Yellow Line is Unoffcial
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2011 offseason dynasty trades (4 Viewers)
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Nice one for your side.12 team PPR start 1 QB 2RB 2WR 1 TE 2 Flex (RB,WR,TE)I gave up:Carson PalmerI gotarnario AlexanderRookie 3.11
RaiderBones
Footballguy
12 Team Non-PPR
I gave:
Rookie pick 3.05
Patrick Cobbs RB MIA
I recieved:
Randy Moss WR TEN
I gave:
Rookie pick 3.05
Patrick Cobbs RB MIA
I recieved:
Randy Moss WR TEN
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
ebcpastor2004
Footballguy
I'm back with another (hope I don't get blasted again like the Starks trade). Again, Zealots 53 man roster, full IDP, non PPR
I gave:
Manningham, Mario NYG WR
Year 2011 Round 1.11
Year 2011 Round 2.11
and a 2012 4th rd
I got:
Larry Fitzgerald
This has me starting Calvin, Fitz, & Dez (most likely). This team is a rebuild I picked up two years ago & it's shaping up nicely.
I gave:
Manningham, Mario NYG WR
Year 2011 Round 1.11
Year 2011 Round 2.11
and a 2012 4th rd
I got:
Larry Fitzgerald
This has me starting Calvin, Fitz, & Dez (most likely). This team is a rebuild I picked up two years ago & it's shaping up nicely.
Whoever gave up fitz for that trash is a moron.
Queso Viejo
Footballguy
I don't know what to think about trades like this, especially when I compare them to offers I make that are quickly shot down. I just offered the Fitz owner in my league (starting RB's are Shonn Greene and Felix Jones) his choice of Steven Jackson or Ahmad Bradshaw, plus Johnny Knox, and the 1.12 for Fitzgerald and was told to stick it. Not sure how this is any better. Steven Jackson or Bradshaw >1.11/2.11 and Knox=Manningham.Good for you to be getting such great deals. I wish I could come across one likes this every once in a while!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
How does anyone feel good about trading away a top 5 WR and getting back practically nothing. Manningham has some uspide but most of his production came when Smith and Nicks were out with inuries and those picks are long shots. Wow, just wow.
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
I had to give two 1sts and Britt for Fitz, this was back during the season, I still feel good about it.
You got screwed!12 team PPR start 1 QB 2RB 2WR 1 TE 2 Flex (RB,WR,TE)I gave up:Carson PalmerI got
Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
Are you kidding me, What do you think a backup fantasy QB is worth? I got a young upside WR prospect and a pick. Back up QBs are a dime a dozen.You got screwed!12 team PPR start 1 QB 2RB 2WR 1 TE 2 Flex (RB,WR,TE)I gave up:Carson PalmerI got
crnerblitz
Footballguy
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lynx4ben
Footballguy
Are you kidding me, What do you think a backup fantasy QB is worth? I got a young upside WR prospect and a pick. Back up QBs are a dime a dozen.You got screwed!12 team PPR start 1 QB 2RB 2WR 1 TE 2 Flex (RB,WR,TE)I gave up:Carson PalmerI got
loose circuits
Footballguy
not sure about this one, but it just went down in my league:
H gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;McCoy, LeSean PHI RB
N gave up Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB;Bryant, Dez DAL WR;1.01 and 1.05
H gave up Johnson, Chris TEN RB;McCoy, LeSean PHI RB
N gave up Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB;Bryant, Dez DAL WR;1.01 and 1.05
Cassius
Footballguy
Yeah I think most will disagree. Dez Bryant + 1.01 is not enough for CJ3 (nevermind Moreno), and 1.05 is not nearly enough for McCoy.
I take the Dez side easily.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
Unless the rest of team is nonexistent, I want McCoy and CJ. They could arguably be the top 2 dynasty rb'sloose circuits said:
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I think you are forgetting about Moreno in this analysis.
loose circuits
Footballguy
another one in that league:
E gave up Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB;Edwards, Braylon NYJ WR;Thomas, Mike JAC WR
M gave up Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB;Price, Taylor NEP WR; 3.12
E gave up Blount, LeGarrette TBB RB;Edwards, Braylon NYJ WR;Thomas, Mike JAC WR
M gave up Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB;Price, Taylor NEP WR; 3.12
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
M got destroyed
loose circuits
Footballguy
depends on status of MJD's knee
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
I am not really wild about what Team M got either way. A bunch of fringe players IMO
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team A Gave: Phillip Rivers
Team B Gave: 1.04, 1.05
The catch is this league drafts rookies before the actual NFL draft
Team A Gave: Phillip Rivers
Team B Gave: 1.04, 1.05
The catch is this league drafts rookies before the actual NFL draft
loose circuits
Footballguy
same M team:
N gave up:
Camarillo, Greg MIN WR
Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR
Thomas, Dave NOS TE
1.09
1.12
2.12
M gave up:
Colston, Marques NOS WR
Clark, Dallas IND TE
seems like he's getting ripped off today
N gave up:
Camarillo, Greg MIN WR
Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR
Thomas, Dave NOS TE
1.09
1.12
2.12
M gave up:
Colston, Marques NOS WR
Clark, Dallas IND TE
seems like he's getting ripped off today
Eastwood
Footballguy
ooof. That make my bottom hurt just looking at it. Hope M got a nice dinner at least.
Prussian
Footballguy
Dynasty PPR
A - gave up Turner, Michael ATL RB;Heyward-Bey, Darrius OAK WR; 1.10
B - gave up Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB;Thomas, Pierre NOS RB;Breaston, Steve ARI WR; 1.06
Team A has trying to cuff Ivory and picks 1.02 and 1.09 to go with the upgraded pick.
Team B needed a "stud" RB.
A - gave up Turner, Michael ATL RB;Heyward-Bey, Darrius OAK WR; 1.10
B - gave up Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB;Thomas, Pierre NOS RB;Breaston, Steve ARI WR; 1.06
Team A has trying to cuff Ivory and picks 1.02 and 1.09 to go with the upgraded pick.
Team B needed a "stud" RB.
Prussian
Footballguy
M has given up quite a few solid players for tier two or worse guys in these two deals, sans Blunt's potential. Is his remaining roster equally staffed and he is trying to get younger? Even so, 1.09 and 1.12 has no guarantee to be a roster player.
Prussian
Footballguy
If team A is deep at QB, this could be a good rebuilding deal. Although the 1.05 could be a reach since I am not convinced there will be a starter beyond the top four likely picks this year. Otherwise, I would have made sure at least a tier two QB came back in the offer.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
I gave up 1.5, 3.5
Got Josh Freeman
Taking over a team...my starting QB was Tebow...lol.
Got Josh Freeman
Taking over a team...my starting QB was Tebow...lol.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Well done.
ThreeThousand
Footballguy
I was the other side of this trade - I had Romo/Bradford/Freeman in a start 1 QB league, but scraps at RB (DeAngelo Williams and Addai are the only viable RBs on my roster). I'm thinking the 1.5 will be the last impact rookie in the draft, either LeShoure or Williams. This was a win/win for both of us.Andy Dufresne said:
Yeah seems pretty fair to me.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It'll likely be Williams, but if you feel that he's worth Josh Freeman then you also did just fine.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
I agree totally man, if we were in different shoes I woulda done it on your side too.
healthpellets
Footballguy
Ppr
Team A got: colston / 2011 1.12 / 2011 3.1
Team B got: 1.7 / 1.9 / 2.9 all 2011 picks
Team A got: colston / 2011 1.12 / 2011 3.1
Team B got: 1.7 / 1.9 / 2.9 all 2011 picks
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Meh, CJ3 and McCoy are top 5 dynasty players. Between Dez, 1.01, 1.05, and Moreno I would say there's a 50/50 chance of ONE of those guys ending up being a top 5 dynasty player.Basically, you need 2 out of 4 to end up being total studs just to break out even, and I would say that 2 out of 4 is far from likely in this fickle world of fantasy football.
One side is giving up 4 players (pretty good ones), the other 2. The 4 do not have to contain 2 players equal in stature (i.e., top 5) to the 2 to merely break even as you suggest. Value does not solely reside in which side has more top 5 players. If the 4 did end up with 2 top 5 players, this would be a ridiculous win for the 4 side. Also, going with your assumption that both CJ3 and McCoy are top 5 today, one or both may not be considered as such next year. It happens every year (like you said, the fantasy football world is fickle). If one drops out (more likely than not) and one of the 4 make it in (which you put the odds at 50/50), again, this would be a ridiculous win for the 4 side.The value in it for the CJ3/McCoy side is the win-now value. It is unlikely that the 4 can match the 2 in a redraft context.
Cassius
Footballguy
The point is the side giving CJ3 and McCoy are giving elite players and getting back a bunch of maybes. Whether or not the elite players will be considered elite players next year (and really, they probably will be because people believing that they will retain that value is a big part of why they're considered elite in the first place) doesn't change that fact. It's a pretty severe sell low.
DevilDog919
Footballguy
PPR
Team A gave:
Pierre Garcon
Percy Harvin
TB Mike Williams
2011 future 1st
Team B gave:
Larry Fitzgerald
Michael Crabtree
2011 future 3rd
Team A gave:
Pierre Garcon
Percy Harvin
TB Mike Williams
2011 future 1st
Team B gave:
Larry Fitzgerald
Michael Crabtree
2011 future 3rd
Eastwood
Footballguy
Team A burned down Team B's village.PPRTeam A gaveierre GarconPercy HarvinTB Mike Williams 2011 future 1stTeam B gave:Larry FitzgeraldMichael Crabtree2011 future 3rd
Disagree here. Harvin and MWill are core dynasty players. Fitz is too of course, but I think this one comes down to where these picks slot. Shouldn't that already be determined if they are 2011s?Team A burned down Team B's village.PPRTeam A gave
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
But so is Crabtree. Harvin, Williams, and Crabtree are all worth about the same. I checked F&L and he's got them #16, 17, and 18. If you count Crabtree for Williams as an even swap, basically is Harvin, Garcon, and a 1st worth Fitzgerald? It would have to be a top 3 pick for it to be even close.Disagree here. Harvin and MWill are core dynasty players. Fitz is too of course, but I think this one comes down to where these picks slot. Shouldn't that already be determined if they are 2011s?Team A burned down Team B's village.PPRTeam A gave
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