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That doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. If other guys are getting clean driving lanes or not getting doubled in the post b/c they're staying home on Jones, then he's serving a purpose out there on offense. He's certainly shown that he can knock down the 3 and you can't overlook what he brings us on d where we're not very strong. I'd rather have Jones playing their best perimeter guy then wearing down Allen or Kennard.
I've seen this comparison as well. different body types but I guess maybe it makes some sense.
His body/size reminds me more of Gay or DeRozan, but he plays like Pierce (and Tatum isn't that far from the "fit" championship Celtics Pierce's size). His ability to go through the defenders body and then play off the defender who is expecting that contact with that fade-away is special.
Seeing this happen again made me think of Suarez immediately. It almost seems compulsive for Allen.
Agree, and I'll psycho-analyze further...
)The "I'm a somewhat reasonable sounding new guy" phase of a new Ripleys alias is always kinda boring. Can we skip ahead?Allen deserves the suspension. There is no place for that crap on a basketball court. Twitter world is exploding over this, and the the picture of K as the Cobra Kai leader
I know their rivals are having a field day with this, but if I'm a tarheel fan I'd be a lot more worried about the new Notice of Allegations which now includes the "extra benefit charge" while naming the Men's Basketball and Football programs. Plus they added the timeline to include 2002-2011 seasons. Pretty serious stuff. After seeing what happened to Syracuse, could the tarheels be stripped of the titles they won during that time?
So why the reversal by Coach K after one more incident that occurred 10 months later? Could it be because of the difference in the season situations?
What really makes this incident any different than the second incident last season (the one that earned Allen a reprimand from the ACC)? After that, Coach K said the following:
So why the reversal by Coach K after one more incident that occurred 10 months later? Could it be because of the difference in the season situations?
Last year: 2nd tripping incident in FSU game. 3 regular season games remaining (@PIT, Wake, UNC). Duke was 'just' (for Duke) 10-5 in conference at the time and had a lot less talent on the roster than they do this year.
This year: ACC season hasn't started. Next 3 regular season games all likely easy wins with or without Allen (@VT, GT, BC).
Basically, it looks like Coach K felt he couldn't afford to suspend him last season, so he defended that the action shouldn't require a suspension... but this year he can afford to suspend him, so now Allen's actions "aren't consistent with the standards of Duke basketball."
ETA: Allen is really lucky no opponent has punched him in the face over his dirty play. Heck, he's lucky none of his teammates have done it... (or maybe they have in practice and we just don't know it).
I am not aware of a single example of an ACC player having as many as three incidents of dirty play that is so far out of the acceptable norms of the game. So I'm not aware of any coach giving warnings twice for such incidents then suspending the player. Do you have any examples that are actually comparable to this situation?
He claims he didn't see it (which makes sense, as we was talking to the officials trying to determine what was going to be called). That being said, Scheyer (who basically had to physically restrain allen) has a responsibility to let him know at half time. Not sure if he's got the kind of cache to tell K that Allen should be sat down. That's probably not his call to make. Maybe Capel would have the credibility to do it, but Scheyer probably hasn't earned that.
I agree with a lot of your post, except maybe the part about them possibly losing to VT. But this is a little over the top. Especially when you consider what a conspiracy-minded person who finds significance in the alma maters of powerful people could dream up about, say, the NBA.
You don't think Skipper would rather push a negative Duke story over a negative UNC story? Just looking at the ESPN.com home page right now...there are 5 separate articles/videos about Allen and ZERO mention of the new UNC letter of allegations.
I think he pushes what sells, and it's fairly obvious that the Allen story is way more interesting than the mundane details of the second amendment to the notice of allegations, how it alters one of the five allegations, whether the NCAA followed its bylaws, or any other boring stuff about the ANOA that would only interest UNC, Duke and State fans.
Well, considering that rule was in effect before Silver took over (and was in effect for 4 years before it even affected Duke) I think that's a bit of a stretch. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree that its a direct comparison. While Silver might be in favor of the one and done rule, he doesn't have direct control of it. He works for the owners so if they wanted it to be gone, it would be. I think it would be fair to say that Skipper has more autonomy at his job than Silver does at is. You might disagree, and that's fine.
I agree that they're being a more than a little over the top from what I've seen on the internets But considering that one of the main voices of outrage coming from ESPN was Jason Williams, I doubt collegiate affiliation has much to do with it.
Apparently you didn't read this part of my post:
I don't think Coach K is a "selfish monster." I think he is one of the 2-3 best college basketball coaches of all time. From what I know, I think he conducts himself with reasonably good integrity, especially for major college basketball, which can be quite a sleazy business.
Williams and Bilas both go out of their way to show just how "unbiased" they can be towards Duke. Williams claiming he should be suspended for 5 games was beyond silly. That's almost twice what Marcus Smart got for going into the stands and punching a fan in the face.
He's got some arrogance to him for sure. His initial comments last night were a bit much no question. But its probably not easy having a bunch of idiots reporters tell you how they think you should run your program. They have no idea.Apparently you didn't read this part of my post:
I don't think Coach K is a "selfish monster." I think he is one of the 2-3 best college basketball coaches of all time. From what I know, I think he conducts himself with reasonably good integrity, especially for major college basketball, which can be quite a sleazy business.
But I despise the elitist arrogance he and some Duke fans radiate at times. He could admit he made a mistake here without tarnishing the program or his image/accomplishments. Instead, he has an arrogant attitude about it. It's not surprising, but it doesn't make him a monster. It just makes him hypersensitive and hypocritical.
So the UNC guys and the Duke guys are both biased against Duke, which just by sheer coincidence is your favorite team. It's amazing Duke basketball is able to win any games at all with these shadowy forces conspiring against them.
Maybe that didn't come out right. I'm not saying Williams or Bilas hate Duke or anything, but when you compare the way they act vs they act towards Duke vs the way Hubert Davis or Stuart Scott (RIP) talked about UNC on the air (or the way Van Pelt covers Maryland, or the way Len Elmore acted when he called Duke games ) its a pretty obvious difference. And I think part of that is because the public simply isn't going to accept a blatant Duke honk on the air.
I'm pretty sure I heard K say that exactly. I believe it was something to the effect of, "we didn't do enough and will have to do more".
Pretty sure Mr. Vitale is a honk for everyone. When he calls UNC and Kentucky games, he is equally effusive with his praise of their programs and coaches.
I didn't hear that. I heard him say it doesn't end here, there will be more interaction between him and Allen, i.e., Coach K will continue leading/mentoring him after the suspension ends. Maybe the clip I saw didn't show everything.
