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Exactly this. And that was WITH the threat of a potential pass.
An NFL RB and a lot of NFL QBs could. It takes some one with great balance and leg drive in addition to the line push.I would believe that any NFL RB behind the Phi line doing the rugby scrum for 10 consecutive plays will easily gain 10 yds against the worst D-line in the league.Most NFL rbs couldn't do this and some of you had the audacity to say, maybe if I were younger. None of us could do it now or 30 years ago.
What are some of yall smoking?
This is where I think we differ. That is not to say Joe Blow Message Board guy can do it but I don't think it takes 'great balance and great leg drive' from the QB spot to do this. I think the rugby scrum for the offense is a distinct advantage because they deliver the blow to the DL and can get a minimum of a yard most of the time and likely to get two or three (or more) on occasion. I believe the "QB" can just be a football holder and ride the wave for these type of gains. I equally may be wrong in this viewpoint but I think many teams will succeed at this play this year and that it wasn't just the superior Eagles line and a QB that squats 10000 lbs being the reson the Eagles were successful.
I can give you that - but the main point here is guys on the board would be getting bent over backwards and twisted and hurt. There is some modicum of athleticism that must be present - and even guys that were relatively unathletic by NFL standards like Brady or Eli Manning are way more athletic than any of us.
I’d bet the under on 5 yards.An NFL RB and a lot of NFL QBs could. It takes some one with great balance and leg drive in addition to the line push.I would believe that any NFL RB behind the Phi line doing the rugby scrum for 10 consecutive plays will easily gain 10 yds against the worst D-line in the league.Most NFL rbs couldn't do this and some of you had the audacity to say, maybe if I were younger. None of us could do it now or 30 years ago.
What are some of yall smoking?
I won’t say no one here could - I don’t know everyone’s athletic builds or training - but I think most here who think it’s achievable for them are fooling themselves. Seriously so.
I agree with most of what you're saying, but the it would make a difference because the threat of Hurts throwing to Brown/Smith keeps the corners out of the scrum. The OP kind of ruin this by saying the defense knows it will be a run. I just don't see a feasible way to gain 10 yards given this constraint.
One of the problems in this hypothetical exercise is how "normal" would these plays be run? For example, if I'm coaching the offense and am limited to running and plan to simply call the wedge play, I'm pulling the WRs off the field and adding more beefy offensive linemen. And while we're at it, I might even pull in some athletic defensive lineman to put in the backfield to help push the pile. Conversely, the defense would likely pull their defensive backs and go with 6 D-linemen and 5 LBers. At that point, none of that would really fall under the category of a "normal" play. In this configuration, the offense could have 10 guys weighing 3,250 lbs and the FBG representative. That would be a far cry from a normal scheme.
Eli Apple isn’t meeting you at the line of scrimmage. If the first person that hits you is in the secondary on these runs congrats you are winning 10M
I don't know what I was thinking when I said an NFL back couldn't do it.An NFL RB and a lot of NFL QBs could. It takes some one with great balance and leg drive in addition to the line push.I would believe that any NFL RB behind the Phi line doing the rugby scrum for 10 consecutive plays will easily gain 10 yds against the worst D-line in the league.Most NFL rbs couldn't do this and some of you had the audacity to say, maybe if I were younger. None of us could do it now or 30 years ago.
What are some of yall smoking?
I won’t say no one here could - I don’t know everyone’s athletic builds or training - but I think most here who think it’s achievable for them are fooling themselves. Seriously so.
You didn't read the rules.
New England with Mac Jones and a high school level offensive line has started running this play successfully. Jones has a middle-age, beer-belly dad bod and is the furthest thing from an elite athlete as you can get. He has yet to be crushed and placed in an ICU. If that combination can do it, I don't see why one of us can't sub in for Mac and Cheese Jones.
