as a near lock for the first round, I don't think he was going to fall that far in any event. If the Colts or Patriots take him, he could end up at #1 in the post-draft 100pyite76 said:SHHHH on D. Hopkins! I was hoping he'd fall to me at #10!
because he never missed a game at WVU, I believe did not miss a practice.Thanks for the read, Bloom.
"Tavon Austin WR - Some doubt his 175 lb frame’s ability to hold up, but I don’t buy it."
Can I ask why you don't have concerns? Especially if you think he is an 80-100 catch guy, I think his size is far from ideal.
I didn't know that (practice) - thanks.because he never missed a game at WVU, I believe did not miss a practice.Thanks for the read, Bloom.
"Tavon Austin WR - Some doubt his 175 lb frame’s ability to hold up, but I don’t buy it."
Can I ask why you don't have concerns? Especially if you think he is an 80-100 catch guy, I think his size is far from ideal.
Hunter/Harrison/Rogers via talentI didn't know that (practice) - thanks.because he never missed a game at WVU, I believe did not miss a practice.Thanks for the read, Bloom.
"Tavon Austin WR - Some doubt his 175 lb frame’s ability to hold up, but I don’t buy it."
Can I ask why you don't have concerns? Especially if you think he is an 80-100 catch guy, I think his size is far from ideal.
One more, if you don't mind:
Of your tier 2/3 WRs, who has the best shot to be a fantasy WR1, for those swinging for the fences?
Thanks.
This is true, never missed a practice.I didn't know that (practice) - thanks.because he never missed a game at WVU, I believe did not miss a practice.Thanks for the read, Bloom.
"Tavon Austin WR - Some doubt his 175 lb frame’s ability to hold up, but I don’t buy it."
Can I ask why you don't have concerns? Especially if you think he is an 80-100 catch guy, I think his size is far from ideal.
It also could be because there are at least five other draft prospect threads with ongoing discussion as well. It kind of all overlaps, as interesting as these rankings are.Lack of comments in this thread the Chachinator thinks is due to a truly unexceptional class.
The Chachinator doesn't have him in my top 100 either. He is not that good. HTHWhy no Margus Hunt?
I think you stand pat. The value is in the depth of this class no the individual player.If you're at 1.08/9/10, back end of the first and you need a RB, do you trade back or forward?
depth is real good this year. Mid late firsts have nice value imo.I think you stand pat. The value is in the depth of this class no the individual player.If you're at 1.08/9/10, back end of the first and you need a RB, do you trade back or forward?
Funny thing to say. People I am following on twitter are all singing his praises. I personally think the Franklin hype has gone too far.Gio is also my top RB. Nice to see someone else high on Franklin too.
Depends if you need RB now or later. Pedigree+situation will always come at a premium. At 1.8 you're probably betting on Y+2 for Lattimore or Michael.I think you stand pat. The value is in the depth of this class no the individual player.If you're at 1.08/9/10, back end of the first and you need a RB, do you trade back or forward?
It's deep at LB....but not interior impact types. It's hella deep at rush types. In non-big plays leagues that might not really be of much help.Also, I disagree on the view of the IDP class. I think it's a great IDP class. Deep at LB and DE, key positions for IDP.
Just looks like an average guy in every way to me. In the right offense, could catch maybe 60-70 balls, but looks like a Celek type at best."Like Te’o, Ertz will be drafted as a projected starter early in his career, but I don’t see a high level pro producer when I watch his film."Can you elaborate on your thoughts on TE Ertz Stanford? The low ranking surprised me. Good college stats, probably early 2nd round NFL pick, several teams with big need at TE.
Franklin measured in at 5'10" 205 at the Combine - Sproles 5'6" 187. Also, Sproles is a strong RB2 in PPR leagues. Not a bad at best.I think 4 RBs in the top tier is optimistic, but its a great read. Franklin seems the most out of place to me. I think he is a Darren Sproles type at best in the NFL and that requires an ideal landing spot IMO.Also, I disagree on the view of the IDP class. I think it's a great IDP class. Deep at LB and DE, key positions for IDP.
Depending on where Ellington/Michael land, I would either sit back and hope for lattimore or franklin, or trade up once 2 of lacy, bernard and franklin were gone.If you're at 1.08/9/10, back end of the first and you need a RB, do you trade back or forward?
projects as a 3-4 DE and has a bust risk. I don't like holding onto developmental DEs unless they have a high ceiling. Hunt does athletically, but it might be a while until we see how close he'll get to it. If he lands somewhere like SF, that may get him in the post draft 100Why no Margus Hunt?
see him going down on first contact a lot (like Starks), not that fluid or flexible... will definitely monitor where he lands tho, could jump in post-draft with good spot and getting draftedDid you evaluate Latavius Murray? Seems like a better version of Starks (tall big RB with some speed, but without Starks' injury concerns).
I'm waiting to see where he's drafted as an indicator of the nerve issue and how teams regard him. Senior Bowl was a disaster at WR, and I'm not sure how he projects as RB. CB might be in his futureI kinda of surprised that Denard Robinson did not make the cut. I know that QB to WR experiments often fail but I love Robinson's attitude. I think he could be an exception to the rule.
BTW: I have read that the nerve damage might not be an issue in the near future.
Damontre Moore.Who is the Bloom 101 player who just missed the cut into the top 100?
Taylor is a fantastic runner between the tackles, superior to Franklin for sure. Franklin, however, is a more versatile and dangerous RB. His combination of speed and quickness makes him a big play threat no matter whether he is running between the tackles, running outside, or in the receiving game. You're also not giving Franklin much credit for his ability to generate tough yards. He's not going to knock a defender backward like Earl Campbell, but he does a good job of falling forward for those extra two or three yards when wrapped up. I think both Franklin and Taylor will be good pros, but Franklin has qualities that give him potential that Taylor just doesn't have. I am having difficulty understanding how you consider him a below average talent.Franklin is a below average talent compared to your typical NFL starter. He has above average speed, but that's offset by his lack of size and power. He's a little bit smaller than the average back and doesn't run with a great deal of power. Sproles has a higher BMI and is a vastly superior talent with some of the best quickness and elusiveness of any pro back. Franklin doesn't have consistently great vision and agility like that. His highlight reels and game clips are totally meh. I think his range of NFL outcomes will be somewhere between Tatum Bell and Julius Jones, probably slanted more towards Bell. He'll be a reach in the NFL draft and in rookie drafts. With so many quality receivers in this pool, let somebody else take him off the board. Of the Pac-12 running backs, I think Stepfan Taylor has a more prototypical skill set. No speed whatsoever, but much more powerful than Franklin with superior phone booth quickness and make-you-miss ability. He'll be the better value in the 3rd-4th round than Franklin in the 2nd.
COP back, with Wildcat/Read Option packages, and return man is the way to go with him IMO. He'll probably have to improve his upper body strength, but every thing else you would want is there.I'm waiting to see where he's drafted as an indicator of the nerve issue and how teams regard him. Senior Bowl was a disaster at WR, and I'm not sure how he projects as RB. CB might be in his futureI kinda of surprised that Denard Robinson did not make the cut. I know that QB to WR experiments often fail but I love Robinson's attitude. I think he could be an exception to the rule.
BTW: I have read that the nerve damage might not be an issue in the near future.
I would agree that that is a best case scenario for him on offense - so what is that going to be worth for fantasy? Not much I'm afraidNero said:COP back, with Wildcat/Read Option packages, and return man is the way to go with him IMO. He'll probably have to improve his upper body strength, but every thing else you would want is there.Sigmund Bloom said:I'm waiting to see where he's drafted as an indicator of the nerve issue and how teams regard him. Senior Bowl was a disaster at WR, and I'm not sure how he projects as RB. CB might be in his futureDonnybrook said:I kinda of surprised that Denard Robinson did not make the cut. I know that QB to WR experiments often fail but I love Robinson's attitude. I think he could be an exception to the rule.
BTW: I have read that the nerve damage might not be an issue in the near future.
I would be looking to trade down, or alternatively flip the picks for vet commodities - of course depending on what you can get and scoring, team needs, etcBloom if you had the 1.1 and 1.2 picks in this draft, would you be content staying put and grabbing your first 2 choices or would you still make an effort to trade down? In this same league I have the 1.1 and 1.2, I also have the 1.9 and 1.12.
Would you wait until after the NFL draft? It seems like there would be a better market at that point right?I would be looking to trade down, or alternatively flip the picks for vet commodities - of course depending on what you can get and scoring, team needs, etcBloom if you had the 1.1 and 1.2 picks in this draft, would you be content staying put and grabbing your first 2 choices or would you still make an effort to trade down? In this same league I have the 1.1 and 1.2, I also have the 1.9 and 1.12.
Unless a lot of the top names end up in bad spots, these picks are always worth the most when they are on the clock.Would you wait until after the NFL draft? It seems like there would be a better market at that point right?I would be looking to trade down, or alternatively flip the picks for vet commodities - of course depending on what you can get and scoring, team needs, etcBloom if you had the 1.1 and 1.2 picks in this draft, would you be content staying put and grabbing your first 2 choices or would you still make an effort to trade down? In this same league I have the 1.1 and 1.2, I also have the 1.9 and 1.12.
It does seem like it got out there pretty early that this isn't a year to trade in the NFL or fantasy rookie draftsRight now with so much uncertainty, I am not finding much interest in the top picks. But I think after the NFL draft there is a solid chance some players will fall in good spots thus peaking the value. That's my hope at least.
Works for me. Thanks.Unless a lot of the top names end up in bad spots, these picks are always worth the most when they are on the clock.Would you wait until after the NFL draft? It seems like there would be a better market at that point right?I would be looking to trade down, or alternatively flip the picks for vet commodities - of course depending on what you can get and scoring, team needs, etcBloom if you had the 1.1 and 1.2 picks in this draft, would you be content staying put and grabbing your first 2 choices or would you still make an effort to trade down? In this same league I have the 1.1 and 1.2, I also have the 1.9 and 1.12.
Franklin might be average or even slightly below average in terms of power when you compare to other NFL starting backs, but for a runner his size, he generates a lot of leg drive and picks up a lot of yards after contact. Like Ahmad Bradshaw at his best. Sproles has Franklin in quicks and elusiveness, but he just can't run inside, while Franklin can. Franklin runs with great urgency and wastes no time or energy in the backfield. He puts a ton of pressure on the defense from the momentum the ball is in his hands. This will be a a good one to revisit in a few yearsEBF said:Franklin is a below average talent compared to your typical NFL starter. He has above average speed, but that's offset by his lack of size and power. He's a little bit smaller than the average back and doesn't run with a great deal of power. Sproles has a higher BMI and is a vastly superior talent with some of the best quickness and elusiveness of any pro back. Franklin doesn't have consistently great vision and agility like that. His highlight reels and game clips are totally meh. I think his range of NFL outcomes will be somewhere between Tatum Bell and Julius Jones, probably slanted more towards Bell. He'll be a reach in the NFL draft and in rookie drafts. With so many quality receivers in this pool, let somebody else take him off the board. Of the Pac-12 running backs, I think Stepfan Taylor has a more prototypical skill set. No speed whatsoever, but much more powerful than Franklin with superior phone booth quickness and make-you-miss ability. He'll be the better value in the 3rd-4th round than Franklin in the 2nd.