2013 Hot Stove & Capella's Fabulous Cornhole Thread (1 Viewer)

[Bogart]

So Cruz has gone for looking for nothing less than 4/75 to maybe begging someone to take him on 1/15 or less

Maybe Texas takes him back to split DH with Cuz.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

The rumor is the O's grab Cruz or Kendrys now that they've already given up their first rounder for Baldy.

 

[guru_007]

So Reds are talking with Homer Bailey about a 6 year, 100-110M contract extension.

Extrapolating that out using some guru-esque metrics, I'd say that Kershaw's contract should have been in the neighborhood of 7 years, 2.2 Billion. Dodgers got a huge bargain there.

 

[Wrigley]

Grant Balfours spring training ride

 

[Paulymaggs]

I want to see the other side of this story, but just how pathetic is the current Phillies management? "Ratting" on draft picks that don't sign with you?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/02/phillies-notes-rollins-montgomery-draft-picks.html

 

[Daywalker]

I want to see the other side of this story, but just how pathetic is the current Phillies management? "Ratting" on draft picks that don't sign with you?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/02/phillies-notes-rollins-montgomery-draft-picks.html

Ratting out a kid who only wanted proper representation is pretty low. MLB seems to be fairly content with the current system I doubt they want the NCAA sticking their nose into the process.

Also has the potential to make Philly look really bad if the kid wanted to sue them.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Capuano to the Red Sox

 

[Eephus]

Capuano to the Red Sox

Should be a decent substitute for Dempster

 

[the moops]

Capuano to the Red Sox

Should be a decent substitute for Dempster

for probably half the money?

 

[shadyridr]

Capuano to the Red Sox

ugh good move

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Capuano to the Red Sox

Should be a decent substitute for

Dempster

for probably half the money?

Way less than half the money, details not out yet but it is a minor league deal with an invite to camp

 

[the moops]

2.3 million apparently. that is a slick signing

 

[Hoos First]

Braves signed Andrelton Simmons to a seven-year, $58 million contract extension.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Capuano to the Red Sox

Should be a decent substitute for Dempster

Dare I say an upgrade.

 

[the moops]

how the hell does capuano only get a minor league deal? Yea, he has injury concerns but he is a lefty and at worst league average pitcher

 

[Eephus]

how the hell does capuano only get a minor league deal? Yea, he has injury concerns but he is a lefty and at worst league average pitcher

It's February 20th

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Capuano to the Red Sox

Should be a decent substitute for Dempster

Dare I say an upgrade.

Not sure he is an upgrade but probably better suited forced the pen than Dempster. Dempster retiring was a major gift for the Red Sox though and now he is effectively replaced at a fraction of the price.

 

[the moops]

how the hell does capuano only get a minor league deal? Yea, he has injury concerns but he is a lefty and at worst league average pitcher

It's February 20th

OK and?

 

[Eephus]

how the hell does capuano only get a minor league deal? Yea, he has injury concerns but he is a lefty and at worst league average pitcher

It's February 20th

OK and?

There wasn't any market for a 35 year old pitcher coming off a poor year. The later it gets teams are more reluctant to open a spot on the 40 man roster for a major league free agent. Cap was running out of time to get into a camp. He and his agent figured that with Dempster's retirement, this was his best shot.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Braves signed Andrelton Simmons to a seven-year, $58 million contract extension.

Wow, pretty aggressive there.

 

[the moops]

well yes I understand why he signed it. was questioning what the hell the other 29 GMs were doing all winter that it came to him signing a minor league deal

 

[Eephus]

well yes I understand why he signed it. was questioning what the hell the other 29 GMs were doing all winter that it came to him signing a minor league deal

They were all waiting for Paul Maholm to establish the market rate for mediocre crafty lefties

 

[RnR]

well yes I understand why he signed it. was questioning what the hell the other 29 GMs were doing all winter that it came to him signing a minor league deal

They were all waiting for Paul Maholm to establish the market rate for mediocre crafty lefties

I'm with Moops on this. While Homer Bailey is collecting 100mil, I'm taking my chances that spending a combined 3 mil on Capuano and Maholm nets me a solid No. 4 starter.

 

[shadyridr]

Am i the only one who thinks that bailey contract is insane? Surprised there wasnt more mention of it.

 

[dparker713]

Am i the only one who thinks that bailey contract is insane? Surprised there wasnt more mention of it.

I don't think it makes much sense for the Reds. I think its probably what he could have gotten on the open market right now, but he was still under team control this year. Of course, he's also only 27, so I'm not surprised he was able to command more money than some of the FA pitchers this offseason.

 

[Daywalker]

Am i the only one who thinks that bailey contract is insane? Surprised there wasnt more mention of it.

27. Has the pedigree. Seems to be coming into his own. Buster Olney was saying what marquee FA is going to want to go pitch in that park.

Tanaka a different animal but he got 6/155 with a 20mill posting fee. 6/105 for Bailey seems about right. Not an overpay.

 

[Da Guru]

Am i the only one who thinks that bailey contract is insane? Surprised there wasnt more mention of it.

I am liking the Anibal Sanchez contract more and more.

Santana is on the clearance table. 40-50% off his original demands. Morales and Drew both turned down 14 million and now are sitting at home watching the Olympics.

 

[dparker713]

Cruz finally lands with the Orioles. 1 for $8 with incentives. While I'm not a fan of Cruz, can't see how anyone can consider this a bad signing. I'd raterh take a chance with Morales, though. No idea where he winds up now, Pittsburg maybe?

 

[the moops]

he rejected the qualifying offer right?

 

[dparker713]

he rejected the qualifying offer right?

Yes Cruz rejecting the QO. 3 guys remain that did so - Ervin Santana, Kendrys Morales, Stephen Drew. Spots probably open up as injuries mount in spring training, but its hard to find a landing place for any of them right now.

 

[Da Guru]

he rejected the qualifying offer right?

Rejected a 1 year 14.1 million dollar deal. As did Morales and Drew. Lots of $$$ left on the tables.

 

[dparker713]

he rejected the qualifying offer right?

Rejected a 1 year 14.1 million dollar deal. As did Morales and Drew. Lots of $$$ left on the tables.

Rumor was he rejected 5/75 from the Mariners.

 

[the moops]

I think drew is gonna sign somewhere for like 3/33 or so.

but I see morales signing a similar deal as Cruz just got

 

[Eephus]

Giants sign Tyler Colvin and invite him to spring training. He'll get $1M if he makes the big club.

 

[dparker713]

I think drew is gonna sign somewhere for like 3/33 or so.

but I see morales signing a similar deal as Cruz just got

Why would anyone need to sign Drew for that much?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

2nd round pick to rent a guy for a year?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Giants sign Tyler Colvin and invite him to spring training. He'll get $1M if he makes the big club.

Watch yo back Mike Morse!!!!!!

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I think drew is gonna sign somewhere for like 3/33 or so.

but I see morales signing a similar deal as Cruz

just got

I will be amazed if Drew gets a 2 year deal , I can't see anyone giving him 3. The loss of a draft pick seems to have killed any market for him. I really only see the Yankees and Red Sox as landing spots. I would hate to see the Sox sign him for anything more than 1 year at 5-6M.

 

[Da Guru]

I think drew is gonna sign somewhere for like 3/33 or so.

but I see morales signing a similar deal as Cruz just got

Why would anyone need to sign Drew for that much?

Back to the RedSox at about the same price as last year?

 

[shadyridr]

So Yankees decided to break their whole no extensions policy on Brett gardner?

 

[Billy Bats]

Angels discussing 6/150 extension for Trout.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/source--angels--mike-trout-talking-monster-extension-184204188.html

 

[shadyridr]

Trout is worth it but that's crazy for a a 3rd yr player

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Angels discussing 6/150 extension for Trout.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/source--angels--mike-trout-talking-monster-extension-184204188.html

Three players taking up almost 100 million in payroll. Wow.

 

[Billy Bats]

Trout is worth it but that's crazy for a a 3rd yr player

Apparently some agents think it's a bargain.

@busterolney: View of some agents NOT involved in the Mike Trout talks: If the number doesn't begin with a '2' -- as in 200m+ -- it's light.

3:47pm - 23 Feb 14

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Has anyone seen arb. projections for Trout?

 

[Daywalker]

Has anyone seen arb. projections for Trout?

Think 15,20 and 25 are the ballpark figures.

 

[shadyridr]

I guess I just dont understand the point of extending Trout now. Why not just take advantage of a few more low salary years and then give him a monster deal towards the end of his arbitration eligible period?

 

[The Flying Elvis]

I guess I just dont understand the point of extending Trout now. Why not just take advantage of a few more low salary years and then give him a monster deal towards the end of his arbitration eligible period?

Because the closer he gets to the end of arbitration, the more likely he just decides to test free agency at the age of 26. If Trout gets even to say the last two years than there is no reason for him to really take an extension since he will get 20+ in arbitration anyways. Additionally prices are just going to continue to rise so you may be looking at a 26 year old Trout commanding 40-45M a year in FA and the Angels will probably not be able to outbid the Yankees or Dodgers.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

And if Boras steals him away, all talk of an extension will die, and he'll end up a Dodger.

 

[The Ref]

I guess I just dont understand the point of extending Trout now. Why not just take advantage of a few more low salary years and then give him a monster deal towards the end of his arbitration eligible period?

Because the closer he gets to the end of arbitration, the more likely he just decides to test free agency at the age of 26. If Trout gets even to say the last two years than there is no reason for him to really take an extension since he will get 20+ in arbitration anyways. Additionally prices are just going to continue to rise so you may be looking at a 26 year old Trout commanding 40-45M a year in FA and the Angels will probably not be able to outbid the Yankees or Dodgers.

Easy there......