2012 Offseason Dynasty Trades (1 Viewer)

[thriftyrocker]

Really? I feel like I would prefer Starks over most/all the 1.10 or later picks this year.

If you like Starks, that's fine. Considering Quick, Hill, Hillman, Miller, and Pead were taken post 1.10 this year, I'd rather have my choice from that tier next year than Starks.That's not really the point though. You sold next year's 1st to improve your chances this year. I don't view him as an improvement over the 3 nominal "starting RBs" you already had (Brown/Redman/McGahee). The depth could make a difference, but it's just depth.Your RBs are definitely better than last year though.

 

[Instinctive]

Really? I feel like I would prefer Starks over most/all the 1.10 or later picks this year.

If you like Starks, that's fine. Considering Quick, Hill, Hillman, Miller, and Pead were taken post 1.10 this year, I'd rather have my choice from that tier next year than Starks.That's not really the point though. You sold next year's 1st to improve your chances this year. I don't view him as an improvement over the 3 nominal "starting RBs" you already had (Brown/Redman/McGahee). The depth could make a difference, but it's just depth.Your RBs are definitely better than last year though.

Hillman is the only guy I wouldn't trade for Starks from that group.And you're right, the depth situation on that team was awful. I think people are really undervaluing Starks this year, may have to try and buy him elsewhere too.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

If I had the time to wait and wasn't hurting at RB, I'd prefer Hill over Starks certainly, and Quick over him possibly.

 

[JPeso]

10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WRQB Sam BradfordWR Roddy WhiteWR D. BoweforWR Calvin Johnson

Stole Calvin.

 

[JPeso]

14 team 0.5 ppr dynasty QB/2RB/2WR/1RW/1RWT/1TETeam A sends:2013 1st round pick (back half)Team B sends:James StarksRashad Jennings

Pick

Really? I feel like I would prefer Starks over most/all the 1.10 or later picks this year.

Any 1st is worth much more in my eyes than him. This was a strong class, but there are 26 players I'd rather have than Starks out of this years rookie draft.

 

[Late225]

14 team ppr idp start 1qb, 1rb, 3wr, 1te, 2 rb/wr/te flex (max 1 flex wr)

Meachem for 2013 first (prob mid)

 

[lbouchard]

10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WRQB Sam BradfordWR Roddy WhiteWR D. BoweforWR Calvin Johnson

Stole Calvin.

I don't get why people still value Bradford. His career YPA is under 6.

 

[Gamma1210]

10 Team PPR Full IDP Start 2QB

RGIII was taken at 1.01 and 1.02 was on the clock

Team A gave:

Julio Jones

1.07

1.10

3.07

B gave:

Dez

1.02 (Luck)

5.02

 

[JamboTaylor]

16 team 0.5ppr

DHB

Late 2nd

FOR

M. Williams (TB)

Ridley

Thoughts?

 

[todisco1]

16 team 0.5pprDHBLate 2ndFORM. Williams (TB)RidleyThoughts?

I'd take the Williams/Ridley side, though I think it's pretty fair.

 

[Scoonie Pencil]

12-team ppr/6pt passing tds

Team A

Rodgers

Team B

Forte/Crabtree/Locker

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Anyone who thinks Blackmon is on the same level as Julio jones doesn't know football. Yes, it's their opinion but it's just flat out wrong. Trying to convince someone to make a trade probably.

To be fair, there were plenty of people that had Blackmon rated ahead of Jones when Blackmon was expected to come out in last season's draft class. We have the hindsight of Jones' rookie season now, but what if Blackmon comes out and takes the league by storm.Personally I had Jones rated above both Green and Blackmon last season, but your opening line is extremely harsh and opens the door for you to look very foolish should Blackmon have a stellar rookie season, and lets not act like that's an impossibility.

 

[Burl]

12-team ppr/6pt passing tdsTeam ARodgersTeam BForte/Crabtree/Locker

Rodgers side by quite a fair margin.

 

[Dragon1952]

Anyone who thinks Blackmon is on the same level as Julio jones doesn't know football. Yes, it's their opinion but it's just flat out wrong. Trying to convince someone to make a trade probably.

To be fair, there were plenty of people that had Blackmon rated ahead of Jones when Blackmon was expected to come out in last season's draft class. We have the hindsight of Jones' rookie season now, but what if Blackmon comes out and takes the league by storm.Personally I had Jones rated above both Green and Blackmon last season, but your opening line is extremely harsh and opens the door for you to look very foolish should Blackmon have a stellar rookie season, and lets not act like that's an impossibility.

Yes, I would expect this post to definitely be revisited if Blackmon blows up.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Doc Oc,

I agree my opening line was harsh but it bothered me when someone said they would take blackmon over Julio even after seeing Julio play his first season in the NFL. When was the last time a player lived up to his potential after getting arrested before he even signed his rookie contract????

 

[Gottabesweet]

Wasn't involved but a rebuilding team just sent: cam newton and Greg Salas for Tom Brady, pick 22 overall and Charles Clay.

 

[Dragon1952]

Doc Oc,

I agree my opening line was harsh but it bothered me when someone said they would take blackmon over Julio even after seeing Julio play his first season in the NFL. When was the last time a player lived up to his potential after getting arrested before he even signed his rookie contract????

Not to quibble, but no one ever actually said that they would take Blackmon over Julio. A couple of the quotes (along with my comments in ( ) were,"Julio Jones is only slightly greater than 1.4 value." (I guess 'slightly' is pretty subjective. It implies something plus the 1.4)

"RGIII (16 team remember), Michael Floyd, Justin Blackmon could all be considered close in value." (again, 'close' is subjective and also implies 'something plus')

"I wouldn't trade 1.5 or better for Julio." (this poster later recanted and said,"1.5 was probably an exaggeration, but I'd easily rather have Rich, Luck, RG3, and Martin over him. I would consider Wilson depending on need. I don't see Julio that much better than Blackmon."

Also, keep in mind that the trade was done in a 16 team league which would make the QB's more valuable.

 

[todisco1]

Wasn't involved but a rebuilding team just sent: cam newton and Greg Salas for Tom Brady, pick 22 overall and Charles Clay.

The rebuilding team sent Cam for Brady?

 

[mcd]

10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WRQB Sam BradfordWR Roddy WhiteWR D. BoweforWR Calvin Johnson

Stole Calvin.

I don't get why people still value Bradford. His career YPA is under 6.

Stafford was below 6 for his first 2 seasons. Get Bradford in a solid system & give him some time to throw to upgraded Wrs & he should show some improvement. Last year was a disaster, if you liked him after his rookie season then i don't see any reason not to like him now.

 

[DexterDew]

took over a team in a 14 Team Super Flex High Performance, not sure what all that means but it is graded PPR, can start 1-2 QB, 2-4 RB and 2-4 WR/TE.

Not quite a total rebuild but some players I don't like and was very weak at RB and QB. Did have the 1.02, Peyton, Bradshaw, A Johnson, Fitz, DJax... and not much else.

Traded: Bradshaw and 1.02

Received: Flacco, Greene/Powell (had McKnight), Ridley/Vereen (had Woodhead), Cobb and Michael Floyd (plus 2.12 to go).

May have undersold the 1.02 in a Super Flex league, but I was able to get a servicable QB, match up the NE backfield with Vereen and get Cobb/Floyd.

For a 14 teamer, I think this team can compete if Peyton and AJ are healthy and a startable RB emerges in NYJ and NE.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Wasn't involved but a rebuilding team just sent: cam newton and Greg Salas for Tom Brady, pick 22 overall and Charles Clay.

The rebuilding team sent Cam for Brady?Yeah, didn't get the move either. His team isn't good and he gets pick 22, not having a first. Guess he thinks Brady had 3-5 more years

 

[broncofan13000]

16 team PPR League,

Gave: two 2013 first round picks, with one of them being the potential 1.01 (the other is mid-late 1st)

Got: D.Thomas

my team:

Cam, BigBen

TRich, Quizz,

Nicks, Dez, DThomas, Torrey

Ahernandez, Cook

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

PPR

ADP

Gerhart

2013 Second

for

Finley

 

[lbouchard]

PPRADPGerhart2013 SecondforFinley

What?!? You ADDED to Adrian Peterson to get Finley??

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

PPRADPGerhart2013 SecondforFinley

What?!? You ADDED to Adrian Peterson to get Finley??

Not my trade. Figured a trade with ADP post-arrest might be an interesting one to asses.

 

[joey]

PPRADPGerhart2013 SecondforFinley

What?!? You ADDED to Adrian Peterson to get Finley??

Not my trade. Figured a trade with ADP post-arrest might be an interesting one to asses.

He was arrested. Not found dead

 

[Boone22]

I agree. Good thing the guy threw in that second rounder it it might not have been accepted! (sarcasm)

 

[sspunisher]

I'd like to hear some thoughts on this trade: PPR, 6 point per passing TD.

Team A Receives

Brandon Lloyd

Ronnie Hillman

2013 1st

Team B Receives

Andrew Luck

Donald Brown

Beanie Wells (Ryan Williams Owner)

Bernard Scott (Green-Ellis Owner)

Team A has Aaron Rodgers so Luck was expendable. Also a contending team so youth isn't an issue with acquiring the 31 year old Lloyd.

Team B: Very little depth, was picking #1 overall (took Richardson) so he's trying to get rid of older players.

 

[lbouchard]

I'd like to hear some thoughts on this trade: PPR, 6 point per passing TD.Team A ReceivesBrandon LloydRonnie Hillman2013 1stTeam B ReceivesAndrew LuckDonald BrownBeanie Wells (Ryan Williams Owner)Bernard Scott (Green-Ellis Owner)Team A has Aaron Rodgers so Luck was expendable. Also a contending team so youth isn't an issue with acquiring the 31 year old Lloyd.Team B: Very little depth, was picking #1 overall (took Richardson) so he's trying to get rid of older players.

I'm a big fan of Lloyd, but I also am a supporter of both Wells and Brown. Not a huge fan of Hillman. Where is the first projected? That might swing the deal. Seems pretty even

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

12 team ppr

Aj green and Daniel Thomas

For

Victor Cruz, randall Cobb and Roy helu

 

[JPeso]

12 team ppr Aj green and Daniel Thomas ForVictor Cruz, randall Cobb and Roy helu

Chump change.

 

[sspunisher]

I'd like to hear some thoughts on this trade: PPR, 6 point per passing TD.Team A ReceivesBrandon LloydRonnie Hillman2013 1stTeam B ReceivesAndrew LuckDonald BrownBeanie Wells (Ryan Williams Owner)Bernard Scott (Green-Ellis Owner)Team A has Aaron Rodgers so Luck was expendable. Also a contending team so youth isn't an issue with acquiring the 31 year old Lloyd.Team B: Very little depth, was picking #1 overall (took Richardson) so he's trying to get rid of older players.

I'm a big fan of Lloyd, but I also am a supporter of both Wells and Brown. Not a huge fan of Hillman. Where is the first projected? That might swing the deal. Seems pretty even

Should be a top 6 pick pick unless his team completely overachieves. Bit tough to trade in this league so I was happy to get Lloyd even though I gave up more than I had expected. And technically he gave me the 2.01 and I took Hillman so I was happy with that.

 

[Dez]

10 team non PPR - Did I overpay ?

New Mexico gave up:

Stafford, Matthew DET QB

Charleston gave up:

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.07

Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.07

Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.10

Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.05

Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from Charleston

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Charleston

Year 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from Huntington

Year 2013 Round 3 Draft Pick from Charleston

 

[Buffaloes]

10 team, .5 PPR

start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex & IDP

dealt Knowshon Moreno for Toby Gerhart (already have Peterson)

dealt Welker and Mike Bush for Julio Jones

Feel pretty good about both deals. Our league has a salary cap and I was able to shed some cap space in both trades and make couple deals for guys I liked.

 

[lbouchard]

10 team non PPR - Did I overpay ?New Mexico gave up:Stafford, Matthew DET QBCharleston gave up:Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.07Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.07Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.10Year 2012 Draft Pick 3.05Year 2013 Round 1 Draft Pick from CharlestonYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from CharlestonYear 2013 Round 2 Draft Pick from HuntingtonYear 2013 Round 3 Draft Pick from Charleston

if all you're dealing is rookie picks, you're never overpaying

 

[Sabertooth]

10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WRQB Sam BradfordWR Roddy WhiteWR D. BoweforWR Calvin Johnson

Stole Calvin.

I don't get why people still value Bradford. His career YPA is under 6.

Rookie of the Year two years ago, then played hurt and with journeymen wideouts last season.

 

[todisco1]

10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WRQB Sam BradfordWR Roddy WhiteWR D. BoweforWR Calvin Johnson

Stole Calvin.

I don't get why people still value Bradford. His career YPA is under 6.

Rookie of the Year two years ago, then played hurt and with journeymen wideouts last season.

I kinda like Bradford as well. Don't know if he'll pull a Stafford, but I do think it's possible he blossoms into a top tier QB in the next year or two. I actually think it's a pretty even trade. I know Calvin is the man but Bowe/Roddy are pretty darn good.

 

[Sabertooth]

Recently traded Wes Welker straight up for Marshawn Lynch. I figure both on about 3 more years of production, but Welker is going to start losing opportunities with Lloyd there and Belichick isn't exactly a sappy guy who continues to pay players past their shelf lives. Plus I needed a running back after bagging up my draft a bit with the help of Mr. Jameson.

 

[Scarpaggio]

Screaming Aardvarks gave up:

Hardesty, Montario CLE RB

Hunter, Kendall SFO RB

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.02

The Drunken Clams gave up:

Flynn, Matt SEA QB

Wells, Beanie ARI RB

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.05

 

[Gamma1210]

10 Team PPR Full IDP Start 2QBRGIII was taken at 1.01 and 1.02 was on the clockTeam A gave:Julio Jones1.071.103.07B gaveez1.02 (Luck)5.02

Curious on people's thoughts here. I gave up Julio, but was in desperate need of a QB and I don't think Dez is a huge dropoff.

 

[King of the Jungle]

10 Team PPR Full IDP Start 2QBRGIII was taken at 1.01 and 1.02 was on the clockTeam A gave:Julio Jones1.071.103.07B gaveez1.02 (Luck)5.02

Curious on people's thoughts here. I gave up Julio, but was in desperate need of a QB and I don't think Dez is a huge dropoff.

Julio has been getting a lot of attention lately but like Dez he will need to prove it on the field. If QB was a need and you believe Luck is the next big thing I don't have any problems with the trade.

 

[todisco1]

10 Team PPR Full IDP Start 2QBRGIII was taken at 1.01 and 1.02 was on the clockTeam A gave:Julio Jones1.071.103.07B gaveez1.02 (Luck)5.02

Curious on people's thoughts here. I gave up Julio, but was in desperate need of a QB and I don't think Dez is a huge dropoff.

Don't know if I would have given up the 1.10 with that but Dez/Julio could easily be a wash, and you did get Luck.

 

[cheese]

10 Team PPR Full IDP Start 2QBRGIII was taken at 1.01 and 1.02 was on the clockTeam A gave:Julio Jones1.071.103.07B gaveez1.02 (Luck)5.02

Curious on people's thoughts here. I gave up Julio, but was in desperate need of a QB and I don't think Dez is a huge dropoff.

I actually think their is a big dropoff from Julio to Dez, but it's all opinion up to this point. You still got decent value though if you like Luck.

 

[jsharlan]

16 team nonPPR, IDP, contracts:

Team A Gave:

WR Emmanuel Sanders

DE Carlos Dunlap

DT Kendall Langford

2013 4th round rookie pick

Team B Gave:

1.05 rookie pick(used to select Luck)

 

[lbouchard]

16 team nonPPR, IDP, contracts:Team A Gave:WR Emmanuel SandersDE Carlos DunlapDT Kendall Langford2013 4th round rookie pickTeam B Gave:1.05 rookie pick(used to select Luck)

quantity for quality...team b got played

 

[lbouchard]

10 team start 2 QB/2 RB/4 WRQB Sam BradfordWR Roddy WhiteWR D. BoweforWR Calvin Johnson

Stole Calvin.

I don't get why people still value Bradford. His career YPA is under 6.

Rookie of the Year two years ago, then played hurt and with journeymen wideouts last season.

rookie of the year with a sub 6 ypa. his volume stats were decent, but efficiency wise they were horrible

 

[Donsmith753]

16 team .5 PPR

Gave a late 2013 2nd (26-32 overall)

For

Stephens Howling

2012 4.01

We split our draft so this pick won't be made until the middle of preseason.

Currently planning on taking Josh Gordon though.

 

[cheese]

16 team nonPPR, IDP, contracts:Team A Gave:WR Emmanuel SandersDE Carlos DunlapDT Kendall Langford2013 4th round rookie pickTeam B Gave:1.05 rookie pick(used to select Luck)

quantity for quality...team b got played

Depends on scoring and value of IDPs, but I most likely agree with you.

 

[Scarpaggio]

This is a partial repost... draft started today

Screaming Aardvarks gave up:

Hardesty, Montario CLE RB

Hunter, Kendall SFO RB

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.02(Martin)

The Drunken Clams gave up:

Flynn, Matt SEA QB

Wells, Beanie ARI RB

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.05(Hillman)

Soul Sucking Jerks gave up:

Cutler, Jay CHI QB

Ingram, Mark NOS RB

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.12

Barefoot Ninjas gave up:

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.03(Luck)

Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.04(RG3)

Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.09

 

[Tronic Son]

12 Team PPR 1QB 1RB 1WR 2Flex 1TE K D

Team A gave:

M.Austin

M.Ingram

S.Greene

Team B gave:

J.Charles

Thoughts?