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2016-17 NBA Thread: Finals are over, please go away (1 Viewer)

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msudaisy26 said:
Even if that is the case, and I am assuming you are thinking about buying a pair and saving them, why not just wait until they tank and grab a pair for under 100?

Edit : By time these are worth anything we will all be long gone. 
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Dear god, no.  I don't get the whole shoe thing.  Now if you don't mind, get off my lawn.

 
Doris Burke? She was great back when covering the Big East. Played college basketball at Providence or something like that, I believe. 

 
Charlie Harper said:
Ok. Dray back in.

Man the crowd is so crappy now. Makes me sad.
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I was thinking that, but then realize I ambled in to flip the game on around Q2. To be fair I was making my offspring go to sleep, but I think some jadedness is inevitable. Tickets costing a mint doesn't help either.

If they get into deep water in a series, or if they make the Finals, I think things will get markedly more turnt.

 
Also, "Markedly More Turnt" is the name of my designer sneaker. The MMT1's retail for $995, have laces that are made out of actual licorice, and the soles each contain an actual ant colony.

 
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msudaisy26 said:
Even if that is the case, and I am assuming you are thinking about buying a pair and saving them, why not just wait until they tank and grab a pair for under 100?

Edit : By time these are worth anything we will all be long gone. 
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I assume it will be the opposite. I figure initial sales will be relatively solid (relative, considering there's no built in distribution network and everybody just loves buying shoes from a shady site with no return policy).

But they'll sell initially, I think. I don't understand the sneaker market at all, but it would seem there are just some sneakerheads that are going to buy whatever expensive garbage is available to say they did. And LaVar is right, really high prices are going to attract a lot of buyers. I doubt LaVar openly mocking his target audience will even hurt. To a lot of people, being a "big baller" is a goal in life, for some reason. 

Whether the brand is a long-term seller after the initial novelty period, who knows, but I kind of think it might be a decent gamble. I don't know the difference in profit for the Ball family owning their own brand vs. an endorsement deal, but I'd have to think it's quite significant.

Let's say they sell 20,000 of these dreadful things and the Ball family is getting $300 of the $500 price, that's $6 million. A whole lot more than a rookie endorsement deal. If Lonzo simply sticks in the NBA (very high probability), he's set for life already (assuming non-horrible money management), so it's even that much of a risk to take a chance on something that could be extremely lucrative.

 
pollardsvision said:
I assume it will be the opposite. I figure initial sales will be relatively solid (relative, considering there's no built in distribution network and everybody just loves buying shoes from a shady site with no return policy).

But they'll sell initially, I think. I don't understand the sneaker market at all, but it would seem there are just some sneakerheads that are going to buy whatever expensive garbage is available to say they did. And LaVar is right, really high prices are going to attract a lot of buyers. I doubt LaVar openly mocking his target audience will even hurt. To a lot of people, being a "big baller" is a goal in life, for some reason. 

Whether the brand is a long-term seller after the initial novelty period, who knows, but I kind of think it might be a decent gamble. I don't know the difference in profit for the Ball family owning their own brand vs. an endorsement deal, but I'd have to think it's quite significant.

Let's say they sell 20,000 of these dreadful things and the Ball family is getting $300 of the $500 price, that's $6 million. A whole lot more than a rookie endorsement deal. If Lonzo simply sticks in the NBA (very high probability), he's set for life already (assuming non-horrible money management), so it's even that much of a risk to take a chance on something that could be extremely lucrative.
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The bold is exactly the point, he's not trying to sell to the masses, he's distinctly trying to create a luxe brand.

The amount of publicity that this has gotten, FREE PUBLICITY, has to be worth many millions. He did it for the cost of a video. Call this guy a fool and call him disgusting, but he's wearing the pro-wrestling heel hat like a champ. It's bordering of genius actually.

Remember the Starbury's? He went the other way and made them super affordable. Marbury was an NBA All-Star. I think they were (at best) a mild success. Quite frankly, I'll be shocked if in the next 5 days we don't see Stefon coming out decrying these overpriced Baller kicks.

 
Charlie Harper said:
Ok. Dray back in.

Man the crowd is so crappy now. Makes me sad.
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Not saying this has anything to do with the crowd noise, but I've always found it hilarious that one of the whitest places in America is the crowd at an NBA game in Oakland.  It's like if there was a country club in Vermont filled with black people.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Not saying this has anything to do with the crowd noise, but I've always found it hilarious that one of the whitest places in America is the crowd at an NBA game in Oakland.  It's like if there was a country club in Vermont filled with black people.
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Are the crowds any different at Wizards games? I honestly don't know but if it hasn't happened yet get ready for it as the team becomes more popular (if their winning ways continue).

I know you didn't mean it literally, but I don't find it hilarious that a lot of the black people have been priced out of the market. When I was growing up going to Warriors games it wasn't that way (and wasn't that way as recently as a decade ago). There are still plenty of Asians, though, which is nice.

Or so I hear...I can't afford it either.

 
bananafish said:
Are the crowds any different at Wizards games? I honestly don't know but if it hasn't happened yet get ready for it as the team becomes more popular (if their winning ways continue).

I know you didn't mean it literally, but I don't find it hilarious that a lot of the black people have been priced out of the market. When I was growing up going to Warriors games it wasn't that way (and wasn't that way as recently as a decade ago). There are still plenty of Asians, though, which is nice.

Or so I hear...I can't afford it either.
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Lots of AAs see wizards games.  I don't know the comp between other teams though.

 
bananafish said:
Are the crowds any different at Wizards games? I honestly don't know but if it hasn't happened yet get ready for it as the team becomes more popular (if their winning ways continue).

I know you didn't mean it literally, but I don't find it hilarious that a lot of the black people have been priced out of the market. When I was growing up going to Warriors games it wasn't that way (and wasn't that way as recently as a decade ago). There are still plenty of Asians, though, which is nice.

Or so I hear...I can't afford it either.
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Yeah I didn't mean it like that, just noting the amusing contrast because of the location and the sport.  Also remember that we're only seeing the premium seats on TV, I assume it's a different crowd in all respects on the upper level.

The crowds at Wiz games- to the extent there are crowds- have always been diverse. I have no idea what will happen if they ever turn into an elite team and raise prices accordingly, though.

 
It's funny reading comments this morning about Olynk being a punk, when he's one of the softest guys in the league.  Oubre should certainly be suspended for the shove.  Olynk didn't flop, I genuinely think he was caught off balance and it wasn't just little shove, the kid came at him hard.  He was also trying to push through a ref for an "extended moment".  Oubre is a good player, but he ran into a wall and lost his temper.  It was the play down the court a few minutes earlier when Olynk should have been called for a foul, and Oubre went down hard. 

When Bradley Beal finally wakes up from his coma, the Celtics are going to have to deal with that and find an answer, so this series isn't going to get any easier for Boston.

Anyway, Jennings is the other guy who is just a punk.  He played the "I'm going to get under your skin" perfectly with Rozier, but he's a ##### and I'm looking forward to someone landing some good shots on him Sunday.

The Celtics inability to rebound has been their biggest weakness all season, and will most certainly be their undoing at some point in these playoffs.  I kept waiting for the C's to make a run last night and it never happened. 

Good to see Stevens get a little animated too.  I love the guy, but sometimes he looks like a corpse. 

 
On The Rocks said:
It's funny reading comments this morning about Olynk being a punk, when he's one of the softest guys in the league.  Oubre should certainly be suspended for the shove.  Olynk didn't flop, I genuinely think he was caught off balance and it wasn't just little shove, the kid came at him hard.  He was also trying to push through a ref for an "extended moment".  Oubre is a good player, but he ran into a wall and lost his temper.  It was the play down the court a few minutes earlier when Olynk should have been called for a foul, and Oubre went down hard. 

When Bradley Beal finally wakes up from his coma, the Celtics are going to have to deal with that and find an answer, so this series isn't going to get any easier for Boston.

Anyway, Jennings is the other guy who is just a punk.  He played the "I'm going to get under your skin" perfectly with Rozier, but he's a ##### and I'm looking forward to someone landing some good shots on him Sunday.

The Celtics inability to rebound has been their biggest weakness all season, and will most certainly be their undoing at some point in these playoffs.  I kept waiting for the C's to make a run last night and it never happened. 

Good to see Stevens get a little animated too.  I love the guy, but sometimes he looks like a corpse. 
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Yea no. Olynk is definitely a dirty player. He constantly tries to pull players shoulders out of socket.

 
On The Rocks said:
It's funny reading comments this morning about Olynk being a punk, when he's one of the softest guys in the league.  Oubre should certainly be suspended for the shove.  Olynk didn't flop, I genuinely think he was caught off balance and it wasn't just little shove, the kid came at him hard.  He was also trying to push through a ref for an "extended moment".  Oubre is a good player, but he ran into a wall and lost his temper.  It was the play down the court a few minutes earlier when Olynk should have been called for a foul, and Oubre went down hard. 

When Bradley Beal finally wakes up from his coma, the Celtics are going to have to deal with that and find an answer, so this series isn't going to get any easier for Boston.

Anyway, Jennings is the other guy who is just a punk.  He played the "I'm going to get under your skin" perfectly with Rozier, but he's a ##### and I'm looking forward to someone landing some good shots on him Sunday.

The Celtics inability to rebound has been their biggest weakness all season, and will most certainly be their undoing at some point in these playoffs.  I kept waiting for the C's to make a run last night and it never happened. 

Good to see Stevens get a little animated too.  I love the guy, but sometimes he looks like a corpse. 
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He got ejected for overreacting to a foul.  Let's not be drama queens about it.

 
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Oubre should be suspended for a shove (which was a complete flop) after he already got ejected in game? Yeah, ok.

Interested to see Pop's rotations without Parker tonight.

 
On The Rocks said:
It's funny reading comments this morning about Olynk being a punk, when he's one of the softest guys in the league.  Oubre should certainly be suspended for the shove.  Olynk didn't flop, I genuinely think he was caught off balance and it wasn't just little shove, the kid came at him hard.  He was also trying to push through a ref for an "extended moment".  Oubre is a good player, but he ran into a wall and lost his temper.  It was the play down the court a few minutes earlier when Olynk should have been called for a foul, and Oubre went down hard. 

When Bradley Beal finally wakes up from his coma, the Celtics are going to have to deal with that and find an answer, so this series isn't going to get any easier for Boston.

Anyway, Jennings is the other guy who is just a punk.  He played the "I'm going to get under your skin" perfectly with Rozier, but he's a ##### and I'm looking forward to someone landing some good shots on him Sunday.

The Celtics inability to rebound has been their biggest weakness all season, and will most certainly be their undoing at some point in these playoffs.  I kept waiting for the C's to make a run last night and it never happened. 

Good to see Stevens get a little animated too.  I love the guy, but sometimes he looks like a corpse. 
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Oubre was in the wrong for overreacting, but Olynyk is definitely a dirty player. It's not a coincidence that he keeps finding himself at the center of these things. It's also not a coincidence that the ref called an offensive foul on what first appeared to be a perfectly legal screen, nor is it a coincidence that the ref was already standing between Oubre and Olynyk and moving them apart when Oubre charged him. Olynyk lifted his shoulder into Oubre's chin when they made contact. That's why the call was made and why the ref was standing there; he knew Oubre had just taken a shot to the head and would probably be upset. Not that upset, though. Losing him for Game 4 will hurt the Wiz.

As for Jennings, he is a huge punk/troll. But his performance in that role is basically a less effective version of what Marcus Smart does. They both play defense right in the face of the player they're guarding at all times, and then fly backwards looking for a call when that player tries to get around them or just bumps them back out of frustration. The difference between the two is that Smart flops like a fish on offense too, whereas Jennings prefers to stay on his feet so he can try to pull off silly, inefficient highlight reel nonsense.

 
IMO the issue with Oubre is not the shove but the fact he ran after him...that part is totally unacceptable...could have turned into a Rudy Tomjanovich part two...

 
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scoobus said:
Oubre should be suspended for a shove (which was a complete flop) after he already got ejected in game? Yeah, ok.

Interested to see Pop's rotations without Parker tonight.
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My concern is that he inadvertently pushed the ref while going after Olynyk. Not sure what the rule is on that but even if it's not a separate offense it might affect how they rule on the shove.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Oubre was in the wrong for overreacting, but Olynyk is definitely a dirty player. It's not a coincidence that he keeps finding himself at the center of these things. It's also not a coincidence that the ref called an offensive foul on what first appeared to be a perfectly legal screen, nor is it a coincidence that the ref was already standing between Oubre and Olynyk and moving them apart when Oubre charged him. Olynyk lifted his shoulder into Oubre's chin when they made contact. That's why the call was made and why the ref was standing there; he knew Oubre had just taken a shot to the head and would probably be upset. Not that upset, though. Losing him for Game 4 will hurt the Wiz.

As for Jennings, he is a huge punk/troll. But his performance in that role is basically a less effective version of what Marcus Smart does. They both play defense right in the face of the player they're guarding at all times, and then fly backwards looking for a call when that player tries to get around them or just bumps them back out of frustration. The difference between the two is that Smart flops like a fish on offense too, whereas Jennings prefers to stay on his feet so he can try to pull off silly, inefficient highlight reel nonsense.
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People can call Jennings whatever they want, but they love this type of player on their team.  I think it's great Jennings has bought into and ingraciated himslef into the team after just a short time with it.  He's a great teammate.

 
i would probably not feel bad if brandon jennings got thrown out of basketball not just for a game or whatever i mean like thrown out the end that would be ok that guy is a little rotten burito take that to the bank bromigos 

 
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