2011 offseason dynasty trades (2 Viewers)

[Instinctive]

I would say no way in hell is Hightower close to Julio in value. In 2 years, Julio could be the next...Calvin Johnson.I would take either side depending on my team's situation.

What situation is the Julio/Marshall side preferable? I don't think Marshall/Julio outscores Calvin and a WR you can get for Hightower straight up. Not in the next couple years and not long term. If you really need an extra WR, there were smarter ways of going about it than giving up a top 5 player.

Well part of it should take into account that while some see Calvin as a top 4 dynasty player...others see him as top 10.If I'm very young and pretty good at RB or I have absolutely nothing at RB but Calvin is all I have at receiver, I'll do this all day long. I get a WR who I think is a superstud in a year or two (perhaps sooner) while getting another guy who is a stud right now, but by no means old. Marshall is still a stud a year or two away, Julio is a stud or becomes a superstud, my RBs mature or I have a year or two to build around my Julio/Marshall core...I just think that a core of Julio/Marshall is better to build around than one of just Calvin.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Well part of it should take into account that while some see Calvin as a top 4 dynasty player...others see him as top 10.If I'm very young and pretty good at RB or I have absolutely nothing at RB but Calvin is all I have at receiver, I'll do this all day long.

If you're young and pretty good at RB, you can move Hightower. Let's say in this situation you can move Hightower for Evans or Ocho or Santana plus a flier like Jason Hill to a RB starved team.If you have nothing at RB but Hightower, its imperative you move Hightower. Let's say in this situation you can move Hightower for Ford or Cobb or maybe add a few picks to get Little or Collie.Would you rather compete this year with Ocho/Calvin or Julio/Marshall?Would you rather build around Cobb(take your pick)/Calvin or Julio/Marshall?We can look at hypotheticals too if Hightower wasn't involved. You know me well enough to know I would still stick to the Calvin side. I think depth is overrated here.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Team A trades Donnie Avery, Ahmad Bradshaw and

LaDainian Tomlinson to Team B for Ryan Grant,

Mario Manningham and James Starks.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Team A trades Donnie Avery, Ahmad Bradshaw and

LaDainian Tomlinson to Team B for Ryan Grant,

Mario Manningham and James Starks.

Don't trust Grant or Starks at all but I'd still take Grant/Starks to get Manningham.

 

[dagwood]

Team A trades Donnie Avery, Ahmad Bradshaw and

LaDainian Tomlinson to Team B for Ryan Grant,

Mario Manningham and James Starks.

Don't trust Grant or Starks at all but I'd still take Grant/Starks to get Manningham.

I like Bradshaw.

 

[ninerfan]

Team A gets:

Joe Flacco

2012 1st Round Pick

2012 2nd Round Pick

2012 3rd Round Pick

Team B gets:

Drew Brees

 

[Instinctive]

Well part of it should take into account that while some see Calvin as a top 4 dynasty player...others see him as top 10.If I'm very young and pretty good at RB or I have absolutely nothing at RB but Calvin is all I have at receiver, I'll do this all day long.

If you're young and pretty good at RB, you can move Hightower. Let's say in this situation you can move Hightower for Evans or Ocho or Santana plus a flier like Jason Hill to a RB starved team.If you have nothing at RB but Hightower, its imperative you move Hightower. Let's say in this situation you can move Hightower for Ford or Cobb or maybe add a few picks to get Little or Collie.Would you rather compete this year with Ocho/Calvin or Julio/Marshall?Would you rather build around Cobb(take your pick)/Calvin or Julio/Marshall?We can look at hypotheticals too if Hightower wasn't involved. You know me well enough to know I would still stick to the Calvin side. I think depth is overrated here.

The only rookie WRs I want any part of, period, are Julio and Green. In scenario 1 - I would rather have Julio/Marshall this year and into the future. Although, again, I'm assuming PPR.In scenario 2 - hell yeah I'd prefer Julio and Marshall. I want no part of any rookie receiver not named Green or Jones.

 

[Dez]

Team A gets:Joe Flacco2012 1st Round Pick2012 2nd Round Pick2012 3rd Round PickTeam B getsrew Brees

This guy did a lot better then guy who made this same QB swap.He traded Brees and only got back Flacco and a 2nd and 3rd

 

[Eastwood]

Team A gets:

Best, Maclin

Team B gets:

Stewart, Sidney Rice

PPR Dynasty

 

[I was in the pool]

Romo, roddy white

For

Eli, Calvin

12 team ppr

 

[Eastwood]

Romo, roddy whiteForEli, Calvin12 team ppr

Calvin all day easy.

 

[Patoons]

Gave: Denarius Moore, Jordan NorwoodGot: Joseph Addai, Cam Newton, 2012 3rd, 2013 4thI'm holding Moore in another league because I do believe in him, but Addai (I've already got Carter) gives me an option at RB2 in this league along with Beanie who I already have, where I have a roster capable of winning it all. Couldn't pass it up, and I'm hoping I've got the Colts backfield locked up now.

I'd take the Moore side, easily.

 

[Bamac]

Gave: Denarius Moore, Jordan NorwoodGot: Joseph Addai, Cam Newton, 2012 3rd, 2013 4thI'm holding Moore in another league because I do believe in him, but Addai (I've already got Carter) gives me an option at RB2 in this league along with Beanie who I already have, where I have a roster capable of winning it all. Couldn't pass it up, and I'm hoping I've got the Colts backfield locked up now.

I'd take the Moore side, easily.

Good move for ConnSKINS. Way to cash out on your 2011 3rd rounder(?)

 

[jonboltz]

Gave: Denarius Moore, Jordan NorwoodGot: Joseph Addai, Cam Newton, 2012 3rd, 2013 4thI'm holding Moore in another league because I do believe in him, but Addai (I've already got Carter) gives me an option at RB2 in this league along with Beanie who I already have, where I have a roster capable of winning it all. Couldn't pass it up, and I'm hoping I've got the Colts backfield locked up now.

I'd take the Moore side, easily.

I'd so unbelievably rather have the Addai/Newton side, even if you didn't already have Carter. With the notion that you would start Addai likely on several occasions, even w/o injuries to your team, makes this a slam dunk in your side. Frankly, I view both Addai AND Newton as better players to hold in a dynasty than Moore or Norwood.Well done.

 

[Eastwood]

Minor deal but helps my roster needs

I gave: Demaryius Thomas, Doucet, 3rd in 2012

I got: Gabbert, Goodson, 2nd in 2012

 

[King of the Jungle]

Gave: Leg Blount, 1.06

Got: 1.01

 

[eakfootball]

Gave: Leg Blount, 1.06Got: 1.01

Now that the 1.6 is garbage I like that for you. Before the two injurys I would have stayed put.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Gave: Leg Blount, 1.06Got: 1.01

Now that the 1.6 is garbage I like that for you. Before the two injurys I would have stayed put.

I feel the same - injuries have killed that pick.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Gave: Cutler, Ben Tate (does not own foster), McGahee (owns moreno)

Got: Big Ben, 2012 1st (he is most likely a bottom 2 team)

 

[cdwood]

In 12 team PPR, traded Matt Cassel for 2012 2nd round pick.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Chris Johnson just got traded. Would love to hear thoughts on this one. I have some strong ones of my own.

CJ + 2.07

for

T.Choice

Hightower

Kolb

M.Williams (TB)

Guy upgraded (?) from Cassel to Kolb. Choice is insurance for Felix.

 

[Dragon1952]

My wife and I are in a combined 20 or so leagues. I've seen some real low ball offers for Chris Johnson lately....I mean worse than that. Not sure I'd trust Choice to backup Felix either.

 

[eakfootball]

Chris Johnson just got traded. Would love to hear thoughts on this one. I have some strong ones of my own.CJ + 2.07forT.ChoiceHightowerKolbM.Williams (TB)Guy upgraded (?) from Cassel to Kolb. Choice is insurance for Felix.

Should be vetoed, or at least get that owner out of the league.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Chris Johnson just got traded. Would love to hear thoughts on this one. I have some strong ones of my own.CJ + 2.07forT.ChoiceHightowerKolbM.Williams (TB)Guy upgraded (?) from Cassel to Kolb. Choice is insurance for Felix.

Should be vetoed, or at least get that owner out of the league.

It cant be vetoed. It is not bad enough to be vetoed. But it is definitely bad. Bad for the league too.

 

[Riffraff]

14 team league. I'm not involved in any of them.

Team A gets Flacco, Joe BAL QB;Royal, Eddie DEN WR

Team B gets Young, Vince PHI QB;Cobb, Randall GBP WR

Team A needed another QB pretty bad. Team B is the Vick owner and has 4 starting QBs.

Team C gets Ward, Hines PIT WR

Team D gets 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick

One guy needed a depth player, which can be hard to find in a 14 team league. The other got a draft pick and can keep another of his hopefuls. Roster limit cuts due soon.

Team E gets Bush, Michael OAK RB;Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB

Team F gets Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB

This one might get some comments about Quantity vs Quality.

My note though: MBush is not as young as people think he is. Can't be a trade darling forever.

 

[King of the Jungle]

14 team league. I'm not involved in any of them.

Team A gets Flacco, Joe BAL QB;Royal, Eddie DEN WR

Team B gets Young, Vince PHI QB;Cobb, Randall GBP WR

Team A needed another QB pretty bad. Team B is the Vick owner and has 4 starting QBs.

Team C gets Ward, Hines PIT WR

Team D gets 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick

One guy needed a depth player, which can be hard to find in a 14 team league. The other got a draft pick and can keep another of his hopefuls. Roster limit cuts due soon.



Team E gets Bush, Michael OAK RB;Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB

Team F gets Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB

This one might get some comments about Quantity vs Quality.

My note though: MBush is not as young as people think he is. Can't be a trade darling forever.

Unless that is a McFadden owner it doesn't make much sense. I am not a huge Blount fan however even if I owned DMC I would consider that an overpay.

 

[jonboltz]

14 team league. I'm not involved in any of them.

Team A gets Flacco, Joe BAL QB;Royal, Eddie DEN WR

Team B gets Young, Vince PHI QB;Cobb, Randall GBP WR

Team A needed another QB pretty bad. Team B is the Vick owner and has 4 starting QBs.

Team C gets Ward, Hines PIT WR

Team D gets 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick

One guy needed a depth player, which can be hard to find in a 14 team league. The other got a draft pick and can keep another of his hopefuls. Roster limit cuts due soon.



Team E gets Bush, Michael OAK RB;Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB

Team F gets Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB

This one might get some comments about Quantity vs Quality.

My note though: MBush is not as young as people think he is. Can't be a trade darling forever.

Unless that is a McFadden owner it doesn't make much sense. I am not a huge Blount fan however even if I owned DMC I would consider that an overpay.

Perfectly fine trade. In a recently completed dynasty start-up:5.06 Blount

6.12 Lynch

9.09 Bush

Little bit of a loss for the one giving up Blount, but not a big deal.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Chris Johnson just got traded. Would love to hear thoughts on this one. I have some strong ones of my own.CJ + 2.07forT.ChoiceHightowerKolbM.Williams (TB)Guy upgraded (?) from Cassel to Kolb. Choice is insurance for Felix.

Should be vetoed, or at least get that owner out of the league.

It cant be vetoed. It is not bad enough to be vetoed. But it is definitely bad. Bad for the league too.

It's certainly a very bad panic trade, but its far from vetoable. The guy did at least get some major talent with Tamp Bay Mike and while Hightower is likely not a long term option (although we've said that every year about him) it's looking like 2011 can be a very productive year for him in that offense.Kevin Kolb is a wildcard, but he certainly has his supporters and I'd personally feel better starting Kolb over Cassell - although its no guarantee to be a big upgrade (or an upgrade at all for that matter).To be completely honest I'm trying to get CJ right now for a relatively reduced price (yet still throwing some talent to my trade partner). Some teams are just risk averse and Johnson certainly has risk right now.

 

[Colts Win]

Team a gave Frank gore , branding Lloyd.

Team b gave Mike thomas, lee Evans,hightower, beanie wells, 3.7 rookie.

Team a gave Steve Johnson, Fred Jackson

Team b gave Ryan mathews, nanee legadue.

Same team a in both deals different team b

 

[Dragon1952]

My wife was offered

Daniel Thomas, Johnny Knox and Earl Bennett for

Tim Hightower

She was pretty fat at RB anyway and weak depth-wise at WR behind the Johnson's, AJ and CJ (had Britt too but ??? on his situation)

I know Hightower has been getting the praise lately but not sure if one could trust any RB in that particular situation.

The offering team did have Helu and since they were facing roster cut-downs was looking at having to cut a player anyway.

She did accept.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Tom Brady

Lee evans

For

Aaron Rodgers

$200 blind bidding dollars (each team starts with $1000)

 

[jeter23]

14 team PPR

Developmental league, so picks are watered down

Gave: Flacco

Got: Sanders/2013 1st

 

[eakfootball]

Tom BradyLee evansForAaron Rodgers$200 blind bidding dollars (each team starts with $1000)

Rodgers side by a mile.

 

[eakfootball]

The first page of this thread is pretty funny.

 

[Dez]

10 team NON PPR league

Tennessee gave up:

Grant, Ryan GBP RB

Montana gave up:

Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.02

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.02

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Montana

Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Montana

Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Montana

 

[Dez]

10 team NON PPR league

Charleston gave up:

Starks, James GBP RB

Tennessee gave up:

Collie, Austin IND WR

 

[Dez]

10 team NON PPR league

Charleston gave up:

Garrard, David JAC QB

Hasselbeck, Matt TEN QB

Caldwell, Andre CIN WR

Gaffney, Jabar WAS WR

Welker, Wes NEP WR

Williams, Mario HOU LB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 6.10

Huntington gave up:

Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.04

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Huntington

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Huntington

 

[FUBAR]

10 team NON PPR league

Tennessee gave up:

Grant, Ryan GBP RB

Montana gave up:

Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.02

Year 2011 Draft Pick 3.02

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Montana

Year 2014 Round 2 Draft Pick from Montana

Year 2014 Round 3 Draft Pick from Montana

10 team NON PPR league

Charleston gave up:

Garrard, David JAC QB

Hasselbeck, Matt TEN QB

Caldwell, Andre CIN WR

Gaffney, Jabar WAS WR

Welker, Wes NEP WR

Williams, Mario HOU LB

Year 2011 Draft Pick 6.10

Huntington gave up:

Year 2011 Draft Pick 2.05

Year 2011 Draft Pick 4.04

Year 2012 Round 2 Draft Pick from Huntington

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Huntington

Guys in your league really like 2nd round picks. In an IDP league, I agree that they have value but this seems that they're overvalued.

 

[Dez]

Guys in your league really like 2nd round picks. In an IDP league, I agree that they have value but this seems that they're overvalued.

Players I have drafted myself in the 2nd round or later in this league almost my entire current starting line up right now.Rivers

Bradford

Foster

Charles

Gore

A-Bradshaw

V-Jackson

B-Marshall

A-Hernandez

just to name a few and those were all me.

Now we add what other players went like Mike Williams TB, Jimmy Graham, Stafford, Felix Jones just to name a few

I don't think 2nd and 3rd round picks are over-rated at all.

 

[JPeso]

Guys in your league really like 2nd round picks. In an IDP league, I agree that they have value but this seems that they're overvalued.

Players I have drafted myself in the 2nd round or later in this league almost my entire current starting line up right now.Rivers

Bradford

Foster

Charles

Gore

A-Bradshaw

V-Jackson

B-Marshall

A-Hernandez

just to name a few and those were all me.

Now we add what other players went like Mike Williams TB, Jimmy Graham, Stafford, Felix Jones just to name a few

I don't think 2nd and 3rd round picks are over-rated at all.

ZOMG you are the greatest!

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Gave:

Joseph Addai

Delone Carter

Beanie Wells

2013 3rd

Got:

Mark Ingram

Willis McGahee

2012 4th

2012 5th

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Tom Brady

For

Michael turner

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Ronnie brown

Andre Roberts

For

2013 2nd rounder

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Mark Sanchez

For

2012 2nd rounder

 

[Onions]

14-team PPR

Gave: Chad Ochocinco + 2012 1st rounder (Should be 11-14th pick overall)

Received: Sidney Rice

 

[Colts Win]

Standard ppr dynasty

Team A gave

Josh Freeman

Rookie pick 2.7

Team B gave

Kyle Orten

Arrelious Benn

 

[Tau837]

10 team super flex, non PPR. I am not involved in this trade:

Team A gave up:

Orton, Kyle DEN QB

Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB

Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def

Team B gave up:

Dalton, Andy CIN QB

Johnson, Chris TEN RB

Graham, Jimmy NOS TE

IMO this is one of the worst trades I've ever seen.

 

[Instinctive]

10 team super flex, non PPR. I am not involved in this trade:Team A gave up:Orton, Kyle DEN QBJacobs, Brandon NYG RBSteelers, Pittsburgh PIT DefTeam B gave upalton, Andy CIN QBJohnson, Chris TEN RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TEIMO this is one of the worst trades I've ever seen.

I know, I can't believe he got Jacobs that cheap.

 

[Mimo]

10 team super flex, non PPR. I am not involved in this trade:Team A gave up:Orton, Kyle DEN QBJacobs, Brandon NYG RBSteelers, Pittsburgh PIT DefTeam B gave upalton, Andy CIN QBJohnson, Chris TEN RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TEIMO this is one of the worst trades I've ever seen.

Yeah, that's bad. I would need to hear an explanation on this one.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

10 team super flex, non PPR. I am not involved in this trade:Team A gave up:Orton, Kyle DEN QBJacobs, Brandon NYG RBSteelers, Pittsburgh PIT DefTeam B gave upalton, Andy CIN QBJohnson, Chris TEN RBGraham, Jimmy NOS TEIMO this is one of the worst trades I've ever seen.

Chris Johnson is being stolen right now in a lot of leagues. I dont get it. Still easily a top 3 pick.