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2011 Oakland Raiders In-Season Thread (2 Viewers)

For me, it's all about Palmer. Such a relief to see him be OK, and see that the arm is solid. We haven't seen this team with a good QB in almost ten years. We need to start thinking about what this team can do if it is putting up 27+ points a game.

Raiders hold one-game edge in AFC West, ease of schedule

By Steve Corkran

Monday, November 14th, 2011 at 5:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders emerged from last week’s games with a one-game lead over the San Diego Chargers, Denver Broncos and Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC West.

It gets better the more you delve into the teams’ remaining seven games. The Raiders play four teams with losing records as of now, while the Broncos face only three such opponents and the Chargers and Chiefs one each.

The records of the Raiders’ remaining opponents is 32-29, not counting tonight’s Vikings-Packers game, teams the Raiders face between now and season’s end. The Broncos face teams that are a combined 32-30. The Chargers face teams that are 35-28, the Chiefs 41-22.

In other words, things are looking up for the Raiders in their bid to win the divisional title for the first time since 2002, the season they advanced to the Super Bowl.

“It makes me feel good,” defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said, “because I have never been in first this late in the season. At the same time, we can’t sneak up on anybody anymore. We’re the hunted now.

“We just got to make sure to dot all our I’s and cross our T’s. Like coach said at practice, we have to keep building until the end of the season, get better every day and take advantage of our opportunities.”

Actually, the Raiders and Chiefs were tied for first place at 5-4 last season. This season, the Raiders are right back at 5-4, one game ahead of the three 4-5 teams.

Raiders coach Hue Jackson said he and his players aren’t content. They also are encouraged by the fact that they haven’t played their best football.

“I have a high expectation for this team, for the staff, for everybody connected with this organization,” Jackson said.

“We’re not close yet. We know that. We’re chasing it. That’s the beautiful part, that it’s out there somewhere.

“We just got to get in it and do it. Now, do I think we’re playing better? Do I think we’re playing a little bit more consistently? Yes, I did in the last game. But that was one game.”

RAIDERS BACK IN GRIND

Jackson put his troops through the paces Monday for the first time since the Chargers game. That gave the players Friday, Saturday and Sunday to clear their minds, spend some time with family and friends and rest up their bodies.

That’s the end of the long breaks for the Raiders the rest of the season, unless they qualify for the playoffs and get a first-round bye. As of today, the Raiders would host the Baltimore Ravens in a first-round game.

“It’s good to be back,” Jackson said. “Guys are working, getting ready for a big game, Minnesota. Now we’ve got six more days to get healthier, get stronger and get better. Guys came out here with a good mind-set for the first day. We ran around a little bit and got the cobwebs out. Guys are excited about playing again.”

MCFADDEN UPDATE

Jackson said McFadden was out of the protective boot on his right foot when Jackson saw McFadden this morning. He added that McFadden still might be using the boot off and on.

Of more import, Jackson said, McFadden is making progress in his return from a midfoot sprain he suffered against the Kansas City Chiefs on Oct. 23. He has not practiced since and has spent a great deal of time in rehabilitation.

Jackson said it’s too early to gauge whether McFadden has a chance of playing against the Vikings. There’s still three practices left this week, which is plenty of time for McFadden to get back into football shape.

“I know we’re getting closer to getting him back out here,” Jackson said. “I know he’s working his tail off. When I saw him this morning, he looked good. Until we get closer later on in the week and we know exactly where he is, I don’t want to speculate.”

FORD BOOT-BOUND

Wide receiver Jacoby Ford’s right foot is in a walking boot, Jackson said. That’s not a surprise, given Ford’s injury occurred Thursday night against the San Diego Chargers.

Again, it’s too early for Jackson to make any kind of guess as to what Ford’s status might be later in the week or for the Vikings game.

“Nobody’s been ruled out as of now, so we’ll go through the week and see where we’re at,” Jackson said.

That includes defensive tackle Richard Seymour, middle linebacker Rolando McClain, free safety Michael Huff, cornerbacks Chris Johnson and DeMarcus Van Dyke, and others who were held out of practice or weren’t able to do much.

JOHNSON RESURFACES

Ran into starting cornerback Johnson, by chance, in the locker room today as he was passing through. Naturally, I stopped him to check on the status of his recovery from a hamstring injury.

Johnson revealed that his recovery hit a snag along the way, which has caused him to miss far more time than expected.

“I got infected, so I had to remove the infection fluid,” Johnson said. “My body’s healing, but I’ve got to be smart. Last time, I don’t think I was smart enough. I tried to come back too fast. I hurt myself.”

Johnson suffered a hamstring injury during training camp and underwent an “oil change,” his phrase for a surgery. He returned in time for the regular-season opener, only to aggravate the injury.

He played through the injury before he decided to shut it down after three games. He has missed the past six games. On Monday, he said he is out for the Vikings game but intends to play against the Chicago Bears on Nov. 27 if things go as planned.

“If you get any kind of major fluid in your muscle, they have to take care of that, because it can really turn into something worse than we expected,” Johnson said.

With Johnson and DeMarcus Van Dyke still out, the Raiders are short on cornerbacks. Therefore, they worked out five Monday (see the previous post).

WIMBLEY SACK HAPPY

Kamerion Wimbley’s four sacks against the Chargers fell one shy of Howie Long’s franchise record for a single game.

Wimbley said he wasn’t aware of that until after the game. He said he was more intent upon getting after Philip Rivers as often as possible.

He goosed his sacks total from two to six in one game. That’s precisely what he told Jackson was about to happen when they discussed the reasons for Wimbley’s lack of sacks early in the season.

Not that Wimbely was worried about his lack of sacks. He said he is pleased with how often he has pressured the quarterback, hit the quarterback and forced errant throws.

Just the same, he added, he understands the infatuation with sacks, even though sack leaders typically wind up with 10-20 sacks out of the 1,000 or so plays they are on the field for during a 16-game season.

“Well, it’s an important play in football because it’s a big momentum play,” Wimbley said. “A lot of it happens on third down, when you’re trying to get off the field. So, that’s kind of the thing that players, fans, coaches, they all look at that when you’re going against teams that are passing more now.

“So, it’s an important attribute. That’s why those players are in high demand, people who can get back to the quarterback and, not only get sacks, but another important statistic would be the hurries and if you make the quarterback throw incomplete passes. It all helps out.”

PALMER CHALLENGES MOORE

Another reason why Jackson and the Raiders love quarterback Carson Palmer, listen to rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore describe his first conversation with the veteran.

“He came in, asked me questions about, How is life, how I wanted to become a wide receiver, what it takes to be a good wide receiver, and then he turned around and asked me if I am willing to take on those challeges, am I willing to take advantage of the opportunity.

“I said ‘yes,’ and took it upon myself to spend some extra time with him, working out. We started to develop some chemistry.”

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Steve Corkran Raider chat starting now:http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/11/15/raiders-live-chat-today-at-noon-12/
This was a pretty good read. Corkran seems to pull less punches than Jerry Mac.Highlights:He thinks Mark Davis is definitely interested in Los Angeles.He thinks Hue has little interest in developing Al Davis scholarship players Bruce Campbell, DHB, and Pryor. He think DHB is straight up getting phased out.Thinks Barksdale may very well start next year. Think Chris Johnson doesn't get his starting job back when he comes back.Thinks DHB, CJ, and Ford are all pointing to a Bears game return. Predicts a Pats/Raiders AFC title game (Well, dang)
 
Simple plan for the Vikings... prevent big runs from Peterson, prevent big returns on kicks, and dont turnover the football.

We've gotten lucky and recovered several of our own fumbles this year. Oakland coaches need to preach better ball security. Run defense is still a huge issue and needs to step up this week. Have to improve in that area and this game will test us. Should be able to put 8 men in the box most of the game. Maybe Routt will shadow Harvin since it worked out ok against the Chargers. Our special teams has taken a big step backwards this year. They need to step back up. Offense wont look as good this week as they did against the weak Chargers D but should be able to score on the Vikings.

If all goes well, we could be two games ahead in the division after this week. Chiefs lost their QB. Like in Miami and with us, it will take KC time to adjust to a new QB. Chargers have lots of injury concerns of their own and are not playing well. Denver is starting to come on but I see the Jets shutting them down and showing the rest of the NFL how to stop a college offense.

 
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Safe to drop DHB right now if we need the roster spot?

I'm pretty stacked at WR: Antonio Brown, Fitz, Manningham, Bowe and Harvin. I can't see ever needing DHB, barring injury.

 
'Raider Nation said:
Safe to drop DHB right now if we need the roster spot?I'm pretty stacked at WR: Antonio Brown, Fitz, Manningham, Bowe and Harvin. I can't see ever needing DHB, barring injury.
Yes, I would drop DHB. And I'd offer Bowe and a half eaten day old tuna sandwich to the D. Moore owner as well.
 
:banned:

Good win.
:banned: For sure, but it was a hideous win.What's with The D and having a lead? Without those redzone picks we lose that game. And those ####### penalties HAVE GOT TO STOP!!!!!!!!
Hideous or not, a win is a win. You clean things up as you go along.GO BEARS!
You must have missed the "for sure" part of my post. And we've had 2.5 months to clean up giving up a big lead. The buffalo game may still come back and bite us in the ###. Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked to get the win. But it was a tale of 2 halves AGAIN. If we are going to #### the bed against the bills, the broncos and the Vikings, we are gonna need a 40-50 point lead against a playoff team in order to secure the win.

 
Yes, they again made the game a lot more interesting that it should have been. But I also think there were some BS calls against us, and I don't blame Hue for being mad about them. And the defense tightened up when it needed to. Branch and Routt came through in the crunch. Were still banged up and I wont be surprised if the injury report is lengthy. Still, encouraging to win the games we needed to win. At the end of the year, you don't remember how you get a "W", you just notch them on the way to the playoff berth.

A Bears win will be huge and give us a 2 game gap on them. Go Bears!

 
Agreed with all that's been said -- a win is a win, and it puts us in sole position of 1st at 6-4, and with 6 games left to play, that's as good a position to be in than I could have hoped for at this point in the season.

But we aren't going to make the playoffs, let alone go very far in them, if we can't put our foots on the throats of opposing players, and keep the same focus and intensity through all 4 quarters of play.

Penalties has been a staple of the Raiders since our AFL days. It's part of the ethos of the club, and I don't think we should back away from what makes the Raiders the Raiders -- physical, aggressive hits meant to intimidate and send a message.

But that style of play can't cost us games, or put the opponent in a position to overcome a Raider lead or put us further in a hole -- which has been the norm not just this year but in year's past. Hue has the team playing with poise and pride; he also needs to get us playing with discipline and a commitment to excellence in all phases of the game.

Also, we have a tough stretch against CHI, GB (@ Lambeau) and DET. MIA is underratred despite their record, and even if we make it through these games in contention, having to play KC in Arrowhead and our season closer vs SD are going to be out-and-out wars.

Love the wins on the road, and a win is a win, no matter how ugly. We're in a great spot but the road only gets harder. So here's to learning what we need to do to retain the will to win through the rest of the season.

 
With Cutler likely on the shelf (speculating) with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, we just might luck out and get the Bears with Caleb Hanie at QB. :thumbup:

 
With Cutler likely on the shelf (speculating) with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, we just might luck out and get the Bears with Caleb Hanie at QB. :thumbup:
3-3 will be a small miracle IMHO. It's a brutal 6 games. I'm flying to the GB game, LOOK AT ME! So there will be at least 3 raider fans there :banned:
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
With Cutler likely on the shelf (speculating) with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, we just might luck out and get the Bears with Caleb Hanie at QB. :thumbup:
It helps, but we also have to shut down the run. The Denver game wasn't too long ago to forget one of our vulnerabilities.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
With Cutler likely on the shelf (speculating) with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, we just might luck out and get the Bears with Caleb Hanie at QB. :thumbup:
It helps, but we also have to shut down the run. The Denver game wasn't too long ago to forget one of our vulnerabilities.
Yep, but we do have the players. Which is more than I could say when we had Sam Williams and Kir Morrison at LB.I will always believe that the defense we run, you are feast or famine in the running game. The free safety is way out of the play in the Cover 1, and cornerbacks are facing away from the play, covering the wideouts. In a Cover 2 zone, the corners are facing the offense, and can force the run SO much quicker. The D-line is penetrating, shooting gaps, not controlling two gaps like a 3 man line, so sometines they blow up the back three yard deep, and sometimes the back runs right by them. We can get better in the rush defense, obviously, be more disciplined, but we will always be vulnerable to the big run. :shrug: It is what it is. I do wish we had shut the door on Minny early, but I also saw some positive stuff. The ball bounced Minny's way in almost every way aside from turnovers. We gave them 30 yards of free field position onthe first drive, because of freak roughness penalties. And those weren't dumb plays, the Raiders just caught the wrong end of the dumb new focus on protecting the offense. Curry just happened to hit the ball carrier head to head, and Ponder happened to duck his head into Kelly's arm. Just bad luck. I will say I was pretty unhappy with the officiating in general, and will leave it at that. It all comes back to health, to me. Can we get all these players back, please? it's nice that Bush can plow for 5 or 6, but we are missing one of the most dynamic players in the NFL in McFadden. We need to remeber that. I liked Hue's playcalling again. Big, big thumbs up to getting Reece involved. Maybe the worst matchup fullback since Larry Centers. Should get Pro Bowl votes. And I am terribly excited about Palmer. He had incompletions, several of them, where he threw to a covered receiver, but he threw it where the WR should have been. He was 'throwing them open', but they weren't getting there. They are young, don't have that savvy yet. But Palmer's arm is obviously fine, he is healthy, and the rapport will only get better. Lot of stops and starts with the offense that is just a result of missing starters, and lack of rapport. I don't know how fast that comes, I am hoping it gets better over the next four weeks. We have gotten some breaks. Peterson getting hurt, Cutler and the broken thumb. Nice to have a few breaks go our way.
 
Solid as always mass

Pretty sure I saw a piece on the bears running cover 1 a lot more this year. And it working for them. Their lbs are better than ours, but I like what I see in curry. Like it a lot. 92 not playing much today hurt our run game as well.

The game that I see as a must win is mami, then get 2 of the other 5 & we likely win the division.

 
Carson Palmer is taking charge of the offense. Suddenly we have leadership and control that we havent had since Rich Gannon was at the helm. What I liked is that despite so many audibles we were still a run first offense. What really impressed me is that Palmer took fewer chances and made fewer mistakes this week. He's not simply a gun slinger. He's a leader, game manager, and a smart NFL QB. Phillip Rivers is no longer the best QB in the AFC West.

Bush's fumble got the Vikings back into the game but its something he rarely does. It will be diffacult to find a replacement for him next year. He could be the top RB in free agency. DHB hopefully wont miss any more time with his neck injury. He was taken to the hospital on a stretcher but released shortly afterwards. They always use extra caution with neck injuries. Doesnt mean its serious.

Pass protection broke down at times again but overall the offense played good. Why cant we score in the fourth quarter though? We cant seem to put any team away. Did guys not run enough sprints in training camp? Is the whole team just wearing down every week? In the first half of games we look like a contender. In the second half we look like a team in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. Both the defense and offense are faltering late in games. Its great we are winning but I want to see us blow somebody out. I hate having to watch our defense have to make a stop at the end of every game. It works against a rookie QB but how are we going to win in the playoffs if we cant play 4 quarters?

After Peterson got hurt, the game was easy. We still let Ponder run for several big plays but we did a good job against Harvin when he was in the backfield. I still dont like our run defense. McClain gets blocked too easily and our safeties are soft and usually late. Got to quit leaving the field wide open for the opponent's QB to run also. Still a work in progress.

Special teams kick coverage played much better. If we make that last field goal that pretty much seals the victory. Like everything else things start falling apart and the game doesnt get decided until the end. I'll gladly take the win though.

9-7 should win this division. The biggest threat right now is Denver who we dont play again. Best to beat KC and San Diego and then we just need 1 more to get there. Any 3 should do it but if it comes down to a tiebreaker we want those division wins. Go Raiders!

 
We lost 28-0 to this sorry-ass team. AT HOME.

:lmao:

:cry:

:wall:
:mellow:
Odd season, this. We get blown up by two teams we owned last year -- KC and Denver -- and lost a game we should have by all means held together and won against Buffalo.It is what it is, any given Sunday and all that. But I can't help thinking had we shown up and did what we had to do in at least two of those those three games (let's say Denver and Buffalo, given we were in complete QB flux vs the Chiefs), we'd have the best record in the AFC right now.

The most impressive thing for me this year has been the offensive line turnaround. This is the best they have looked in the trenches in years, and Veldheer looks like a pro-bowler in his first year. Give tons of credit to Palmer, who came in midway through the season, picked up the offense after one game and a bye week, and started to own the offense. That's a hard task to gain that kind of poise, command of the tools around him, leadership, and the respect of this team.

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
With Cutler likely on the shelf (speculating) with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, we just might luck out and get the Bears with Caleb Hanie at QB. :thumbup:
It helps, but we also have to shut down the run. The Denver game wasn't too long ago to forget one of our vulnerabilities.
Yep, but we do have the players. Which is more than I could say when we had Sam Williams and Kir Morrison at LB.I will always believe that the defense we run, you are feast or famine in the running game. The free safety is way out of the play in the Cover 1, and cornerbacks are facing away from the play, covering the wideouts. In a Cover 2 zone, the corners are facing the offense, and can force the run SO much quicker.

The D-line is penetrating, shooting gaps, not controlling two gaps like a 3 man line, so sometines they blow up the back three yard deep, and sometimes the back runs right by them. We can get better in the rush defense, obviously, be more disciplined, but we will always be vulnerable to the big run. :shrug: It is what it is.

I do wish we had shut the door on Minny early, but I also saw some positive stuff. The ball bounced Minny's way in almost every way aside from turnovers. We gave them 30 yards of free field position onthe first drive, because of freak roughness penalties. And those weren't dumb plays, the Raiders just caught the wrong end of the dumb new focus on protecting the offense. Curry just happened to hit the ball carrier head to head, and Ponder happened to duck his head into Kelly's arm. Just bad luck.

I will say I was pretty unhappy with the officiating in general, and will leave it at that.

It all comes back to health, to me. Can we get all these players back, please? it's nice that Bush can plow for 5 or 6, but we are missing one of the most dynamic players in the NFL in McFadden. We need to remeber that.

I liked Hue's playcalling again. Big, big thumbs up to getting Reece involved. Maybe the worst matchup fullback since Larry Centers. Should get Pro Bowl votes.

And I am terribly excited about Palmer. He had incompletions, several of them, where he threw to a covered receiver, but he threw it where the WR should have been. He was 'throwing them open', but they weren't getting there. They are young, don't have that savvy yet. But Palmer's arm is obviously fine, he is healthy, and the rapport will only get better. Lot of stops and starts with the offense that is just a result of missing starters, and lack of rapport. I don't know how fast that comes, I am hoping it gets better over the next four weeks.

We have gotten some breaks. Peterson getting hurt, Cutler and the broken thumb. Nice to have a few breaks go our way.
Very solid points!
 
Solid as always mass

Pretty sure I saw a piece on the bears running cover 1 a lot more this year. And it working for them. Their lbs are better than ours, but I like what I see in curry. Like it a lot. 92 not playing much today hurt our run game as well.
They're allowing 5.0 YPC, I think Mass nailed it regarding the big holes it leaves you susceptible to, and the big plays that come with big holes.

 
Hide the women and children. This game is gonna be **** Butkus/Otis Sistrunk U-G-L-Y!

It's got 13-10 written all over it. If Lechler punts away from Hester and Forte doesn't go nuts, we'll have a good shot.

 
Wild West Roller Coaster

My, how things change...

Denver Broncos (5-5-0)

Denver waived this seasons starter Kyle Orton who was pursued by Dallas and Chicago but was claimed off waivers first by a team with a worse record than both of those teams.

Division rival Kansas City.

Orton could get his shot at revenge when the two teams meet on New Years day, a perfect opportunity to play U2's "New Years Day".

The Broncos have survived not thrived under the pass-less QB Tim Tebow who is flat out horrible except when it counts. Like the man who damned Tebow with faint praise, 4th quarter comeback King and former Bronco QB Legend John Elway. Elways opinion matters not only because of his legacy but because hes Denvers new GM.

With a decimated RB corps the Broncos uglier than sin College option game has sadly worked thus far but its doubtful such a gimmick could take Denver deep into the playoffs. Especially once teams figure out their DEs need to stay home and simply set the edge to stop it.

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (4-6-0)

KC fans laughed when Oakland lost its starting QB to a broken clavicle, but soon lost their sense of humor when their QB Matt Cassel suffered an undisclosed but "significant hand injury".

The Chiefs had already lost All-Pro running back Jamaal Charles, Pro Bowl safety Eric Berry, tight end Tony Moeaki and linebacker Brandon Siler to season ending injuries. Cassel was placed on IR yesterday and is scheduled for surgery.

Its ironic that Cassel broke his hand against Denver but may get the last laugh and revenge for Orton if things fall their way.

Don't forget, Pro Bowl WR Dwayne Bowe, excellent rookie prospect Jonathan Baldwin, and former Cardinal Steve Breaston will make fine targets for Orton if they can protect him.

Better than they did Cassel.

SAN DIEGO CHARGERS (4-6-0)

Reversing their previous trend, San Diego started fast and is now in danger of stalling out.

With an O line decimated by injury, former Pro Bowl TE Antonio Gates injured, fat and slow and QB Philip Rivers misfiring several times a game the Charge-less Chargers have dropped 5 in a row, their worst losing streak since 2003.

Rivers has tossed a career high 17 picks, 3 of them to Oaklands next opponent, Chicago.

We've stated at the time San Diego's 17 pick jump in the 1st round of the 2010 NFL draft would come back to haunt them. The Chargers paid Mathews #12th overall money despite the fact Mathews couldn't stay healthy. He hasn't and its showed. The Chargers let Darrin Sproles go to the Saints in Free Agency with fingers crossed hoping Mathews could remain viable for an entire season for the first time since...has there been? Other injuries have hurt but Mathews fumble last week end spelled doom for San Diego and serves as a fitting metaphor.

OAKLAND RAIDERS (6-4-0)

The Raiders lead the Division in part thanks to the dismantling of their competition at the hands of attrition, rebuilds and poor management but Oakland is the most surprising team of all.

Like their divisional foes, Oakland has suffered massive losses, including the best RB in the League Darren McFadden, their starting RDE Matt Shaughnessy, their starting QB Jason Campbell, WRs Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and now rookie WR sensation Denarius Moore was seen with a walking boot today.

The biggest loss of all of course was their one and only owner Al Davis.

Rookie Head Coach Hue Jackson has made move after spectacular move as is possessed by the ghost of Al Davis. Starting with the surprise addition and reclamation of former 1st round pick LB Aaron Curry and culminated in the block buster addition of QB Carson Palmer and WR TJ Houshmandzadeh.

He also started adding "W"s to the win column.

Even with McFadden out and much of the roster devastated by injury, Oakland continues to adapt, adjust and just win baby. We'll see if they can do it again against a Cutler-less Bears team known for relying on RB Matt Forte's stellar ground attack. Many think back up QB Caleb Hanie could pose more of a Tebow like scrambling QB who gave Oakland big trouble a few weeks ago but Oakland will be fine if their DEs set the edge and simply contain. Interestingly enough, the Bears, having failed to claim Orton signed former Raider QB Josh McKown so if anything happens to Hanie...
 
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'Raider Nation said:
Here is the full Sports Illustrated article about JaFatass Russell if anyone cares.

Homeboy still doesn't get it.
Nothing I type on this forum can really express the hate and disdain I have, for that fat, lazy, overgrown kid.

He was a draft pick, but he was never a Raider.
"There was no mentoring," laments Russell's aunt, Terry Green. Russell agrees, "Look at [Jets starter] Mark Sanchez and [veteran backup] Mark Brunell. Mark Brunell knows ###### well he ain't going to come in the game. He's there to help. I wish I'd had someone to do that."In an attempt to rouse quarterback Mark Sanchez from his two-game funk, New York Jets coach Rex Ryan has resorted to a motivational ploy that worked last season. Ryan sat Sanchez for a few plays in practice Monday and Tuesday, hoping to unlock the third-year quarterback's "fighting spirit."

This marked the first time this season that backup Mark Brunell received first-team reps in practice.

:unsure:

 
'Raider Nation said:
Here is the full Sports Illustrated article about JaFatass Russell if anyone cares.

Homeboy still doesn't get it.
Nothing I type on this forum can really express the hate and disdain I have, for that fat, lazy, overgrown kid.

He was a draft pick, but he was never a Raider.
"There was no mentoring," laments Russell's aunt, Terry Green. Russell agrees, "Look at [Jets starter] Mark Sanchez and [veteran backup] Mark Brunell. Mark Brunell knows ###### well he ain't going to come in the game. He's there to help. I wish I'd had someone to do that."In an attempt to rouse quarterback Mark Sanchez from his two-game funk, New York Jets coach Rex Ryan has resorted to a motivational ploy that worked last season. Ryan sat Sanchez for a few plays in practice Monday and Tuesday, hoping to unlock the third-year quarterback's "fighting spirit."

This marked the first time this season that backup Mark Brunell received first-team reps in practice.

:unsure:
Oh, if we only had Brunell, :lmao: .That is fitting for a lazy bum to point the finger that he didn't get enough help. 31 other teams decided to let Russell go eat cake with his aunt, but, sure, his aunt is probably right. She is putting her reputation, as Jarmacus Russell's aunt, on the line for this article.

:lmao:

 
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'Raider Nation said:
Here is the full Sports Illustrated article about JaFatass Russell if anyone cares.

Homeboy still doesn't get it.
Nothing I type on this forum can really express the hate and disdain I have, for that fat, lazy, overgrown kid.

He was a draft pick, but he was never a Raider.
"There was no mentoring," laments Russell's aunt, Terry Green. Russell agrees, "Look at [Jets starter] Mark Sanchez and [veteran backup] Mark Brunell. Mark Brunell knows ###### well he ain't going to come in the game. He's there to help. I wish I'd had someone to do that."In an attempt to rouse quarterback Mark Sanchez from his two-game funk, New York Jets coach Rex Ryan has resorted to a motivational ploy that worked last season. Ryan sat Sanchez for a few plays in practice Monday and Tuesday, hoping to unlock the third-year quarterback's "fighting spirit."

This marked the first time this season that backup Mark Brunell received first-team reps in practice.

:unsure:
Oh, if we only had Brunell, :lmao: .That is fitting for a lazy bum to point the finger that he didn't get enough help. 31 other teams decided to let Russell go eat cake with his aunt, but, sure, his aunt is probably right. She is putting her reputation, as Jarmacus Russell's aunt, on the line for this article.

:lmao:
Thanks for posting that article, RN -- interesting read.No doubt that JaMarucs's failure is largely his own -- to succeed, you need to want to continue to improve, to push yourself further and beyond. JaMarcus was a raw talent who seemed to get comfottable at the level of success he found in college, simply because he could succeeed at that level on his own merits. But to make it at the next level, you have to get outside your comfort zone and stretch.

Blaming the system ("I didn't have a mentor") or the organization ("I was loyal to Cable, and he turned on me") doesn't work. JaMarcus looked like he also was battling some justifiable obstavles -- apnea, 11 deaths in the family, enormous pressure, etc.. We're all only human after all.

But this article cements for me exactly why JaMarcus failed -- he did not have the drive to push himself to realize his full potential. The article only depicts a slice of his life, to be sure, but it's a pretty apt metaphor -- instead of sweating blood, sweat and tears to make it in the NFL, he's content being the richest guy in a small rural town holding court at the local barbershop.

Some other interesting parts of the article for me:

A congenitally dysfunctional organization, the Raiders could scarcely have been a worse fit. They surrounded Russell with mediocre talent: Justin Fargas was no Marcus Allen, Ronald Curry no Tim Brown, Lane Kiffin no John Madden.
True. But there aren't too many people who ARE like Marcus, Brown and Madden. Being surrounded by superstars makes everyone's job more easier, esp. the QB's. But the point is that JaMarcus was satisfied to play down to (and way beneath) the level of the team, instead of leading and inspiring others and himself to achieve.
Of the meeting with Davis, Russell recalls, "He wished me the best and apologized that it came out this way. He said, 'I'm getting older, and things are getting out of my hands.
Wow. Al Davis NEVER struck me, at any time, as someone who would let his team "get out of his hands." Interesting if true, and I wonder how this was playing out.
When he heard about a family that had lost its home in a fire, he says he drove up, handed the mother $10,000 in cash and drove off.
Russell was cited as doing many other charitable things and sharing the wealth he gained in his community. Just a good reminder that people and situations and motivations are never simply black and white. As much as Russell is demonized (and unfairly so in many cases), there are always many sides to a coin.
Russell leans in, practically whispering. "But want to know the truth?" he says. "I know that the game don't owe me a damn thing."
Interesting self-knowledge displayed here after externalizing most of his problems in the interview.
 
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But this article cements for me exactly why JaMarcus failed -- he did not have the drive to push himself to realize his full potential.
I'm sure most of us in here have heard this story, but for those who may not have:One week, Tom Cable gave Russell a DVD. It was presented as the game plan on how to attack the Chiefs. Cable told Russell to take it home and watch it…. The next day Cable asked Russell what he thought about the game plan. Russell told him it was great and he was on board. The DVD was blank.Cable gave Russell a blank DVD to see if Russell was putting in his work. He was benched the following week.
 
Nice win!!

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Would have liked more Td's. But I liked what I saw.

Curry has been awesome.

2 more wins and we get a Home playoff game

 
Nice win!! :banned: :banned: :banned: Would have liked more Td's. But I liked what I saw. Curry has been awesome. 2 more wins and we get a Home playoff game
Good thought, but I can't get too fired up just yet, it's a hard row to hoe these last 5 games. We could optimistically stay strong and optimistically net 3 out of 5 and finish 10-6 with the division -- and a playoff berth -- secure.But we could just as easily go 1-4, with Denver eking us out by winning against the weaker teams left on their schedule (MIN, KC, potentially even BUF).Another win -- hope Hue and the boys stay grounded and focused.
 
Denver is keeping the pressure on us. We are still one game ahead of them but they are a half a game ahead of us vs the division if it comes down to a tie breaker. The only division game they have left they are at home against the Chiefs. We have to go to Arrowhead and finish home against the Chargers. We need to keep winning one game at a time. I no longer feel safe with 9 wins. The playoff hopes are pretty much gone for the Chargers and Chiefs, but they can still make us earn the division.

Special teams played well against the Bears but the offense and defense only did just enough. Yeah we got multiple interceptions but when you look at their QB situation its not that impressive. A particuliarly good note the penalties were down. Jackson's talk with the league likely helped. The players seemed to be on better behavior also. We'll see if that lasts or not. I'll miss the bad boy image but I'll definately take the wins.

 
Denver is keeping the pressure on us. We are still one game ahead of them but they are a half a game ahead of us vs the division if it comes down to a tie breaker. The only division game they have left they are at home against the Chiefs. We have to go to Arrowhead and finish home against the Chargers. We need to keep winning one game at a time. I no longer feel safe with 9 wins. The playoff hopes are pretty much gone for the Chargers and Chiefs, but they can still make us earn the division.

Special teams played well against the Bears but the offense and defense only did just enough. Yeah we got multiple interceptions but when you look at their QB situation its not that impressive. A particuliarly good note the penalties were down. Jackson's talk with the league likely helped. The players seemed to be on better behavior also. We'll see if that lasts or not. I'll miss the bad boy image but I'll definately take the wins.

 
Special Teams Special in Win over Bears

On display today at the Coliseum were two of the finest Special Teams players in history and certainly the best combo ever fielded.

Punter Shane Lechler and Kicker Sebastian Janikowski demonstrated their prowess and ability to save and win games all by themselves. Only the second kicker ever taken in the 1st round, "The Polish Canon" has more than justified Mr. Davis' controversial selection and closed the mouths of naysayers. Janikowski set a Raider record by scoring 6 Field Goals from 40, 47, 42, 19, 37 and 44 yards respectively. He also helped negate return threat Devin Hester with touchbacks and all while injured with a hamstring strain.

Punter Shane Lechler boomed punts and pinned the Bears deep with Coffin Corner kicks with Ray Guy-like precision and even booming a record shattering 80 yarder. Lechler said afterward: I’ve hit a lot of footballs in my life but that one’s probably top ten of ones I even hit in practice.”

Oakland’s kicking game saved the day when the Bears stout defense could not be broken in the red zone.

They eventually did surrender a touchdown after a brilliant drive that included a Louis Murphy deep strike on 3rd and short that picked up 47 yards and set Oakland up for an 8 play 74 yard drive culminated by a Michael Bush 3 yd TD run.

Bush finished with 69 yards on 24 carries and caught 4 for 24. Bush acquitted himself well but over the course of his post McFadden starts has shown that he is a liability in protection against anything bigger than a Cornerback.

Oakland, as they are wont to do, immediately gave back all they had taken by surrendering a ridiculous 81 yd deep strike to WR Johnnie Knox that changed the complexion of the game. The Bears drove in and score a Touchdown on Caleb Hanie's 9 yard TD pass that made the game 25-20 with 1:36 left on the clock. The Bears almost had the onside kick but the tie at the bottom of the scrum went to the Offense and rookie TE David Ausberry came up with the crucial dig.

After another fantastic punt by Lechler pinned them deep the Bears began to drive with time winding off the clock. A botched spike attempt by Hanie in his first ever NFL start drew a flag with :04 seconds left and the ensuing mandatory :10 run off killed the clock and ended the game.

Raider injuries are finally beginning to show. The Raiders should've dominated today at least on Defense and they did play well, but gave up huge plays and points. The Raiders eeked out a win at home against Chicago and that’s what matters.

Let’s hope the wait was worth it for two of Oakland’s come on line, hopefully, next week.
 

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