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1970s music draft- Link to google spreadsheet in first post (2 Viewers)
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The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
You just made my next selection much easier. Great pick.Tom Skerritt said:
Rove!
Footballguy
Eruption - this little pice of guitar work inspired a new generation of shredders. Perhaps, Asinfluential as Link Wray's Rumble was to a previous generation.
The album, as a whole is bridge to the future, a sea change in rock and roll. Gritty crunchy, eltectrifying guitar work, powerful vocals from the legendary David Lee Roth, amazing beautiful harmonies giving a nice contrast to the hard edged sound capped with strong rythym section,.
You our really got me, Jamie's cryin, ain't talkin about love, ice cream man, I'm the one, atomic punk, runnin with the devil.....just classic song after classic song
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worrierking
Footballguy
5.05 I will select Cosmo's Factory --CCR 1970 Album.
dal_boys_phan
Footballguy
With selection 5.06 - The Eagles – Hotel California (1976 album, for now)
You can check-out any time you like,But you can never leave!
You can check-out any time you like,But you can never leave!
timschochet
Footballguy
Well, since nobody's taken it, I will select
Boston (hard rock/classic rock album)
I'm guessing there aren't very many white male rock fans from the 1970s who don't know this album by heart. In particular, side one, featuring "More Than A Feeling", "Peace of Mind", and "Foreplay/Long Time" is as good as classic rock gets period. And side two isn't much weaker ("Hitch A Ride" might be my favorite song on the whole album.) So even though it's been played to death on AOR radio, let's pay tribute one more time to the amazing guitar work and compositions of Tom Scholz, and the soaring vocals of Brad Delp, as they conquer 1970s radios everywhere with this masterful rock epic.
Boston (hard rock/classic rock album)
I'm guessing there aren't very many white male rock fans from the 1970s who don't know this album by heart. In particular, side one, featuring "More Than A Feeling", "Peace of Mind", and "Foreplay/Long Time" is as good as classic rock gets period. And side two isn't much weaker ("Hitch A Ride" might be my favorite song on the whole album.) So even though it's been played to death on AOR radio, let's pay tribute one more time to the amazing guitar work and compositions of Tom Scholz, and the soaring vocals of Brad Delp, as they conquer 1970s radios everywhere with this masterful rock epic.
Rove!
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
My dad lived in Leeds. I used to visit him in the summer. Good times. Every Saturday we'd grab some fish and chips and go down to the park and watch The Who.Eephus said:4.xx The Who - Live At Leeds (1970 album)
Maximum R&B.
There have been more versions of this album over the years than Star Wars but the original six song 1970 track listing is
...and
Buzzbait
Footballguy
What's really amazing is that for as much as it was a bridge to the future it would not be out of place if it came out today. Most older albums, while still excellent music, sound dated. A lot of the older Halen is timeless.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Buzzbait
Footballguy
Was between this for 76 album or the Wall for 79. I went Wall because it looked like a steeper drop off while 76 had a few options (of course Hotel California was also just picked).
This album plays like a freaking greatest hits. The guitar tone/sound is just so unique. Scholz & Brian May's red special are two guitars you recognize instantly.
jwb
Footballguy
For some reason, I just never really liked Boston. Maybe it's because, to my ears, every song sounds the same, and not in a good way. Whatever it is, it never worked for me. Foreplay/Long Time is about all I like from them.
Mister CIA
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simsarge
Footballguy
Love , Love Love Boston's 1st. Second was great, but fell sort of their 1st. Third Stage and Walk On were pretty blea,
My Make up pick for 4.01 is the Queen of Disco Donna Summer and Bad Girls in the Soul/Funk/Disco album
no idea how i missed the 2nd pick on the turn. Brain fart.
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simey
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I love that album, and she wrote or co-wrote over half of the songs on the 15 track album.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
5.09 T. Rex - Electric Warrior (1971) 1971 album
Still so great, from start to finish.
Still so great, from start to finish.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Honestly, I think I know only two T Rex songs (Jeepster, and the other one) . Gonna go check this out --- as soon as I finish sampling a prodigious body of work that remains undrafted.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
timschochet
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Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Oh ####. I never thought this would get taken, was saving it for late if a couple other ones were taken.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Jfc.
training camp will start before you guys finish this, oh and thanks for the invite
training camp will start before you guys finish this, oh and thanks for the invite
timschochet
Footballguy
You weren't around. I should have sent Pms but I didn't think of it. I'd love it if you judge some categories though.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Judging movies is a nightmare, music
I am interested in the punk/post punk album and single categories, but have some questions. This may have been discussed, but it's difficult to wade through 19 pages of ELO worship.
Question 1. Where tf does electronic music fit into the topics? Hard rock and soft rock is out. Funk and soul are too. Disco would be a terrible fit. Punk/ post punk would apply, but that depends on the answer to question 2
Question 2. When does punk start? If you say 1977 then you would be wrong. Do you go back to iggy and the Stooges? MC5, New York Dolls, Neu! Etc
If it is 1969, 1970 or 71 then almost everyone is post punk or do you mean post punk as in New Wave etc ie post 77?
If i am judging i have to set criteria or
Uruk-Hai
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What do you mean by "electronic music"? In the 1970s - in America, at least - it didn't have its own aisle in a record store.
As for when punk started, I don't think that's really important (other than the fact that genre labels suck) - we're bound in this draft by a timeframe and, in theory anyway, have the ability to make our cases for our selections to fit into a category.
As for when punk started, I don't think that's really important (other than the fact that genre labels suck) - we're bound in this draft by a timeframe and, in theory anyway, have the ability to make our cases for our selections to fit into a category.
rockaction
Footballguy
I respect JML, but I don't think he read the thread. Anybody categorizing this as an ELO lovefest is seriously mistaking at least three-six of the drafters, myself included.
The bolded is true. We all have the ability to make the case for each record fitting into a category. I almost picked the Dolls as hard rock, and I'd give very eloquent reasons why and I'm pretty sure I'd win the debate. Instead, I shot for the much more limited claim of 1973, which actually benefits me. Lot of great hard rock in the seventies. If you can knock out a year, why not? In a tangential point, I'm about to possibly pick an album I consider soul that most won't, simply because the stratification of music must commence, must be paid heed to as if a canon. But I digress. I'm a bit relativistic about the absolute beauty of music.
I'm sure Eephus could talk all day about proto-punk and punk and post-punk, etc. I could offer some suggestions, too. It's not like I haven't listened to "proto-punk" for over a quarter of a century, back when JML's lovers were all listening to Depeche Mode's Live at the Hollywood Bowl and considering us all dinosaurs before we'd ever even heard the term, even in nascent form.
Lanny Kaye coined the absolute, non-adjectival term "punk" for the garage punks of the sixties. It goes back to at least the Nuggets compilation, which might be early seventies, iirc (I had the later box set, garage grease from Crypt!, etc.) But what it is can be debated here, and I'm sure we will get it done before any "judging," whatever "judging" might entail. (I shudder to think.)
This becomes the problem. I'd go with less judging, more rocking, more dancing, more funking, more soul, more disco.
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Uruk-Hai
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Then pick it. It's much more interesting to me to hear a "square peg in a round hole" justification coherently made than a ranking anyway. I slotted a Funkadelic record in the hard rock category knowing it'll probably get a low ranking (like I give a flying ####) even though - purely as music - it will fit better than many of the more conventional choices. I don't say that because I think I'm Enlightened Man and everyone else is a Luddite. But I do like challenging convention if the challenge makes sense.
Upon seeing Tim's categories, my first thought for singer-songwriter song was probably as off-kilter as your soul song choice.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, it's kind of cool to be able to make your case within the categories. I might get sniped -- no doubt -- but I think I have a pick coming and then a pick around the turn that should be fun.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
This record kicks ###, but the bolded has not always been a good thing. EVH started (or, at least. made mainstream) the - to me - maddening trend of guitar solos having nothing to do melodically with the rest of the song. A lot of guitar solos the last 35 or so years feel like cut-and-paste jobs to me. I mean, listen to Blackmore's on "Smoke On The Water" or Hendrix on "Watchtower" - those flow, man. A hurricane of picking that doesn't follow the main theme just take me right out of the song.
That said, EVH could - and did - play beautifully. His solo in "Beat It" is one of my favorites of all time.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
One of the indelible memories of my teen years is watching her sing a song on American Bandstand in a teddy.
That said, she was a formidable talent and not some producer's puppet. As simey said, she had a big hand in the creation of most of the songs on this album - and (surprise!) it's her best. She was doomed, though, in the general public's eye having already been labeled a disco singer. "Call Me' was a blatant Summer ripoff and Pat Benetar's entire career was basically rewriting "Hot Stuff". As much as I hate genre labels, Summer was much more a "rock" singer than she was disco or R&B.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Neither did soul, disco or lots of other categories. I can remember most music stores having all categories listed alphabetically, except maybe classical. But that is not the point, what was in record stores is irrelevant. What are people still listening to? What music was influential? What music from the period do you like?
As for when punk started. It is important for a judge. Not for punk itself, as someone arguing for MC5 or the Stooges is fine, but for the term post punk. Without being too pedantic.....well alright by being very pedantic, arguing that the Partridge Family is post punk because punk started in 1969 is an argument anyone can legitimately make.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I beg to differ on your first paragraph - records stores here absolutely had segregated aisles (& I can remember this well into the '90s). But my statement was meant more to call out how dumb trying to classify genres (there are always more exceptions than rules) is and also a little dig at Tim for falling into that trap in this draft.
I honestly don't care about what judges have to take into account. As I implied above to someone else above, I'd rather do away with the labels altogether but I'd love to hear someone make an intelligent argument that the Partridge Family is post-punk.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
You are right, i didnt read the thread. Ive been in almost every music draft on this board though and know that ELO is about as popular as a wet fart. Obviously the comment was in jest.
As for all my lovers listening to Depeche Mode live at Hollywood bowl, im not sure what to make of that. For the record i only seem to attract women who arent into music. Strange really. My wife likes music about as much i like right wing politicians.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
I also agree about the less judging and more music comment, but this is a tim draft.
Advantage: More discussion, long running and categories get deep.
Disadvantage: Too much discussion, nit picking, half asssssed judging and long running.
The half asssssed judging is why i judge. Im more a double assssed judge.
Advantage: More discussion, long running and categories get deep.
Disadvantage: Too much discussion, nit picking, half asssssed judging and long running.
The half asssssed judging is why i judge. Im more a double assssed judge.
simey
Footballguy
She was diverse. She won Grammys in rock, r&b, dance, and gospel. I know the RnR Hall of Fame is a joke, but it bugged me that Madonna got inducted 5 years prior to Donna Summer. Donna Summer trailblazed the path for Madonna.
One of the indelible memories of my teen years is watching her sing a song on American Bandstand in a teddy.
That said, she was a formidable talent and not some producer's puppet. As simey said, she had a big hand in the creation of most of the songs on this album - and (surprise!) it's her best. She was doomed, though, in the general public's eye having already been labeled a disco singer. "Call Me' was a blatant Summer ripoff and Pat Benetar's entire career was basically rewriting "Hot Stuff". As much as I hate genre labels, Summer was much more a "rock" singer than she was disco or R&B.
HellToupee
Footballguy
too!
otb_lifer
Footballguy
i couldn't get enough of this album
man, "Eton Rifles:, "Little Boy Soldiers", "Private Hell", "Saturday's Kids" ... such powerfully constructed, epic tunes.
was overshadowed in '79 by "London Calling", but i prefer this Jam classic over the more celebrated Clash offering
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I came to The Jam really, really late (like, 10 years ago). I like a lot of their stuff, though.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
She had to ####### DIE before they'd let her in. If she was still alive, I doubt she'd be in even now.
HellToupee
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