Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I'm not sure he's physical enough to play SS. But the Dolphins safeties aren't necessarily counted on in run support. Some say Saban likes his safeties to be "interchangeable".
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
2006 NFL Draft IDP Thread (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Jene Bramel
- Start date
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Agree.Added my thoughts on page one.
Better defensive line in front of him than Sims. Likely to be more durable. Better coverage skills. Not as explosive, but just as rangy.
And you'll almost certainly be able to get him later than Sims. Great IDP value.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
1.18 BOBBY CARPENTER - Ohio State
Or none of the above. Guess Parcells didn't think Lawson was the right fit.
And he's probably right. Questions about Lawson's hesitancy to work out as a stand up LB may have played a role.
Carpenter is another talented backer who didn't get much chatter with Hawk and Sims dominating conversation. Complete player - great size for the 3-4 OLB gig, sure tackler, good cover guy, more than capable edge rusher.
Should provide immediate impact on the strong side. Has the skill set to be one of the few strong side 3-4 OLB to have some fantasy value. He's a three down player. He'll rush the passer and cover. Could be a guy who gets 5-7 sacks with a couple of picks and good tackle numbers with Chad Brown being a reasonable comp.
Or none of the above. Guess Parcells didn't think Lawson was the right fit.
And he's probably right. Questions about Lawson's hesitancy to work out as a stand up LB may have played a role.
Carpenter is another talented backer who didn't get much chatter with Hawk and Sims dominating conversation. Complete player - great size for the 3-4 OLB gig, sure tackler, good cover guy, more than capable edge rusher.
Should provide immediate impact on the strong side. Has the skill set to be one of the few strong side 3-4 OLB to have some fantasy value. He's a three down player. He'll rush the passer and cover. Could be a guy who gets 5-7 sacks with a couple of picks and good tackle numbers with Chad Brown being a reasonable comp.
Last edited by a moderator:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
You think? Singleton is headed for the bench for sure. And Ayodele certainly seems to think he'll start inside next to James. I think Carpenter's cover and pass rush skills make him an ideal strong side completment to DeMarcus Ware.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
1.19 ANTONIO CROMARTIE - San Diego Chargers.
This has to be a corner.
And it is. The Chargers have bubkis behind Jammer. Florence is shady. Raymond Walls is their nickle back.
:X
Same thoughts as Tye Hill. Rookie corner rule may apply, but Cromartie isn't nearly as willing in run support, though much bigger. His exceptional ball skills and ability to break on a pass route give him big play potential though.
This has to be a corner.
And it is. The Chargers have bubkis behind Jammer. Florence is shady. Raymond Walls is their nickle back.
:X
Same thoughts as Tye Hill. Rookie corner rule may apply, but Cromartie isn't nearly as willing in run support, though much bigger. His exceptional ball skills and ability to break on a pass route give him big play potential though.
Last edited by a moderator:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
From a Dallas Morning News chat transcript this AM. A few other nuggets as well, but most specifically...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...t.16354f15.html
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...t.16354f15.html
We'll see.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
1.20 TAMBA HALI - Kansas City Chiefs
Man, the first round is all about defense this year...
I like Tamba Hali.
He has the skill set to be a two way performer at end. Relentless. Has an explosive first step but limited in overall array of pass rush moves. Knocked as having marginal size, but plays stronger than he looks with good leverage and strong hands. Was already putting on weight at the combine according to Frank Coyle.
Should challenge Eric Hicks at strong side end. Good upside.
Man, the first round is all about defense this year...
I like Tamba Hali.
He has the skill set to be a two way performer at end. Relentless. Has an explosive first step but limited in overall array of pass rush moves. Knocked as having marginal size, but plays stronger than he looks with good leverage and strong hands. Was already putting on weight at the combine according to Frank Coyle.
Should challenge Eric Hicks at strong side end. Good upside.
Last edited by a moderator:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
BTW, as a Bengal fan, Winston Justice and Manny Lawson are slip sliding their way.
:X on Lawson. Confirms plans to move to a 3-4 defense. Evokes memories of the failed conversion of Reinard Wilson.
[is that Michael Irvin laughing while the Jets fans boo Herman Edwards? All class, that guy.]
:X on Lawson. Confirms plans to move to a 3-4 defense. Evokes memories of the failed conversion of Reinard Wilson.
[is that Michael Irvin laughing while the Jets fans boo Herman Edwards? All class, that guy.]
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Meh.Their corners aren't special and there are a couple of nice corners on the board. They could surprise and go WR. DeAngelo Williams would look nice too. I don't see an ILB that fits well here.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
1.22 MANNY LAWSON - San Francisco 49ers
Will be a 3-4 rush OLB here and the replacement for Julian Peterson. Ridiculous straight line speed with the athleticism and quickness to beat offensive linemen off the ball consistently. Lot of questions about his coverage skills and ability to play the run. Also questions about his attitude in transitioning to the 3-4. Otherwise, he has a tremendous work ethic and motor.
Fantasy value is similar to most 3-4 OLB - minimal - especially given the question marks in coverage and run support.
Will be a 3-4 rush OLB here and the replacement for Julian Peterson. Ridiculous straight line speed with the athleticism and quickness to beat offensive linemen off the ball consistently. Lot of questions about his coverage skills and ability to play the run. Also questions about his attitude in transitioning to the 3-4. Otherwise, he has a tremendous work ethic and motor.
Fantasy value is similar to most 3-4 OLB - minimal - especially given the question marks in coverage and run support.
Last edited by a moderator:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Justice is going now.I don't see the Bengals going TE here. Word is, they like some guys that can be had in the third. I wonder if they'll take yet another character risk in Jimmy Williams. Marvin suggests that he's more leery now of those flags. Could by Youboty or Joseph. Could surprise and take Kiwanuka or McNeill.
I think it's a corner.
ETA:
Love to see the Bengals trade down here if they can get a haul from somebody at the end of the round who needs an OT.
Last edited by a moderator:
Rozelle
Moderator
I thought like the whole BengalO-line will be FA's next year.Justice is going now.I don't see the Bengals going TE here. Word is, they like some guys that can be had in the third. I wonder if they'll take yet another character risk in Jimmy Williams. Marvin suggests that he's more leery now of those flags. Could by Youboty or Joseph. Could surprise and take Kiwanuka or McNeill.
I think it's a corner.
ETA:
Love to see the Bengals trade down here if they can get a haul from somebody at the end of the round who needs an OT.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Yep.No way Steinbach and Jones go though. Big Willie may or may not be tagged and they like how Stacy Andrews is progressing. I'm fine with Justice, but it's worth listening to offers if you can get an extra third or fourth here.I thought like the whole BengalO-line will be FA's next year.Justice is going now.I don't see the Bengals going TE here. Word is, they like some guys that can be had in the third. I wonder if they'll take yet another character risk in Jimmy Williams. Marvin suggests that he's more leery now of those flags. Could by Youboty or Joseph. Could surprise and take Kiwanuka or McNeill.
I think it's a corner.
ETA:
Love to see the Bengals trade down here if they can get a haul from somebody at the end of the round who needs an OT.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Another Chaun Thompson owner here... I agree.... Wimbley is a nice bookend for Clev, but who wins the ILB slot next to Andra Davis will jump in value. Not a fan of Sims going that high and 1.08 Donte' Whitner by Buffalo was a suprise to me... but I guess his skill set is a good fit for the Cover 2 Scheme they are installing!
with Levi Jones and Willie Anderson in place, why would the Bengals take Justice?
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Future.Big Willie may not be re-signed. Bobbie Williams got a big contract. Steinbach and Jones are going to cost big bucks.
Last edited by a moderator:
pretender
Footballguy
Who would man SAM then. Isn't it possible that Hawk would best work at the SAM or do you see Taylor there?I don't know about that, Keg.Hawk is the prototypical Will. Barnett does have some decent speed and range, but I think the better fit is Hawk at Will and Barnett at Mike.I would say there is a chance that Barnett could be moved to WLB with Hawk manning the middlesorry if anyone doesn't like my sig
Last edited by a moderator:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
1.24 JONATHAN JOSEPH - Cincinnati Bengals
That's about right.
Has a nice package of size, speed, instincts, and ball skills. Will hit. A little inexperienced, takes chances. Will fill the 3rd corner role this year then likely switch roles with Tory James in 07, although it's possible that could happen sooner.
Next to zero IDP value unless starting.
ETA: Probably confimation that Chris Henry has soured Marvin on taking chances on poor character guys with Jimmy Williams on the board here.
Yep, Marvin just said, "This guy checked out all the way character wise. He's a good person."
That's about right.
Has a nice package of size, speed, instincts, and ball skills. Will hit. A little inexperienced, takes chances. Will fill the 3rd corner role this year then likely switch roles with Tory James in 07, although it's possible that could happen sooner.
Next to zero IDP value unless starting.
ETA: Probably confimation that Chris Henry has soured Marvin on taking chances on poor character guys with Jimmy Williams on the board here.
Yep, Marvin just said, "This guy checked out all the way character wise. He's a good person."
Last edited by a moderator:
CB makes sense for the Bengals
Giants going to take a WR?
Giants going to take a WR?
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
See above for my thoughts.I like Hawk, but I'm real tempted to make Greenway 1a because of his situation and opportunity. All three should be valuable IDP players though.
ETA: Hmm. Maybe we should keep this Greenway love among ourselves for a couple of months.
If I don't slow down, I'll end up hyping him like Mr. Thurman and Mr. Davis.
Last edited by a moderator:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
What's a WR?
Hawk, Greenway, Sims, MarioHow do the impact IDPs rank out so far?
Hawk
Greenway
Super Mario
Simms
I'd rank Huff and Whitner behind the top 4What about Huff? A top safety especially a SS can be an asset to any roster.Hawk, Greenway, Sims, MarioHow do the impact IDPs rank out so far?
Hawk
Greenway
Super Mario
Simms
