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10/29 Childress leaning toward starting T.Jackson for Week 8 (1 Viewer)
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I know it would be huge if he did miss a game, but didn't Cal Ripken take a day off at some time before he retired? I am a firm believer that Favre really pushes for this streak to continue (no evidence), and I also think it cost Mangini his job (I am sure they were aware Favre's arm was hurting when they were 8-3) with NY and he kept pushing them to play. I know it makes news when something like this ends during a season, but the streak will end at some point (when he retires), so why not now?
In a weird way, I take my hat off to Childress. No one wants to be the guy that pulls the plug, and if Jackson plays poorly, Childress is going to get even more heat, but it seems like the right thing to do; rest him up if you really still feel you have a chance at the playoffs.
In a weird way, I take my hat off to Childress. No one wants to be the guy that pulls the plug, and if Jackson plays poorly, Childress is going to get even more heat, but it seems like the right thing to do; rest him up if you really still feel you have a chance at the playoffs.
Clifford
Footballguy
Like Chilly has the authority to bench Favre 
The thing to do is let Favre try to play. They sold their souls to bring this guy in two years in a row. Play him and if he can't get it done then pull him, but you don't make a decision to end his streak for him. Let him try and if he can't get it done it will be evident quickly. Streak stays alive, no controversy with the golden boy QB they had to have, and then if Chilly does have to put in TJ he protects himself from the criticism he would inevitably get if TJ sux.
The thing to do is let Favre try to play. They sold their souls to bring this guy in two years in a row. Play him and if he can't get it done then pull him, but you don't make a decision to end his streak for him. Let him try and if he can't get it done it will be evident quickly. Streak stays alive, no controversy with the golden boy QB they had to have, and then if Chilly does have to put in TJ he protects himself from the criticism he would inevitably get if TJ sux.
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Couch Potato
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Childress and Favre hate each other. I think Chilly would enjoy ending Favre's streak, and he'll be happy when he's gone. Thing is, after this year they'll both be gone.
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Cal Ripken ended his streak on his own. It was his decision alone when to stop his streak.
TheAristocrat
Footballguy
I don't think Childress has the authority to choose the team's starting quarterback.
I know this is not going to be popular and I'm going to get slammed for it, but...I'm not even sure Favre should be benched. The NFL has already pretty much admitted to screwing up calls in the Viking's last game that would have resulted in a Minnesota victory. If the Vikings would have won that game (and obviously that is a BIG if), would we really be talking about a Favre benching here?He's a shell of the man he used to be I know -- and he's always good for a pick or two -- but as odd as it sounds, that still doesn't mean he's not the best man to start this Sunday.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
And it should have ended way before it did. If Cals dad was not the manager early in his career there would never had been a streak.
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packersfan
Footballguy
I'm a big Favre fan and I agree if the officials hadn't screwed up we'd be looking at him and the Vikings in a much different light this week. That said, I think he needs to be sat. Even if you include the Shiancoe TD which he should have gotten, Favre still made some terrible throws, made poor decisions in the pocket and isn't looking sharp at all. He has faced two vulnerable defenses the last two games (not to mention Detroit earlier in the season) and he has struggled to mount an effective passing attack. So while the Vikings have an even more appealing matchup this week against a bad NE pass defense, I'm not sure Favre has it in him right now to take advantage. I don't think Tarvaris Jackson is any good but I think the Vikings need to sit Favre and see if Jackson can provide a spark. It just isn't happening with Favre. Blame it on injuries, age, a suspect line, poor coaching, all of the above or whatever I really think it's time for him to sit down for a game or two and get healthy and see if anything changes with Jackson. I don't think it will but it's not happening with Favre right now.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Why? Farve is playing horrible right now and he is injured.
Tigerbot Hesh
Footballguy
Favre is such an egomaniac I doubt he ever chooses to bench himself. He will make the coaching staff decide that he sits, and then he can always play the 'I thought I could still go' card against the mean ol' coaching staff making him sit.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Then wash and repeat that process the next week?Clifford said:
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Clifford
Footballguy
Or don't. If he plays and Chilly has to pull him then he would be much more justified in benching him. But we are talking about ending the greatest streak in professional sports when you already have the team turning against the coach, ESPN just waiting for any drama to report on, and of course a HOF QB with a penchant for the dramatic public appearance.Not giving Favre the chance to decide if he starts or not may actually be the dumbest move Chilly has ever made, and that is saying a LOT.
moondog said:
He took the day off and watched the game from the dugout and the bull pen. He reflected on how many years he'd been on the field (literally, 162 game season = 1/2 a year). Ripken's streak will likely never be broken, IMO. Favre's may not ever be, but it is more in reach than Ripken's, IMO.
Clifford
Footballguy
Well, looks like this little debate is over
Favre practices Friday, takes first-team reps
Brett Favre (ankle) returned to practice Friday and took all of the first-team reps during the media-access portion of the workout.
ESPN's Ed Werder predicts that Favre will start at New England, citing "the expectation of everyone" in the Vikings' organization. Werder noted that Favre got around "with a noticeable limp" in his high-top cleats, but looks poised to lead Minnesota onto the field against the Patriots. Randy Moss and Percy Harvin appear safe to use in fantasy leagues. Favre, though, is just our No. 16 quarterback for the week. Oct. 29 - 1:07 pm et
Favre practices Friday, takes first-team reps
Brett Favre (ankle) returned to practice Friday and took all of the first-team reps during the media-access portion of the workout.
ESPN's Ed Werder predicts that Favre will start at New England, citing "the expectation of everyone" in the Vikings' organization. Werder noted that Favre got around "with a noticeable limp" in his high-top cleats, but looks poised to lead Minnesota onto the field against the Patriots. Randy Moss and Percy Harvin appear safe to use in fantasy leagues. Favre, though, is just our No. 16 quarterback for the week. Oct. 29 - 1:07 pm et
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
As I posted in another thread is that Ripkin would have never had a streak had his dad not been the manager in his early years in MLB.moondog said:
Are you sure about that? His dad was only manager for a year and 6 games. I think you'reAs I posted in another thread is that Ripkin would have never had a streak had his dad not been the manager in his early years in MLB.moondog said:He took the day off and watched the game from the dugout and the bull pen. He reflected on how many years he'd been on the field (literally, 162 game season = 1/2 a year). Ripken's streak will likely never be broken, IMO. Favre's may not ever be, but it is more in reach than Ripken's, IMO.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
time 2 bench moss holla
Point taken...I guess I meant, it may well have resulted in a Vikings victory. But we obviously do not know for sure.Either way, I think he gives you a better chance to win this Sunday than Jackson.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
This is all just a ploy to motivate Brett Favre's tendons.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...just a pet peeve in situations like that where people claim it would automatically mean the other team would win when nobody knows how a team like Green Bay would react or how it would have affected their deicisions later (going for it on 4th at the 34) or the fake FG and so on.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
The last time the Vikings played the Patriots, the Pats won 31-7. Brady stayed in the shotgun for the majority of the game and proceeded to pick apart the Vikings secondary. They hardly ever even attempted to run the ball. The way Jared Allen and company has been playing this season I see no reason why they won't do it again. The Vikings secondary is not good enough to stop them.
Childress will need the offense to keep pace and he doesn't trust TJax to get it done. I expect that he will go with an injured Favre despite his earlier comments.
Childress will need the offense to keep pace and he doesn't trust TJax to get it done. I expect that he will go with an injured Favre despite his earlier comments.
Sinrman
Footballguy
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Any chance he tries to bench him?
bakes
I am the Beer God!
A lot is going to depend on how Favre's ankle looks in practice - it doesn't sound like the hit to the chin caused any concussion-like symptoms. If he's fine in practice I can't see Chilly benching him, but then nothing would surprise me at this point. He could bring back Joe Kapp and bench ADP for Grady Alderman and I wouldn't blink an eye,
It could never, ever happen. Favre would just tell Jackson to go sit down and he'd take the field. Childress has no power over Favre. And he hates him as a result.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
I hope Farve gets benched because I am out of options at QB. Jackson against the Cards would give me something atleast
bollocks28
Footballguy
Joint Chilly/Favre Press conference in a little over 10 minutes...
sho nuff
Footballguy
Usual Wednesday presser?
packersfan
Footballguy
I thought Favre played well last week. If he's healthy I'd be surprised if he didn't start this week.Then again, it's the Vikings. It wouldn't surprise me if they benched Peterson at this point.
I'm pretty sure it's the regular press conference. Lots to talk about with Moss / Favre but it's nothing special.And Favre starts every game he says he's healthy enough to give the team the best chance to win. Favre makes that decision. Not Childress.J
bollocks28
Footballguy
Sorry forgot which thread I was in and what my statement may have implied. Despite that I would hardly call this the "usual" Wednesday presser... CHilly looks mighty uncomfortable.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
actually, he does..Vikings owner apparently didn't know about Moss' release and the fact that Chilly released/waived him..it's a powerplay by Chilly...`it's me or him` ( Moss and now Favre).Like Chilly has the authority to bench Favre
The thing to do is let Favre try to play. They sold their souls to bring this guy in two years in a row. Play him and if he can't get it done then pull him, but you don't make a decision to end his streak for him. Let him try and if he can't get it done it will be evident quickly. Streak stays alive, no controversy with the golden boy QB they had to have, and then if Chilly does have to put in TJ he protects himself from the criticism he would inevitably get if TJ sux.
sometimes the coach has to do certain things to restore order in the locker room....this is Chilly's way of doing so..if he 'can't' start TJ over Favre, at least he can tell his next employer 'see, I didn't have the authority to do the things I wanted to do , therefore we weren't as good as we could have been during my time there'. it kind of shows others that the collapse isn't really his fault..
Vikings are not about the` Favre consecutive games started` record
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I truly believe at this point in time the team would be better served with Tarvaris at qb. And with what is probably a lost season, I'm sure Vikings fans will always be able to point to the fact their team ended Favre's streak...
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
*moonwalks*
