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2005 FBG/ NFL Mock Draft (1 Viewer)
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Evilgrin72
Footballguy
I can easily see this being the Bengals pick if they stay put. Well done.
bengals can't really go wrong here, hawthorne or shaun cody would greatly shore up their D, line, the only question is whether go more run-stuffing (hawthorne) or pass rushing (cody). bengals fans should be happy if they get hawthorne at 17 with the premium put on stalwart DT's in today's NFL.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Anyone know that Texasyankee guy? PM him!
UPDATE:1 San Francisco- Aaron Rodgers - QB from Cal 2 Miami - Derrick Johnson - LB from Texas3 Cleveland - Antrel Rolle - CB from Miami4 Chicago - Braylon Edwards - WR Michigan 5 Tampa Bay - Mike Williams - WR formerly USC6 Tennessee - Alex Barron - OT Florida St.7 Oakland - Cedric Benson - RB Texas8 Arizona - Ronnie Brown - RB Auburn9 Washington - Dan Cody - DE Okalahoma10 Detroit - Heath Miller - TE Virginia11 Dallas - Shawn Merriman - DE/OLB Maryland12 San Diego - Erasmus James - DE Wisconsin13 Houston - Adam "Pac-Man" Jones - CB West Virginia14 Carolina - Thomas Davis - FS Georgia 15 Kansas City - Travis Johnson - DT Florida State 16 New Orleans - Alex Smith - QB Utah17 Cincinnati Bengals - Anttaj Hawthorne - DT Wisconsin TEXAS YANKEE- VIKINGS IS UPBRAVE SIR ROBIN- RAMS are on deck.CULDEUS- Cowboys- IN the Hole
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JAA
Footballguy
Im just about done for the day. I have a funeral all day tomorrow. If you cant wait until I show up Thursday evening or Fri Morn, please PM Jason Wood to make my pick. If you can, I would appreciate it if you can wait until Thursday Evening/Friday morning.Also, please post draft order ten spots in advance once we get closer to the end of the 1st round. Reason being I (Phi) has 2 picks real close and I plan on having my VBD hat on 
.Thanks,JAA
.Thanks,JAA
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
It's cyclical.Seeing as so many DTs have been drafted early in recent years, it would leave one to believe that most teams have at least one young stud DT on their roster now.New England has drafted a DT/DE in the first round in 3 of the last 4 drafts: Richard Seymour, Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork2004 First Round1 1 14 14 Tommie Harris Bears Oklahoma2 1 21 21 Vince Wilfork Patriots Miami (FL) 3 1 23 23 Marcus Tubbs Seahawks Texas2003 First Round1 1 4 4 Dewayne Robertson Jets Kentucky2 1 6 6 Johnathan Sullivan Saints Georgia3 1 12 12 Jimmy Kennedy Rams Penn State4 1 13 13 Ty Warren Patriots Texas A&M5 1 25 25 William Joseph Giants Miami (FL)2002 First Round1 1 6 6 Ryan Sims Chiefs North Carolina2 1 9 9 John Henderson Jaguars Tennessee3 1 12 12 Wendell Bryant Cardinals Wisconsin4 1 15 15 Albert Haynesworth Titans Tennessee2001 First Round1 1 3 3 Gerard Warren Browns Florida2 1 6 6 Richard Seymour Patriots Georgia3 1 12 12 Damione Lewis Rams Miami (FL)4 1 13 13 Marcus Stroud Jaguars Georgia5 1 19 19 Casey Hampton Steelers TexasLeave it to the Browns to draft a DT the earliest and get perhaps the biggest bust of them all...
beto
Footballguy
Let's open up suggestions for the Viking pick. GBN Report just released a mock with them taking Channing Crowder LB Florida. I think this is a solid pick as they obvouisly need D. Marlin Jackson, Shaun Cody and Marcus Spears would also fit here as well.Votes? Commentary?
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I say cody, but maybe we ask a Viking homer out there to just take over for the rest of the draft and make all the vikes picks rest of the way
DT makes sense because of Hovan's collapse - Cody is the best available, but maybe not the best fit because of his tweener status.LB makes sense because they have such poor LB play - Channing Crowder is clearly the best left on the board. NFL draft countdown likes kevin burnett because he's a good coverage LBS makes sense because they also have very poor play there, but i am not sold on brodney pool or ernest shazor as being a mid first.CB makes sense because the guy winfield wasnt covering was getting wide open...lots of good picks there jackson, miller, webster, rogers.despite all this, i would not pick any of them if i were the vikes. you can hide all kinds of weaknesses on your defense if you can rush the passer. while a straight pass rusher like justin tuck or matt roth is tempting, i would go with DAVID POLLACK, Georgia.this defense needs fire, it needs a leader, a guy who never lets up, and that is pollack. if you watched any georgia game for the last 3 years, you saw him making plays all over the place. he would be an incredible example setter for the minnesota D. hovan was the fire, the engine of the defense before he fell apart, i think pollack will immediately take over that role...my .02
if the vikes are going to 3-4, shaun cody or mike patterson would be the slam dunk picks. patterson would be a warren sapp like obstruction in the middle, cody is the perfect tweener for the 3-4 DE position. i would think that they would give kevin williams a chance to be the nose tackle, and go with cody.
williams is 6'5" 310, warren sapp is 6'2" 300...regardless, i cant find anything that confirms that the vikes are doing this, so it doesnt make sense to make a pick based on it.Shaun Cody is a fine pick, and i would imagine that a lot of people would have him as the highest rated defensive player left on the board. I think we should just pick Cody for the vikes and move on, but i reserve the right to second guess us for not taking pollack
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Agreed Dolfan, they get cody and the rams are on the clock.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
So is it safe to assume...
1 San Francisco- Aaron Rodgers - QB from Cal
2 Miami - Derrick Johnson - LB from Texas
3 Cleveland - Antrel Rolle - CB from Miami
4 Chicago - Braylon Edwards - WR Michigan
5 Tampa Bay - Mike Williams - WR formerly USC
6 Tennessee - Alex Barron - OT Florida St.
7 Oakland - Cedric Benson - RB Texas
8 Arizona - Ronnie Brown - RB Auburn
9 Washington - Dan Cody - DE Okalahoma
10 Detroit - Heath Miller - TE Virginia
11 Dallas - Shawn Merriman - DE/OLB Maryland
12 San Diego - Erasmus James - DE Wisconsin
13 Houston - Adam "Pac-Man" Jones - CB West Virginia
14 Carolina - Thomas Davis - FS Georgia
15 Kansas City - Travis Johnson - DT Florida State
16 New Orleans - Alex Smith - QB Utah
17 Cincinnati Bengals - Anttaj Hawthorne - DT Wisconsin
18 Minnesota Vikings - Shaun Cody - DE/DT - USC
Minnesota pick (based on above postings) due to possible move to 3-4 defense. This would make Cody a great pick here. Plus, with the loss of Hovan on the DLine, the DLine has some holes and this pick seems like a no brainer. Pollack was considered as the other option here.
The Rams are up at #19.
1 San Francisco- Aaron Rodgers - QB from Cal
2 Miami - Derrick Johnson - LB from Texas
3 Cleveland - Antrel Rolle - CB from Miami
4 Chicago - Braylon Edwards - WR Michigan
5 Tampa Bay - Mike Williams - WR formerly USC
6 Tennessee - Alex Barron - OT Florida St.
7 Oakland - Cedric Benson - RB Texas
8 Arizona - Ronnie Brown - RB Auburn
9 Washington - Dan Cody - DE Okalahoma
10 Detroit - Heath Miller - TE Virginia
11 Dallas - Shawn Merriman - DE/OLB Maryland
12 San Diego - Erasmus James - DE Wisconsin
13 Houston - Adam "Pac-Man" Jones - CB West Virginia
14 Carolina - Thomas Davis - FS Georgia
15 Kansas City - Travis Johnson - DT Florida State
16 New Orleans - Alex Smith - QB Utah
17 Cincinnati Bengals - Anttaj Hawthorne - DT Wisconsin
18 Minnesota Vikings - Shaun Cody - DE/DT - USC
Minnesota pick (based on above postings) due to possible move to 3-4 defense. This would make Cody a great pick here. Plus, with the loss of Hovan on the DLine, the DLine has some holes and this pick seems like a no brainer. Pollack was considered as the other option here.
The Rams are up at #19.
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texasyankee
Footballguy
Sorry for the delayI want Shaun Cody, DT USCMove Kevin Williams back to DEHe and Udeze will wreck havoc in the pass D next year.Cody and Johnson will clog the middle to stuff the run.
a little more on why i think pollack will be a steal - he has the classic "player with less than ideal measureables, but INCREDIBLE game play" profile. why the league is still so in love with measureables is beyond me. if there was something about pollack that showed that he was successful with moves/techniques that would not work on bigger/stronger guys, then i would buy him dropping this far as being merited, but from what i saw of the guy, he's successful because of unstoppable desire and tenacity - getting far more out of his inferior size/strength/speed than DEs with better mesaureables will ever get out of their superior size/strength/speed...
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I agree bloom, where I live i get Big Ten and SEC football on saturdays, I almost took pollack for the chargers at 12, but James' talent and workout will be better, Pollack may very well be the better FOOTBALL player.
Bob Henry
Footballguy
I really hope the Lions can somehow get Pollack, but especially if Millen pulls something off like last year.. trade down, obtain an extra 2nd or 3rd or even simply move up higher in each round, and get Pollack. Get Carlos Rogers and try to snag a TE and OG/C/T on the first day. I'd consider that a heckuva first day, but won't hold my breath hoping for it to happen. Pollack is a darn good football player.
Nucular George
Footballguy
This thread is spending far too much time on page 2 and beyond. Something has to happen. Either Taylor needs to keep tighter control of this (though I am not blaming him for the lack of participation). Or someone needs to establish better and more firm rules for picks. I like Drugrunner's idea of having firm time blocks and a schedule for making picks. You know when you are up to pick. If someone misses their pick, then we should have a short list of people to make a comittiee type pick. However many are there at expiration gets the decision. Something has to happen though.The way I see it is we have four options: (1) Do nothing and stick with this, (2) Scrap the idea, (3) Change the time rules, or (4) Put this off until after the combine. I hate the thought of #1. #2 would kinda suck too. I think #3 is probably the best idea. We have someone with experience in managing these things. We should use that. End of speech...
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I understand you want to pick, but you just gotta hang on. If some of the main players here agree to a pick timer, then thats fine. But we're not gonna scrap it. I've never seen this go to page 2 by the way. There is a last post of 9:15am on my first page...and there has been action in here all day.
Nucular George
Footballguy
First, I clearly noted that I don't want to scrap this. I think this is useful and I like it. After all, I did join this because of my interest in the project. As for my pick, I have no problem with waiting as reasonable amount of time. But anyone who is up within a couple picks should know whether they might get stuck. All we are asking for is consideration with that. Doesn't make someone a bad person, but would be nice.Second, my post bumped this from the middle of page 2. I have also seen this as deep as page 3 a couple times. Normally, it is at the bottom of page 1 though. I was simply making a note of the fact that this should not get that far down without some sort of input from people, picking or not. On that note, I will do my part with that by discussing prior picks.
judging by what we projected, arizona and oakland are in plum spots to trade down to a team that has their eye on a specific DT/DE since most of the teams that follow have D-line as a need. a team picking in the 20s could be looking at the 7th or 8th Dlineman on the board, while the 7 or 8 slot would allow you have your pick of the bunch.anyone care to throw some "Player X wont get past team X" analysis?ill start with some easy ones:One of the two marquee WRs wont get past SD.Thomas Davis wont get past KC.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I know you don't wanna scrap it, but it was one of the options, so thats why I mentioned it. And I might have more threads on my page 1 than you, I think you can mess with those settings somewhere on here. There's no way it was off my page 1 today.I thought Lt would be on here more facilitating things...so maybe there should be a few daytime people that can watch it over and make decisions. Obviously, StL should have known they were going to be up soon, even if he just visited last night. He could have PMed a few picks and explanations. So if StL does not show up soon, we should get another StL homer that will be around everyday to take over or we can just make the pick as we did with Minnesota. Although it was weird that Minn showed up just after we made the pick, and then he wanted the same guy.
guderian
Footballguy
I'm not involved, but I've watched the thread. The draft is just for fun and no money is involved. I'd suggest that if someone doesn't make a pick in 6 hours or so (with some leeway overnight) that some third party makes a pick for them and you move on. It took Minn 24 hours to make a pick, at that pace people lose interest and check in less and then more people fall behind. If someone is dying to make their pick and they have to go to work or whatnot, then email some pre-selections to someone else. If someone can't do that they shouldn't cry when their pick gets skipped.
