-big clubs (I won't ever call NU small) get the same "full" amount of extra time their bigger brethren get. As long as it's consistent, I'm all for playing out the right amount- but at a shaky memory gut level, I feel like it's not. and none of that takes away from a gorgeously worked goal (the dummy on the spot was mrrrow) for the winner.
 
I wonder if the non-big clubs (I won't ever call NU small) get the same "full" amount of extra time their bigger brethren get.
Fair. I bet not.

Would be easyish to look at 2nd half stoppage time for the last couple years for LFC, City, Arsenal and Chelsea when tied or losing vs stoppage time for the rest of the league while tied or losing. Maybe with Spurs, United, Newcastle and Villa taken out entirely.
 
The whole "11 minutes of injury time?!?!?" thing on the socials after the game yesterday did me in. You could tell from watching the game it was going to be a really big number.

Thankfully, someone did my homework for me...
  • Tonali shoulder injury took 3m12s from when Simon Hopper blew the whistle to when play restarted.
  • Tonali head injury 1m12s
  • Joelinton injury and being subbed off 3m56s
  • Schär's injury took 3m14s
Those alone total 11m34 seconds.

There were also two goals and four substitution windows (with 7 players coming on) used in the 2nd half. Based on Opta, the ball was only in play 40.8% of the 90, which is one of the lowest ever in the league.
2025 and we still don't have the common sense ability to inform the audience of how much added time is being accrued as the game progresses. Drives me nuts.

I continue to believe players time waste because they know the refs never account for all of it. The last WC, IMO, did the best job with this, but for some reason all the leagues ignored how FIFA instructed the refs to act during the WC.

Some have speculated that many leagues are bound to a 2 hour time window for TV and fear that tracking the correct wasted time would see them over flow too often and go beyond 2 hours. This probably means less and less as we move more into a streaming world.
 
Yeah, I didn't get the ref letting all that stuff go in real time. The fact that Tonali did himself in after a dive whilst in the middle of that crap was USA-beats-Guatemala-in-injury-time level justice for me.

Looked an awful lot like an Everton game TBH. Right down to the epic victory of a 2-2 tie, until Rio got involved.
 
ridiculous shove
He's dancing on the edge there IMO, anything that looks like an intentional foul is risky on a yellow, but if that were called a yellow in this game? Newcastle would have finished with six players.
I forget if either of you played?

my 2c. when you're running side-by-side or nearish to that, you use your hand and arm out to gain position. it's not "pushing", more "leaning". you're keepign it firm out to keep the other player from entering the space you're trying to win. they're always contact with it. and if the other player throws themself to the ground, or repositions themself in another way, your hand will follow- not in a push, just as if you've been leaning on something and that something moves.

that's very clearly what I see happening here after watching a few times. not even close to a push.
 
I know nothing about futbol. But man does it feel like this guy was just in WAY over his head from the start. Obviously the players are not playing well......but whatever his "system" is has just flat out never worked. It should have worked accidentally for a game or 2 at some point.

They can fire him now or fire him in December. Its gonna happen at some point.
 
Saw videos of the goals...

Amad and Ugarte collide, the ball goes the other way, cross field, and a diagonal back and Dalot is no where to be found on def and Onana can not be bothered to make a save.
Question on if Amad was pushed into Ugarte or not, but regardless, Dalot and Onana are crap.

Cross in and Onana flails and takes out his own player. Question on whether there was a handball by Grimby, but he isnt the one that scores. Regardless, Onana is crap.


When you have to wonder if even a simple pass back is going to end up in your own net, you can not play as good as you need. You pucker and tense and feel you have to be perfect. Its very deflating when you constantly have to deal with howlers. If Onana was competent, its still 0-0 and you have a chance. Now you are chasing and pressing instead of playing.

Onana needs to go before Amorim.
 
Heck if Wehen Wiesbaden of the German 3rd division can come back from 2-0 down to level it vs Bayern, surely United can do the same vs mighty Grimsby
 
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