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2011 Oakland Raiders In-Season Thread (1 Viewer)

'Raiderfan32904 said:
'Chadstroma said:
Stefan Wisnewski. Interesting that we passed on Mallet.
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I like the pick. Raider bloodlines. We needed the help on the O-line. I don't like Mallet's makeup. Lil' Wiz is going to make a nice impact on the line, and we need a center. Satele did a great job in the 2nd half of last year, and we don't have a backup on the roster, till this pick. I honestly was hoping that we would have had a shot at Kaepernick, but that wasn't to be. I think you'll like what you see from Stefan.
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I was not saying that I did not like the pick. Just has to say alot about Mallet that he has fallen so far.
 
Biography: Three-year starter at both guard and center who has been awarded all-Conference honors since his sophomore campaign.Positives: "Adequately sized lineman with a good head for the position. Blocks with good lean, gets leverage on opponents, and effectively uses his hands to keep defenders away. Keeps his feet moving, is quick out to the second level, and shows the ability to hit a moving target. Displays terrific vision and helps out his teammates. Stays square and is a solid position blocker who rides defenders from their angle of attack."Negatives: "Lacks a dominant base, gets pushed off the line by larger opponents, and struggles to finish blocks. Not a natural knee bender."Analysis: Wisniewski has been productive on the college level and shows the versatility to line up at several positions. He's a workman type player who would be effective in a zone blocking system that puts him in motion.Projection: 3-4
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'Chadstroma said:
Stefan Wisnewski. Interesting that we passed on Mallet.
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I was probably rooting for Kaepernick, but mostly because I didn't think we'd go interior line.Love the pick. Kid whose first choice was to play for us, and will learn every dirty trick in the book from Uncle. I am looking forward to watching this O-line mature. Right tackle is still a question mark, but the whole line has potential. And it really is looking athletic all the way across left to right.I am a really big fan of all these QBs going today. It can only be good for us.
 
'UnknownCoach said:
I'm hoping and thinking they make him a center from day 1.
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Question is, do they do away with Cables ZBS system or go to Power blocking all the time? Satele showed he could do both last year, but he's better suited to ZBS. So is Stefan. Whatever they decide, I just hope that is the end of the Veldheer at Center experiment. Veldheer needs to slide over to LT full time.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
'UnknownCoach said:
I'm hoping and thinking they make him a center from day 1.
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Question is, do they do away with Cables ZBS system or go to Power blocking all the time? Satele showed he could do both last year, but he's better suited to ZBS. So is Stefan. Whatever they decide, I just hope that is the end of the Veldheer at Center experiment. Veldheer needs to slide over to LT full time.
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I don't think that there is any doubt Veldheer is going to play LT. (at least in my mind) I think they were plugging Veldheer in pretty much anywhere they could to get him snaps. So, when there was an opportunity, they put him in. Plus, we really did not have anyone to play C if Satele was not able to go. So, Veldheer got the nod.
 
Jackson: Wisniewski is the center

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Friday, April 29th, 2011 at 4:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Hue Jackson said flatly that Stefan Wisniewski is the center of the Raiders.

Sounds like Wisniewski won’t be playing guard. Also sounds like Samson Satele is a backup or headed elsehwere. With Satele entering some form of free agency, Jackson couldn’t discuss Satele’s status.

Jackson said he went of his way to avoid talking to Steve Wisniewski about Stefan to form his own judgement and made it point to say it was about Stefan, not about his uncle.

Wisniewski’s pick is similar to that of last year’s selection of Rolando McClain. The Raiders have placed a smart, tough player who a taste for film and football in the middle of their offense.

 
Stefen Wisniewski a Raider

AFC West rival Denver had the two picks proceeding Oakland but the Raiders were able to get the man they wanted, Penn State O lineman Stefen Wisniewski.

The 6-3, 313 lb Raider legacy will be coached in part by his Uncle Steve Wisniewski a former Penn State All American and Oakland Raider All Pro will be Coaching his nephew on the Raiders O line this year.

The Raiders desperately needed to address the O line with the departure of LG Robert Gallery imminent, RT Langston Walker talking of retirement and RG Cooper Carlisle retirement age and a ZBS blocker,( a scheme Oakland no longer runs ) the Raiders needed an infusion of youth and talent.

Wisniewski is a value pick for the Raiders because he can play Guard or Center aas needed. With last years Center Samson Satele showing improvement the Raiders have hope, but if he falters again Wizzer provides insurance so that last years rookie starter Jareed Veldheer can remain at Left Tackle if the untoward happens.

*HC Hue Jackson has just stated Wisniewski is our Center this year! Satele, depending on the CBA could be a Free Agent this year. Apparently Oakland was not as thrilled with his progress as he'd hoped.

He's a solid, agile pass protector who is smart and mean. A good combination but he lacks "sand" and could use some more muscle and brute power.

He's got good technique and looks like a starter day one.

With rumors Oakland has been desperately trying to trade up yesterday and today, they stayed pat and picked up a solid piece to their O line question.

Mr. Wizniewski, welcome to the Dark Side....

 
Mcshay's take on Wisniewski:

Oakland Stefen Wisniewski OC Penn State

What he brings: Wisniewski is a limited athlete but has enough short-area quickness and takes good enough angles to excel on the interior. His strength is in his lower body, allowing him to root defenders off the ball when in phone-booth situations. His lack of overall balance and inability to sustain blocks are concerns.

How he fits: LG Robert Gallery is on his way out and C Samson Satele could leave in free agency, which leaves a big hole inside. This is a pretty good run blocking group that struggles in pass protection and while Wisniewski is not a gifted athlete, he can really solidify the interior of a unit that really needs a makeover and he will bring toughness.

 
'Raider Nation said:
'massraider said:
We might still take another OL then. Nice. Would love a tackle here.
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HELL yeah. This team is very, very close to being very, very good. And I'm usually Mr. Negativity.
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I'm having a tough time seeing value at another need. A fast CB is always a possibility, House or Marsh or someone. But I could really see an OT here. Wouldn't get mad at Mason Foster at LB, but we went big on D last year, seems like it's the offense's turn.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Jackson: Wisniewski is the centerBy Jerry McDonald - NFL WriterFriday, April 29th, 2011 at 4:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.Hue Jackson said flatly that Stefan Wisniewski is the center of the Raiders.Sounds like Wisniewski won’t be playing guard. Also sounds like Samson Satele is a backup or headed elsehwere. With Satele entering some form of free agency, Jackson couldn’t discuss Satele’s status.Jackson said he went of his way to avoid talking to Steve Wisniewski about Stefan to form his own judgement and made it point to say it was about Stefan, not about his uncle.Wisniewski’s pick is similar to that of last year’s selection of Rolando McClain. The Raiders have placed a smart, tough player who a taste for film and football in the middle of their offense.
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Ok, guess I was wrong.
 
OverviewVan Dyke is a developmental sub-package defensive back prospect due to his track speed and height. Can do some good things in deep coverage and can recover but isn't sound in zone or underneath man coverage. Can make some plays on the ball but isn't going to rack up the interceptions. Is not physical when coming up to support the run. Isn't comfortable playing in a crowd but does break down well in space. Van Dyke was a dual-sport athlete at Miami (track) and has worked hard on the gridiron but only carries a mid-to-late round grade.StrengthsVan Dyke is blessed with great speed and good height for a corner. Track athlete who can recover when beat and shows good burst to the football. Does a good job defending the deep ball with his length and straight-line speed. Is a good tackler in the open field. Hard-working and durable.WeaknessesOverall defensive back skill set needs polish. Is not overly fluid when asked to turn and run or stick with savvy route-runners. Will drift from his position in zone coverage. Not a real playmaker in terms of coming down with the INT. Not very productive when coming up in run support.
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He is a speed guy... surprised?
 
Combine Stats * 40 Yard Dash 4.28 Time * Bench Press5.0 Reps * Vertical Jump33.5 Height * Broad Jump121.0 Distance * 3 Cone Drill6.97 Time * 20 Yard Shuttle4.09 Time * 60 Yard Shuttle11.46 Time
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Biography: Part-time starter the past four years. Had 20/2/5 as a senior and 30/1/3 as a junior.Positives: "Physically gifted cornerback who never pulled together a complete game on the college level. Quick-footed in reverse, can flip his hips in transition, and shows a burst of speed. Physical, will mix it up with receivers throughout the route, and aggressively defends the run. Takes on bigger opponents. Gives effort on special teams, specifically on coverage units."Negatives: Struggles making plays with his back to the ball and slow getting his head around to locate the pass in the air. Possesses a thin build. Adequate burst out of his plant.Analysis: Van Dyke displayed a variety of NFL type skills throughout his college career and performed well for scouts in the postseason. He has the fundamentals to play for a team at the next level. Van Dyke is a developmental prospect with the ability to see action as a rookie.Projection: 4
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Harsh Van Dyke review

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Friday, April 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

At the risk of being the you-know-what in the punch bowl, here’s the analysis of Russ Lande, the draft analyst for the Sporting News, on Raiders third-round pick (No. 81 overall) DeMarcus Van Dyke of Miami:

Van Dyke is a three-year starter & four-year player at CB for the Hurricanes in 2010. He was benched during the middle of the season. He has a lean, lanky frame with some definite growth potential to add strength for the position at the next level. He is a very good overall athlete with excellent speed, range, & quickness in his play. He is not a consistent or disciplined coverage player, despite his physical & athletic qualities. He has great reach, feet, & hips as a press m/m coverage player. He can play in tight m/m coverage down the field, but has very little production on the ball in the air over the course of his career. He tends to guess & jumps underneath as an off m/m & zone coverage player. He is more of a typical, finesse player for his position in run support & as a tackler. He tends to catch & drag-down as a tackler. He will grab & miss or else swipes at ankles a lot. He is not very productive in any phase of the game this season. Overall, he deserves late 5th round draft consideration due to his excellent physical & athletic qualities. However, he appears to be more of a tease, than an actual prospect with potential to develop. He reminds me a lot of a combination of former Buckeye Donald Washington [4th round-#102-KC] & former Bearcat Brandon Underwood [6th round-#187-GB].

Rod Woodson worked out VanDyke and Brandon Harris at Miami.

The Raiders also picked up the No. 92 pick from New England in Round 3, as well as No. 125 in Round 4, in exchanged for next year’s second-round draft pick.

Guess they don’t think much of next year’s Round 2. Or they’ll simply make a trade next year and get back into it.

 
Overview

Barksdale has the combination of size, strength and athleticism to rate among the top offensive tackles in the 2011 class. But the key is -- potential. He's developed a reputation as doing just enough to get by rather than truly honing his craft. Barksdale is athletic enough to slide over and help at left tackle in a pinch, but his future in the NFL is almost surely at right tackle or perhaps even inside at guard. Given his experience on the right side (26 of his 39 career starts came there), he should be able to contribute early in his pro career.

Perfect.

 
Glad we took another lineman. whew!

Joseph BarksdaleBiography: Three-year starter who began his career at right tackle before moving to the left side as a senior and winning all-Conference honors.Positives: "Big offensive lineman who's coming off a terrific senior season and has significantly improved his draft grade. Works to bend his knees, gets his hands into defenders, and stays square. Adjusts to oncoming rushers, keeps his feet moving, and seals opponents from the action with good body positioning. Anchors in pass protection, correctly places his hands into opponents, and effectively uses them to knock defenders from their angle of attack. Adequate strength at the point and displays the ability to turn defenders off the line run blocking."Negatives: Not light on his feet or effective in motion. Does a bit of bending at the waist. Average footwork at left tackle.Analysis: "Barksdale was a consistent player for LSU who made a successful transition to blind side tackle last year, improving on a weekly basis. He offers good size, growth potential, and upside for the next level. His play at left tackle last year moved him from the late rounds into a middle-round prospect."
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Positives: Ideal size. Long arms with an even distribution of weight. Versatile player who has only four years of experience at tackle. Came to LSU as a highly touted defensive tackle prospect and that defensive mentality is occasionally seen on tape. Gains good depth on his kick-slide and has the lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Long arms and strong hands to control. Can turn and seal off defenders in the running game, giving backs an easy lane to run through. Shows some athletic ability getting to the second level and, while not nimble, can get in the way of the linebacker, essentially making the block. Legitimate upside. Might just be scratching the surface of his potential and could wind up a better NFL player than he was in college.Negatives: Lacks the elite athleticism necessary to remain at left tackle in the pros — though he started and earned second-team All-SEC honors as a senior. Has a troubling tendency to drop his head and bend at the waist on contact, which puts him off-balance. Can be overwhelmed when he gets lazy and doesn’t keep his feet moving. Remains a technically flawed prospect who has been able to get by on only his natural ability
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Ok, now Jerry seems pissed...

Barksdale at No. 92

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Friday, April 29th, 2011 at 7:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders took LSU offensive tackle James Barksdale with the pick acquired from New England.

Defnitely a need-based draft. Stefan Wisniewski and Barksdale for the offensive line, which is being rebuilt. DeMarcus Van Dyke at cornerback, a need with the expected departure of Nnamdi Asomugha.

Barksdale is a third-round pick, so there are issues. Plays to the level of competition, lacks this, lacks that, etc.

The question is how he’ll play, along with No. 125, as opposed to the second-round pick Patriots get next year.
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I don't get that Pats trade. Seems like something an old fart would do. Like a reverse mortgage. Why is it always the Pats that feed us this bad candy?

 
Barksdale:

IyerAfter getting 6-8 Jared Veldheer at tackle last year, the Raiders go for a 336-pound project.LandeThe Raiders take a big gamble in the third round by grabbing the thickly built and athletic Barksdale. He has starter's talent, but does not play with passion and intensity on every snap and gets beaten way too often for an offensive tackle with his talent. He is the type of tackle who will tease because he can more his feet and has very good natural strength, but struggles to consistently keep his man from pressuring the quarterback. In our view, this is a big reach with little chance to become a starter.Strengths: Is a big, thick-bodied tackle with the flexibility to pass block with a good base and the quick footwork to cut off edge rushers. Uses his hands aggressively in pass protection, pinning defensive ends on the line of scrimmage. Works well with teammates to hand off the defensive end and slide back over to pick up and stunt the defensive tackle. Easily gets to the second level and delivers solid blow to linebackers.Weaknesses: Fails to block to his talent level because of poor technique. Doesn't always get to the corner to cut off edge rusher in time. Gets beaten by pass-rush moves too easily. Shows poor hand usage in pass protection, keeping them too low and often misses the block. Struggles to get movement on in-line run blocks.Bottom line: Barksdale lacks aggressiveness in his play, and that's one thing NFL coaches can't teach. Players like him rarely develop beyond backups and don't stick long in the league despite their talent.
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Players left you'd like?

I'd still like to grab Jordan Cameron as a 3rd TE, maybe #2 down the road.

I think a LB makes sense, Chris Carter, KJ Wright?--and could see a safety. Not much talent at those two spots, tho.

I could easily see another interior lineman. Boling, Shilling, Hurd....

 
'massraider said:
Players left you'd like?I'd still like to grab Jordan Cameron as a 3rd TE, maybe #2 down the road. I think a LB makes sense, Chris Carter, KJ Wright?--and could see a safety. Not much talent at those two spots, tho. I could easily see another interior lineman. Boling, Shilling, Hurd....
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My knowledge is not very good this deep into a draft. So, all I can say is that I would take the best available talent from OL, DL, LB, or DB and be happy. If we take Tyrod Taylor or Stanzi, I will scream loudly and painfully. We missed Kaepernick and did not want Mallet, so take a look at FA or trade (if we could get Carson Palmer in a trade that would be beautiful) and don't even think of QB until next year. Campbell is good enough. I don't think we need to bring in another RB, let's just keep Bush. I don't think we could get a WR that would make sense now since we have a stable of developing young guys- if we want another WR, I think we look to bring in a vet.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Jackson: Wisniewski is the centerBy Jerry McDonald - NFL WriterFriday, April 29th, 2011 at 4:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.Hue Jackson said flatly that Stefan Wisniewski is the center of the Raiders.Sounds like Wisniewski won’t be playing guard. Also sounds like Samson Satele is a backup or headed elsehwere. With Satele entering some form of free agency, Jackson couldn’t discuss Satele’s status.Jackson said he went of his way to avoid talking to Steve Wisniewski about Stefan to form his own judgement and made it point to say it was about Stefan, not about his uncle.Wisniewski’s pick is similar to that of last year’s selection of Rolando McClain. The Raiders have placed a smart, tough player who a taste for film and football in the middle of their offense.
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PERFECT!Of all the offensive holes to fill, center was IMO the most important one to fill with a top rookie prospect. We can fill in the guards with FAs or college tackles (like Gallery did and Campbell will). Likewise I'd rather sign a veteran QB or receiver than draft one with our first pick only to wait 3 more years to see if he's going to develope or not. Now we got a young hot prospect C who's father was a Raider who could start as soon as day 1 and stay for his career. W2 just needs to apply himself to the position and in the weight room. If Valdheer, Campbell, and W2 all work out we could have a great line for years to come. Couldnt ask for more from our second round pick. How many times has Al taken the fastest DB in the draft? I dont expect Van Dyke to become a great DB, but he should be at least useful. I'm praying we wont lose both Nmandi and Huff. Our secondary is likely going to be much more vulnerable this year.Barksdale sounds like the second coming of Mario Henderson. He can take his place, let's just not force the experiment in the starting lineup this time around.
 
'massraider said:
'Chadstroma said:
and don't even think of QB until next year.
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Ding ding.So many teams made commitments to QBs this year, that next year we might catch a falling star at that spot.
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From their position, absolutely :goodposting: But losing ASO and putting so much on Routt is not good off season management. If Hue can continue the progression on offense, where he showed creativity sorely lacking under previous regimes, Raiders might be a real tough opponent. But their D really regressed with the loss of ASO.
 
Would like to see the Raiders target one of Clint Boling and Marcus Cannon, along with Roy Helu Jr. at RB and Darvin Adams or Cecil Shorts at WR.

 
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