2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (4 Viewers)

[sriki]

My:

1.3

for

His:

MJD and Miles Austin

full ppr

WTH? I would take MJD/Austin side in less than a heartbeat

 

[kutta]

My:

1.3

for

His:

MJD and Miles Austin

full ppr

WTH? I would take MJD/Austin side in less than a heartbeat

I agree. That's LOT for the 1.3

 

[cstu]

In our league pick 1.1 was just traded for Frank Gore and Kenny Britt.

I value Britt at the 1.05 so this seems like a fair trade. I would prefer the Britt/Gore side though.

 

[cstu]

Unbelievable huge deal as Cobb continues to make his way around in two of my three Dynasty Leagues.

PPR, QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex. One Flex can be a QB

Team India gives:

Harvin

Cobb

1.01

Team Juliet gives:

Julio

DMC

1.08

2014 1st (will be in the back half)

Cobb has been traded recently twice in each League !

I am neither Owner in this trade above, a blockbuster.

Since it's a superflex I'd take the Harvin, Cobb, 1.01 side.

Since it's superflex I think it's even better for the Julio side.

How so? The 1.01 would be Geno for me, I guess it depends on what you think of him.

 

[squistion]

In our league pick 1.1 was just traded for Frank Gore and Kenny Britt.

Aging RB with injury/other issues potential stud WR for 1.1. Interesting trade since it could blow up on the face for the owner trading away britt/gore. I would rather be the one receiving the two players

I wouldn't. I would take the 1.01 any day over a combo of a RB turning 30 this year and a knucklehead WR with elite talent. Yeah, maybe Britt gets his head together (ala Brandon Marshall) and maybe Gore has another 2 good years left in him. But I would prefer to roll the dice with the my pick of the rookie class.

 

[sriki]

In our league pick 1.1 was just traded for Frank Gore and Kenny Britt.

Aging RB with injury/other issues potential stud WR for 1.1. Interesting trade since it could blow up on the face for the owner trading away britt/gore. I would rather be the one receiving the two players

I wouldn't. I would take the 1.01 any day over a combo of a RB turning 30 this year and a knucklehead WR with elite talent. Yeah, maybe Britt gets his head together (ala Brandon Marshall) and maybe Gore has another 2 good years left in him. But I would prefer to roll the dice with the my pick of the rookie class.

When there is no RB/WR/QB that's a clear cut stud like last year, it's difficult for me to "roll the dice" when there is an established stud with 1 or 2 years and an elite receiver talent who has issues. You would have to get really lucky to get a stud player with no issues int this draft esp if you made this trade pre-NFL draft

 

[JPeso]

Unbelievable huge deal as Cobb continues to make his way around in two of my three Dynasty Leagues.

PPR, QRRWWTKD + 2 Flex. One Flex can be a QB

Team India gives:

Harvin

Cobb

1.01

Team Juliet gives:

Julio

DMC

1.08

2014 1st (will be in the back half)

Cobb has been traded recently twice in each League !

I am neither Owner in this trade above, a blockbuster.

Since it's a superflex I'd take the Harvin, Cobb, 1.01 side.

Since it's superflex I think it's even better for the Julio side.

How so? The 1.01 would be Geno for me, I guess it depends on what you think of him.

I like Geno fine, but it also means that the 1.8 is going to essentially be the WR2 or RB2 in the class, as I'd expect at least one, maybe two more QB to go in the first 7 picks.

 

[JPeso]

In our league pick 1.1 was just traded for Frank Gore and Kenny Britt.

Aging RB with injury/other issues potential stud WR for 1.1. Interesting trade since it could blow up on the face for the owner trading away britt/gore. I would rather be the one receiving the two players

I wouldn't. I would take the 1.01 any day over a combo of a RB turning 30 this year and a knucklehead WR with elite talent. Yeah, maybe Britt gets his head together (ala Brandon Marshall) and maybe Gore has another 2 good years left in him. But I would prefer to roll the dice with the my pick of the rookie class.

I would go 1.1 easily as well.

 

[JPeso]

My:

1.3

for

His:

MJD and Miles Austin

full ppr

WTH? I would take MJD/Austin side in less than a heartbeat

I agree. That's LOT for the 1.3

Seems pretty cheap to me.

 

[JPeso]

Team A gave: Ray Rice, Shonn Greene

Team B gave: Ramses Barden, Michael Crabtree, 2013 1.03

ETA: 12 team PPR, start 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex RB/WR

I'd want a bit more than Crab/1.3 if dealing Ray.

 

[replacements]

Team A gives Chris Ivory

Team B gives 2013 1.06

 

[Rolling_akg]

Team A gives Chris IvoryTeam B gives 2013 1.06

Wow that's a haul for a guy that hadn't left new Orleans yet

 

[Slider]

In our league pick 1.1 was just traded for Frank Gore and Kenny Britt.

Aging RB with injury/other issues potential stud WR for 1.1. Interesting trade since it could blow up on the face for the owner trading away britt/gore. I would rather be the one receiving the two players

I wouldn't. I would take the 1.01 any day over a combo of a RB turning 30 this year and a knucklehead WR with elite talent. Yeah, maybe Britt gets his head together (ala Brandon Marshall) and maybe Gore has another 2 good years left in him. But I would prefer to roll the dice with the my pick of the rookie class.

I would go 1.1 easily as well.

Yep me too.

 

[gianmarco]

Team A gives Chris IvoryTeam B gives 2013 1.06

Lol

 

[ghostguy123]

In our league pick 1.1 was just traded for Frank Gore and Kenny Britt.

I will take Gore/Britt, and probably try and deal Gore. I think if Gore netted you a 2014 1st from a team that is middle of the pack, would be good for me.

 

[ghostguy123]

My:

1.3

for

His:

MJD and Miles Austin

full ppr

umm,. seriously?? You robbed him

 

[ghostguy123]

Team A gives Chris Ivory

Team B gives 2013 1.06

Ouch. Pick 16 maybe, MAYBE. Pick 6???

 

[thriftyrocker]

Team A gives Chris IvoryTeam B gives 2013 1.06

Lol

Not too far off if the real life trade goes down, IMO. I certainly wouldn't trade him for a 2nd.

 

[jtd13]

Team A gives Chris IvoryTeam B gives 2013 1.06

Lol

Not too far off if the real life trade goes down, IMO. I certainly wouldn't trade him for a 2nd.

Agreed. I wouldn't trade him for less than 12 right now because the trade is looking very likely. I think his value is probably around 1.05/1.06 if he does get traded, so I don't understand trading for him at that value when it hasn't happened yet.

 

[humpback]

Second Trade:

Gave: M. Ingram, 2.2, 3.2

Got: James Jones

Don't think Jones is a long term, high end asset... That being said, Ingram isn't either, and I like Ingram more than most here. You needed WR help badly though, so I probably would have made a similar move. You would expect Jones to remain a end-WR2 with Jennings gone.

I would rather have Ingram than Jones in standard scoring.

In a vacuum, but a WR corp of DJax/Shorts/old and mediocre needs something in a league where you have to start 3 if not 4 WRs.

I wouldn't have targeted Jones is the issue here.

I tired various other packages to get another WR but got no where with the offers. With the ability to start up to 4 wr's I know this is my weakest area. I have never been high on Ingram and am willing to take the gamble on Jones

How many teams in the league? The problem I have with it is that, unless this is a very large league, I don't think your team is very competitive even after the deals. You traded away quite a few decent, young prospects and picks. I think the value you got overall was good (besides Jones probably), but you may have been better served sticking with what you had for your rebuild.

It's a 12 team league; and being able to start 4 wr's every game the majority of owners have between 8-12 wr's rostered. The top wr available (just dropped with draft coming up) is Santana Moss (#48 scoring wr) Where James Jones finished #17 in wr scoring.

Maybe I am a little higher on J. Jones than most but he was on the field for 91% of the offensive plays; final 3 games of reg season & 2 playoff games he had 26rec, 360yds, and 6 tds. I am willing to gamble on him over Ingram (who prob will never start for me over Rice, R. Bush/Leshoure, & BJGE) & (esp since Ivory just signed his tender and I think will push Ingram down to 4th rb in a pass happy offense IMHO)

I think I'm looking at this from a longer term perspective than you are. Your team is certainly a lot better now after the trades, but I still don't think it's winning any championships (guys like Rice, Bush, and Witten are much better in a ppr). I know teams can start 4 WRs, but in a non-ppr, I'd assume most teams would try to start a 3rd RB at flex if they can.

FWIW, it still looks likely that Ivory ends up getting traded, but I'm not overly high on Ingram or the other guys you dealt away either. I'm just thinking your team is still rebuilding for another year or two, so you may have been better off rolling the dice that a couple of those younger guys and picks pan out because guys like Rice and Witten are probably only going to lose value from here.

That being said, you could always try to turn around and deal them to a contender if you get off to a bad start or something- you did get good value for the most part.

 

[Kree]

12 team PPR/Return/IDP All TDs 6 points/40 man rosters

QB/RB/RB/RB-WR/WR/WR/TE/SuperFlex/SuperFlex/LB/LB/DL/DL/DB/DB/K

Team A sends 2014 1st

Team B sends Ben Tate

I'm team A. big Tate fan, and I'm semi-confident the 1st should be relatively late.

My team post-trade off the top of my head

QB - Kaepernick/Roethlisberger/Hoyer

RB - Rice/TRichardson/Stewart/Tate/Ivory/DRichardson

WR - Calvin/Nicks/Jennings/VBrown/Sanders/Baldwin

TE - Witten/Cook/Bennett

LB - DJohnson/Lee/Timmons

DL - Ninkovich/Quinn/MBennett/Houston/Morgan

DB - Barber/Webb/Verner

K - Crosby

Not 100% on my IDP lineup (ESPN is down at the moment), and I have another RB somewhere.

I've got the 1.06 which I may flip, but I'm confident in it's value rising as we get closer to our and the draft. Wouldn't mind moving up aggressively and nabbing Geno, though I'm not confident I have the pieces to do it.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

terrible no matter what. Ivory is a #2 rb on the Jets at best.

Team A gives Chris IvoryTeam B gives 2013 1.06

Lol

Not too far off if the real life trade goes down, IMO. I certainly wouldn't trade him for a 2nd.

Its horrible no matter what. Ivory is 2nd to Goodson and a will never the receptions. He's insurance to Goodson at best. This is why N.o. cant even get a 4th.

If Jets viewed this guy as a starter a 4th would be gone .

 

[Concept Coop]

terrible no matter what. Ivory is a #2 rb on the Jets at best.

Team A gives Chris IvoryTeam B gives 2013 1.06

Lol

Not too far off if the real life trade goes down, IMO. I certainly wouldn't trade him for a 2nd.

Its horrible no matter what. Ivory is 2nd to Goodson and a will never the receptions. He's insurance to Goodson at best. This is why N.o. cant even get a 4th.

If Jets viewed this guy as a starter a 4th would be gone .

I don't like the trade, but I disagree with most of what you said. The sample sizes are small, but I'd bet on Ivory winning the job. He's clearly more than insurance for Goodson.

And the Jets not wlling to trade a 4th rounder for him doesn't mean much. The veteran NFL RB doesn't have much value, draft pick wise. They could certainly expect him to start, but not be willing to give a 4th. They could have 3-5 guys in the draft that they could see starting, or competing, at least, and if Ivory costs a 4th, they could potentially rather go that route.

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team PPR with RB/WR/TE flex

1.1

2014 2nd (mid?)

Greg Little

for

1.2

2014 1st (early?)

 

[EBF]

12 team PPR with RB/WR/TE flex

1.1

2014 2nd (mid?)

Greg Little

for

1.2

2014 1st (early?)

1.02 side in a landslide for me.

 

[maxhyde]

My:

1.3

for

His:

MJD and Miles Austin

full ppr

Do it

 

[JamboTaylor]

1.3

for

M.Bennett

1.07

 

[Concept Coop]

1.3

for

M.Bennett

1.07

Assuming this isn't a TE heavy league, I'd take the 1.03. The draft is deep, but I think 3-4 stand out enough to justify losing Bennett.

 

[JPeso]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TE

Team A gives A Peterson

Team B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

 

[Mimo]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

Blackmon was already expensive, AP a lot to give. The new Blackmon owner must think he'll be top 5-10 overall in dynasty real soon.

 

[solorca]

Gave - 1.07, 2014 2nd, Santana Moss (was going to be a drop)

Received - Stevie Johnson

Ppr league.

I am highee than most on Stevie, but I was happy with the deal regardless.

 

[cstu]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

Blackmon was already expensive, AP a lot to give. The new Blackmon owner must think he'll be top 5-10 overall in dynasty real soon.

I was the one trading for AP. I already had Blackmon in my top dynasty 10 WR's so really that's what it was going to take to pry him from me. As for his side, you really have to see his team to understand why it makes sense. He'll still be a top playoff team even without AP.

 

[cstu]

Gave - 1.07, 2014 2nd, Santana Moss (was going to be a drop)Received - Stevie JohnsonPpr league.I am highee than most on Stevie, but I was happy with the deal regardless.

I'm not that high on him but it's still a good price.

 

[kutta]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

That seems really cheap for Peterson. I'm not as high on Blackmon as others are though.

 

[kutta]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

I posted a similar trade above, where I was the Rice owner:

Gave: Ray Rice, Shonn Greene

Got: Crabtree, 1.03, Barden

 

[JPeso]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

Blackmon was already expensive, AP a lot to give. The new Blackmon owner must think he'll be top 5-10 overall in dynasty real soon.

I was the one trading for AP. I already had Blackmon in my top dynasty 10 WR's so really that's what it was going to take to pry him from me. As for his side, you really have to see his team to understand why it makes sense. He'll still be a top playoff team even without AP.

I am feeling pretty light after this one. Got to count on one of Blackmon/Britt now on a weekly basis. That is assuming DMC plays 16. Hopefully one of these RBs gets drafted nicely so I at least have a short-term option there to back up my Spiller/DMC.

And for reference, cstu milked me! I only asked for Blackmon/1.10 in the initial offer and he rejected and countered with the deal that was made.

 

[solorca]

Man, I like Blackmon, but it seems like AP should have went for a lot more than that.

Then again, I spent weeks shopping him in the one league I own him, and the interest I received was minimal.

I did finally trade him for Forte/Torrey smith, but that was really the only decent offer I received.

 

[Ernol]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

That seems really cheap for Peterson. I'm not as high on Blackmon as others are though.

Its a 1RB min league. In those leagues, I would go heavy WR and have 1 maybe 2 decent RBs (really don't like RBs in this format). Sounds like JPeso already has Spiller, so having Peterson as well is a little heavy on RB that are 26/28. I'd want a little more for the ADP name alone, but in terms of overall value, this trade makes sense to me.

 

[EBF]

Yea, that's the same format where I gave up Rodgers/Jennings for Blackmon/Mathews. With just one required RB spot and up to four spots for WRs, I think the best approach in those leagues is to load up your WR corps. If you can roll out 3-4 top 15 receivers every week, you'll probably have a winning record as long as you're just average everywhere else.

I think Peterson is maybe a little overrated this year whereas Blackmon is one of the few guys who obviously has the potential to maybe knock on the door of that top young WR tier. Bit of a gamble, but the back end of the deal probably favors the Blackmon side. In two years you'll wish you could trade AP for someone like Blackmon.

 

[cstu]

Yea, that's the same format where I gave up Rodgers/Jennings for Blackmon/Mathews. With just one required RB spot and up to four spots for WRs, I think the best approach in those leagues is to load up your WR corps. If you can roll out 3-4 top 15 receivers every week, you'll probably have a winning record as long as you're just average everywhere else.

I think Peterson is maybe a little overrated this year whereas Blackmon is one of the few guys who obviously has the potential to maybe knock on the door of that top young WR tier. Bit of a gamble, but the back end of the deal probably favors the Blackmon side. In two years you'll wish you could trade AP for someone like Blackmon.

True, but I hope in two years I've actually won something. Gore was my only other legit back so even in a 1RB league it was a need.

 

[ExaltedOne]

• Team M gave up Year 2013 Draft Pick 1.07
• Team N gave up Ivory, Christopher NOS RB; Year 2013 Draft Pick 2.09

I wasnt involved. This trade really blows my mind. I own Goodson in this league and haven't gotten a single offer.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Jimmy graham

2014 1st and 2nd round pick (likely late)

For

Aaron Hernandez

Michael Floyd

 

[thriftyrocker]

Jimmy graham2014 1st and 2nd round pick (likely late)ForAaron HernandezMichael Floyd

Picks on the wrong side

 

[ghostguy123]

Jimmy graham2014 1st and 2nd round pick (likely late)ForAaron HernandezMichael Floyd

Picks on the wrong side

Definitely.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

This is a classic example of someone taking the best offer they could get for a guy (Peterson)...................but it's APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why be in a rush to sell low in April?

 

[gianmarco]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

This is a classic example of someone taking the best offer they could get for a guy (Peterson)...................but it's APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why be in a rush to sell low in April?

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

 

[ghostguy123]

12 Team PPR, with 1 QB, 1-4 RB, 1-4 WR, 1-4 TETeam A gives A PetersonTeam B gives J Blackmon + 1.12

This is a classic example of someone taking the best offer they could get for a guy (Peterson)...................but it's APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why be in a rush to sell low in April?

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

If Blackmon is truly your "I must have this guy" player................then fine.

However, it IS selling low based on market value, which as you said is irrelevant if you are going after a guy you want, and only that guy.

I also disagree that Blackmon will outscore Peterson in 2014 and beyond. I say AP is still scoring more in 2015, and that is even if the Jags get a competent QB.

But if that league has 11 other owners that dont want to pay for AP, then I guess Peso is just super unlucky. Or maybe every other knows that Peso 99.999% of the time gos for the younger player, so they held out for a good deal. Looks like someone got it.

 

[matttyl]

10 team IDP league (fairly basic non PPG scoring) start 1 qb, 1 rb, 2 wrs, 2 flex, 1 te, 1 k, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db

Traded away Crabtree (have Calvin, D Thomas, Nicks, V Jax, J Gordon)

Received #11 pick this year, Luke Kuechly, and 2015 1st round pick

*then moved D'Qwell Jackson (who became expendable) for #18 rookie pick

 

[Warhogs]

Trade completed last night. I thought this was a pretty cheap price to pay for Gronkowski.

New Orleans Saints gave up:Gronkowski, Rob NEP TEWeatherspoon, Sean ATL LBAtlanta Falcons gave up:Broyles, Ryan DET WRKuechly, Luke CAR LBYear 2013 Draft Pick 1.04Year 2013 Draft Pick 5.01

 

[Concept Coop]

No, this is actually a classic of example of being willing to pay for a player you like and believe in. Again, the value of a player is determined by the league. I'm in this league and I'm quite sure that Peso has been trying to sell AP for a while now. It's not about what he might be able to get later. It's more about Blackmon and what his value might continue to do. His owner valued him as a top 10 WR (as do I and many others) and was not going to sell him without a significant payment. This was the kind of offer it would take to get Blackmon and there's nothing wrong at all with paying that if it's a player you want to own. Factor in that each of these player's values are going in the opposite direction and it made more sense to do it now. If Jax actually obtains a QB, then Blackmon's value goes even higher.

And while the near consensus here is that AP should have fetched far more, not only do I disagree with that, but getting the pick was a huge bonus to me as I would pay AP straight up for Blackmon without thinking twice. Just goes to show the variability in owner's valuations of players. I don't see AP outscoring Blackmon beyond this year in a 1 ppr format when Peterson will be close to 30 in 2014 and Blackmon will be hitting his prime. With it being a 1 RB start league, RB scarcity isn't as important.

I actually agree with this. The format is huge. It's a start 1 league - meaning, you have to start comparing positions across the board, and not just within position. Meaning, Brandon Marshall should be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, if not more. He's less likely to miss time due to injury, and more likely to last into his 30's, due to the positions that they play. In the meantime, he's likely to score on pace with Peterson. The advantage that Peterson gets for being a RB is largely tossed out the window.

If Blackmon is a top 10 WR - and that's a logical stance - this is a fair trade.