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Nobody will get 100% unless voting is transferred to the Baseball Writers Association of North Korea.
anything more than obp here? top 10 mvp 2x in 20 yrs? led league in runs 2x, 2b 3x. 7x AS in 20 yrs. very good player, not a HOFer. if he finished with 2950 hits would he be in?
That home run was hjt by chili Davis and definitely a bit of a Yankee stadium homer. I have seen six no hitters from the first pitch In my life (none in person ) and to this day that is the most dominant game I've ever seen.
with a 20 year career and 12,500 PAs you'd expect some high counting stats. for me, its a combo of having HOF years to hang your hat on and having a period where you are considered the elite in the game/at your position. where you dominated the game is something i like to see. mix in some major awards and leading the league in some big cats. if you want to say his 5 year stretch was 94-98 or 95-99, that is where he won his GGs, had AS nods and was in the MVP mix, i can buy that but boy, the last 8 years of his career are so middling to me. i just dont see those years that jump out to me and scream HOFer. biggio is never mentioned as a steroid guy, but his top 2 HR seasons were age 38 & 39.
That's what I mean. They'll drop their dumb stand against anyone getting in with 100% because it's Jeter. You watch.
You do realize that Biggio played Second Base don't you?
A few highlights diving for balls, the occasional backflip while taking the field, and rode some coattails to one World Series ring in a weak era. Wasn't even that good in that Simpsons episode. Voters probably felt sorry for him more than anything else.
understand position scarcity, but he hit .300 4x in 20 yrs. Jeff Kent and maybe Edgardo Alfonzo had better Peak seasons. i do understand the argument for compilers, but i never think of craig biggio as one of the best 2b of all time or even one of the 10-15 best players during his career. hall of very good.You do realize that Biggio played Second Base don't you?
If he had these same stats as a 1B or corner OF then I would be on board, but why can't some compare players to the other players that played that position. He was also an all-star/silver slugger catcher for the first 3 years of his career.
I once had a discussion with a local radio sport show guy who was claiming that since Ripken was in the Hall that Tino Martinez should be in too, since that had close stats...
Biggio is clearly superior to Sandberg in career value and probably no worse than equivalent to Ryno in peak value.understand position scarcity, but he hit .300 4x in 20 yrs. Jeff Kent and maybe Edgardo Alfonzo had better Peak seasons. i do understand the argument for compilers, but i never think of craig biggio as one of the best 2b of all time or even one of the 10-15 best players during his career. hall of very good.You do realize that Biggio played Second Base don't you?
If he had these same stats as a 1B or corner OF then I would be on board, but why can't some compare players to the other players that played that position. He was also an all-star/silver slugger catcher for the first 3 years of his career.
I once had a discussion with a local radio sport show guy who was claiming that since Ripken was in the Hall that Tino Martinez should be in too, since that had close stats...
Yeah, James was really big on the fact that GIDP weren't just a random occurrence. He used to downgrade Jim Ed Rice in the early Abstracts because he was always among the league leaders in the category. Rice still is 1 and 2 on the single season list.
If there's one thing you can count on, it is Albert hustling out of the box on a routine grounder. Just can't comprehend how this could happen.
I believe he could (and should) get in next year via the veterans committee. The problem is that the BBWAA staffs that committee, and I'm pretty sure they all still hate Belle.
They might as well disband the veterans committees and open a HoVG annex closer to a major airport.
Poor timing on top of a poor process. Whitaker's one shot on the ballot came in 2001 which was near the height of the steroid era and before general awareness of sabermetrics. Whitaker's counting stats looked weak in comparison to active players and his more subtle contributions remained hidden to the voters. On top of that, he was on a crowded ballot with two first ballot inductees. It probably didn't help that the post-1988 Tigers were pretty mediocre or that Roberto Alomar and others kept Lou off All-Star teams in the latter half of his career.
CHipper should be number 2 shortly thereafter.
He's a poor man's Tim Teufel. At best.
