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*** 2013 Official Pittsburgh Steelers Off & ON Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

The Steelers have re-signed inside linebacker Stevenson Sylvester and released Kion Wilson.

Sylvester was a fifth-round pick in 2010 who was released in August after being a backup and special-teams player with the Steelers.

Wilson, a third-year free agent, was the starter in Week 2 after veteran Larry Foote suffered a season-ending triceps injury. But he has been passed by rookie Vince Williams, who started the most recent game against the Vikings.

 
Steeler homers - So is Heath Miller a safe start as a flex every week in PPR leagues that allow TE at flex positions? The stat line looked solid against Minny and he has had one week more to heal. Given we know Ben loves him and he is the #1 target in the red zone, the upside is huge here. Just wanted to know what the eye ball test said. Since you guys watch the Steelers, is Heath back to expect the solid consistent production we had last year?

 
Sweetness_34 said:
Steeler homers - So is Heath Miller a safe start as a flex every week in PPR leagues that allow TE at flex positions? The stat line looked solid against Minny and he has had one week more to heal. Given we know Ben loves him and he is the #1 target in the red zone, the upside is huge here. Just wanted to know what the eye ball test said. Since you guys watch the Steelers, is Heath back to expect the solid consistent production we had last year?
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As long as he and Ben stay healthy I would say yes.

 
Steelers signed S Will Allen. Nothing to get excited about but Allen had a pretty good year last season and was surprised the Stellers didn't bring him back. Not sure why he was released by the Cowboys but it can't hurt to add him.

 
Godsbrother said:
Steelers signed S Will Allen. Nothing to get excited about but Allen had a pretty good year last season and was surprised the Stellers didn't bring him back. Not sure why he was released by the Cowboys but it can't hurt to add him.
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Keep bringing back guys, Colbert. :rolleyes:

 
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Leeroy Jenkins said:
Godsbrother said:
Steelers signed S Will Allen. Nothing to get excited about but Allen had a pretty good year last season and was surprised the Stellers didn't bring him back. Not sure why he was released by the Cowboys but it can't hurt to add him.
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Keep bringing back guys, Colbert. :rolleyes:
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What else do you want him to do six weeks into the season? There aren't a whole lot of options...

 
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Godsbrother said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Godsbrother said:
Steelers signed S Will Allen. Nothing to get excited about but Allen had a pretty good year last season and was surprised the Stellers didn't bring him back. Not sure why he was released by the Cowboys but it can't hurt to add him.
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Keep bringing back guys, Colbert. :rolleyes:
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What else do you want him to do six weeks into the season? There aren't a whole lot of options...
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Exactly. Wilson and Cromartie-Smith were dinged up and play(ed) a ton on special teams. Sylvester and Allen are better players. Key question is can Sylvester stay healthy.

 
Nice win today. D played well. Finally.

And it sounds like Sean Spence will start practicing this week. :towelwave: They'll then have 3 weeks to either activate or IR him.

 
Maybe they make a turnaround. Jets are a decent team. I actually went out to run errands and missed part of the 2nd quarter and most of the 2nd half. Ive never done that during a Steelers game before, so that's where my interest level is at this point.

It was nice having Cowher as one of the announcers.

 
Kenny Powers said:
Maybe they make a turnaround. Jets are a decent team. I actually went out to run errands and missed part of the 2nd quarter and most of the 2nd half. Ive never done that during a Steelers game before, so that's where my interest level is at this point.

It was nice having Cowher as one of the announcers.
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Like me, I quit posting in this ####### accursed off-season thread, and we got a win.... oh wait, god damn it.

 
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Oh, and the Steelers career of Levi Brown might be over before it even started.
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I realize he wasn't the most popular pick up but damn it shows how bad the injury bug has befallen on this team and continues to. The injury came so late in warm-ups that the Steelers could not even activate Mike Adams. It is a good thing no one else on the line was hurt yesterday.

So the Steelers are down another OT so I wonder if they call their old friend Max Starks to add some depth. I don't think the Steelers (or Chargers or Rams) believe he has anything left but he is a body (a rather large one).

Keisel's injury (ribs) is not expected to be serious but David Johnson's wrist/hand might be. That guy is must be made of porcelain.

It is hard to believe that a 1-4 team is favored over the reigning SB champs but that is what I heard coming in today. I am guessing the line is going to shift a bit this week.

 
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Appears the "conditional pick" part of the Brown trade is now null since he was not active for enough games. :silverlining:

 
Godsbrother said:
3C said:
Oh, and the Steelers career of Levi Brown might be over before it even started.
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I realize he wasn't the most popular pick up but damn it shows how bad the injury bug has befallen on this team and continues to. The injury came so late in warm-ups that the Steelers could not even activate Mike Adams. It is a good thing no one else on the line was hurt yesterday.

So the Steelers are down another OT so I wonder if they call their old friend Max Starks to add some depth. I don't think the Steelers (or Chargers or Rams) believe he has anything left but he is a body (a rather large one).

Keisel's injury (ribs) is not expected to be serious but David Johnson's wrist/hand might be. That guy is must be made of porcelain.

It is hard to believe that a 1-4 team is favored over the reigning SB champs but that is what I heard coming in today. I am guessing the line is going to shift a bit this week.
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apparently they are not calling him

 
infantsam said:
Godsbrother said:
3C said:
Oh, and the Steelers career of Levi Brown might be over before it even started.
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I realize he wasn't the most popular pick up but damn it shows how bad the injury bug has befallen on this team and continues to. The injury came so late in warm-ups that the Steelers could not even activate Mike Adams. It is a good thing no one else on the line was hurt yesterday.

So the Steelers are down another OT so I wonder if they call their old friend Max Starks to add some depth. I don't think the Steelers (or Chargers or Rams) believe he has anything left but he is a body (a rather large one).

Keisel's injury (ribs) is not expected to be serious but David Johnson's wrist/hand might be. That guy is must be made of porcelain.

It is hard to believe that a 1-4 team is favored over the reigning SB champs but that is what I heard coming in today. I am guessing the line is going to shift a bit this week.
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apparently they are not calling him
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It doesn't surprise me. The Steelers coaching staff wasn't too enamored with Max and he has already been cut by the Chargers and Rams this season. I suppose the Steelers would almost have to call him if another OT goes down but until that happens it is better for the Steelers and Starks to have him remain a FA.

 
Sean Spence: "I know I am going to beat the odds"

Steelers linebacker Sean Spence probably has every cliche memorized by now. Facing insurmountable odds with his back against the wall, all hope seemingly lost, he's standing toe-to-toe with his adversary, not turning away, ready to take on what's next.

And so on.

That's what gives Spence's story such a warm buzz. In many ways, he can say the hard part is over. Spence's focus is going to be more on regaining his football legs rather than his surgically-repaired knee.

The team confirmed Spence will practice Wednesday for the first official time since tearing his ACL in a preaseason game against the Carolina Panthers in 2012. he has a three-week window that opens Wednesday and remains opened for three weeks before the Steelers are forced to make a decision on him. He can be added to the roster any time in that window.

Add that to the list of things Spence shouldn't worry about, he'll be added to the roster, and the Steelers will make a move to accomodate that. It's perhaps a bit premature to think he'll dress up against the Ravens in Week 7, but Week 8 at Oakland isn't out of the question.

What a return it will be. However it goes, though, Spence seems already past that part, and onto worrying about how he can contribute to the team.
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http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/10/15/4841976/steelers-sean-spence-practice-roster-active-pup-list-rules-nfl

Seems like a very overly-optimistic report to me. Dale Lolley was saying the Steelers coaching staff don't think he has a chance to play this year.

Still he seems like a good guy that got a nasty break, I am hoping to see him play again -- if not this year then next.

 
Why does everyone seem to think Sean Spence is the second coming of Lambert? While he has a decent pedigree, the guy hasn't played a down of NFL ball yet, in any meaningful game. And he has had a very bad injury, to boot. People in the local sports media (Dulac), and others, as well as people in this forum seem to be implying this. I don't get it.

 
Copeman said:
Why does everyone seem to think Sean Spence is the second coming of Lambert? While he has a decent pedigree, the guy hasn't played a down of NFL ball yet, in any meaningful game. And he has had a very bad injury, to boot. People in the local sports media (Dulac), and others, as well as people in this forum seem to be implying this. I don't get it.
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:shrug: Don't remember anyone saying they think Spence is the second coming of anything. He was a high round draft pick that some of us would like to see overcome a major knee injury and enjoy a career in the NFL.

If wanting that is wrong, I don't want to be right.

 
Godsbrother said:
Copeman said:
Why does everyone seem to think Sean Spence is the second coming of Lambert? While he has a decent pedigree, the guy hasn't played a down of NFL ball yet, in any meaningful game. And he has had a very bad injury, to boot. People in the local sports media (Dulac), and others, as well as people in this forum seem to be implying this. I don't get it.
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:shrug: Don't remember anyone saying they think Spence is the second coming of anything. He was a high round draft pick that some of us would like to see overcome a major knee injury and enjoy a career in the NFL.

If wanting that is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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Maybe I am taking some of these posts out of context then, or mis-reading what some in the media have said. For example, as noted above, Dulac is all over his jock. From his chat transcript:

When discussing FA next year he says "If Spence returns to form, Foote will probably be let go, too."

Returns to form???? We haven't even seen any "form" from Spence yet.

And also, when discussing LB Williams, he says "I agree. I like him. He is aggressive and attacks the line. Sure, he makes mistakes and gets out of position, but I think he has a chance to be decent. But he's not Sean Spence."

See where I am going with all of this?

 
If Spence was 6' 2" 245 instead of 5' 11" 225, he would have been a top 15 pick. He has brilliant instincts, flies to the ball, can pursue, can cover, makes splash plays. He's a terrific football player. As I said when they drafted him, I'm just not 100% sure how he fits in this defense, to me he seems best suited to play the 4-3 Will, but I trust LeBeau here. He's going to be very effective (if he recovers all of his speed) if blockers don't get to him and he can flow to the ball and cover backs/TEs/slot guys. If he gets caught up and has to fight off blocks to make plays, I don't know that he has the strength to shed.

 
Copeman said:
Godsbrother said:
Copeman said:
Why does everyone seem to think Sean Spence is the second coming of Lambert? While he has a decent pedigree, the guy hasn't played a down of NFL ball yet, in any meaningful game. And he has had a very bad injury, to boot. People in the local sports media (Dulac), and others, as well as people in this forum seem to be implying this. I don't get it.
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:shrug: Don't remember anyone saying they think Spence is the second coming of anything. He was a high round draft pick that some of us would like to see overcome a major knee injury and enjoy a career in the NFL.

If wanting that is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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Maybe I am taking some of these posts out of context then, or mis-reading what some in the media have said. For example, as noted above, Dulac is all over his jock. From his chat transcript:

When discussing FA next year he says "If Spence returns to form, Foote will probably be let go, too."

Returns to form???? We haven't even seen any "form" from Spence yet.

And also, when discussing LB Williams, he says "I agree. I like him. He is aggressive and attacks the line. Sure, he makes mistakes and gets out of position, but I think he has a chance to be decent. But he's not Sean Spence."

See where I am going with all of this?
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It was from what we saw of him in camp. He flashed serious skills and is better than any option they currently have if he returns to form the skill level and athletic ability he had pre injury.

 
Copeman said:
Godsbrother said:
Copeman said:
Why does everyone seem to think Sean Spence is the second coming of Lambert? While he has a decent pedigree, the guy hasn't played a down of NFL ball yet, in any meaningful game. And he has had a very bad injury, to boot. People in the local sports media (Dulac), and others, as well as people in this forum seem to be implying this. I don't get it.
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:shrug: Don't remember anyone saying they think Spence is the second coming of anything. He was a high round draft pick that some of us would like to see overcome a major knee injury and enjoy a career in the NFL.

If wanting that is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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Maybe I am taking some of these posts out of context then, or mis-reading what some in the media have said. For example, as noted above, Dulac is all over his jock. From his chat transcript:

When discussing FA next year he says "If Spence returns to form, Foote will probably be let go, too."

Returns to form???? We haven't even seen any "form" from Spence yet.

And also, when discussing LB Williams, he says "I agree. I like him. He is aggressive and attacks the line. Sure, he makes mistakes and gets out of position, but I think he has a chance to be decent. But he's not Sean Spence."

See where I am going with all of this?
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I don't think you'd have to be the next Jack Lambert to convince the Steelers to move on from Foote, who they've already moved on from once or twice, and will now be even older, even slower, and recovering from a major arm injury to boot. :shrug:

 
This is probably the least-hyped Ravens-Steelers week I can remember. Other than Week 1 match-ups, I wonder when is the last time neither of these teams had a winning record when they met.

I look for the Steelers to win. Ravens can't get out of their own way on offense and will be hard-pressed to score more than 13 points.

 
I just looked up the answer to my question. Other than when they've played each other in Week 1, the last time the Ravens and Steelers played with neither team above .500 was Week 7 in 2002. Steelers won that battle of 3-3 teams, 31-18.

 
One more fact - Steelers and Ravens have played one game ever in which both teams entered the game with losing records: Week 14 of the 1999 season, both teams were 5-7 when they played.

 
The_Man said:
This is probably the least-hyped Ravens-Steelers week I can remember. Other than Week 1 match-ups, I wonder when is the last time neither of these teams had a winning record when they met.

I look for the Steelers to win. Ravens can't get out of their own way on offense and will be hard-pressed to score more than 13 points.
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I'll state the obvious: this game could go either way. The winner will be the team that has fewer turnovers.

 
Fun game. Was up off my seat most of the last quarter.

Another OLineman goes down. :( How bad is it for Adams to have Whimper be the next man up when Gilbert went down?

 
Godsbrother said:
The_Man said:
This is probably the least-hyped Ravens-Steelers week I can remember. Other than Week 1 match-ups, I wonder when is the last time neither of these teams had a winning record when they met.

I look for the Steelers to win. Ravens can't get out of their own way on offense and will be hard-pressed to score more than 13 points.
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I'll state the obvious: this game could go either way. The winner will be the team that has fewer turnovers.
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It feels great to be wrong although that poorly executed onside kick sure seemed like a turnover

 
3C said:
Fun game. Was up off my seat most of the last quarter.

Another OLineman goes down. :( How bad is it for Adams to have Whimper be the next man up when Gilbert went down?
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That said, Whimper did play surprisingly well. No penalties (in fact only Gilbert had a penalty among the Oline) and pretty much shut down Dumervil. And Beachum is looking to make it really hard for Adams to get back in there as well short of injury. Maybe we finally have an Oline.

Oh, and where's the naysayers? Awful quiet from the "fire everybody" camp!

 
Very curious to see how they play Oakland this weekend. A team that they have not played well against as of late, in the black hole, coming off a bye, and the Pats on the radar for the following week. Will tell alot about the team, in my opinion.

 
I think Haley deserves some props here too. Looks like he is working hard at ways to make the offense fit the personnel. Adding Weaton to the mix going forward can only help too.

 
3C said:
3C said:
Fun game. Was up off my seat most of the last quarter.

Another OLineman goes down. :( How bad is it for Adams to have Whimper be the next man up when Gilbert went down?
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That said, Whimper did play surprisingly well. No penalties (in fact only Gilbert had a penalty among the Oline) and pretty much shut down Dumervil. And Beachum is looking to make it really hard for Adams to get back in there as well short of injury. Maybe we finally have an Oline.

Oh, and where's the naysayers? Awful quiet from the "fire everybody" camp!
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The whole OL had a great game, DeCastro starting to live up to 1st rd billing as well.

 
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I think Haley deserves some props here too. Looks like he is working hard at ways to make the offense fit the personnel. Adding Weaton to the mix going forward can only help too.
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Agreed, play calling was pretty good yesterday! (I thought so atleast)

 
AhrnCityPahnder said:
Isaac Redman cut this afternoon, Kion Wilson signed from the PS back to the regular roster.
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Not surprised by this, bell/jones entrenched as 1-2 and Dwyer has played really inspired in limited action. Meanwhile redman had a very rough start and admitted he played with a concussion vs cincy

Redman was great past few seasons but between fumbles, injuries and the concussion thing, not surprised he was shown the door - he'll latch on with nyg or hou

 
I said when the Steelers broke camp that they cut the wrong RB. Redman had his moments but they were becoming few and far between and really did nothing at all during camp, preseason and in limited play this season.

The fact that he had been a healthy scratch for the past couple weeks made it apparent the coaches were done with him.

 
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I said when the Steelers broke camp that they cut the wrong RB. Redman had his moments but they were becoming few and far between and really did nothing at all during camp, preseason and in limited play this season.

The fact that he had been a healthy scratch for the past couple weeks made it apparent the coaches were done with him.
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Same here. Apparently, reading the tea leaves, it had to do with off the field stuff.

Anyone think after his impressive return they give Sanders more opportunities at returns? Fear of him getting hurt (esp with Wheaton out)?

 
3C said:
Godsbrother said:
I said when the Steelers broke camp that they cut the wrong RB. Redman had his moments but they were becoming few and far between and really did nothing at all during camp, preseason and in limited play this season.

The fact that he had been a healthy scratch for the past couple weeks made it apparent the coaches were done with him.
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Same here. Apparently, reading the tea leaves, it had to do with off the field stuff.

Anyone think after his impressive return they give Sanders more opportunities at returns? Fear of him getting hurt (esp with Wheaton out)?
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I think they should have Manny back there. At this point I don't think fear of injury should be a concern. They need to win now and should be putting the best players on the field wherever and whenever they can. Also I think Wheaton should probably be ready to come back this week.

 
Depth Chart Changes:

CB William Gay now listed as Co-Starter at CB with Cortez Allen.

Well deserved IMHO, Gay was phenomenal on Sunday, Allen was much better (less of a liability) operating out of the slot

 
Per Sources (@DVEMike & Dale Lolley): LB Lawrence Timmons has a broken hand in cast -- will continue to play.

 
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I'm cautiously "optimistic." (about the long term future) The new O-line having had a chance to gel together is starting to look good (could use one tackle). Le'Veon Bell is starting to show why he was a second round pick. Antonio Brown is a star. Sanders, Cotchery and Miller are all positives in the passing game. The linebackers and D line are playing pretty well and the secondary doesn't suck completely. Special teams is still kind of a mess and the play calling isn't awesome, but it's improving. If the Lions don't muff a punt on Sunday, we'd be 2 games out of the division lead with 4 division games left to play.

 
According to SteelCityInsider.net capologist Ian Whetstone, Ike Taylor restructured his contract to give the Steelers some cap space this year.Taylor dropped his base salary to the minimum and took the rest in signing bonus. That lowers his cap hit from $9.45 million this year to $7.965 million.

But his salary next year jumps from $10.454 million to $11.92 million.
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Ike is going to have to take a cut in pay next year if he wants to remain with the Steelers.

Also how about this nugget from Dale Lolley:

The Steelers are reportedly showing an interest in former Kansas City tight end Tony Moeacki, who was placed on waivers by Kansas City Wednesday. Moeacki has had injury issues since his breakout rookie season, but could certainly help the Steelers, if healthy.
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Moeacki did clear waivers and is now a free agent. He is recovering from a shoulder that he fractured in August. I am not a doctor but I am guessing he probably is not close to being ready to return otherwise the Chiefs would not be letting him walk.

 
With DJ on IR, Spaeth on IR/designated, the cupboard is somewhat bare. Would be a good idea to kick his tires a little.

 
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