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2016 RB Lotto Ticket Rankings (1 Viewer)

The schedule is ok IMO. I'm more concerned about the team falling behind in games and having to get away from the run game. It's unlikely Ajayi is really involved in the passing game. On the other hand, he leads the league in average yards after contact, running backs are tough to find and the track record for RBs with 200 yard games is pretty good. It was the first game all year the entire starting OL played together. They have 4 first rounders on that line so it has talent.My thought is if every year you get 1 or 2 shots to fire a big shot. Ajayi seems like as a well positioned bet.
I view the difference between Ajayi and the new lottery ticket player Knile Davis to be more of a coin toss even though more people seem to be leaning towards Ajayi.  Ajayi hasn't done much until the last game and Davis has a pretty soft schedule for the next few weeks, Chicago, Atlanta, and Indy which gives him an easy path to become fantasy relevant.

 
Dixon only got two carries, but I watched them both today on replay and he looks like he is cutting well and shifty unlike previous week. He looks good. Suprised if he doesn't get more in coming weeks.

 
Bump with updates in red.  Added Knile Davis GB and Ajayi - both to the "Too Late" list as Ajayi was most likely rostered before this weekend and Davis was most likely picked up in WW by now (he was last night in both my leagues) - neither qualify as preemptive.

What possible Season Changing / Champion Maker (Lotto Ticket) RB's are out there on waivers (or possibly a buy low)?  RB's who could put up Top 5 RB numbers ROS.  We are talking preemptive.

To paraphrase @TZMarkie : "This is for re-draft and we are looking for the ones with the best combination of availability, upside and possibility of a big workload. That combination would likely give the average owner the best chance at hitting the "lottery ticket RB" that could change an owners season."

Potential Season Changers / Champion Makers - Here is my Post-Week-6 list, loosely ranked:

  • D. Booker DEN - big defense holds game scripts on a team that wants to run, usage is trending up, trend continued Oct 13 v DEN - Here's the thread on Booker: Devontae Booker
  • D. Williams PIT - did well last year when Bell was out (twice) - Bloom *continues* to advise to hold him at all costs in The Audible
  • A. Morris DAL - still looks good on a team that wants to and can run the ball
  • B. Powell NYJ - Bloom has recently stated in a pod cast that Powell could be a #1 given the chance - UPDATE: the Jets looked inept Oct 17 - does Powell belong on this list?
  • D. Henry  TEN - another team that wants to run the ball - has looked really good in limited opportunities
  • M. Gillislee BUF - another team that wants to run the ball all day - volume play here - Oct 16: it was SF after all but a nice 6-60-1 line
  • Mike Davis TE   FROM ROTOWORLD: (Oct 17) thanks to  @JFS171 :  "Mike Davis rushed five times for 13 yards and caught 1-of-3 targets for six yards Week 6 against the Bills.  When Carlos Hyde briefly left the game with a shoulder injury, Davis took over instead of Shaun Draughn. Davis out-snapped Draughn 24-to-5 and out-touched him 6-to-1. It is only one game, but it looks like Davis is establishing himself as Hyde's handcuff. " UPDATE:  I replaced Draughn with Davis on this list
  • Rawls SEA - a ton of potential - OL issues didn't seem to matter last year with his 5+ YPC - nervous owners may have dropped him
Honorable Mention (potential top 12 ROS) (no particular order):

  • Rob Kelley WAS - per @zamboni "(HC) said (Oct 9th) that while Jones is still the guy, Kelley deserves more carries" - is this a changing of the guard situation? How good is WAS OL? - Oct 16: 5-59-0 <-- nice line but Jones also had a nice 16-135-1 line - I thought PHI's defense was good??
  • K. Dixon  BAL - wasn't used much his 1st week back but I *love* players on teams that fire their HC/OC - the new coach often shakes things up increasing fantasy value - looks like it's West's show going forward
  • Dwayne Washington DET - on a team with a mediocre defense and a tendency to pass anyway, how much production? - Zenner went 14-58-0 Oct 16 perhaps he is the Lotto Ticket in DET?  per @BobbyLayneNo. Yesterday (Oct 16) was a desperation game plan - Boldin playing Ebron's role, Tate playing Riddick's role, Zenner was effective but he's the clear #3 behind Swaggy and Theo (#4 if AA ever comes back in 2016 but that seems unlikely.)
  • W. Smallwood PHI -  4-6-0 Oct 16 while Matthews went 9-60-0 and 3-75-0 receiving 
  • Dion Lewis NE - see DJ Foster below
  • DJ Foster NE - per @JFS171 "he could've scored twice on Sunday Oct 9th (Brady's first game back)" - could he supplant Dion Lewis regardless of Lewis' health?
  • Farrow SDC
  • A. Ellington ARZ
  • Malcolm Brown STL
  • DeAndre Washington OAK - per @need2know "The 3 way split becomes a 4 way when Murray gets back.  Horrible situation for fantasy" - used more than Richard Oct 16
  • Jalen Richard OAK - thanks to @davearm for this one and per @austinball "Im seeing just as may "experts' whispering that he's the more talented explosive back as DW. Personally I think JR looks speedier" - out used by DeAndre Washington Oct 16
  • Paul Perkins NYG - thanks @austinball Can he produce like a Top 5 RB if he gets the chance?
  • Hightower - thanks to @Rodrigo Duterte who states "would be an automatic RB2" - I've added him to the Honorables as I don't see him as a Season Changer / Lotto Ticket
Too Late for preemptive pickup (the cat is outta the bag) - at least in my two 12 team leagues these guys are long gone:

  • Howard CHI
  • Ware KC -  He is a "must roster, must hold" for sure now and if available will be a hot WW pickup this week.
  • Knile Davis GB - whatever his production, highly likely to be rostered by now and does not qualify as a preemptive
  • Jay Ajayi MIA - whatever happens in MIA, highly likely to be rostered by now and does not qualify as a preemptive
P.S. I started a similar thread for WH/TE here:  2016 WR (and TE) Lotto Ticket Rankings

 
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beerbuff said:
I view the difference between Ajayi and the new lottery ticket player Knile Davis to be more of a coin toss even though more people seem to be leaning towards Ajayi.  Ajayi hasn't done much until the last game and Davis has a pretty soft schedule for the next few weeks, Chicago, Atlanta, and Indy which gives him an easy path to become fantasy relevant.
Steelers had been allowing 73 yards rushing per game. The Titans have allowed the 6th fewest points to fantasy RBs per game. Those weren't great match-ups, but he posted 42/1 and 202/2. He leads the league in yards after contact. To me, if he gets the bulk of the rushes, he can be a regular fantasy starter rest of season. I am less concerned about him playing good defenses than I am with him playing great offenses that force Miami into pass happy comeback mode early.  Teams like the Bills, Jets, Ravens and Rams do not scare me at all.

Knile Davis is a player that has been proven (by coaching decisions and all fantasy experts) to be a below average RB. He is now rushed into a new offense which has been the least productive team for RBs this year. Packers RBs are averaging just 10 standard ppg. Miami is averaging 20. Take out Ajayi's big week,  pretend not a single Dolphin RB touched the ball last week and the Dolphins RBs would still be averaging 13 ppg through 6 weeks. That gives you an idea of just how bad the Green Bay situation is for a RB.

 
daylight said:
  • Howard CHI
  • Ware KC -  He is a "must roster, must hold" for sure now and if available will be a hot WW pickup this week.
  • Knile Davis GB - whatever his production, highly likely to be rostered by now and does not qualify as a preemptive
  • Jay Ajayi MIA - whatever happens in MIA, highly likely to be rostered by now and does not qualify as a preemptive
What is the overall feeling about the value of Howard at this point? Holding him for now but a tough schedule turn and a lackluster Bears PPG has me concerned. Thoughts?

 
What is the overall feeling about the value of Howard at this point? Holding him for now but a tough schedule turn and a lackluster Bears PPG has me concerned. Thoughts?
After playing 93 percent of the team snaps and tallying 41 percent of the team touches during his first two games as the starter, Jordan Howard played 69 percent of the team snaps and had 30 percent of the team touches in Week 6.
For whatever reason they mixed Kadeem Carey in a good bit now that he was back healthy in Wk 6.

 
What is the overall feeling about the value of Howard at this point? Holding him for now but a tough schedule turn and a lackluster Bears PPG has me concerned. Thoughts?
This guy was the second coming before last week.  A bad week against a decent defense and a backup RB getting 9 touches to his 17 and people are worried.  I know the next two weeks are tough but he gets Lions and Redskins during the playoffs (along with tough Packers).  If an owner is worried, I'm buying everywhere I can.

 
This guy was the second coming before last week.  A bad week against a decent defense and a backup RB getting 9 touches to his 17 and people are worried.  I know the next two weeks are tough but he gets Lions and Redskins during the playoffs (along with tough Packers).  If an owner is worried, I'm buying everywhere I can.
Well carey did better with his limited touches. Howard did score the td. Langford might be back for those sweet playoff matchups too... Things change fast in the nfl. I like the points i have in the bank from the guy

 
Well carey did better with his limited touches. Howard did score the td. Langford might be back for those sweet playoff matchups too... Things change fast in the nfl. I like the points i have in the bank from the guy
I'm not worried about Carey.  He's been there for 3 years and lost out to Langford last year...and Howard has looked far better than Langford in his limited career.  Yes, Langford will be back, so I'd suggest to any Howard owner to handcuff, but I'm not worried about either.  No back in this league outside of a few get all the carries.  Taking a few off Howard isn't a bad thing.  Not to mention, in a game where Carey looked better, Howard got 5 to 1 redzone looks.  I don't own Howard nor Langford, but I will be pouncing in my leagues if the owner is worried.

 
How do you guys value Mi

GoBirds said:
Thinking of dumping Powell for Knile Davis or Asiata.....where do they fall on this list?
I also think about dumping Powell to get Rawls (I own Michael), but have held off because Forte looks terrible, the schedule the rest of the year looks tasty, and the secondary is so bad that they will find themselves having to throw a lot. 

 
beerbuff said:
I view the difference between Ajayi and the new lottery ticket player Knile Davis to be more of a coin toss even though more people seem to be leaning towards Ajayi.  Ajayi hasn't done much until the last game and Davis has a pretty soft schedule for the next few weeks, Chicago, Atlanta, and Indy which gives him an easy path to become fantasy relevant.
If both Ajayi and K-Davis are available, I lean Ajayi.

Quick reasons why:

Players: Both qualify as "decent" but neither seem to be world-beaters who have just been waiting for their shot. - DRAW

Opportunity: K-Davis is a stopgap until Lacy is healthy enough to play (whether that's three weeks or seven weeks is up in the air so not arguing K-Davis could certainly have value during this timeframe). Ajayi has the opportunity to be "the guy" in the offense the rest of the season. Only roadblock is Foster (who is a question mark on a number of levels). - Advantage AJAYI

Offense: Green Bay is an established offense which has not been great running the ball. K-Davis will need to learn the system on-the-fly. Perhaps he can outperform Lacy/Starks and do more within the framework but that's a long bet. Miami is an offense still evolving. New coach. Revolving door at line the first few weeks. Everyone is still in learning mode. This may lend itself to the offense improving as the players adjust to the system over the course of the season (this is a bet on Gase and his coaching/system more than anything else). My personal preference is the player whose offense may be getting better, but that's the direction I tend to gamble in FF (and am frequently wrong). - Advantage AJAYI

Just my thoughts for those in the situation where both these guys are available. I think K-Davis may certainly have value, but I think Ajayi has more potential season-long upside.

:2cents:

 
If both Ajayi and K-Davis are available, I lean Ajayi.

Quick reasons why:

Players: Both qualify as "decent" but neither seem to be world-beaters who have just been waiting for their shot. - DRAW

Opportunity: K-Davis is a stopgap until Lacy is healthy enough to play (whether that's three weeks or seven weeks is up in the air so not arguing K-Davis could certainly have value during this timeframe). Ajayi has the opportunity to be "the guy" in the offense the rest of the season. Only roadblock is Foster (who is a question mark on a number of levels). - Advantage AJAYI

Offense: Green Bay is an established offense which has not been great running the ball. K-Davis will need to learn the system on-the-fly. Perhaps he can outperform Lacy/Starks and do more within the framework but that's a long bet. Miami is an offense still evolving. New coach. Revolving door at line the first few weeks. Everyone is still in learning mode. This may lend itself to the offense improving as the players adjust to the system over the course of the season (this is a bet on Gase and his coaching/system more than anything else). My personal preference is the player whose offense may be getting better, but that's the direction I tend to gamble in FF (and am frequently wrong). - Advantage AJAYI

Just my thoughts for those in the situation where both these guys are available. I think K-Davis may certainly have value, but I think Ajayi has more potential season-long upside.

:2cents:
You won't get much argument from me however just a couple of points.  Ajayi's bigger roadblock is the Miami offense, if they are forced to play from behind (which is likely most of the time) then Foster is the better pass catcher and holds more value ONCE healthy. Also, much has been said of Davis not knowing GB's system, however both GB and KC's systems are pretty similar so it shouldn't take him long.  I'm just saying it's more of a 50-50 proposition between the two than an advantage to Ajayi.  Given that Lacy hasn't shown much so far there is an opportunity for Davis to become the bellcow, it's certainly not a sure thing but it is a possibility.  If he can't outperform an overweight RB then his time in the NFL will be rather short going forward.

 
You won't get much argument from me however just a couple of points.  Ajayi's bigger roadblock is the Miami offense, if they are forced to play from behind (which is likely most of the time) then Foster is the better pass catcher and holds more value ONCE healthy. Also, much has been said of Davis not knowing GB's system, however both GB and KC's systems are pretty similar so it shouldn't take him long.  I'm just saying it's more of a 50-50 proposition between the two than an advantage to Ajayi.  Given that Lacy hasn't shown much so far there is an opportunity for Davis to become the bellcow, it's certainly not a sure thing but it is a possibility.  If he can't outperform an overweight RB then his time in the NFL will be rather short going forward.
I have to disagree pretty much across the board. Ajayi will be getting carries, certainly in the first half and likely through the third quarter regardless of whether Miami is up or down on the scoreboard. And the Green Bay offense has been just as out of sync as any offense in the league to this point.

I have an incredibly difficult time reconciling the notion that Davis is somehow a threat to Lacy when he returns. Just seems entirely implausible.

Ajayi just put up a monster and Gase clearly noticed. He is in the drivers seat and you need to roll with that as opposed to a spec add of Davis who may be little more than roster depth, right now behind Don Jackson and Ty Montgomery. It's not like Davis has strung together some kind of spectacular game film to suggest that he will suddenly turn into something better than the marginal RB he has been for the first three years of his career.

 
Well, I'm dizzy.

Moves I've made in the last few hours:

* Dropped K. Dixon for K. Davis.

* Dropped T. Hightower for M. Davis.

* Dropped D. Washington (OAK) for M. Gillislee

This is fun.

If I didn't draft bum L. Murray this all wouldn't be necessary.

 
We're about to find out soon if Mike Davis is any good, with the 49ers saying Hyde looks doubtful for Sunday.  About as good as you can do for a guy probably no one picked up with the Knile Davis rush.

I think we're also about to get a look at Don Jackson... I don't think Knile is very good, so Jackson can establish a bit of a grip on early down work tomorrow if he plays well.  I think Ty Montgomery could be a season changer, but he's not a RB (yet -- there's a *chance* in Yahoo).

Gillislee may also be a hit right now -- McCoy injured his hamstring in practice.  He's got a history with these things... let's see what happens.

 
Just to fan that Booker flame a little more, this was from Jeff Legwold from ESPN:

Likely just coach speak, but not quite the coach speak I would want to hear if I was holding Anderson but not Booker. Sounds like we may be headed towards a full blown committee.
Per Cecil on the waiver wire podcast, Kubiak explicitly stated that getting Booker more work would *not* be coming at CJ's expense.  Kubiak, per Lammey, said that the team needed to run the ball more.  Essentially, they're happy with CJ, and rather than Booker's increased work coming from the same pie (thus shrinking CJ's share), the talk is that they'll grow the pie.

Trevor Siemian should never throw the ball 50 times like he did against SD.

 
We're about to find out soon if Mike Davis is any good, with the 49ers saying Hyde looks doubtful for Sunday.  About as good as you can do for a guy probably no one picked up with the Knile Davis rush.

I think we're also about to get a look at Don Jackson... I don't think Knile is very good, so Jackson can establish a bit of a grip on early down work tomorrow if he plays well.  I think Ty Montgomery could be a season changer, but he's not a RB (yet -- there's a *chance* in Yahoo).

Gillislee may also be a hit right now -- McCoy injured his hamstring in practice.  He's got a history with these things... let's see what happens.
M. Davis, K. Davis, and M. Gillislee all candidates for my RB2 this weekend. Sad.

 
Quizz Rodgers may still have some runway...
What about Antone Smith getting some playing time against this god awful SF run D? Giving Quiz a breather. Antone has been known to have some long catch and runs in his not to distant past and could take one to the house this Sunday if given some playing time. Anyone looking to pick him up? A dart throw for sure but could pay off.

 
Any thoughts on how you'd rank K. Davis, M. Gillislee, and J. Rodgers for the next 2-3 weeks?

Thinking:

1. Davis (Could run with it)

2. Rodgers (Martin out at least this week, maybe more?)

3. Gillislee (just reported that McCoy has a mild to moderate hammy strain.

 
Any thoughts on how you'd rank K. Davis, M. Gillislee, and J. Rodgers for the next 2-3 weeks?

Thinking:

1. Davis (Could run with it)

2. Rodgers (Martin out at least this week, maybe more?)

3. Gillislee (just reported that McCoy has a mild to moderate hammy strain.
?

1. Rogers

2. Rogers

3. (tie) Gillislee and Davis

 
?

1. Rogers

2. Rogers

3. (tie) Gillislee and Davis
This would be ranking not just for this coming week, but over the medium term as well.

It seems likely (or is it) that D. Martin comes back next week. That's why I ranked him lowest.

For this week, there's no question J. Rodgers is #1. All of Bloom/Dodds/Tremblay just ratcheted projections through the roof for him.

So for this week:

1. J. Rodgers

2. M. Gillislee

3. K. Davis

For the next 2-4 games:

1. K. Davis

2. M. Gillislee

3. J. Rodgers

?

 
The problem is that Knile isn't very good and doesn't know the playbook. Totally plausible to me between Jackson and Montgomery that there's no opportunity for Davis, and he's emergency depth. 

 
I'll dust one off from the dark and misty past...  Ahmad Bradshaw. I know he is unsigned and that he is 30 (so is Tim Hightower who is listed in this thread) and always was nicked up and often out of action.

But I thought it seemed he still had a little gas left in the tank when last seen with the Colts.  Unless there is definite news indicating the end of his playing career, I am a little surprised that he hasn't seemed to get any update-the-emergency-list from any team (or from the Colts themselves).

Any Bradshaw news/sightings?

 
 Well I hope you boys went out and picked up Mike Gillislee FOR FREE when I told you to.

I brought him up on September the 28th in this thread, then I  really spotlighted him on October the 8th. https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/746681-2016-rb-lotto-ticket-rankings/?do=findComment&comment=19483600

 I was fortunate to get him in the one league I have Shady,whew. But I do want to exercise a bit of caution, and its one small nitpick I saw on Gillislee last year.  He seems to have an upright running style, and his shoulders tend to "sway"  back and forth when he runs.

 Watch this  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMk6MruQkKo

 Now I am not a big film study guy, but it seems to stand out like a sore thumb.  I first see it right around the :36 mark on his second run.   I noticed it in brief glimpses last year. You can also see it from behind in a later run. He also seem to be very "loose" with the ball, and its well away from his body at times, more so when he gets a head of steam.

Not being critical, only just pointing out I see him as more of a "real handcuff", essentially a stop-gap until you can start someone else. Of course, a massive workload trumps all in our fantasy games, so that is the most important thing. He should indeed get that if he gets the start. Its not like they are going to suddenly turn into an all out aerial attack, this is the Bills led by Rex Ryan after all.

 I also snagged Jacquizz in one league.  I think hes a "2 week splatter" at best, but we shall see.  If Martin can't get right, then he may be decent down the stretch.

 QUICK EDIT- I do want to go on record and admit I was wrong on Shaun Draughn. Well, at least it looks that way at this point. MIKE DAVIS looks like he will get the better end of the committee. Of course its too early to know for sure, but its not exactly what I was anticipating, at least from the words coming out of the 49ers camp. Mike Davis looked so damn bad last year in the few clips I saw, I had discounted him completely.

 I'll be looking over things and scenarios later and try and sniff out a few more lotto tickets for the next few weeks.

 Of course I will post it when I see anything of note.

 TZM

 
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This would be ranking not just for this coming week, but over the medium term as well.

It seems likely (or is it) that D. Martin comes back next week. That's why I ranked him lowest.

For this week, there's no question J. Rodgers is #1. All of Bloom/Dodds/Tremblay just ratcheted projections through the roof for him.

So for this week:

1. J. Rodgers

2. M. Gillislee

3. K. Davis

For the next 2-4 games:

1. K. Davis

2. M. Gillislee

3. J. Rodgers

?
Rodgers has Oakland in TB next week too

 
Bump with updates in red.  Added J. Rodgers to the "Too Late" list as he was most likely picked up in WW by now no longer qualify as preemptive.

Also added Don Jackson GB RB who was reported to be running with the 1's in practice yesterday.  I picked him up in one of my leagues.

What possible Season Changing / Champion Maker (Lotto Ticket) RB's are out there on waivers (or possibly a buy low)?  RB's who could put up Top 5 RB numbers ROS.  We are talking preemptive.

To paraphrase @TZMarkie : "This is for re-draft and we are looking for the ones with the best combination of availability, upside and possibility of a big workload. That combination would likely give the average owner the best chance at hitting the "lottery ticket RB" that could change an owners season."

Potential Season Changers / Champion Makers - Here is my Post-Week-6 list, loosely ranked:

  • D. Booker DEN - big defense holds game scripts on a team that wants to run, usage is trending up, trend continued Oct 13 v DEN - Here's the thread on Booker: Devontae Booker
  • D. Williams PIT - did well last year when Bell was out (twice) - Bloom *continues* to advise to hold him at all costs in The Audible
  • A. Morris DAL - still looks good on a team that wants to and can run the ball
  • B. Powell NYJ - Bloom has recently stated in a pod cast that Powell could be a #1 given the chance - UPDATE: the Jets looked inept Oct 17 - does Powell belong on this list?
  • D. Henry  TEN - another team that wants to run the ball - has looked really good in limited opportunities
  • M. Gillislee BUF - another team that wants to run the ball all day - volume play here - Oct 16: it was SF after all but a nice 6-60-1 line
  • Mike Davis SF FROM ROTOWORLD: (Oct 17) thanks to  @JFS171 :  "Mike Davis rushed five times for 13 yards and caught 1-of-3 targets for six yards Week 6 against the Bills.  When Carlos Hyde briefly left the game with a shoulder injury, Davis took over instead of Shaun Draughn. Davis out-snapped Draughn 24-to-5 and out-touched him 6-to-1. It is only one game, but it looks like Davis is establishing himself as Hyde's handcuff. " UPDATE:  I replaced Draughn with Davis on this list
  • Rawls SEA - a ton of potential - OL issues didn't seem to matter last year with his 5+ YPC - nervous owners may have dropped him
Honorable Mention (potential top 12 ROS) (no particular order):

  • Rob Kelley WAS - per @zamboni "(HC) said (Oct 9th) that while Jones is still the guy, Kelley deserves more carries" - is this a changing of the guard situation? How good is WAS OL? - Oct 16: 5-59-0 <-- nice line but Jones also had a nice 16-135-1 line - I thought PHI's defense was good??
  • K. Dixon  BAL - wasn't used much his 1st week back but I *love* players on teams that fire their HC/OC - the new coach often shakes things up increasing fantasy value - looks like it's West's show going forward
  • Dwayne Washington DET - on a team with a mediocre defense and a tendency to pass anyway, how much production? - Zenner went 14-58-0 Oct 16 perhaps he is the Lotto Ticket in DET?  per @BobbyLayneNo. Yesterday (Oct 16) was a desperation game plan - Boldin playing Ebron's role, Tate playing Riddick's role, Zenner was effective but he's the clear #3 behind Swaggy and Theo (#4 if AA ever comes back in 2016 but that seems unlikely.)
  • W. Smallwood PHI -  4-6-0 Oct 16 while Matthews went 9-60-0 and 3-75-0 receiving 
  • Dion Lewis NE - see DJ Foster below
  • DJ Foster NE - per @JFS171 "he could've scored twice on Sunday Oct 9th (Brady's first game back)" - could he supplant Dion Lewis regardless of Lewis' health?
  • Farrow SDC
  • A. Ellington ARZ
  • Malcolm Brown STL
  • DeAndre Washington OAK - per @need2know "The 3 way split becomes a 4 way when Murray gets back.  Horrible situation for fantasy" - used more than Richard Oct 16
  • Jalen Richard OAK - thanks to @davearm for this one and per @austinball "Im seeing just as may "experts' whispering that he's the more talented explosive back as DW. Personally I think JR looks speedier" - out used by DeAndre Washington Oct 16
  • Paul Perkins NYG - thanks @austinball Can he produce like a Top 5 RB if he gets the chance?
  • Hightower - thanks to @Rodrigo Duterte who states "would be an automatic RB2" - I've added him to the Honorables as I don't see him as a Season Changer / Lotto Ticket
  • Don Jackson GB - running with the 1's in practice Oct 19th
Too Late for preemptive pickup (the cat is outta the bag) - at least in my two 12 team leagues these guys are long gone:

  • Howard CHI
  • Ware KC -  He is a "must roster, must hold" for sure now and if available will be a hot WW pickup this week.
  • Knile Davis GB - whatever his production, highly likely to be rostered by now and does not qualify as a preemptive
  • Jay Ajayi MIA - whatever happens in MIA, highly likely to be rostered by now and does not qualify as a preemptive
  • J. Rodgers TBB - was likely taken off waivers after his breakout 30 carry Oct 16 game
P.S. I started a similar thread for WH/TE here:  2016 WR (and TE) Lotto Ticket Rankings

 
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After what happened with McCoy, the owners of DJ, Murray and Gordon better be smart and sign the backups. I know Derrick Henry was likely owned in many leagues, but I am seeing him getting dropped. DH isn't a 1:1 with DeMarco, but with the rushing attempts and the big lanes the Titans are creating, DH can can be a close approximation. Ellington can't do what DJ does. He can't even really approximate it. However, he is a player that has both flashed in limited work and been a steady producer with volume. I am not sure he could stay healthy, but he would be a high end RB2 for as long as it lasted. The Chargers seem to do  2 things really well: get their players hurt and score a lot of points. That's a great recipe for Kenneth Farrow. Gordon seems to be playing pretty average football but falling into a lot of RZ carries. Farrow is a big back back that seems plenty capable of scoring those Gordon TDs. 

 
After what happened with McCoy, the owners of DJ, Murray and Gordon better be smart and sign the backups.

The Chargers seem to do  2 things really well: get their players hurt and score a lot of points. That's a great recipe for Kenneth Farrow. Gordon seems to be playing pretty average football but falling into a lot of RZ carries. Farrow is a big back back that seems plenty capable of scoring those Gordon TDs. 
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Good points.........

 Farrow is a bigger back, and as much as we all want to ignore him, for whatever reasons (including lack of carries). its time for many of us to snag him or start thinking about him in the appropriate spots..

FULL DISCLOSURE - Most following this thread will know that I have been high on Farrow for weeks. Its not that I think he is uber talented, its more that he is a bigger back than Gordon that can essentially "do it all" in the event of a Gordon injury. Often when things fall just right, we as owners only need 1-2 weeks of "solid" production to get us through a spell while we wait on other more talented backs to get healthy. You never really know what will happen late season, and this situation screams of attention.

Not that Farrow is a must add, just keep him on your radar. Here is a newsflash, Melvin Gordon isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, but hes getting good volume and scoring a strong amount, and realistically thats all we need as fantasy owners. This looks to be  a prime situation for Farrow, in the event of a Melvin Gordon injury.

 You might be surprised to know that I own Farrow in not even a single league.....simply put I have more obvious options even though in 3 leagues i have Melvin Gordon. (and had Woodhead cuffing him, but promptly lost him to IR) As the playoff picture starts materializing in my leagues, I will probably find a way to get him on my roster in the leagues where I own Gordon. (I have Gordon in 3/4 money leagues)

 I urged McCoy owners to get Gillislee weeks ago. He is in another situation that looks like he will get plenty of work, in the event of a LeSean McCoy injury, which apparently a minor injury has occurred. Hopefully it won't last and McCoy will be back to work shredding other teams in a week or two.  Gillislee should make for a solid RB2 for the length of time he starts. I have my slight issues with Gillislee as I noted above, but yet again volume should be his friend, and he should be serviceable if he has to takeover for McCoy.

 TZM

 
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Good points.........

 Farrow is a bigger back, and as much as we all want to ignore him, for whatever reasons (including lack of carries). its time for many of us to snag him or start thinking about him in the appropriate spots..

FULL DISCLOSURE - Most following this thread will know that I have been high on Farrow for weeks. Its not that I think he is uber talented, its more that he is a bigger back than Gordon that can essentially "do it all" in the event of a Gordon injury. Often when things fall just right, we as owners only need 1-2 weeks of "solid" production to get us through a spell while we wait on other more talented backs to get healthy. You never really know what will happen late season, and this situation screams of attention.

Not that Farrow is a must add, just keep him on your radar. Here is a newsflash, Melvin Gordon isn't exactly lighting the world on fire, but hes getting good volume and scoring a strong amount, and realistically thats all we need as fantasy owners. This looks to be  a prime situation for Farrow, in the event of a Melvin Gordon injury.

 You might be surprised to know that I own Farrow in not even a single league.....simply put I have more obvious options even though in 3 leagues i have Melvin Gordon. (and had Woodhead cuffing him, but promptly lost him to IR) As the playoff picture starts materializing in my leagues, I will probably find a way to get him on my roster in the leagues where I own Gordon. (I have Gordon in 3/4 money leagues)

 I urged McCoy owners to get Gillislee weeks ago. He is in another situation that looks like he will get plenty of work, in the event of a LeSean McCoy injury, which apparently a minor injury has occurred. Hopefully it won't last and McCoy will be back to work shredding other teams in a week or two.  Gillislee should make for a solid RB2 for the length of time he starts. I have my slight issues with Gillislee as I noted above, but yet again volume should be his friend, and he should be serviceable if he has to takeover for McCoy.

 TZM
Farrow screams Tim Hightower to me. 

 
Farrow screams Tim Hightower to me. 


 I assume you are meaning the "Tim Hightower that helped fantasy owners for a stretch in 2015". Meaning = situation and necessity turned into better than expected numbers. Kind of an "out of nowhere" guy, which is exactly what Farrow would be to your average fantasy owner. Lets face it, pretty much no one knows Farrow. Out of 12 average Joe fantasy players, I'm betting 11 have never heard of him, and the scant few that do are "worried" Melvin Gordon owners.

 That is sort of what I think of, though the little bit of game tape I have seen (largely preseason this year) seems to look like Farrow can be better than Hightower.

I'd have to go back and watch again, but I think he is a fair pass catcher, plus he could be very effective in goal line situations. In other words I think he could be better than Hightower was.....even though I remember Hightower getting a bunch of scores in a small game sample size.

 It really seems as though San Diego just isn't even using Farrow at all, its like they are ignoring him and setting themselves up for disaster if Gordon gets hurt. It makes no sense that he isn't even being used to spell him a bit here and there, just to give Gordon a breather occasionally. (not to mention this would help Farrow get some work, just in case something bad happened) I know I mentioned this elsewhere though.

 TZM

 
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 I assume you are meaning the "Tim Hightower that helped fantasy owners for a stretch in 2015". Meaning = situation and necessity turned into better than expected numbers. Kind of an "out of nowhere" guy, which is exactly what Farrow would be to your average fantasy owner. Lets face it, pretty much no one knows Farrow. Out of 12 average Joe fantasy players, I'm betting 11 have never heard of him, and the scant few that do are "worried" Melvin Gordon owners.

 That is sort of what I think of, though the little bit of game tape I have seen (largely preseason this year) seems to look like Farrow can be better than Hightower.

I'd have to go back and watch again, but I think he is a fair pass catcher, plus he could be very effective in goal line situations. In other words I think he could be better than Hightower was.....even though I remember Hightower getting a bunch of scores in a small game sample size.

 It really seems as though San Diego just isn't even using Farrow at all, its like they are ignoring him and setting themselves up for disaster if Gordon gets hurt. It makes no sense that he isn't even being used to spell him a bit here and there, just to give Gordon a breather occasionally. (not to mention this would help Farrow get some work, just in case something bad happened) I know I mentioned this elsewhere though.

 TZM
That is exactly what I meant. Last year, probably a day before Ingram went on IR, 11 of  12 owners assumed Hightower had long been out of the NFL. Hightower was 4 week must start monster. In 4 weeks as the starter, he put up 456 total yards, 4 TDs  and 12 receptions. It wasn't because Hightower was particularly good. He was just the only show in town on a high scoring team. 

 
So are people assuming that McCoy's injury is going to keep him officially sidelined for awhile?

Or is going to be one of those weekly game day decisions where he either is out or starts and has to leave early in the game or just stumbles to a bunch of pedestrian outings.

Or will he be fine next week?

 
So are people assuming that McCoy's injury is going to keep him officially sidelined for awhile?

Or is going to be one of those weekly game day decisions where he either is out or starts and has to leave early in the game or just stumbles to a bunch of pedestrian outings.

Or will he be fine next week?
I assume we will get more info over the next few days. It is impossible to know right now,  but mild to moderate sounds like he will miss at least this week. 

 
We know little right now. The term mild is very encouraging. Waitcfor practice reports today n friday but i doubt he sees the practice field. Game time decision this week

 
He had three carries last week. I doubt he gets much more than that
Roto..

ESPN Packers reporter Rob Demovsky said WR Ty Montgomery "will get the majority of the running back reps" Thursday night against the Bears.

Montgomery was used heavily in the backfield even with Eddie Lacy (ankle) active last week. With Lacy out and newly-acquired Knile Davis working with the scout team as recently as Tuesday, Montgomery will get the vast majority of backfield work against the Bears. He is a great option in PPR leagues and should push for standard value as well.
 
So are people assuming that McCoy's injury is going to keep him officially sidelined for awhile?

Or is going to be one of those weekly game day decisions where he either is out or starts and has to leave early in the game or just stumbles to a bunch of pedestrian outings.

Or will he be fine next week?


 If he in fact sits this week, (and they win again)  it wouldn't shock me if they held him out until week 11, after their week 10 bye.

This would give him an extended time to heal, and the Bills sitting at 5-2 (if they win Sunday)  wouldn't necessarily need him to rush back. It would also allow them the extra time to  let him heal up and focus on the softer late season schedule. (they have New England and Seattle in weeks 8-9) The schedule then gets much easier.

 You never know, but a win this week would make me think there is no need to rush him back just yet. Its not like they would be out of it at 5-2.

 TZM

 
We know little right now. The term mild is very encouraging. Waitcfor practice reports today n friday but i doubt he sees the practice field. Game time decision this week
The GTD tag is going to suck for those counting on Gillisee as I could easily see McCoy getting the start, causing Gill owners to bench him, then McCoy bowing out early.

 
 If he in fact sits this week, (and they win again)  it wouldn't shock me if they held him out until week 11, after their week 10 bye.

This would give him an extended time to heal, and the Bills sitting at 5-2 (if they win Sunday)  wouldn't necessarily need him to rush back. It would also allow them the extra time to  let him heal up and focus on the softer late season schedule. (they have New England and Seattle in weeks 8-9) The schedule then gets much easier.

 You never know, but a win this week would make me think there is no need to rush him back just yet. Its not like they would be out of it at 5-2.

 TZM
Maybe but I think the Bills want the Pats and Seahawks spending time game planning for McCoy not Gillisee (however you spell it).

 
Roto..

ESPN Packers reporter Rob Demovsky said WR Ty Montgomery "will get the majority of the running back reps" Thursday night against the Bears.

Montgomery was used heavily in the backfield even with Eddie Lacy (ankle) active last week. With Lacy out and newly-acquired Knile Davis working with the scout team as recently as Tuesday, Montgomery will get the vast majority of backfield work against the Bears. He is a great option in PPR leagues and should push for standard value as well.
Interesting

 

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