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Sloop John Bender should jump in and draft. His taste is sorely missing in this draft.
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1970s music draft- Link to google spreadsheet in first post (2 Viewers)
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HellToupee
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Bob Dylan nails is about Desperadoes Undercthe Eaves
"His musical patterns are all over the place, probably because he's classically trained. There might be three separate songs within a Zevon song, but they're all effortlessly connected. Zevon was a musician's musician, a tortured one. 'Desperados Under the Eaves.' It's all in there." - Bob Dylan
Mister CIA
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worrierking
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When Zevon was dying of cancer in 2002, Dylan began covering some of his songs in concert. He did Lawyer's Guns and Money, Mutineer and Accidentally Like a Martyr, from which he had taken the line "time out of mind" as an album title. Zevon reflected that it was almost worth it (terminal cancer) to have Dylan covering his songs. By this time, Dylan's voice resembled an Evinrude outboard at 6000 RPMs being dragged over sandpaper, so the covers were unlistenable, but if Dylan likes your songs, you're good.
worrierking
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I am sorry I couldn't take this one. My favorite Elvis album and song (This Year's Girl)
Mister CIA
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KarmaPolice
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KarmaPolice
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Was thinking about a few albums for this pick, but will grab the one from one of the two genres that I have a pretty shallow list for.
6.xx: GANG OF FOUR - Entertainment! (punk/post-punk album)
6.xx: GANG OF FOUR - Entertainment! (punk/post-punk album)
Eephus
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6.xx Jeff Beck - Blow by Blow (1975 album)
Blow by Blow is fusion music that approaches from the direction of rock instead of jazz. Teenage Eephus dug jazz rock during his HS band years in the 70s but disavowed himself of both when he got cooler in the 80s. I returned to fusion in the download era after listening to a lot of earlier jazz in the intervening years and found myself a lot less forgiving of fusion's excesses. Beck keeps it concise and melodic here and avoids the tendency of jazz rock guitarists to noodle endlessly through eleven minute songs about dragons battling guru Sri Chimnoy.
Beck's guitar is at the center of everything. Beck sounds absolutely liberated by not having a singer hogging the spotlight. He displays his technical proficiency especially on "Scatterbrain" and sounds equally at home with funk, blues and rock. He takes most of the solo space but gets solid support from the trio of Max Middleton on keyboards, Phil Chen bass and 17 year old drummer Richard Bailey. Middleton is the secret weapon on the record. He'd been playing with Beck for five years (Beck, Bogert & Appice excluded) and compliments his talents perfectly. Beck's later pairing with Jan Hammer was nowhere near as successful.
George Martin contributes one of his finest productions in his long career capturing all of Beck's many guitar sounds in a live sounding soundstage. One reason it's aged well is because Middleton sticks to Rhodes and Clavinet rather than primitive 70s synths that would immediately date the record.
This is an incredible guitar album.
Blow by Blow is fusion music that approaches from the direction of rock instead of jazz. Teenage Eephus dug jazz rock during his HS band years in the 70s but disavowed himself of both when he got cooler in the 80s. I returned to fusion in the download era after listening to a lot of earlier jazz in the intervening years and found myself a lot less forgiving of fusion's excesses. Beck keeps it concise and melodic here and avoids the tendency of jazz rock guitarists to noodle endlessly through eleven minute songs about dragons battling guru Sri Chimnoy.
Beck's guitar is at the center of everything. Beck sounds absolutely liberated by not having a singer hogging the spotlight. He displays his technical proficiency especially on "Scatterbrain" and sounds equally at home with funk, blues and rock. He takes most of the solo space but gets solid support from the trio of Max Middleton on keyboards, Phil Chen bass and 17 year old drummer Richard Bailey. Middleton is the secret weapon on the record. He'd been playing with Beck for five years (Beck, Bogert & Appice excluded) and compliments his talents perfectly. Beck's later pairing with Jan Hammer was nowhere near as successful.
George Martin contributes one of his finest productions in his long career capturing all of Beck's many guitar sounds in a live sounding soundstage. One reason it's aged well is because Middleton sticks to Rhodes and Clavinet rather than primitive 70s synths that would immediately date the record.
This is an incredible guitar album.
Buzzbait
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[SIZE=10.5pt]6.21 - Joni Mitchell Blue (Singer/Songwriter album) [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]7.01 - Lynyrd Skynyrd (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd) (1973 album)[/SIZE][SIZE=18pt] [/SIZE]
Couldn't pass up JM Blue any longer (esp since I didn't have a Singer/Songwriter album)
The Skynyrd album was a tough choice with another 1973 album that I'm sure will be picked. There are several in the 70s that play like a greatest hits and with Free Bird, Gimme Three Steps, Tuesday's Gone, Simple Man, etc this fits the bill. Southern Rock at it's finest!
Get your lighters out. FREE BIRD!!!!!
[SIZE=10.5pt]7.01 - Lynyrd Skynyrd (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd) (1973 album)[/SIZE][SIZE=18pt] [/SIZE]
Couldn't pass up JM Blue any longer (esp since I didn't have a Singer/Songwriter album)
The Skynyrd album was a tough choice with another 1973 album that I'm sure will be picked. There are several in the 70s that play like a greatest hits and with Free Bird, Gimme Three Steps, Tuesday's Gone, Simple Man, etc this fits the bill. Southern Rock at it's finest!
Get your lighters out. FREE BIRD!!!!!
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Tom Skerritt
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6.20 Dire Straits - self-titled debut (album 1978)
The album that gave us Sultans of Swing, IMHO is their finest album. Not a bad song throughout. Knopffler quite possibly the most underrated guitar player, comparable to Clapton.
The album that gave us Sultans of Swing, IMHO is their finest album. Not a bad song throughout. Knopffler quite possibly the most underrated guitar player, comparable to Clapton.
Uruk-Hai
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otb_lifer
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just checked spreadsheet out, need following corrections on my picks:
RAW POWER - Iggy and the Stooges: change to 1973 album (it currently says wildcard)
WAR - Edwin Starr: change to soul/funk/disco song (it currently says soul/funk/disco album)
my last pick of Lou Reed- TRANSFORMER will be my wildcard album selection.
TIA
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FUBAR
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I was really close to taking Skynard the last few rounds and this was one of three I had written up when I took Damn the Torpedoes. Frankly, the spotlighting was annoying - not that we all didn't consider the pick at some point but with the spotlight it was sure to be taken before my next pick.
KarmaPolice
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Thought both of these would be gone by now too. I think we are at that point in the draft that we always seem to go through. Seems like the first two round go for top picks like they should, then we get a few rounds of people getting stuff they love, but might not be the obvious choices in categories, and now we get a lot of "I can't believe that album is still there" picks.
timschochet
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Thank you for keeping the spreadsheet up Buzzbait. I just have had no time for this. You've been awesome.
Blue is an incredible album to listen to.
Blue is an incredible album to listen to.
KarmaPolice
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Yet another I was looking at - love this album. My short list took a bit hit with the last few picks.
Buzzbait
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Yeah, I get that but I can assure you the spotlighting didn't impact my pick. I had it on my radar and it just came down to this one or another 1973 album (which I will not spotlight
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Rove!
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Yeah, I get that but I can assure you the spotlighting didn't impact my pick. I had it on my radar and it just came down to this one or another 1973 album (which I will not spotlight
I think most of us had that band on our radar already....
Tom Skerritt
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7.02 Heart - Little Queen (album 1977)
If only for the song "Love Alive", but this album also gives us Baracuda, Kick it Out, and Little Queen.
If only for the song "Love Alive", but this album also gives us Baracuda, Kick it Out, and Little Queen.
Eephus
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worrierking
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7.05 Graham Parker & The Rumour-Squeezing Out Sparks (1979 Album)
He dismissed his horn section and the pub-rock sound of his first three albums for a grittier guitar-based effort befitting his snarling vocal style. The result is tremendous. Local Girls and Protection were the excellent singles released, but the highlights were the opener Discovering Japan and the controversial and frank treatment of an abortion in You Can't be Too Strong.
Others prefer his first two albums and they are more representative of his typical sound (and I like them both), but this is his greatest output. No bad tracks. Even the happy songs sound full of spite.
He dismissed his horn section and the pub-rock sound of his first three albums for a grittier guitar-based effort befitting his snarling vocal style. The result is tremendous. Local Girls and Protection were the excellent singles released, but the highlights were the opener Discovering Japan and the controversial and frank treatment of an abortion in You Can't be Too Strong.
Others prefer his first two albums and they are more representative of his typical sound (and I like them both), but this is his greatest output. No bad tracks. Even the happy songs sound full of spite.
FUBAR
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Buzzbait
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Album Category
Album Name
Song Name
1970
Fun House
1971
Who's Next
1972
Eat a Peach
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
Excitable Boy
1979
Overkill
Soft Rock/Singer Songwriter
Harvest
hard rock/classic rock
funk/soul/Disco
ABC
punk/post-punk
WC
Album Name
Song Name
1970
Fun House
1971
Who's Next
1972
Eat a Peach
1973
1974
1975
1976
1977
1978
Excitable Boy
1979
Overkill
Soft Rock/Singer Songwriter
Harvest
hard rock/classic rock
funk/soul/Disco
ABC
punk/post-punk
WC
Tom Skerritt
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Buzzbait
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Good time to mention that I've updated the online spreadsheet to show the # picked per category.
dal_boys_phan
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I think I am up and this is still available...but before my pick, my theme is artists I have seen in concert and I am only picking each artist once in either the album or song category. So, since I never saw Zep, I can't pick them, but since I just saw this band on Saturday, I think they are now considered "draft eligible".
7.06 - Bad Company - Bad Company (1974 album)
Someone spotlighted earlier that this was a bad year for albums, so I think it's time this one goes off the board.
Great show BTW, Paul Rodgers still has "it" - too bad they went on before Joe Walsh, I thought they were better.
7.06 - Bad Company - Bad Company (1974 album)
Someone spotlighted earlier that this was a bad year for albums, so I think it's time this one goes off the board.
Great show BTW, Paul Rodgers still has "it" - too bad they went on before Joe Walsh, I thought they were better.
timschochet
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timschochet
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Jim Croce- You Don't Mess Around With Jim- 1972 album
This would also work well as my singer/songwriter album, and I may put it there and put Jackson Browne in 1972- not sure yet.
But Croce's breakthrough album is an unforgettable collection, which includes the title song, "Operator", and "Time In a Bottle"- all early 70s classics, but also some lesser known gems like "Box #10", "Hey Tomorrow", "Walking Back to Georgia", and "New York's Not My Home". Jim Croce WAS the early 70s.
This would also work well as my singer/songwriter album, and I may put it there and put Jackson Browne in 1972- not sure yet.
But Croce's breakthrough album is an unforgettable collection, which includes the title song, "Operator", and "Time In a Bottle"- all early 70s classics, but also some lesser known gems like "Box #10", "Hey Tomorrow", "Walking Back to Georgia", and "New York's Not My Home". Jim Croce WAS the early 70s.
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Buzzbait
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Two quick comments on the bold:
1) Rodgers nickname is "The Voice" with good reason. He is phenomenal live. I've seen him three times (twice with BC and once with Queen).
2) That's a nice double bill playing with Joe Walsh. Don't know which I think should headline but it is kind of annoying when the one you like better is the opener. I saw SRV play in 1990 just two months before his helicopter crash. It was a split bill with Joe Cocker and SRV went on first the night I went. Of course I'm biased being a bigger SRV fan than JC but I thought it was obvious who should have been closing.
rockaction
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Thanks to whoever is updating the spreadsheet, but I've got another album/song problem.
They Harder They Come is an Original Soundtrack. It's the full album. Soul album or 1972.
Also, lot of stuff in here I've never heard before because of my tastes. This should be a great discovery draft for me. I've already had good luck with The Kinks, I suppose I'll move on with The Knack, who I never really got into before for no good reason at all.
They Harder They Come is an Original Soundtrack. It's the full album. Soul album or 1972.
Also, lot of stuff in here I've never heard before because of my tastes. This should be a great discovery draft for me. I've already had good luck with The Kinks, I suppose I'll move on with The Knack, who I never really got into before for no good reason at all.
The Dreaded Marco
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Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman (1970) Singer/Songwriter album
Like the Croce album, this one is chock-full of great tunes, both radio hits and deeper cuts. I still own this on vinyl, taken from my parent's record collection when they decided they didn't want a turntable anymore and listen to it fairly often---still sounds fantastic. This epitomizes the early 70's s/sw music to me.
Like the Croce album, this one is chock-full of great tunes, both radio hits and deeper cuts. I still own this on vinyl, taken from my parent's record collection when they decided they didn't want a turntable anymore and listen to it fairly often---still sounds fantastic. This epitomizes the early 70's s/sw music to me.
HellToupee
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Such a dirty little album
. Loved it at 1st then hated it in High School , kids who didn't listen to my music suddenly loved this album causing me to abandon it . Loved when all the negative stuff hitThe Knack had too much success way too soon and after radio overkill they received a huge backlash
Knuke the Knack
The History of ‘My Sharona’ – How One Song Doomed the Knack
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Loathed by critics and written off as a novelty act, the Knack were a genuine rock ‘n’ roll band. As the ’70s drew to a close, the Knack were also simply unavoidable. Eventually that over-saturation would drown them, but for a brief shining moment, they were on top. Contrary to legend, however, they were no overnight-success story.
The Los Angeles music scene of the late ’70s was overflowing with energy, attitude and great bands. Things were moving fast, and by 1978, the landscape of punk outfits like the Germs, the Bags and the Weirdos was starting to give way to the likes of the Plimsouls, the Beat and the Knack.
In the early part of the decade, guitarist and singer Doug Fieger fronted a band called Sky that recorded two albums for RCA. Those albums went nowhere, and by 1974, the group had fallen apart. While his former bandmates moved back home to Detroit, Fieger decided to stay in Los Angeles. Over the next few years, he would meet like minded, seasoned musicians who would become the Knack — including drummer Bruce Gary, bassist Prescott Niles and guitarist Berton Averre. In 1977, Fieger decided to record some new music and called them in to lend a hand. Those demos failed to gain ground, but with the players in place, the Knack were born.
Throughout 1978, the Knack endlessly played the L.A. club scene, with triumphant residences at the Whisky and the Troubadour. Eventually, record companies came calling. “I was aware of them, as everybody else in L.A. was,” said producer Mike Chapman in the documentary Getting the Knack, “because there was lines of kids around the block to go see them at their shows.” The large fan base they had built up happened to include people like Tom Petty, Stephen Stills and Bruce Springsteen, all of whom would jam with the Knack at the Troubadour. “Bruce Springsteen gets up onstage with us on a Friday night, and on Monday, we have 14 record offers,” Fieger memorably quipped.
With the offers rolling in, the band chose Capitol Records. “I was sold the first time I saw them,” said Bruce Ravid, the man who signed them. Capitol was the home of the Beatles, and comparisons would dog the Knack from there forward. (Coincidentally, Capitol had previously signed another band called the Knack in 1967; this group released a couple of singles, but they had nothing to do with Fieger and company.)
Listen to the Knack’s ‘Maybe Tonight’
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In early 1979, the band entered the studio with producer Mike Chapman to begin work on their debut. Get the Knack was wrapped up in less than two weeks. “I don’t think we did two takes on any song, except for ‘Maybe Tonight,'” Fieger once said. “What we had to do was make the record quickly,” added Chapman, “because to labor over it would have taken that spontaneity out of it.” Chapman’s production here is, as always, first class.
Once released, it didn’t take long for radio stations to zero in on “My Sharona.” The insistent drum beat alone was one big hook, but once the guitar riff moves in, the track evolves into a massive ear worm. Soon, “My Sharona” was emanating from nearly every radio across America. It hit the top of the Billboard chart in the summer of 1979 and stayed there six straight weeks, going gold in just thirteen days. The album followed suit, holding Billboard’s top spot for five weeks until Led Zeppelin’s In Through the Out Door finally knocked it off.
Familiarity, as it will, bred contempt. “My Sharona” came to be seen as a novelty tune of sorts. Given another listen, however, it emerges as one of the sharpest rock ‘n’ roll records ever — from the riff to the lyric to the production. Averre is certainly one of the most underrated lead guitarists of the era, and his solo is nothing short of stunning. (Sharona, by the way, was indeed an actual person, and the object of Fieger’s very real desires.)
Elsewhere, Get the Knack is full of top shelf, hook-laden rockers. “Let Me Out” remains one of the most powerful album openers ever, while “Your Number or Your Name” and “Oh Tara” are pure pop gold, recalling mid-’60s Hollies and Kinks. “She’s So Selfish” and “Good Girls Don’t,” the album’s second single, were both full of words that wouldn’t fly past radio censors. After reworking a line, the Knack saw “Good Girls Don’t” land just shy of the Top 10.
“Maybe Tonight” steps away from the hard-edged template, arriving as a beautiful ballad with slightly psychedelic ornamentation. A revved-up take on the Buddy Holly classic “Heartbeat” was a perfect fit here, alongside their own “That’s What the Little Girls Do.” “Frustrated” ends the album on another lusty note, powered by a final massive guitar riff and the fantastic Bruce Gary’s powerhouse drums.
Still, the Knack’s seemingly instant rise to the top led some critics to question their authenticity, sincerity, and motives. The assumption was that they were some sort of manufactured group, something meant to echo the Beatles and nothing more. Fieger later admitted to the Fab Four’s influence on the Knack, but said the overt musical references were “tongue in cheek. It wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.” Few knew how long the Knack had paid its dues, or just how little promotion was behind their huge debut. “It’s funny, people have accused the Knack of being this big hype and that the record company hyped the band,” Fieger once said. “I was told at the time by Capitol Records that they spent $50,000 promoting Get the Knack — total.”
Watch the Knack Perform ‘Good Girls Don’t’
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Meanwhile, even as radio overkill led to general listener fatigue with the Knack, other labels were hoping to leverage their success. “The Knack didn’t capitalize on a movement, they created a movement,” rock critic Ethan Barborka said. “The whole record industry descended on L.A. after they released Get the Knack to find other bands that would be ‘the next Knack.'”
Hoping to take back a lost sense of mystique, management decided not have the Knack give interviews — a move that backfired horribly. “The manager at the time, I’ll excuse him for his innocence, his non-expertise, and his being in way over his head,” Niles said. “However, his decisions killed us, and as a result, it pissed a lot of people off.” A ‘Knuke the Knack’ campaign was started by San Francisco artist Hugh Brown. “They were so over-hyped, I thought I’ll do something that’s kind of obnoxious and kind of funny,” Brown said in the Getting the Knack‘ documentary. “Then it just snowballed.”
There grew a sense that the Knack was arrogant, while some criticized the group as misogynistic because of an abundance of lust-filled lyrics. For others, Get the Knack was seen as the watered-down conclusion of the fading punk movement from a few years earlier, a safe and sanitized version of something that had recently revitalized rock. But there was more to the Knack than that, and even Sex Pistols guitarist Steve Jones was a genuine fan. “I’ve literally played that album a million times, but I couldn’t really tell people — ’cause it was kind of uncool, being from the Sex Pistols, and that whole era,” Jones said in Getting the Knack. “I loved that album. I still have a copy of it!”
Even today, “My Sharona” — despite becoming 1979’s biggest single — inspires an impressive range of emotions, from love and lust to hatred and parody. “Weird Al” Yankovic’s novelty debut “My Bologna” put him on the map, while Cheech and Chong’s send-up appeared in Next Movie as “My Scrotum.”
The Knack never recovered from the backlash. “How could it have changed so much that we were ‘the glorious, the wonderful Knack’ one minute, and we were this horrible, sell-out, commercial bulls— hype the next minute?” Fieger later mused. “It made me angry.”
… But the Little Girls Understand, released in 1980, struggled to No. 15, and the Knack never had another album go higher than No. 53. Fieger died in 2010, after a battle with brain and lung cancer.
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Buzzbait
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I put it in the song category since the post mentioned Jimmy Cliff. So if I understand you want this listed in Soul/Funk/Disco album category. Correct?
Tau837
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I saw SRV open for Aerosmith in 1986. I had no idea who he was, but IMO he stole the show. One of the best performances I've ever seen.
rockaction
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Yes, that is my preference. Thanks for doing this again. Labors of love and all that jazz...
Doug B
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Just got an OTC PM. I have to stay on autoskip for the rest of today. Looks like I'll have two to make up tonight or tomorrow morning.
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