*** 2012 Official Philadelphia Eagles Post Mortem Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[Bigboy10182000]

Dunlap and Jean-Gilles? Really?

For where they were drafted, yes. I'm not saying they're stars or anything but for a guy like Dunlap to even be in the league speaks to some of the coaching IMO. He wasn't even a starter in college when we drafted him.

 

[Nagle2998]

Dunlap and Jean-Gilles? Really?

If they were first rounder I would say no but Dunlap was a 7th rounder who can spot start and do a decent job what else do you want for a 7th rounder. As for Gilles he also filled in nicely but just wasn't good enough to be a 16 game starter.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Bell seems to have a different view of his value than just about every NFL GM.

I'm curious, seen a few people say this. Is that being reported or is it conjecture? If I were in his position, and several teams showed interest, I'd visit them all, go home and figure out which is best for me. Not rush into it and sign before I left town. Sounds too much like a car salesman insisting you sign before you leave the showroom.

Well none of us have been in the rooms, so certainly conjecture is a part of it. But based on the way things usually go in free agency, it seems a logical conclusion. It would be one thing if he met with one or two teams in back-to-back days and then took a day or two to think about the offers (assuming he gets multiple offers). But he's had meetings with five (six?) teams, many of which are projected to be contenders, and left them all without a deal. Considering he plays a premier position, and some of these teams have a real need, there's clearly a disconnect somewhere.

He's asking for too much money.Me and my buddies had our annual Wrestlemania get-together last night and we talked a bit about the Birds (but not too much out of respect) and he did tell us a few little nuggets:1. He is 95% sure Asante won't be an Eagle after the draft. He believes they have a deal done in principle and it won't be consummated until the draft. Wouldn't tell us who the team is.2. The injury to Peters did nothing to change their draft strategy. He said that if one of the premier OT's fell, that'd make them think a bit, but it sounds that they're going defense in the first. Hold a gun to my head and I'll say they draft Cox if they stay put. That being said, if a certain QB drops, don't be surprised if they draft for the future. Apparently there's a chance that Reid may even try to trade up if he drops to 10 or so.3. In the second, they're not ruling out anything. He thinks that they're going to go BPA with those two picks and than fill in some other need positions after that. In a way, I like that approach but man, they have some pretty glaring needs that really need adressing.That's it, nothing earth shattering, but I thought you all would like to know.

Thanks for the 4-1-1 DH Man, I would be pretty sick if they move UP to grab Tannehill.Wow.

Gotta love info from DH. Thanks man.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Great info as always from DH but it made me laugh. I heard Eskin last night on Comcast addressing the Eagles working out Tannehill..."Zero interest. They are working him out as a total smoke screen because that's what the Eagles do". Once again Eskin proves how little he knows. He just tries to stay relevant.

Eskin has NEVER been relevant.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

He wasn't there personally but I'm told that thee was a lot of buzz about the ND pro-day. One guy in particular has shot up in their rankings. Sorry, I've been told to leave names out but I can say it's a need position.

 

[Snotbubbles]

He wasn't there personally but I'm told that thee was a lot of buzz about the ND pro-day. One guy in particular has shot up in their rankings. Sorry, I've been told to leave names out but I can say it's a need position.

Can only be 1 of 2 players:Michael FloydHarrison SmithSince I don't think WR is a need position it's probably Harrison Smith. The rest of the Notre Dame prospects are 5 round or later guys.

 

[zadok]

He wasn't there personally but I'm told that thee was a lot of buzz about the ND pro-day. One guy in particular has shot up in their rankings. Sorry, I've been told to leave names out but I can say it's a need position.

Can only be 1 of 2 players:Michael FloydHarrison SmithSince I don't think WR is a need position it's probably Harrison Smith. The rest of the Notre Dame prospects are 5 round or later guys.

Agreed.

 

[Domination]

Reported in WIP...

Eagles sign Demetrius Bell to 5-yr deal.. No link

 

[Snotbubbles]

Reported in WIP...Eagles sign Demetrius Bell to 5-yr deal.. No link

Knowing the Eagles, it's probably more like a 1 year deal that will be re-worked if Peters doesn't recover.

 

[Amused to Death]

Reported in WIP...

Eagles sign Demetrius Bell to 5-yr deal.. No link

Knowing the Eagles, it's probably more like a 1 year deal that will be re-worked if Peters doesn't recover.

The Eagles and tackle Demetress Bell agreed to a five-year contract, the team announced Wednesday.http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Bell-to-Eagles-getting-close.html#ixzz1r5VyUMcr'>Link

 

[Snotbubbles]

Reported in WIP...

Eagles sign Demetrius Bell to 5-yr deal.. No link

Knowing the Eagles, it's probably more like a 1 year deal that will be re-worked if Peters doesn't recover.

The Eagles and tackle Demetress Bell agreed to a five-year contract, the team announced Wednesday.http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Bell-to-Eagles-getting-close.html#ixzz1r5VyUMcr'>Link

I didn't mean it wasn't a 5 year deal, only that it will probably be structured in a way where the Eagles will not be on the hook for anything past this year and if Peters doesn't recover they will re-work the deal, a la Cullen Jenkins.

 

[Bushead]

He wasn't there personally but I'm told that thee was a lot of buzz about the ND pro-day. One guy in particular has shot up in their rankings. Sorry, I've been told to leave names out but I can say it's a need position.

Can only be 1 of 2 players:Michael Floyd

Harrison Smith

Since I don't think WR is a need position it's probably Harrison Smith. The rest of the Notre Dame prospects are 5 round or later guys.

the "need" part doesn't seem to fit, but in combination with DH comments, this is interesting...Flloyd in for visit

 

[Amused to Death]

Reported in WIP...

Eagles sign Demetrius Bell to 5-yr deal.. No link

Knowing the Eagles, it's probably more like a 1 year deal that will be re-worked if Peters doesn't recover.

The Eagles and tackle Demetress Bell agreed to a five-year contract, the team announced Wednesday.http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/Bell-to-Eagles-getting-close.html#ixzz1r5VyUMcr'>Link

I didn't mean it wasn't a 5 year deal, only that it will probably be structured in a way where the Eagles will not be on the hook for anything past this year and if Peters doesn't recover they will re-work the deal, a la Cullen Jenkins.

Sorry, that wasn't my intent. I was coming to the board to post the blurb and a link. When I saw it was here already but no link, I posted what I had ready to go. All good, and I guess a good pick up for the Birds, which is the important thing!

 

[GroveDiesel]

Don't know full terms, but the early rumor is that the Eagles made Bell the 10th highest paid OT in the league.

But don't worry, he doesn't have injury issues like the other former Buffalo OT...oh wait.

And the name change is weird.

I do think he can be a good OT though. If the Eagles hadn't panicked after the injury to Peters, I think he was destinened to end up back in Buffalo for a lot less money where he knew the system and had experience with the players around him. And I would have been happy with that. He will be a decent replacement for Peters as long as he can stay healthy. Which you can bet won't be all 16 games.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

What's up with waiting 5 years to correct the spelling of your first name? Weird.

Can we please sign the other Bell we've been linked to? (Yeremiah... assuming he still spells it that way.)

 

[GroveDiesel]

FWIW, I'm somewhat amused that the Eagles ended up with Bell when some Eagles fans mocked Bills fans for saying Bell could be an adequate replacement in Buffalo when the Bills traded Peters.

The good thing for the Eagles is that Vick is lefty. The bad thing for the Eagles is that Bell struggles when asked to hold blocks for a long time. That was masked by Chan Gailey and Fitzpatrick because the Bills got rid of the ball so quickly in their offense. The Eagles seemed to run much slower developing plays and Vick is obviously a guy that can run around behind the line for a long time. That's something that Bell may struggle with and be exposed a bit in the Eagles offense.

 

[Snotbubbles]

FWIW, I'm somewhat amused that the Eagles ended up with Bell when some Eagles fans mocked Bills fans for saying Bell could be an adequate replacement in Buffalo when the Bills traded Peters.The good thing for the Eagles is that Vick is lefty. The bad thing for the Eagles is that Bell struggles when asked to hold blocks for a long time. That was masked by Chan Gailey and Fitzpatrick because the Bills got rid of the ball so quickly in their offense. The Eagles seemed to run much slower developing plays and Vick is obviously a guy that can run around behind the line for a long time. That's something that Bell may struggle with and be exposed a bit in the Eagles offense.

He'll only be here one year. Then you can have him back when we're done with him.

 

[Jason Wood]

We have to wait and see the terms before reacting about the deal, but the Eagles have been very good about structuring contracts so they're not hamstrung in future years. Net-net, getting Bell is better than not getting Bell.

I have to say though, I had no idea he was Karl Malone's son until I saw the news blurb.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Should've gone with "Mailman Jr." - Demetress sounds like a chick.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

He wasn't there personally but I'm told that thee was a lot of buzz about the ND pro-day. One guy in particular has shot up in their rankings. Sorry, I've been told to leave names out but I can say it's a need position.

Can only be 1 of 2 players:Michael Floyd

Harrison Smith

Since I don't think WR is a need position it's probably Harrison Smith. The rest of the Notre Dame prospects are 5 round or later guys.

the "need" part doesn't seem to fit, but in combination with DH comments, this is interesting...Flloyd in for visit

Well don't many think we "need" abig, tall, redzone WR?

As a ND fan, I'd love to have him here but I'd be shocked if it happened

 

[Awful Waffle]

I don't know if Floyd will even be available at 15. He helped himself quite a bit at his pro day. I've even heard some teams have him ahead of Blackmon.

 

[Jason Wood]

Still haven't seen full terms, but several sources are saying it's a 5-year, $35mm deal but only this year is fully guaranteed -- so it's really a very hefty one-year contract with a team option to keep him around if he plays well and/or Peters doesn't come back from the Achilles.

 

[delusional]

Why would you guys want the next Kevin Kolb? He's a second round talent who will go early in the first because he's a quarterback. Another bust...

Think is Kolb wasn't even 2nd round talent. More like 3/4 round talent.

He wasn't there personally but I'm told that thee was a lot of buzz about the ND pro-day. One guy in particular has shot up in their rankings. Sorry, I've been told to leave names out but I can say it's a need position.

Can only be 1 of 2 players:Michael FloydHarrison SmithSince I don't think WR is a need position it's probably Harrison Smith. The rest of the Notre Dame prospects are 5 round or later guys.

Like projected late round rankings have stopped the Eagles in the past from reaching.

 

[Terpman22]

Dontari Poe was spotted at Eagles facility today with Jim Washburn.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Please no. We don't need another combine freak. Brandon Graham doesn't need a friend.

 

[Jason Wood]

Dontari Poe was spotted at Eagles facility today with Jim Washburn.

I am not happy about Poe, but let's remember he was spotted accidentally because he was there at the same time the press was readying for the Demetruss Bell presser. Philly always brings in a ton of players for visits. Let's hope someone ahead of us loves Poe too.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Please no. We don't need another combine freak. Brandon Graham doesn't need a friend.

Actually I think JPP was the combine freak, and Graham was the great college player with a "high motor".

 

[Insein]

Please no. We don't need another combine freak. Brandon Graham doesn't need a friend.

Actually I think JPP was the combine freak, and Graham was the great college player with a "high motor".

JPP was the athletic, raw talent freak that had never been molded before. Graham boost his stock through the senior bowl and combine. Went from High 2nd, low first to high teens after he showcased himself.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dontari Poe was spotted at Eagles facility today with Jim Washburn.

I am not happy about Poe, but let's remember he was spotted accidentally because he was there at the same time the press was readying for the Demetruss Bell presser. Philly always brings in a ton of players for visits. Let's hope someone ahead of us loves Poe too.

And apparently when Washburn introduced him (Poe) he introduced him as Fletcher Cox

 

[loose circuits]

why do you guys bash on Graham so much? How do we know what he would have become had he stayed healthy? Considering he tore his ACL and meniscus, we haven't seen what he can do yet. I'm excited for a healthy Graham to unleash on the league next year as our 3rd DE

http://eaglesaddict.com/http:/www.eaglesaddict.com/2011-03-23/brandon-graham-injury-more-serious-than-we-realize/

 

[Faust]

NFC East draft needs

Philadelphia Eagles Excerpt:

Overview: This offseason has paled in volume comparatively to last year’s post-lockout movement, but that makes sense. One, the team’s 8-8 season that followed last year's big splash in free agency was considered a disaster. And two, there are not a lot of glaring needs now. The addition of MLB DeMeco Ryans appears to be a possible steal as a great glue guy in the middle of the defense. But there will be some noise from the Eagles, who own an extra second-round pick (plus three sixth-rounders) and always are willing trade partners on draft weekend. The injury to All-Pro OLT Jason Peters certainly throws a wrench into the team's plans.

Need No. 1: Defensive tackle

Despite the fact that the Eagles have used high draft picks and spent big free-agent money in recent years on the defensive line, they always seek talent and depth here. More so than a pass-rushing end, the team could use a quick, penetrating tackle to play the gaps for the team’s upfield, attacking scheme. Andy Reid values building a team from the inside out, and he knows that the more defensive talent he has, the easier it will be for coordinator Juan Castillo to do his job. The theory makes some sense: build a strong, deep defensive line and suddenly the back seven will look a lot better. Plus, what’s the point in trading for Ryans if he doesn’t have gifted players shielding blockers in front of him? If they get that player, Ryans will have 150 tackles if he’s healthy.

Need No. 2: Quarterback

This is going to surprise some people. Yes, Michael Vick is the starter. Yes, Trent Edwards was signed and Mike Kafka, a 2010 fourth-rounder, remains on the roster. Yes, the depth at running back, tight end and offensive tackle must be bolstered. But Reid has been sniffing around college quarterbacks this offseason, meeting with Robert Griffin III at the NFL Scouting Combine and having a private workout for Ryan Tannehill. It’s nearly certain the Eagles will draft neither, but Reid is on the prowl. He knows he is financially committed in earnest to Vick for only one more season, after which the team can sever ties without much collateral damage. Edwards is a mere placeholder, and Kafka might have done enough to win over the offensive staff, most importantly Reid. Do not be stunned if they draft a QB relatively high up with an eye on the future.

Need No. 3: Running back

Safety appears the more uncertain position, with FS Nate Allen needing to prove himself, Kurt Coleman and Jaiquawn Jarrett battling at strong safety and little depth behind them. But Allen and Jarrett were second-rounders the past two seasons, making the likelihood of the Eagles taking another safety high in the draft somewhat low. Instead, don't be shocked if they provide insurance for RB LeSean McCoy, who had a ton of carries last season and has no established backup. The Eagles tend to favor quicker backs who can make people miss and contribute in the passing game, but it would not be stunning if they opted for more of an inside-the-tackles option to take a little of the load off of McCoy. His rookie contract is due to expire after the 2012 season, although an extension appears likely at any point. Dion Lewis appears to be best as a third option.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

why do you guys bash on Graham so much? How do we know what he would have become had he stayed healthy? Considering he tore his ACL and meniscus, we haven't seen what he can do yet. I'm excited for a healthy Graham to unleash on the league next year as our 3rd DE

http://eaglesaddict.com/http:/www.eaglesaddict.com/2011-03-23/brandon-graham-injury-more-serious-than-we-realize/

Because none of that matters. The only thing that matters is that he DID get hurt and he's done nothing since being drafted. With the contracts Cole and Babin both have he'll be (best case) a 3rd DE or Jerome McDougle

 

[Bigboy10182000]

NFC East draft needs

Philadelphia Eagles Excerpt:

Overview: This offseason has paled in volume comparatively to last year’s post-lockout movement, but that makes sense. One, the team’s 8-8 season that followed last year's big splash in free agency was considered a disaster. And two, there are not a lot of glaring needs now. The addition of MLB DeMeco Ryans appears to be a possible steal as a great glue guy in the middle of the defense. But there will be some noise from the Eagles, who own an extra second-round pick (plus three sixth-rounders) and always are willing trade partners on draft weekend. The injury to All-Pro OLT Jason Peters certainly throws a wrench into the team's plans.

Need No. 1: Defensive tackle

Despite the fact that the Eagles have used high draft picks and spent big free-agent money in recent years on the defensive line, they always seek talent and depth here. More so than a pass-rushing end, the team could use a quick, penetrating tackle to play the gaps for the team’s upfield, attacking scheme. Andy Reid values building a team from the inside out, and he knows that the more defensive talent he has, the easier it will be for coordinator Juan Castillo to do his job. The theory makes some sense: build a strong, deep defensive line and suddenly the back seven will look a lot better. Plus, what’s the point in trading for Ryans if he doesn’t have gifted players shielding blockers in front of him? If they get that player, Ryans will have 150 tackles if he’s healthy.

Need No. 2: Quarterback

This is going to surprise some people. Yes, Michael Vick is the starter. Yes, Trent Edwards was signed and Mike Kafka, a 2010 fourth-rounder, remains on the roster. Yes, the depth at running back, tight end and offensive tackle must be bolstered. But Reid has been sniffing around college quarterbacks this offseason, meeting with Robert Griffin III at the NFL Scouting Combine and having a private workout for Ryan Tannehill. It’s nearly certain the Eagles will draft neither, but Reid is on the prowl. He knows he is financially committed in earnest to Vick for only one more season, after which the team can sever ties without much collateral damage. Edwards is a mere placeholder, and Kafka might have done enough to win over the offensive staff, most importantly Reid. Do not be stunned if they draft a QB relatively high up with an eye on the future.

Need No. 3: Running back

Safety appears the more uncertain position, with FS Nate Allen needing to prove himself, Kurt Coleman and Jaiquawn Jarrett battling at strong safety and little depth behind them. But Allen and Jarrett were second-rounders the past two seasons, making the likelihood of the Eagles taking another safety high in the draft somewhat low. Instead, don't be shocked if they provide insurance for RB LeSean McCoy, who had a ton of carries last season and has no established backup. The Eagles tend to favor quicker backs who can make people miss and contribute in the passing game, but it would not be stunning if they opted for more of an inside-the-tackles option to take a little of the load off of McCoy. His rookie contract is due to expire after the 2012 season, although an extension appears likely at any point. Dion Lewis appears to be best as a third option.

I agree with all but the RB. They drafted Dion Lewis last year and they seem to like him. Also, our back up RB's get about 2-3 carries a game so the need just isnt there.

No matter how many high round picks they're made on saftey that still does not mean they can play or that they like any of them, especially in Allen's case. He's shown enough that he shouldnt be a starter.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

I think the improvement Allen showed at the end if last season has earned him another chance, especially with Bowles coming in to overhaul the secondary. I think the truncated off-season must be taken into account when evaluating Jarrett's development. And I think they need to bring in Yeremiah Bell.

 

[MAC_32]

Please no. We don't need another combine freak. Brandon Graham doesn't need a friend.

Actually I think JPP was the combine freak, and Graham was the great college player with a "high motor".

Michigan fan, don't miss a game (ok I missed a few in the Rich Rod era), Graham wasn't a great college player. He made some big plays, but disappeared for long periods of time too. His motor hasn't been his issue in the pros from what I've seen from afar, it's been health, but whenever he does get healthy I'd keep my expectations in check because his motor was absolutely an issue in school. Not saying I'm happy he's gone, Michigan needs more pass rushers with his skill set, but his physical ability doesn't match the product on the field.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Please no. We don't need another combine freak. Brandon Graham doesn't need a friend.

Actually I think JPP was the combine freak, and Graham was the great college player with a "high motor".

Michigan fan, don't miss a game (ok I missed a few in the Rich Rod era), Graham wasn't a great college player. He made some big plays, but disappeared for long periods of time too. His motor hasn't been his issue in the pros from what I've seen from afar, it's been health, but whenever he does get healthy I'd keep my expectations in check because his motor was absolutely an issue in school. Not saying I'm happy he's gone, Michigan needs more pass rushers with his skill set, but his physical ability doesn't match the product on the field.

People said he was good BECAUSE of his motor.

 

[MAC_32]

Please no. We don't need another combine freak. Brandon Graham doesn't need a friend.

Actually I think JPP was the combine freak, and Graham was the great college player with a "high motor".

Michigan fan, don't miss a game (ok I missed a few in the Rich Rod era), Graham wasn't a great college player. He made some big plays, but disappeared for long periods of time too. His motor hasn't been his issue in the pros from what I've seen from afar, it's been health, but whenever he does get healthy I'd keep my expectations in check because his motor was absolutely an issue in school. Not saying I'm happy he's gone, Michigan needs more pass rushers with his skill set, but his physical ability doesn't match the product on the field.

People said he was good BECAUSE of his motor.

Not sure who said that, but myself and most Michigan fans said otherwise throughout his career. He was, and is, a 2nd round player. 1st round potential, but haven't ever seen it on the field.

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

Apparently Tom Brady's first round potential never showed up on the field either.

 

[delusional]

People don't hate on Graham the person. They hate on the fact the Eagles traded up to take him when Earl Thomas was sitting there. Safety was a MUCH LARGER need then a situational DE was. Thomas was the common sense pick. Graham was that typical "we are smarter then everybody" eagles curveball.

The fact he got injured just rehashes the McDougle failure

 

[MAC_32]

Apparently Tom Brady's first round potential never showed up on the field either. #toopredictable

 

[JAA]

DH, first ... THANKS for the info. I love it.

but

Your info said DJax was not going to be an Eagle with confidence. Should we have the same consideration with your info's direction with the draft?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

DH, first ... THANKS for the info. I love it.butYour info said DJax was not going to be an Eagle with confidence. Should we have the same consideration with your info's direction with the draft?

Actually I said they weren't going to give him the guarenteed money he wanted and that they wouldn't give him more than three years. Both turned out to be true because the deal he signed was basically a three year deal for reasonable money. My buddy didn't think they would be able to re-sign him because he thought someone would overpay. Frankly, if CHI didn't trade for Marshall, he'd probably be a Bear right now.

 

[JetMaxx]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

This is what was shared. However in communicating closely with another of our recent insiders, it is remarkable how things change and evolve with an NFL team and its personnel. Even when it seems otherwise there are no absolutes, there are no guarantees. DH gives us a highly valued inner thinking, an insight that is truly unique. But to take it as gospel is unfair and unrealistic.

 

[DJackson10]

First off I've been a longtime reader of this site 2 1/2 yrs maybe more. I always appreciate your insight DH but I figured this would be a great time to start posting here. I had an account set up but nothing further. My Grand-pop died about 1 1/2yrs ago and was a big part of me being an Eagles fan. His last game he saw was the Washington/Philly game where McNabb came back to town as he was laying on his death bed.

Anyway I have a few questions though maybe you could answer. I understand you can't give a lot of detail but any info is appreciated.

1. Did your buddy mention anything about possible other FA moves before the draft? If so did he give any info on position (maybe a hint who it might be you could give?), or anything after the draft or are they pretty much done till the draft? Amy more possible Targets at LB and what are they doing with Safety? Are they going to sign a Vet to back up Allen and Jarret? Does it look like the S spot is going to be Jarret's spot to lose etc?

2. Would the team take Kuechly if he's there at 15? What are the positions they are targeting in the draft (Order of would be great but I understand if you can't give that)? Is there a draft day trade of Samuel expected? If so any hints being dropped of who that maybe or what is coming back? Has your buddy stated anyone in particular that may surprise us being targeted, etc?

3. What's the situation with Shady's deal have you heard anything about where they are moving Chaney too?

4. Was any of the rumors about Reid wanting more control or he'd leave true? If so to what degree? I don't believe you ever addressed or anyone asked you about it so I figured I'd ask. I remember you saying Reid had lost power and he was the one who wanted to keep Kolb over Vick if I remember correctly. Also the past 2 drafts have been all Roseman and Banner right with a little from Reid in there?

5. Any other tid bits would be appreciated. Understand you can't give everything away he told you but I'm dying for something right now.

Thanks in advance btw. You are one of the very reasons I enjoy this board with your insight on these things

 

[Insein]

First off I've been a longtime reader of this site 2 1/2 yrs maybe more. I always appreciate your insight DH but I figured this would be a great time to start posting here. I had an account set up but nothing further. My Grand-pop died about 1 1/2yrs ago and was a big part of me being an Eagles fan. His last game he saw was the Washington/Philly game where McNabb came back to town as he was laying on his death bed. Anyway I have a few questions though maybe you could answer. I understand you can't give a lot of detail but any info is appreciated. 1. Did your buddy mention anything about possible other FA moves before the draft? If so did he give any info on position (maybe a hint who it might be you could give?), or anything after the draft or are they pretty much done till the draft? Amy more possible Targets at LB and what are they doing with Safety? Are they going to sign a Vet to back up Allen and Jarret? Does it look like the S spot is going to be Jarret's spot to lose etc? 2. Would the team take Kuechly if he's there at 15? What are the positions they are targeting in the draft (Order of would be great but I understand if you can't give that)? Is there a draft day trade of Samuel expected? If so any hints being dropped of who that maybe or what is coming back? Has your buddy stated anyone in particular that may surprise us being targeted, etc?3. What's the situation with Shady's deal have you heard anything about where they are moving Chaney too? 4. Was any of the rumors about Reid wanting more control or he'd leave true? If so to what degree? I don't believe you ever addressed or anyone asked you about it so I figured I'd ask. I remember you saying Reid had lost power and he was the one who wanted to keep Kolb over Vick if I remember correctly. Also the past 2 drafts have been all Roseman and Banner right with a little from Reid in there? 5. Any other tid bits would be appreciated. Understand you can't give everything away he told you but I'm dying for something right now. Thanks in advance btw. You are one of the very reasons I enjoy this board with your insight on these things

Glad to have you join the party. You seem like you're pretty knowledgeable. Don't hesitate to jump in from now on. Only thing I've heard on your list is about Samuel. I don't have insider info but local reporters are saying Samuel likely won't be moved till after the draft when teams reevaluate what they need. They were saying Samuel needs to restructure his contract to be more valuable to move but they don't know if Samuel wants to "play ball" in order to do that.

 

[Faust]

Draft team needs: Philadelphia Eagles

By Clark Judge | CBSSports.com Senior NFL Columnist

The "dream" is over. Now, the Philadelphia Eagles wake up to face reality, and the reality is that they absolutely, positively must reach the playoffs to avoid wholesale changes.

A year ago they were "The Dream Team" that was supposed to lap the field. Only they didn't. They lost eight of their first 12 starts, committed a raft of turnovers, couldn't keep their quarterback on the field and failed to protect fourth-quarter leads.

"This was," owner Jeff Lurie said afterward, "without question the most disappointing season since I've owned the team."

Lurie made it clear he wouldn't tolerate an encore performance, but let's face it: Last year's Eagles were doomed from the start. With so many newcomers there was little continuity, especially early, and with so much money paid to incoming free agents there was disenchantment among deserving holdovers.

Result: A house divided against itself. The Eagles fizzled early and often, not pulling together until it was too late. But then, suddenly and inexplicably, they were unbeatable -- winning their last four by an average of 19.9 points each.

The question, of course, is: Who exactly are this year's Eagles? The club that couldn't get out of its own way or the team that pulverized opponents down the stretch? And, perhaps starting with this NFL Draft, we'll start finding out.

QB: It's not just recurring injuries that are a problem with Michael Vick; it's recurring mistakes, and there were a lot of them in 2011. He committed 21 turnovers by himself, including six in the red zone, while the Eagles had more turnovers than everyone but Tampa Bay, a club that lost its final 10 starts. But Vick's turnovers are related to the hits he absorbs, and both must be addressed -- because if the Eagles are to return to the top of the division, it will be with Michael Vick, not Mike Kafka, at quarterback. Vick missed three more games last season, and he hasn't played a complete schedule since 2006 when he was with Atlanta. Maybe that's why coach Andy Reid is talking about how to protect the guy, reminding Vick that the four teams that made it to last year's conference championship games had quarterbacks who didn't miss a start. Vick wasn't nearly as effective last season as he was in 2010, and part of that was due to injuries and part was due to his offensive line. It wasn't bad. In fact, it was pretty decent. But Vick wasn't familiar with its blocking patterns and often ran into unnecessary sacks and, worse, costly mistakes. But look what happened those last four games: Vick ran less, remarkably less, and he committed fewer turnovers -- with twice as many touchdown passes (7) as interceptions (3). There's a lesson there.

RB: LeSean McCoy is a bigger and maybe, just maybe, better version of Brian Westbrook -- long a fixture of successful Philadelphia teams. McCoy was one of the game's most productive players in 2011 and the Eagles' MVP, rushing for a career-best 1,309 yards and scoring more touchdowns (20) than anyone out there. The Eagles are fortunate he's theirs, and they know it -- one reason they're already talking about a contract extension. But they woule be wise to use the draft to find McCoy some relief. Injuries drove Westbrook from the game, and they'll do the same with McCoy if the Eagles can't find a suitable backup to assume some of his carries. They have Dion Lewis, but stay tuned. It's liable to change ... and it should.

WR: Look for a big season from DeSean Jackson. I do, and I'll tell you why: The guy's happy. He's happy because he just hit the lottery, signing a five-year, $51 million contract extension that makes him a rich young man. A new deal was an issue with Jackson last season and, by his admission, it affected his play -- with the star wide receiver sulking and dropping passes he shouldn't drop. That shouldn't happen again -- not as long as Jackson stays healthy. At his best, he's one of the most dangerous receivers in the game, and I expect him to be at his best now that he's been rewarded. Jeremy Maclin is an ideal No. 2, a guy with sure hands and the right attitude, while Jason Avant and Riley Cooper provide depth at a position that is top heavy in talent. Avant is a perfect slot receiver, coming off his best season (52 catches) as a pro.

TE: Brent Celek and Clay Harbor are talented, reliable and trouble for opposing defenses. Both can catch. Both can block. And both were factors in McCoy's breakout season. Celek is one of the game's most underrated players, with 53 receptions in his last 11 starts, while Harbor is a rising star who should make more of an impact this season than he did last.

OL: With the loss of left tackle Jason Peters, the Eagles subtracted one of the top offensive linemen in the game. That's a substantial setback, especially when we're talking about keeping Michael Vick in the lineup. But it didn't take Philadelphia long to fill the position, with the Eagles signing free-agent Demetrees Bell to replace Peters. If the name sounds familiar it should. He replaced Peters in Buffalo, only then he was known as Demetrius Bell. With a change of address comes a change of name, and maybe that's the start of something good for Bell. The guy is talented but raw and has a history of injuries that shortened his career with the Bills. Nevertheless, he should be an upgrade over King Dunlap, who looked like the next best option until Bell showed up. Retaining left guard Evan Mathis was important for continuity, with Mathis this close to going to Baltimore before the Eagles came to the rescue. He, center Jason Kelce, guard Danny Watkins and tackle Todd Herremans comprise four-fifths of an offensive line that starred last season under the direction of coach Howard Mudd. But drafting for some depth wouldn't hurt.

DL: There aren't many better pass-rushing tandems than Jason Babin and Trent Cole. The two combined for 29 of the team's league-high 50 sacks. In fact, the defensive line was responsible for 46 of the club's total, an indication of how productive line coach Jim Washburn's pass rush was. But the problem with Philadelphia's defensive line wasn't producing sacks. It was stopping the run. The Eagles couldn't do it until they tinkered with Washburn's "Wide-Nine" setup, with the coach moving defensive ends closer to the interior to close gaps and help linebackers. That's when tackles Cullen Jenkins and Mike Patterson began to make an impact, and it's one reason why the club looks better now than it did at the beginning of last season. The Eagles are so solid across the defensive line that there aren't many front fours I'd take over this one. Pass rusher Brandon Graham could be a force off the bench, but injuries have kept him off the field, so drafting depth at this position would be a wise move.

LB: This is the greatest area of need, a position where Philadelphia has been deficient for years. The addition of middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans could change all that. Ryans was a tackling machine when he was with Houston, consistently leading the Texans in tackles until he suffered a torn Achilles and until the Texans went to the 3-4. He is better suited to a 4-3, one reason Philadelphia made the deal. Ryans also is a strong presence in the locker room, another reason the Eagles need him. There weren't playmakers at this position last season, but there's at least one now. Ryans' addition means Jamar Chaney can settle in at outside linebacker spot, while Brian Rolle or Akeem Jorden takes over at the other. Even though there is depth (Casey Matthews and Moise Fokou in the mix) here, this team changes linebackers like most people change TV channels, so drafting more would be a good idea.

DB: Once upon a time the Eagles had Brian Dawkins at safety. But they let him go in free agency, and they never should have. He not only continued to be productive for Denver; the Eagles never found a suitable replacement -- on the field or in the locker room. And they are still looking, with safety an urgent need entering this month's draft. The club is loaded at cornerback, but there's a feeling that sooner or later it moves Asante Samuel. Of course, that was the feeling a year ago, but the talk has serious legs now, and I'd be surprised if something doesn't happen by the draft. Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are stable at the corners, provided the Eagles don't play Asomugha off receivers as they did at times last season. If and when Samuels is moved, the Eagles might be able to make better use of two cornerbacks who too often played out of familiar positions last season. Nate Allen is a promising safety, but he struggled to recover from a serious injury in 2010, while Kurt Coleman is little more than serviceable at strong safety.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

This is what was shared. However in communicating closely with another of our recent insiders, it is remarkable how things change and evolve with an NFL team and its personnel. Even when it seems otherwise there are no absolutes, there are no guarantees. DH gives us a highly valued inner thinking, an insight that is truly unique. But to take it as gospel is unfair and unrealistic.

Jetmaxx is exactly correct. Things change every day, especially this time of year with all the FA running around. Take the most recent problems with Peters. Many people (not necessarily in this thread) were saying "OMG! Now we need to grab the best OT in the draft. Vick is going to get killed. Etc, Etc" Well, they went out and grabbed the best OT in FA to what is essentially a 1 year contract. Exhibit B is the things that was said about D-Jax. My buddy was certain someone would overpay him given his talent. He guessed (actually, it was more of a guess) that team would be CHI. CHI went out and got Marshall, which no one saw coming. D-Jax than backed off his demands a bit as CHI seemed to be the only team willing to pony up a pick and a contract for him. When you see how much WR got in recent contracts, the Eagles got off light. Yeah, there were reservations that I can't speak on, but there was a reason the contract was structured the way it was.Exhibit C is the draft chatter I try to give you. I've been correct quite a bit there, but I'm also wrong quite a bit as well. Face it, you never know who the guy in front of you will take or who will drop. People thought I was crazy when I said the Eagles were looking QB in the second when they drafted Kolb. No way would Maclin falls to them. OMG, I can't believe they didn't draft *insert WR here* the year they got D-Jax in the second. Yeah, there are busts. I've fully admitted that my buddy was the guy who championed Brandon Graham. He LOVED him both as a player and as a person. Who knows what would happen if he didn't get hurt.Anyway, that's all for now. Hopefully I'll more info later for y'all.

 

[dhockster]

I really don't think DJax is irreplaceable, mainly because we haven't seen DJax be the guy we thought he was for awhile. If I thought a big payday would have him recapture his dynamism and willingness to take a hit, I would push to pay the man. But at this point I don't see why a big payday will get him to play hard again.

From what I'm told, unless he takes a DEEP home town discount, he's done. They have lots of worries about stuff other than his attitude. I can't say more than that. I put it at less than a 5% chance he's back.

This is what was shared. However in communicating closely with another of our recent insiders, it is remarkable how things change and evolve with an NFL team and its personnel. Even when it seems otherwise there are no absolutes, there are no guarantees. DH gives us a highly valued inner thinking, an insight that is truly unique. But to take it as gospel is unfair and unrealistic.

Jetmaxx is exactly correct. Things change every day, especially this time of year with all the FA running around. Take the most recent problems with Peters. Many people (not necessarily in this thread) were saying "OMG! Now we need to grab the best OT in the draft. Vick is going to get killed. Etc, Etc" Well, they went out and grabbed the best OT in FA to what is essentially a 1 year contract. Exhibit B is the things that was said about D-Jax. My buddy was certain someone would overpay him given his talent. He guessed (actually, it was more of a guess) that team would be CHI. CHI went out and got Marshall, which no one saw coming. D-Jax than backed off his demands a bit as CHI seemed to be the only team willing to pony up a pick and a contract for him. When you see how much WR got in recent contracts, the Eagles got off light. Yeah, there were reservations that I can't speak on, but there was a reason the contract was structured the way it was.Exhibit C is the draft chatter I try to give you. I've been correct quite a bit there, but I'm also wrong quite a bit as well. Face it, you never know who the guy in front of you will take or who will drop. People thought I was crazy when I said the Eagles were looking QB in the second when they drafted Kolb. No way would Maclin falls to them. OMG, I can't believe they didn't draft *insert WR here* the year they got D-Jax in the second. Yeah, there are busts. I've fully admitted that my buddy was the guy who championed Brandon Graham. He LOVED him both as a player and as a person. Who knows what would happen if he didn't get hurt.Anyway, that's all for now. Hopefully I'll more info later for y'all.

DH, you rock. Thanks for all the info.

 

[Jason Wood]

Reuben Frank said on Twitter that the Bell deal is 5-years, $35mm but only $3.25mm due in 2012 with no guaranteed money beyond that (there's a $8.5mm roster bonus for 2003, not sure what month).



That is an AWESOME structure. We get him, cheaply I might add, for this year and then have total control over whether we keep him or not, with zero future impediment if we opt out. Amazing work given how much we were in a "need" position after the Peters injury.

 

[DJackson10]

First off I've been a longtime reader of this site 2 1/2 yrs maybe more. I always appreciate your insight DH but I figured this would be a great time to start posting here. I had an account set up but nothing further. My Grand-pop died about 1 1/2yrs ago and was a big part of me being an Eagles fan. His last game he saw was the Washington/Philly game where McNabb came back to town as he was laying on his death bed. Anyway I have a few questions though maybe you could answer. I understand you can't give a lot of detail but any info is appreciated. 1. Did your buddy mention anything about possible other FA moves before the draft? If so did he give any info on position (maybe a hint who it might be you could give?), or anything after the draft or are they pretty much done till the draft? Amy more possible Targets at LB and what are they doing with Safety? Are they going to sign a Vet to back up Allen and Jarret? Does it look like the S spot is going to be Jarret's spot to lose etc? 2. Would the team take Kuechly if he's there at 15? What are the positions they are targeting in the draft (Order of would be great but I understand if you can't give that)? Is there a draft day trade of Samuel expected? If so any hints being dropped of who that maybe or what is coming back? Has your buddy stated anyone in particular that may surprise us being targeted, etc?3. What's the situation with Shady's deal have you heard anything about where they are moving Chaney too? 4. Was any of the rumors about Reid wanting more control or he'd leave true? If so to what degree? I don't believe you ever addressed or anyone asked you about it so I figured I'd ask. I remember you saying Reid had lost power and he was the one who wanted to keep Kolb over Vick if I remember correctly. Also the past 2 drafts have been all Roseman and Banner right with a little from Reid in there? 5. Any other tid bits would be appreciated. Understand you can't give everything away he told you but I'm dying for something right now. Thanks in advance btw. You are one of the very reasons I enjoy this board with your insight on these things

Glad to have you join the party. You seem like you're pretty knowledgeable. Don't hesitate to jump in from now on. Only thing I've heard on your list is about Samuel. I don't have insider info but local reporters are saying Samuel likely won't be moved till after the draft when teams reevaluate what they need. They were saying Samuel needs to restructure his contract to be more valuable to move but they don't know if Samuel wants to "play ball" in order to do that.

Thanks looking forward to it.