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It depends on roster requirements, but I probably think you should keep Pablo and Cruz instead of Santana. Kennedy isn't in the same category as any of them, but Pence is close to Cruz. Just a matter of how much risk you want at that spot.
Not sure what the question is?Worley is DEFINITELY in the Phillies rotation
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Doesn't mean any of them are keeper worthy though.
Teheran. He'll be an easy cut if he doesn't have a hot start or he could be this year's Beachy. I think the rest of the league will catch up to Worley and he'll struggle. I don't see the upside in Aceves.
Definitely Bruce, you can play catch up in pitching as the draft goes on. Same can't be said for Bruce's combo of power and age. He's good for 30+ in a good batting spot and probably has a 40 HR season in him at some point in his career. Might steal a few bags too, but that may die off given his success rate.Besides, you already have an arm to build around. It isn't like you're going into the draft looking for your ace. Look for a combo of Beachy, Luebke, Garza, Zimmermann, etc. in a few rounds. You'll be fine.
Rasmus is intriguing to me, I've definitely thought about keeping him. All I keep hearing, for multiple seasons now, is that a bunch of Butler's doubles will become HR's. Don't know if that will ever happen, but if he comes a 30 homer guy, then he goes up a level.
I think Kendrick is a much better keeper than all of those guys. I'd also keep Rasmus over Hellickson. You may be able to flip Hell Boy into something nice pre keeper deadline too, I think he regresses big time this year.
I agree on Hellickson to an extent, he was somewhat lucky last year. But with starting 4 pitchers, I'm not thrilled about going into the draft with only one SP spot set with the most of the AL starters being the suck after the few top guys are kept.'MAC_32 said:
I like Hellboy better than Rasmus. Rasmus could be good. Hellboy is good. But I do think I like the idea of keeping Kendrick over Butler. Flip a coin as 2B is deep in the AL this year.
Do you think you can get one ofRomeroMaxMorrowPinedaand two of MastersonSaleFloydMcCarthyBakerKurodaColbyDanksIf so I think you can feel good dropping Hell Boy, I don't think he's much better than those guys, if at all. There are lots of good fliers available too. Feliz, Peacock, Henderson Alvarez, Ogando, Jarrod Parker, Noesi, Iwakuma, and Bard stick out. Get two of them and you should be good for the year.
Definitely Boesch.Do you have any other potential minor league keepers other than Cole? I think he'll be decent (eventually), but really lacks the ceiling I'd want in a 4th keeper - especially being a pitcher
Out of the first four, only Morrow is a definite, possibly Romero depending on who that team keeps. And the rest of your list will be in the draft. Out of them I like baker, Danks and Colby. My first round pick, i pick 4th out of 5 teams, I'm planning on grabbing Matt Moore for the long term keeper, he's stud material. Darvish could possibly be had there as well, but I like Moore first. So keeping Hellicksin while planning on drafting Moore probably isn't the greatest move either. Shields will also be available to draft as well.
Anymore opinions on this? I posted this on another board and a few people said Hosmer, some said Kennedy, MAC likes Bruce, and I like Moore. Quite the conundrum. FYI we can only keep for a max of 3 yrs.
Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
With all of those arms out there I think you can feel safe sending Hell Boy back...or packaging him in a trade.
One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
I'd take Hosmer. I think he's going to be a BEAST this year.
In a H2H pts league, I would go with the power in Bruce and Upton and keep Kennedy over Greinke. You have a good problem to figure out, isn't this the best time of the year??One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
Yea, after looking at his stats he wasn't even that good last year. Not sure why I was set on keeping him, he's not even a K pitcher.
Going to heed my own advice and keep the offense then take a gamble on SP's in the draft. Thanks for the discussion.
Kennedy is a 3.5-3.75 pitcher with a decent but not great K rate that is more likely to end the year with closer to 10 wins than what he got in 2011. Don't pay for last year's wins. Kennedy's good, but he's not great and that's how he's being valued this year.One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
I urge you to look at Hosmer's home HR totals last year. LH power gets sapped in KC and Hosmer is no exception. Let someone else pay the high price this year, try to buy low(er) next year.
Thanks, plus he's the homer pick! I could keep Chris Carter or Josh Bell over AJ Cole
ok I think youve convinced me to go with Bruce. However, regarding the scenario above would you rather have JUp for 3 yrs, Pence for 2yrs or JUp for 2 yrs, Bruce for 3 yrs?Kennedy is a 3.5-3.75 pitcher with a decent but not great K rate that is more likely to end the year with closer to 10 wins than what he got in 2011. Don't pay for last year's wins. Kennedy's good, but he's not great and that's how he's being valued this year.One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
Upton/penceok I think youve convinced me to go with Bruce. However, regarding the scenario above would you rather have JUp for 3 yrs, Pence for 2yrs or JUp for 2 yrs, Bruce for 3 yrs?Kennedy is a 3.5-3.75 pitcher with a decent but not great K rate that is more likely to end the year with closer to 10 wins than what he got in 2011. Don't pay for last year's wins. Kennedy's good, but he's not great and that's how he's being valued this year.One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
Wow. I almost forgot Baltimore Josh Bell existed! Yea, if those are your choices it's definitely Cole.
3 years of J Up.ok I think youve convinced me to go with Bruce. However, regarding the scenario above would you rather have JUp for 3 yrs, Pence for 2yrs or JUp for 2 yrs, Bruce for 3 yrs?Kennedy is a 3.5-3.75 pitcher with a decent but not great K rate that is more likely to end the year with closer to 10 wins than what he got in 2011. Don't pay for last year's wins. Kennedy's good, but he's not great and that's how he's being valued this year.One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
3 years of J Up.ok I think youve convinced me to go with Bruce. However, regarding the scenario above would you rather have JUp for 3 yrs, Pence for 2yrs or JUp for 2 yrs, Bruce for 3 yrs?Kennedy is a 3.5-3.75 pitcher with a decent but not great K rate that is more likely to end the year with closer to 10 wins than what he got in 2011. Don't pay for last year's wins. Kennedy's good, but he's not great and that's how he's being valued this year.One caveat that I forgot to add. I own Kennedy and Pence (either one would be my 6th keeper if we could keep 6). So I could keep Kennedy (or Pence) and draft JUp #1 overall adding a year of eligibility. Does that make more sense to do? Pence > Bruce right? Is Kennedy > Moore?Because of the 3 year rule, I might shy away from Moore and go with the definite production you will get from Bruce. You might only get a stellar year and a half from Moore vs 3 full years of Bruce.
Hosmer stuff is moot if you can get JUp for 3 years while keeping Pence.
Ellsbury and Bautista for sure. I lean Konerko for the 3rd. I'm assuming the top 5 1Bs get kept and it's ugly after Konerko goes. I'd rather just shore up 1B and leave yourself with plenty of options in the draft. It's easier to patch together a pitching staff than it is find a 1B that hits 30+ HR's with a good avg. that hits in the middle of the lineup.
If you're keeping a pitcher, its Halladay, not CC. I'd throw Holliday in the mix for that 3rd spot, especially if you start 5 OF.
Bautista/Ellsbury/Konerko Pitchers aren't usually keepable in H2H in my opinion?
I'm actually more comfortable with both Motte and Santos than Madson. As is I think you have the right keepers across the board...but there has to be some team out there that'd be willing to take on an Upton, Hellickson and/or Tex type. I'd be trying to find a way to upgrade a current position, move Hell Boy + Tex + Upton then keep Hosmer and Minor. I'd explore that option, but if there's nothing I'd send Upton over for Santos then drop Madson, keep Minor over Hell Boy, and given how strong your team is I'd gamble on Hosmer over Tex. Tex will be better this year, but you need to mix in some younger high ceiling keepers. I think you can still win with Hosmer instead of Tex, definitely will make it harder though.Sorry, I rambled.
Update, I can trade for Asdrubal(cheap) and keep him at SS instead of keeping Kendrick. What's the better move, Kendrick or Asdrubal?
*AHEM*Aaron Hill - 35/11/38/7/.302
I ended up getting Cain back at $25 but Gallardo and Wainwright along with a bevy of incompetent closers has set me back a ways. Already dealt Shields, Gallardo will be gone by the end of the week.
