*** 2012 Official Philadelphia Eagles Post Mortem Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[jasvic]

For the sake of discussion, lets just assume they won't take a LBer round 1...should they go get a guy like Mark Barron?

Best safety available. I'd be for it. It all depends on how high they rate Jarrett going into the draft. In all likelyhood, they're going to draft a DL. I just hope they get it right for a change.

Was Jarret supposed to be the FS or SS?

Supposed to be FS since they have had Allen as the SS. But I would imagine its all up in the air since neither proved anything last year. One due to injury, the other due to inability thus far.

Allen is FS and Jarret is SS in all the links I have. Everything from pre-season last year pegged Jarret is a "hard hitting SS" as well

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/depthchart.php#phi

http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/depth_chart_rosters_1.html

http://dev.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/nfl.aspx

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/phi/formation/4-3-defense

See now thats what I thought but then the Eagles have Allen listed as a SS on the website. So who knows?

I know in Johnson's scheme the safeties were interchangeable, don't know if that's carried over to Castillo.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I am surprised there is all this talk in here about drafting kuechly. Maybe it's just me, but I can't see them taking him or any LB at 15. It's just not their way of thinking. Can't imagine them at this point going back on their belief that LBs aren't that valuable. Sure it may have been obvious to most that LB was their biggest need this past season, but since when does that have an impact on their course of action? At this point any prediction of where they'll go with their pick, is pretty much a guess. Wouldn't be surprised to see them move up or down though.

We've actually said that in almost every post about Kuechly. We hope he's taken but are aware of the history of the Eagles to NEVER draft LBs in the first round.

I'm mainly discussing it because sooner or later they HAVE to pick one and this year (IMO) there's more of a need then ever before. A man can hope anyway, right?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Burfict is a huge headcase. I think he'd be a terrible fit here as a personality (probably great as a player). he needs a guy like Ray Lewis as a mentor. I won't be at all surprised when he slips to the late 2nd or 3rd round. Just too much of a wildcard, takes too many dumb penalties and personal fouls, doesn't play in his system. Jeez, he got benched for most of his bowl game Just a laundry list of issues with the guy. But he is a stud when his head is on straight

I dont know much about any of the issues he has. I heard is name and then when I watched him play he just looked amazing. If he is a headcase then there's no shot he's here anyway.

Hey but on the plus side if he falls far enough (late 2?, 3rd round for sure). Andy will think he's stealing him and draft him. Even better if he gets hurt

For the sake of discussion, lets just assume they won't take a LBer round 1...should they go get a guy like Mark Barron?

I don't see how they could after investing 2 early picks on Safety the last 2 years. I think the 1st round is a lineman of some sort. Looks to me like another "trade back" year for Philly IMO

I only mentioned it because as far as the D goes Saftey and Lber are our only REAL needs/ concerns. I understand they took Allen and Jarrett and they havent really showed much so I'm wondering if they go with a more talented guy at that spot.

With the rookie wage scale and a ton of picks I can't see why a team like ours would not target a guy and just go get him.

 

[Insein]

The Rookie Wage Scale is tailor made for a team like the Eagles. They would always hold back on getting high end draft picks at certain positions for fear of overspending in an area they didn't want to. Now they don't have that worry and can maintain a decent cap number for a top draft pick. So no real excuse to not take a Safety or LB in the first round.

 

[Shane Falco]

For the sake of discussion, lets just assume they won't take a LBer round 1...should they go get a guy like Mark Barron?

Best safety available. I'd be for it. It all depends on how high they rate Jarrett going into the draft. In all likelyhood, they're going to draft a DL. I just hope they get it right for a change.

Was Jarret supposed to be the FS or SS?

Supposed to be FS since they have had Allen as the SS. But I would imagine its all up in the air since neither proved anything last year. One due to injury, the other due to inability thus far.

Allen is FS and Jarret is SS in all the links I have. Everything from pre-season last year pegged Jarret is a "hard hitting SS" as well

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/depthchart.php#phi

http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/depth_chart_rosters_1.html

http://dev.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/nfl.aspx

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/phi/formation/4-3-defense

See now thats what I thought but then the Eagles have Allen listed as a SS on the website. So who knows?

The 2nd link is from the Eagles website. But their roster list does have him as a SS. Jarrett is just an "S"http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/roster.html

 

[Insein]

For the sake of discussion, lets just assume they won't take a LBer round 1...should they go get a guy like Mark Barron?

Best safety available. I'd be for it. It all depends on how high they rate Jarrett going into the draft. In all likelyhood, they're going to draft a DL. I just hope they get it right for a change.

Was Jarret supposed to be the FS or SS?

Supposed to be FS since they have had Allen as the SS. But I would imagine its all up in the air since neither proved anything last year. One due to injury, the other due to inability thus far.

Allen is FS and Jarret is SS in all the links I have. Everything from pre-season last year pegged Jarret is a "hard hitting SS" as well

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/depthchart.php#phi

http://legacy.philadelphiaeagles.com/eagles_files/html/depth_chart_rosters_1.html

http://dev.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/nfl.aspx

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/phi/formation/4-3-defense

See now thats what I thought but then the Eagles have Allen listed as a SS on the website. So who knows?

The 2nd link is from the Eagles website. But their roster list does have him as a SS. Jarrett is just an "S"http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/roster.html

Exactly. I swore JJ was a SS but then I went to the PE website and there it is. Don't think thats right though.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Either way...with Jarrett being so inactive last season are we really at the point where we CAN'T draft a guy at that position in the first round? Did Jarrett show ANY promise at all?

 

[Shane Falco]

Either way...with Jarrett being so inactive last season are we really at the point where we CAN'T draft a guy at that position in the first round? Did Jarrett show ANY promise at all?

considering how little they cared about the safety position heading into last season, I doubt they will feel the need to address it again in an early round.So the draft theory will look like this (for the 1st three rounds)QB- not a needRB- not a needWR- not a need TE- Not a needOL- Can never have enoughDL- can never have enoughLB- Can be addressed in the 4th or 5th roundCB- not a need unless Asante leavesS- not a need

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So the draft theory will look like this (for the 1st three rounds)QB- not a needRB- not a needWR- not a need TE- Not a needOL- Can never have enoughDL- can never have enoughLB- Can be addressed in the 4th or 5th roundCB- not a need unless Asante leavesS- not a need

I'm not aware of Herramn's contract status but I could see a replacemnt in order for him soon, but I just don't see it being in round 1. The OL had many question marks coming into the season but if the bring back Mathis it may be one of the better ones in the league.I could see a pass rushing DT of some sort but the DL just doesnt seem like a big need to me and again it just doesnt feel like they'll go this way in the first round. I could see (and understand) the 2 second round picks being DL and OL though...I'd actually be more inclined to see a WR in round 1 if Jackson goes then an offensive or defensive lineman. Of course we'll have a much clearer picture after FA starts (3/3/12, right?) but this wouldnt shock me.I know we typically don't value the LBer spot or even the safeties it seems, but has there ever been a bigger need the now? Assuming they dont grab a LBer in FA or by trade they almost have to go get the one they like the best no matter what IMO.***ETA*** If we trade back this year, I will be very upset. It just wouldnt make sense.

 

[unckeyherb]

***ETA*** If we trade back this year, I will be very upset. It just wouldnt make sense.

With Reid and Co. on the hot-seat, I can't see them trading down this year. Unless you argue that he's a lame duck and Roseman will be looking to the future. Goes against what Lurie said in his presser, but it probably wouldn't surprise many too much. In the end, I am very optimistic about this draft coming up.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So the draft theory will look like this (for the 1st three rounds)QB- not a needRB- not a needWR- not a need TE- Not a needOL- Can never have enoughDL- can never have enoughLB- Can be addressed in the 4th or 5th roundCB- not a need unless Asante leavesS- not a need

I'm not aware of Herramn's contract status but I could see a replacemnt in order for him soon, but I just don't see it being in round 1. The OL had many question marks coming into the season but if the bring back Mathis it may be one of the better ones in the league.I could see a pass rushing DT of some sort but the DL just doesnt seem like a big need to me and again it just doesnt feel like they'll go this way in the first round. I could see (and understand) the 2 second round picks being DL and OL though...I'd actually be more inclined to see a WR in round 1 if Jackson goes then an offensive or defensive lineman. Of course we'll have a much clearer picture after FA starts (3/3/12, right?) but this wouldnt shock me.I know we typically don't value the LBer spot or even the safeties it seems, but has there ever been a bigger need the now? Assuming they dont grab a LBer in FA or by trade they almost have to go get the one they like the best no matter what IMO.***ETA*** If we trade back this year, I will be very upset. It just wouldnt make sense.

OL:King Dunlap free agentEvan Mathis free agentTodd Herremans signed until 2013Winston Justice signed until 2013Jamal Jackson signed until 2013Jason Kelce signed until 2014Danny Watkins signed until 2014Jason Peters signed until 2014Justin Vandervelde signed until 2014So everyone important (except Mathis) is signed for at least the next two seasons.ETA: You can find the Eagles contract info at www.eaglescap.com

 

[Bigboy10182000]

***ETA*** If we trade back this year, I will be very upset. It just wouldnt make sense.

With Reid and Co. on the hot-seat, I can't see them trading down this year. Unless you argue that he's a lame duck and Roseman will be looking to the future. Goes against what Lurie said in his presser, but it probably wouldn't surprise many too much. In the end, I am very optimistic about this draft coming up.

I'm also of the belief that even a guy like Roseman has to be feeling the heat and can't afford to trade down either. Maybe I'm being to optomistic but I think we'll make a major jump in the draft this year and get an impact player at a need postition.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

OL:King Dunlap free agentEvan Mathis free agentTodd Herremans signed until 2013Winston Justice signed until 2013Jamal Jackson signed until 2013Jason Kelce signed until 2014Danny Watkins signed until 2014Jason Peters signed until 2014Justin Vandervelde signed until 2014So everyone important (except Mathis) is signed for at least the next two seasons.

This is why I think we'll pick OL, but in the 2nd or 3rd round. If there's any year the stars alligned for us to pick a position of need and one not typical with our past it's this year IMO

 

[dhockster]

Either way...with Jarrett being so inactive last season are we really at the point where we CAN'T draft a guy at that position in the first round? Did Jarrett show ANY promise at all?

considering how little they cared about the safety position heading into last season, I doubt they will feel the need to address it again in an early round.So the draft theory will look like this (for the 1st three rounds)QB- not a needRB- not a needWR- not a need TE- Not a needOL- Can never have enoughDL- can never have enoughLB- Can be addressed in the 4th or 5th roundCB- not a need unless Asante leavesS- not a need

I think WR is a need if Desean leaves. I assume you are saying LB can be addressed in the 4th or 5th round because that is how you think the Eagles are viewing the draft, not how you view the draft. If not, I think LB is definitely a need that needs to be addressed in the first 3 rounds.

 

[Shane Falco]

Either way...with Jarrett being so inactive last season are we really at the point where we CAN'T draft a guy at that position in the first round? Did Jarrett show ANY promise at all?

considering how little they cared about the safety position heading into last season, I doubt they will feel the need to address it again in an early round.So the draft theory will look like this (for the 1st three rounds)QB- not a needRB- not a needWR- not a need TE- Not a needOL- Can never have enoughDL- can never have enoughLB- Can be addressed in the 4th or 5th roundCB- not a need unless Asante leavesS- not a need

I think WR is a need if Desean leaves. I assume you are saying LB can be addressed in the 4th or 5th round because that is how you think the Eagles are viewing the draft, not how you view the draft. If not, I think LB is definitely a need that needs to be addressed in the first 3 rounds.

correctIf it was me I'd take 2 LBs and a WR in the first 3 rounds

 

[Insein]

Either way...with Jarrett being so inactive last season are we really at the point where we CAN'T draft a guy at that position in the first round? Did Jarrett show ANY promise at all?

considering how little they cared about the safety position heading into last season, I doubt they will feel the need to address it again in an early round.So the draft theory will look like this (for the 1st three rounds)QB- not a needRB- not a needWR- not a need TE- Not a needOL- Can never have enoughDL- can never have enoughLB- Can be addressed in the 4th or 5th roundCB- not a need unless Asante leavesS- not a need

I think WR is a need if Desean leaves. I assume you are saying LB can be addressed in the 4th or 5th round because that is how you think the Eagles are viewing the draft, not how you view the draft. If not, I think LB is definitely a need that needs to be addressed in the first 3 rounds.

correctIf it was me I'd take 2 LBs and a WR in the first 3 rounds

They have gone that route in the past. When they wanted to overhaul the secondary, they drafted 3 in the first 2 rounds way back when. MAybe they shock us all and take 2 LBs in the first 2 rounds.

 

[CentralPA]

Oh boy...

 

[Shane Falco]

Oh boy...

not exactly a replacement for DJax and pretty much the same as Avant.

 

[Awful Waffle]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I wouldnt want him if he played for free. He's nothing but a name.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I wouldnt want him if he played for free. He's nothing but a name.

Simply put, he can do things that no player currently on the birds roster can. He would def be an asset in the red zone

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I wouldnt want him if he played for free. He's nothing but a name.

Simply put, he can do things that no player currently on the birds roster can. He would def be an asset in the red zone

We've had "big" WR's in the past and that didn't matter then. We don't run fades or force the ball down there, he would be worthless.

 

[CentralPA]

I'd rather sign Dwayne Bowe. He's younger and can do the samethings Plax can.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I'd rather sign Dwayne Bowe. He's younger and can do the samethings Plax can.

Assuming we let Djax walk...what are the chances we end up with Bowe? Wouldnt KC also franshise him?

 

[Bronx Bomber]

What do you guys think of Kafka? Is he your long-term backup to Vick or do they bring in someone to fill that role?

 

[jasvic]

What do you guys think of Kafka? Is he your long-term backup to Vick or do they bring in someone to fill that role?

They've already worked out Trent Edwards a couple of times if that's any indication.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

What do you guys think of Kafka? Is he your long-term backup to Vick or do they bring in someone to fill that role?

They've already worked out Trent Edwards a couple of times if that's any indication.

FWIW, I actually took that as more of an indication that Young is gone...

 

[Insein]

What do you guys think of Kafka? Is he your long-term backup to Vick or do they bring in someone to fill that role?

I think Kafka can and will be the backup for Vick this year. They may draft a QB in the mid rounds to be the 3rd string. Kafka has steadily improved since he's been drafted. I don't think he'll be a starter in the league but he can be a solid backup. He'll come in for 2 or 3 games when vick goes down and keep things afloat. That's about all we could expect from VY or Trent Edwards so why pay extra money when the guy on the roster can probably do the same thing and already knows the playbook.

 

[Jason Wood]

I think Andy is one of those guys (and there are lots of them -- even our own Sigmund Bloom ), who believes in drafting a QB as frequently as you can, just to keep getting looks at potential upgrades at backup.

While I hope Kafka is the answer, I certainly don't think his pedigree or performance thus far precludes them from seeking out alternatives, particularly in the mid-rounds of this draft.

 

[jasvic]

What do you guys think of Kafka? Is he your long-term backup to Vick or do they bring in someone to fill that role?

They've already worked out Trent Edwards a couple of times if that's any indication.

FWIW, I actually took that as more of an indication that Young is gone...

Right, but I would think if they were comfortable with Kafka as the backup, they'd look for a draft pick to fill the #3 spot, not a veteran. I think if they sign Edwards it's to backup Vick, unless he stinks it up in camp.

 

[vinwinephans]

What do you guys think of Kafka? Is he your long-term backup to Vick or do they bring in someone to fill that role?

They've already worked out Trent Edwards a couple of times if that's any indication.

FWIW, I actually took that as more of an indication that Young is gone...

Right, but I would think if they were comfortable with Kafka as the backup, they'd look for a draft pick to fill the #3 spot, not a veteran. I think if they sign Edwards it's to backup Vick, unless he stinks it up in camp.

Did Edwards even have a job last year? I think if he comes in it is to try out for #3; a chance to learn an offense under a 'good' QB coach and possibly save his career. The eagles can sign Edwards, still draft someone and use camp to determine who #3 actually is.

 

[SouthJersey]

I think Andy is one of those guys (and there are lots of them -- even our own Sigmund Bloom ), who believes in drafting a QB as frequently as you can, just to keep getting looks at potential upgrades at backup.While I hope Kafka is the answer, I certainly don't think his pedigree or performance thus far precludes them from seeking out alternatives, particularly in the mid-rounds of this draft.

This sounds about right. Kafka might grow into a servicable backup. But he's not a guy I'd feel comfortable with if Vick is out for an extended period of time. I hope they bring in Edwards as well as draft a kid and see where they're at.

 

[dhockster]

Oh boy...

not exactly a replacement for DJax and pretty much the same as Avant.

Avant is a slot receiver who is a good possession receiver who gets you first downs. Burress is an Outside receiver who specializes in scoringTD's in the red zone. You may not want the Eagles to sign Burress, which is fine, I just am not sure how you can say they are pretty much the same thing as a reason not to sign him.

 

[dhockster]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I wouldnt want him if he played for free. He's nothing but a name.

Simply put, he can do things that no player currently on the birds roster can. He would def be an asset in the red zone

We've had "big" WR's in the past and that didn't matter then. We don't run fades or force the ball down there, he would be worthless.

Are you forgetting TO? What other "big" WR's have we had that had any talent?I not saying the Eagles should sign Burress no matter what because of his age and his other issues, but let's be honest and recognize that he has had success in the NFL as a receiver and catching TD's.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I wouldnt want him if he played for free. He's nothing but a name.

Simply put, he can do things that no player currently on the birds roster can. He would def be an asset in the red zone

We've had "big" WR's in the past and that didn't matter then. We don't run fades or force the ball down there, he would be worthless.

Are you forgetting TO? What other "big" WR's have we had that had any talent?I not saying the Eagles should sign Burress no matter what because of his age and his other issues, but let's be honest and recognize that he has had success in the NFL as a receiver and catching TD's.

Plax isnt even on the same planet as T.O..... T.O. wasnt a one trick poney WR that would ONLY be used in the red-zone. What Plax is and what he brings is worthless here for the reasons I mentioned above.

 

[unckeyherb]

Oh boy...

not exactly a replacement for DJax and pretty much the same as Avant.

Really? He immediately becomes an almost uncoverable asset in the red zone (a situational player we don't have in an area we historically blow goats in). Certainly not a burner replacement for DJax, but Avant? I don't see it. How many times have we seen this offense chew up yards only to fizzle out in the RZ and settle for a FG. Plax, if used correctly in this offense, could add 8-12+ TDs fairly easily I think. I could be way off base, but I'd welcome his skill set to this offense with open arms.ETA: Regarding the 'no fades' offense, I think it is less about game plan and really based on a lack of options to throw to.

 

[Insein]

I think Andy is one of those guys (and there are lots of them -- even our own Sigmund Bloom ), who believes in drafting a QB as frequently as you can, just to keep getting looks at potential upgrades at backup.While I hope Kafka is the answer, I certainly don't think his pedigree or performance thus far precludes them from seeking out alternatives, particularly in the mid-rounds of this draft.

Kakfka will be the 2. I think he's grown to that point at least. Drafting a new guy would be the next 3 with potential to be a backup 3 years down the road.

 

[vinwinephans]

Oh boy...

not exactly a replacement for DJax and pretty much the same as Avant.

Really? He immediately becomes an almost uncoverable asset in the red zone (a situational player we don't have in an area we historically blow goats in). Certainly not a burner replacement for DJax, but Avant? I don't see it. How many times have we seen this offense chew up yards only to fizzle out in the RZ and settle for a FG. Plax, if used correctly in this offense, could add 8-12+ TDs fairly easily I think. I could be way off base, but I'd welcome his skill set to this offense with open arms.ETA: Regarding the 'no fades' offense, I think it is less about game plan and really based on a lack of options to throw to.

I agree. While Plax won't open things up between the 20's like D Jax does, he very much an asset inside the redzone, something we have lacked. Also consider he did what he did last year coming out of prison playing with a disaster at QB. He had some really big games for NYJ last year.

 

[dhockster]

I think he's a good red zone threat. If we can get him for cheap, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

I wouldnt want him if he played for free. He's nothing but a name.

Simply put, he can do things that no player currently on the birds roster can. He would def be an asset in the red zone

We've had "big" WR's in the past and that didn't matter then. We don't run fades or force the ball down there, he would be worthless.

Are you forgetting TO? What other "big" WR's have we had that had any talent?I not saying the Eagles should sign Burress no matter what because of his age and his other issues, but let's be honest and recognize that he has had success in the NFL as a receiver and catching TD's.

Plax isnt even on the same planet as T.O..... T.O. wasnt a one trick poney WR that would ONLY be used in the red-zone. What Plax is and what he brings is worthless here for the reasons I mentioned above.

I wasn't comparing Plax to TO. I was responding to you saying that we have had big WR's before that weren't productive in the red zone. While TO was effective outside the red zone, we also ran plenty of fades to him which resulted in TD's.Plax = Good in the red zoneEagles currently = bad in the red zonePlax on the Eagles = an improvement in red zone offenseEven a slight improvement in red zone offense and the Eagles win the division last year and who knows what else happens.

 

[Insein]

On plax, I don't know how effectively he'll be. He didn't really improve the Jets Red Zone struggles. He's 35 this year and not exactly a workout freak like TO. He's going to breakdown at some point. Why pay for declining returns when you can draft a guy that may be able to grow into something?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

On plax, I don't know how effectively he'll be. He didn't really improve the Jets Red Zone struggles. He's 35 this year and not exactly a workout freak like TO. He's going to breakdown at some point. Why pay for declining returns when you can draft a guy that may be able to grow into something?

That's my take as well. I don't see how it's a slam dunk that he helps in any way. I'd prefer they didn't bother with him at all.

 

[delusional]

Hey now.

I am a eagles fan. Like amused said, not a reid fan. I am around alot of people that wear the green tinted glasses & feel they never do any wrong. So it leads me to be more towards the "doom & gloom" because I am constantly having to point out flaws.The same flaws that are year in year out with no change. I also do point out the surprisingly good things when they happen. It isn't my fault they leave me with so much ammunition of bad. When expectations are high, which the Eagles front office put out themselves, pointing out the bad comes with it. If they were bad, they you look for the positive.

Do I want this team to win? Yes I do. Do I believe it will happen under Reid? No I do not for reasons stated billions of times. Yet the same gameplans ( not just in game but overall by the org ) are still there, not changing. That is what irritates me to no end.

@Jason..you pointed out how you disliked the Kolb drafting. I did also. Difference between us is you accepted it moves like this, i didn't. Alot of people tend to do that, to eventually accept it & move on pushing it on the backburner & trying to justify to themselves a good reasoning for moves like that.

Back to the draft. I see them going DT WR OT ( no order ). Never know though with this draft & whose going to have more "say" involved with who they take

 

[renesauz]

Am I the only one who thinks Cooper will be just fine as a #2?

I mean...I'd like to see a burner taken in the draft to help stretch the field now and then, but I don't want to see a premium pick spent at WR.

(This assumes, of course, that Jackson is gone)

 

[JetMaxx]

Am I the only one who thinks Cooper will be just fine as a #2?I mean...I'd like to see a burner taken in the draft to help stretch the field now and then, but I don't want to see a premium pick spent at WR.(This assumes, of course, that Jackson is gone)

I don't know if he's done anything to make me feel "just fine" about him at #2, but I agree with your concept. LB, S, DL, perhaps OL should be premium picks. Maybe if a WR with special ability slides into the 3rd I'd take a shot....that said I love Blackmon.

 

[delusional]

Am I the only one who thinks Cooper will be just fine as a #2?I mean...I'd like to see a burner taken in the draft to help stretch the field now and then, but I don't want to see a premium pick spent at WR.(This assumes, of course, that Jackson is gone)

Its tough to say because frankly, he hasn't seen the field enough to be a #2. As of right now he is at best a #4, fringe 3. If they take a WR in the first though, Blackmon would be the guy if he is there. I would have no qualms about that one bit because he looks like he is going to be a franchise type WR

 

[Nagle2998]

I am surprised there is all this talk in here about drafting kuechly. Maybe it's just me, but I can't see them taking him or any LB at 15. It's just not their way of thinking. Can't imagine them at this point going back on their belief that LBs aren't that valuable. Sure it may have been obvious to most that LB was their biggest need this past season, but since when does that have an impact on their course of action? At this point any prediction of where they'll go with their pick, is pretty much a guess. Wouldn't be surprised to see them move up or down though.

We've actually said that in almost every post about Kuechly. We hope he's taken but are aware of the history of the Eagles to NEVER draft LBs in the first round.

I didn't watch every Kuechly game and he seems very quick and smart but he doesn't seem to shed blocks the way a stud MLB does. Also Trotter on local radio said Kuechly is a faster version of Casey Matthews but maybe we are both wrong.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

So with all of the reports that he will be franchised I'm guessing we'll be looking to deal him and if we don't get anything we just do what we did with Trotter and cut him at the last minute?

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

So with all of the reports that he will be franchised I'm guessing we'll be looking to deal him and if we don't get anything we just do what we did with Trotter and cut him at the last minute?

Unless he signs the franchise tag. Then you're stuck with a 9.5M WR. Will he be happy with the 9.5M or still be PO'd because he doesn't have a long-term deal.

 

[SouthJersey]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

So with all of the reports that he will be franchised I'm guessing we'll be looking to deal him and if we don't get anything we just do what we did with Trotter and cut him at the last minute?

Unless he signs the franchise tag. Then you're stuck with a 9.5M WR. Will he be happy with the 9.5M or still be PO'd because he doesn't have a long-term deal.

PO'd

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

So with all of the reports that he will be franchised I'm guessing we'll be looking to deal him and if we don't get anything we just do what we did with Trotter and cut him at the last minute?

Unless he signs the franchise tag. Then you're stuck with a 9.5M WR. Will he be happy with the 9.5M or still be PO'd because he doesn't have a long-term deal.

PO'd

Even with like a 9 million dollar raise??? I hate athletes