*2014-15 Hot Stove Thread: The Padres won it I guess (1 Viewer)

[Northern Voice]

Still waiting for the Yankees to appear out of nowhere and sign every remaining free agent.

 

[5Rings]

They have to field a competitive squad to remain relevant in the Bay Area.

This is a pretty silly post. The die have been cast in terms of relevance ever since Walter Haas decided to be neighborly and Magowan and Co. did not respond in kind. The A's could trade Crisp for Mike Trout or they could trade him for Ben Revere, it doesn't alter the fact that one team has what's considered a nice stadium, and the other most certainly does not.

Ridiculous post

 

[the moops]

fangraphs updated projections have Red Sox as best team in baseball by two wins. also has them as having the 6th best rotation.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Going through some Winter Meetings withdrawal here.

:(

 

[the moops]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

 

[Limp Ditka]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

 

[dparker713]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

Its amazing that there has been so little chatter on Scherzer. Seems like he completely overpriced himself.

 

[Annyong]

I'm guessing he gets 7/189

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

I guess it depends on your definition of difference maker, but:

Nori Aoki

Alex Rios

Colby Rasmus

Asdrubal Cabrera

Everth Cabrera

Jed Lowrie

Mike Morse

 

[Captain Hook]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

Its amazing that there has been so little chatter on Scherzer. Seems like he completely overpriced himself.

Thank Scott Boras for that - and for waiting as late as possible to squeeze out a few extra million

 

[Captain Hook]

I'm guessing he gets 7/189

almost inconceivable he gets less than $200 mil

 

[MAC_32]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

Its amazing that there has been so little chatter on Scherzer. Seems like he completely overpriced himself.

Wasn't Price Fielder's free agent offseason similar to this one so far?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

I guess it depends on your definition of difference maker, but:Nori Aoki

Alex Rios

Colby Rasmus

Asdrubal Cabrera

Everth Cabrera

Jed Lowrie

Mike Morse

Jose Fernandez

Jung-ho Kang

Kenta Maeda

 

[Eephus]

Maeda hasn't been posted yet.

The circumstances are much different but Yoan Moncada is in a similar state of limbo

 

[Bob Sacamano]

MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors 5s6 seconds ago

Cardinals To Sign Mark Reynolds http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/?p=44925

BLIND!

I don't see this move, especially for a NL team. He's coming off two straight years of sub-.700 OPS, can't play 3B anymore and doesn't have great platoon splits to PH against a LHP.

Fun guy to watch though.

They've been saying for years that they plan to add a vet power bat to the bench, but it never seems to happen. He's basically taking Descalso's roster spot for $2 mil, so... meh.

 

[the moops]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

I guess it depends on your definition of difference maker, but:Nori Aoki

Alex Rios

Colby Rasmus

Asdrubal Cabrera

Everth Cabrera

Jed Lowrie

Mike Morse

Those guys suck

 

[Annyong]

Rios is pretty good and I think Morse wears white sunglasses.

 

[Wrigley]

Rios is pretty good and I think Morse wears white sunglasses.

So Morse is a ####?

At lleast he has that going for him

 

[Frostillicus]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

I guess it depends on your definition of difference maker, but:Nori Aoki

Alex Rios

Colby Rasmus

Asdrubal Cabrera

Everth Cabrera

Jed Lowrie

Mike Morse

Jose Fernandez

Jung-ho Kang

Kenta Maeda

Jason Kubel

Delmon Young

 

[Eephus]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

I guess it depends on your definition of difference maker, but:Nori Aoki

Alex Rios

Colby Rasmus

Asdrubal Cabrera

Everth Cabrera

Jed Lowrie

Mike Morse

Jose Fernandez

Jung-ho Kang

Kenta Maeda

Jason Kubel

Delmon Young

The line has officially been breached

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Lol

 

[Limp Ditka]

who are the free agents left that are difference makers? scherzer, shields, headley? anyone else?

Melky

I guess it depends on your definition of difference maker, but:Nori Aoki

Alex Rios

Colby Rasmus

Asdrubal Cabrera

Everth Cabrera

Jed Lowrie

Mike Morse

Jose Fernandez

Jung-ho Kang

Kenta Maeda

Jason Kubel

Delmon Young

Those guys would make great Twins.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

The new jose fernandez might still be in cuba. Oh.

 

[Eephus]

The new jose fernandez might still be in cuba. Oh.

He's still better than Delmon Young

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The new jose fernandez might still be in cuba. Oh.

He's still better than Delmon Young

...until the playoffs.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Stew announced that Collmenter is the opening day starter for the D-backs.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Stew announced that Collmenter is the opening day starter for the D-backs.

His daughter was freckley.

 

[Eephus]

Stew announced that Collmenter is the opening day starter for the D-backs.

His daughter was freckley.

I know TINSTAAPP and all that but it wasn't that long ago (2 or 3 championships maybe) that I was scared by the young pitching prospects in the Diamondbacks system.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Stew announced that Collmenter is the opening day starter for the D-backs.

His daughter was freckley.

Was? Is she dead?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Not really a fan of what they have done so far. Tomas should be good, but their trades seem a bit puzzling.

 

[Captain Hook]

Not really a fan of what they have done so far. Tomas should be good, but their trades seem a bit puzzling.

They are reducing salary on players and trying to add more players - De La Rosa and Webster who will be under team control for longer periods of time and building the whole organization up.

Seem familiar? LaRussa obviously worked closely with Billy Beane and Stewart also was in that organization.

For the Diamondbacks this is clearly a year to rebuild and get going in the right direction - Oakland? still a chance Beane adds a few key players before the season starts

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Not really a fan of what they have done so far. Tomas should be good, but their trades seem a bit puzzling.

They are reducing salary on players and trying to add more players - De La Rosa and Webster who will be under team control for longer periods of time and building the whole organization up.Seem familiar? LaRussa obviously worked closely with Billy Beane and Stewart also was in that organization.

For the Diamondbacks this is clearly a year to rebuild and get going in the right direction - Oakland? still a chance Beane adds a few key players before the season starts

I get the plan, i just doubt their player selection. Ray over Greene?

 

[shadyridr]

Not really a fan of what they have done so far. Tomas should be good, but their trades seem a bit puzzling.

yeah now that the gritty factor is gone its hard to figure them out.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Stew announced that Collmenter is the opening day starter for the D-backs.

His daughter was freckley.

Was? Is she dead?

She's alive

 

[Fly]

Stew announced that Collmenter is the opening day starter for the D-backs.

His daughter was freckley.

I know TINSTAAPP and all that but it wasn't that long ago (2 or 3 championships maybe) that I was scared by the young pitching prospects in the Diamondbacks system.

I thought Trevor Bauer was going to be the next big thing.

 

[Eephus]

Not really a fan of what they have done so far. Tomas should be good, but their trades seem a bit puzzling.

They are reducing salary on players and trying to add more players - De La Rosa and Webster who will be under team control for longer periods of time and building the whole organization up.Seem familiar? LaRussa obviously worked closely with Billy Beane and Stewart also was in that organization.

For the Diamondbacks this is clearly a year to rebuild and get going in the right direction - Oakland? still a chance Beane adds a few key players before the season starts

Beane was a scout and assistant while LaRussa was in Oakland. The A's were a high payroll club when Walter Haas owned the club and LaRussa managed it. The Cardinals built from within but always had funds available to supplement that talent with veterans.

The Diamondbacks had a lot of cost controlled talent a few years ago but they traded most of it away in search of grittiness. That got them 2 playoff wins in 2011 and 98 regular season losses in 2014. They have their work cut out for them in a division with two big spenders at the top.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Kang to be posted Monday. Heyman appears to have speculated that oak, sf, and nym were interested, on just an assumption, i think? But then it got repeated in a bunch of places. Maybe everyone's just playing it close to the vest.

 

[Premier]

The Diamondbacks had a lot of cost controlled talent a few years ago but they traded most of it away in search of grittiness.

amazing

 

[Annyong]

Melky to the White Sox. Wtf?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Melky to the White Sox. Wtf?

#### yeah!

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Melky to the White Sox. Wtf?

3/45. According to steamer projections it's a 1 win upgrade over Vicideo, who looks like he's about to be shipped.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

I know, i know, my face is a 1 win upgrade over Dianne Viciedo.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Those projections are a real steamer.

Melky's been north of a three WAR three of the last four season

Viciedo's total WAR over that time is zero.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

White Sox putting together a 75 win team here.

Everyone run!

 

[Limp Ditka]

White Sox putting together a 75 win team here.

Everyone run!

 

[shadyridr]

Melky to the White Sox. Wtf?

3/45. According to steamer projections it's a 1 win upgrade over Vicideo, who looks like he's about to be shipped.

not sure how thats possible. Melky is a much better player than viciedo offensively and defensively

 

[RnR]

If teh steemer says it, it must be true you guys.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Melky to the White Sox. Wtf?

3/45. According to steamer projections it's a 1 win upgrade over Vicideo, who looks like he's about to be shipped.

not sure how thats possible. Melky is a much better player than viciedo offensively and defensively

Last year with Fangraphs, Melky was 2.7 and Viciedo was -.7, while BR Melky was 3.1 and Viciedo was -.9 ... So Melky is a significant upgrade of 3+ WAR it looks like.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Melky to the White Sox. Wtf?

3/45. According to steamer projections it's a 1 win upgrade over Vicideo, who looks like he's about to be shipped.

not sure how thats possible. Melky is a much better player than viciedo offensively and defensively

Last year with Fangraphs, Melky was 2.7 and Viciedo was -.7, while BR Melky was 3.1 and Viciedo was -.9 ... So Melky is a significant upgrade of 3+ WAR it looks like.

Thanks for looking this info up. No idea where we'd be without the likes of you

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Sorry, Steamer says 1.8 for melky, .2 for dianne. So +1.6.