I don't understand why anyone would want Vick or Heap. Those turds will spend the rest of their lives on the waiver wire in my league. However Smith and Moore present some upside....All TDs 6 dynasty pprGaveVick, Michael PHI QB;Heap, Todd BAL TEGotSmith, Alex SFO QB;Moore, Evan CLE TE
Wow, that's awfully cheap for Gore.16-team / PPR / Dynasty / IDPHenne, 2011 1st, McKelvinforGore, 3.12, DillardThe 1st in 2011 looks to be a mid to late round pick.
FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pick
I assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
Yeah I don't see anything wrong with that trade. Especially compared to some of the ones that get posted here (like the Gore deal a little further up the page where he basically went for a 2011 1st round pick).FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pickI assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
just so we're clear, the trade will process w/less than 5 vetos, so even had i not effed up the rosters, the trade would have processed (and should have processed by that point in the day anyway, since it had been 24 hours). i think it's interesting watching the reaction to this trade. some people think the Gore side clearly won, and others think the Rodgers' side came out ahead.FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pickI assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
I viewed it that Vick is worthless. The 3rd round pick is pretty worthless too and then it's Rodgers and Morgan vs Gore.There's more and more talk about SF getting someone in to work alongside Gore which I think hurts his value.just so we're clear, the trade will process w/less than 5 vetos, so even had i not effed up the rosters, the trade would have processed (and should have processed by that point in the day anyway, since it had been 24 hours). i think it's interesting watching the reaction to this trade. some people think the Gore side clearly won, and others think the Rodgers' side came out ahead.FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pickI assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
I don't see how anyone could view it as the Gore side winning. I think the Rodgers side won in a landslide. IMO Rodgers is the #1 dynasty QB.just so we're clear, the trade will process w/less than 5 vetos, so even had i not effed up the rosters, the trade would have processed (and should have processed by that point in the day anyway, since it had been 24 hours). i think it's interesting watching the reaction to this trade. some people think the Gore side clearly won, and others think the Rodgers' side came out ahead.FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pickI assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
this.I don't see how anyone could view it as the Gore side winning. I think the Rodgers side won in a landslide. IMO Rodgers is the #1 dynasty QB.just so we're clear, the trade will process w/less than 5 vetos, so even had i not effed up the rosters, the trade would have processed (and should have processed by that point in the day anyway, since it had been 24 hours). i think it's interesting watching the reaction to this trade. some people think the Gore side clearly won, and others think the Rodgers' side came out ahead.FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pickI assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
well, in that draft, Rodgers went at 1.10, and Gore at 2.6ish i think. imo, the value isn't even close, even at only 4pt pass TD.On Rodgers and Gore - where would both players go in an inaugural dynasty draft? Mid-late first round probably - which would suggest that in dynasty terms they have almost equal value.
It was actually a surprise to me, as even in 4 pt pass TD leagues, Itypically see Rodgers go at 1.05, and even ahead of Ray Rice once.well, in that draft, Rodgers went at 1.10, and Gore at 2.6ish i think. imo, the value isn't even close, even at only 4pt pass TD.On Rodgers and Gore - where would both players go in an inaugural dynasty draft? Mid-late first round probably - which would suggest that in dynasty terms they have almost equal value.
really? cause i've not seen one, before this one, where he went in the first round short of a league giving 6pts all TD. well that's simply amazing. i mean, i can understand the logic...but i figured it was a given that Rodgers would fall to me at the start of the 2nd round.It was actually a surprise to me, as even in 4 pt pass TD leagues, Itypically see Rodgers go at 1.05, and even ahead of Ray Rice once.well, in that draft, Rodgers went at 1.10, and Gore at 2.6ish i think. imo, the value isn't even close, even at only 4pt pass TD.On Rodgers and Gore - where would both players go in an inaugural dynasty draft? Mid-late first round probably - which would suggest that in dynasty terms they have almost equal value.
The way I see it, Rodgers at 26 is the #1 QB in FF, redraft or dynasty. Could argue Brees ahead of him but even though I have Brees in my main league, I won't argue that. At 26, he probably has 5-10 years left at a high level, you can't say that about most players producing in the top 5 let alone the #1 guy. I wouldn't and didn't take him over the Johnsons or any of the 4 RBs, but after they're gone he's right in the conversation. Granted, in a 12 team league with 4 pts per TD, QBs are worth less, but even in that league, Brees scored 350 points last year, Rodgers scored 398, a 3 pt difference per game from the next best thing. That's almost as big a difference as CJ had over the rest in his record breaking year.really? cause i've not seen one, before this one, where he went in the first round short of a league giving 6pts all TD. well that's simply amazing. i mean, i can understand the logic...but i figured it was a given that Rodgers would fall to me at the start of the 2nd round.It was actually a surprise to me, as even in 4 pt pass TD leagues, Itypically see Rodgers go at 1.05, and even ahead of Ray Rice once.well, in that draft, Rodgers went at 1.10, and Gore at 2.6ish i think. imo, the value isn't even close, even at only 4pt pass TD.On Rodgers and Gore - where would both players go in an inaugural dynasty draft? Mid-late first round probably - which would suggest that in dynasty terms they have almost equal value.
I agree. Rodgers is the #1 dynasty QB right now (according to most). With Crabtree in a full year now, and the emergence of Vernon Davis, plus talk of another back (CJ Spiller has been mentioned)....and with lots of young up and coming RB's in the league, I can see Gore dropping well out of top 5 range.I don't see how anyone could view it as the Gore side winning. I think the Rodgers side won in a landslide. IMO Rodgers is the #1 dynasty QB.just so we're clear, the trade will process w/less than 5 vetos, so even had i not effed up the rosters, the trade would have processed (and should have processed by that point in the day anyway, since it had been 24 hours). i think it's interesting watching the reaction to this trade. some people think the Gore side clearly won, and others think the Rodgers' side came out ahead.FUBAR said:non-IDP, PPRA gets Aaron Rodgers, QB (GB), Josh Morgan, WR (SF)B gets Michael Vick, QB (PHI), Frank Gore, RB (SF); 2010 3rd round pickI assume you're joking - this trade was "vetoed" by two people, commish put it through. One guy completely went off about how bad team A was raped. IMO it's a pretty even trade, only problem I have is I'm team A and also have Romo and Freeman. I may end up keeping all 3 until injuries come calling to those without QBs to backfill their "viable" starters. Dynasty league, so I don't mind keeping 2 stud QBs (plus Freeman) for now, I wanted Rodgers but he went in the end of the 1st, Gore was a 2nd round pick.Donsmith753 said:What does owner A have on owner B out of interest, he must be blackmailing him.
Interesting trade where I guess the two owners just have different evaluations of the players. It seems pretty fair and balanced.Stewart >>> MendenhallCrabtree>>>> BoweWinslow and Clark are a push. I would rather have Clark but he is getting old.* ####### and Beer gave up Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB;Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR;Clark, Dallas IND TE * Schmiden Theory gave up Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB;Crabtree, Michael SFO WR;Winslow, Kellen TBB TE
You gave up a lot? Welker could be done forver, Edelman will only be as good as the targets he gets...Brown i think is done as a top 15 option...and Rivers is #2. I would do that in a heartbeat. Nicely done.I love Rodgers and just paid a decent sum to get him and would have paid more... I got alot of WOW responses but I dont care Rodgers is young and puts up filthy #'s/My trade I gave upRiversRonnie BrownWelker/Edelfor RodgersOgletreeI would have paid more this was my 1st offer.
I actually like Mendy just a hair more than Stewart, but I know that's not standard value. I think Clark>Winslow but Crabtree>>>Bowe. I like it for the Crabtree side.Interesting trade where I guess the two owners just have different evaluations of the players. It seems pretty fair and balanced.Stewart >>> MendenhallCrabtree>>>> BoweWinslow and Clark are a push. I would rather have Clark but he is getting old.* ####### and Beer gave up Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB;Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR;Clark, Dallas IND TE * Schmiden Theory gave up Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB;Crabtree, Michael SFO WR;Winslow, Kellen TBB TE
I can't believe how low Bowe's value is these days. Good trade for you.I gave up Braylon Edwards and 3.11 rookie pickfor Bowe
Nice work.Jerricho Cotchery - WR - NYJ 2.02forRights to Julio Jones WR - ALA3.13(1 developmental player per team)
much prefer your side.booda said:In a 12-team, non-PPR Dynasty:I gave Knowshon Moreno and got Michael Crabtree. My other Rb's are Chris Johnson, Deangelo Williams, and Felix Jones. My other Wr's are Randy Moss and Desean Jackson.I figured that I have the depth to sacrifice Moreno, and I add depth behind Moss.
does Cotchery even have a job anymore?anyway, very nice work.Jerricho Cotchery - WR - NYJ 2.02forRights to Julio Jones WR - ALA3.13(1 developmental player per team)
I dealt: Gates/1.03/Wallace I got: Austin/ V DavisQB Donovan McNabb, WasQB Kevin Kolb, PhiQB Matt Moore, CarQB Nate Davis, SFQB Troy Smith, BalRB Ronnie Brown, MiaRB Michael Bush, OakRB Marshawn Lynch, BufRB Laurence Maroney, NERB Mike Bell, PhiRB Jason Snelling, AtlRB DJ Ware, NYGWR Steve Smith, CarWR Mike Wallace, PitWR Lee Evans, BufWR Julian Edelman, NEWR Chris Chambers, KCWR Brandon Tate, NEWR Steve Johnson, BufWR Reggie Brown, TBWR Jaquan Iglesias, ChiTE Antonio Gates, SDTE James Casey, HouTE Evan Moore, CleK Nick Folk, NYj
Ouch...team A got crushed!Team A gives:Sidney Rice2011 1st2011 1st2010 2.42012 3rdTeam B gives:2010 1.12012 1st
Disagree.Ouch...team A got crushed!Team A gives:Sidney Rice2011 1st2011 1st2010 2.42012 3rdTeam B gives:2010 1.12012 1st
yikes thats terrible value for rivers2 QB dynasty, PPRGave Palmer, B EdwardsGot Rivers
Ouch...team A got crushed!Team A gives:Sidney Rice2011 1st2011 1st2010 2.42012 3rdTeam B gives:2010 1.12012 1st
Disagree.Ouch...team A got crushed!Team A gives:Sidney Rice2011 1st2011 1st2010 2.42012 3rdTeam B gives:2010 1.12012 1st
Oops, I somehow did not see Sidney Rice, I thought it was just a draft pick trade. I now concur with the "Ouch" post.Explain why you two feel this way about the trade? For Team A or for Team B.. It's closer than you might at first think.