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2018 US Open - Shinnecock! (1 Viewer)
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facook
Footballguy
"Dilly dilly!!!" "Getindahoooooohhhhlllll" (when the guy is teeing off on a 500 yard hole) "WeluvPAULINA!!!!!" Buncha drunk dbags. You aren't the show. Shut the eff up.
Galileo
Footballguy
The worst are those d-bags at baseball games yelling "WOOOOO" repeatedly. I don't know why, but that is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
Crazy to me how upset people get by people yelling something at a golf tournament...probably the same dudes who pissed down their leg first time they stepped in a batters box in little league and then quit playing sports.......
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Pipes
Footballguy
facook
Footballguy
I can tell how manly YOU are by your cleavage avatar. I won't compare our relative athleticism, though I have no fear there. But now I'm pretty confident you are a fan of Jersey Shore and think "real men" are like the guys on Sopranos. All I need to know. Enjoy your hair gel, "guns", and tanning bed.Also, I apologize in advance because Vodka is a thing and I will regret engaging you in the morning. Still, it's a Situation.
Galileo
Footballguy
Pipes
Footballguy
It’s just incredibly stupid. No one wants to hear a bunch of middle age dorks trying to one up each other.
facook
Footballguy
I will shut up now and let Galileo and Pipes speak for me and the rest of civilization.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
Seriously ...?...with all the things said at sporting events world wide....why do people lose their minds about some guy yelling “mashed potatoes”...?
Also, I apologize in advance because Vodka is a thing and I will regret engaging you in the morning. Still, it's a Situation.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
For all the “dbags” yelling mashed potatoes...there are about the same number that actually care about it....
belljr
Footballguy
Galileo
Footballguy
Stinkin Ref
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Jayrok
Footballguy
DJ missed a few shorter putts that really did him in. Meanwhile, Brooks was 
with the flat stick. Well deserved win.
I was pulling for a playoff with Fleetwood, though it seems it would be tough for Tommy to get up and get re-focused after 2 hours of waiting. But what an incredible round he had. I think he'll win himself a major sooner than later. Big fan.
with the flat stick. Well deserved win. I was pulling for a playoff with Fleetwood, though it seems it would be tough for Tommy to get up and get re-focused after 2 hours of waiting. But what an incredible round he had. I think he'll win himself a major sooner than later. Big fan.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Johnnymac
Footballguy
Fans are not the show. I dont watch golf tournaments to hear grown adult human beings acting like a bunch of 4 year olds. I would be embarrassed to do anything like that. It's idiotic and extremely annoying. These fans should be escorted from the premises imo.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
people yell all kinds of stuff at sporting events...who cares...I'm not a NE guy....I don't yell at golf tournaments, etc...I'm just not going to get my panties in a wad because some guy yells mashed potatoes or get in the hole....is it really that big of a deal....?....guess I should start letting it bother me so I fit in with the cool kids...
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Those yellers are the most annoying people in sports, if not the world. Every incident would be met with a donkey punch if the universe was fair.
culdeus
Footballguy
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. And I suppose the same argument could be made for this case, in the sense that he was going to end up in super jail not being able to get up and down so a hack back at the pin was probably +EV.
So I'm doing a 180 and saying he should have been DQed.
Rodrigo Duterte
Footballguy
Oh don't get me wrong, we know which one you are. Congrats, keep up the good work, champ.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Sorry GB but this is a weird take to me. Has nothing to do with respecting anything. It's basically cheating. As I said before, what if he had run up and tapped it in. A 2-stroke penalty in that situation doesn't do it justice. And I kind of like Phil but he was just being an #######.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
This happens all the time, especially at the British. I'm not saying I enjoy seeing the players getting screwed so I get the complaints about pin placements and the speed of the greens but it's mostly nonsense complaining about it being easier during different times.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
This is different than that though. DJ got hosed. He's had some really bad breaks in majors.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I get that he had a bad break but I don't see it as that much different. They admitted they had no idea it was going to be that windy and a couple of the pin placements were borderline - but they don't control the wind and the pins were the same for everyone.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
They may not have had an idea that the wind was going to be that bad, but they should have left themselves a buffer in case. They didn’t, they maxed it out in terms of difficulty. They got greedy and left themselves no wiggle room. There was a huge difference between the morning and afternoon groups because of that decision.
I was thinking about how the difference in conditions depending on what time you tee off can make. Not so much here, but lets say on a Sunday when it may be sunny in the morning and then a storm rolls in in the afternoon.
I wonder if they would ever let the leaders pick what time they wanted to tee off and work backwards. Meaning if you were winnning the tournament on Saturday night, you would get your choice of tee times on Sunday morning. Same with Friday going into Saturday. And the guy in last place gets whatever is left. If would be a reward for playing well early. If you knew after your round on Saturday that a storm was scheduled to come in early Sunday afternoon, but the morning was going to be beautiful, why wouldn’t you go ahead and take an early time. Granted you would be giving up the privilege of “knowing what you needed to shoot” and it might change some of your decisions, but if you know you are going to get crappy conditions that could cause you to lose the tournament, I could see wanting an earlier tee time.
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RUSF18
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
But again, we've seen that happen at the British numerous times over the years. They definitely made a mistake though.
Capella
Footballguy
Zero chance he ever does that at Augusta. He knew what he was doing, and that was giving the finger to the usga.
Capella
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Which they promptly did, throwing the reach around in gratis. Get Mike Davis out of there.
tommyboy
Footballguy
I'm not a purist but I play by the rules and am single digit. I have no problem with what Phil did given the circumstances.
Mike Davis should be fired. He's presided over the last several opens and each one of them has been criticized for setup.
Round three of this one they didn't account for the higher winds in the afternoon and let the greens bake out to a point that the course was virtually unplayable. This cost the later groups 4-8 strokes depending on your perspective. It's just insane to do that. If I wanted Mike Davis to determine the winners and losers, I'd have my own tourney and announce that Mike is going to crush you. That's not how the US Open is supposed to go. Its supposed to be a fair but very difficult test for all of them, not just the afternoon guys.
Mike Davis needs to be #### canned immediately. He's delusional.
Rodrigo Duterte
Footballguy
It's funny how serious golfers are. So pristine, so ethical, so honorable. Same swinging ##### have no problem ####### the living #### out of any human that gets in their way come 9AM on Monday.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Do other sports not have rules? Or are you referring to those who feel like some of the recent US Opens have been clown shows?
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gump
Footballguy
What I take from my analogy is the rule should be an automatic DQ if it’s deemed you hit a moving ball on purpose...too many grey areas now.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Phil's shot should have been referred to rule 1-2 as he purposely deflected the moving ball. The other ruling shouldn't have had further consideration once they determined he did it intentionally. Should have been disqualified. They didn't DQ him because he's Phil. 98% of the other golfers would have ended their day before completing the round.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I see nothing wrong with what Phil did. He used the rules to his advantage. He broke a rule but knew the corresponding penalty and then weighed his options. So don't be mad at Phil, be mad at the rule/penalty. Competitive golfers are ENCOURAGED to do this all the time, even at a young age in high school/junior tournaments, etc. Especially in term of taking drops, etc. Players, teams, coaches, etc in all sports look to to use the rules to their advantage. BB in NE is a perfect example. They will look for things like this and an opportunity to use it (BAL game). The problem is not Phil....it is the rule. Change the rule if you have too. Was Phil in some way using this rule to give the finger....?...sure...but he also realized that breaking the rule and taking the penalty may have in fact been in his best interest under those conditions. It's actually brilliant in that it gives him an advantage and he gets to give the finger. 2 for 1.
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Stinkin Ref
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It's also kind of ironic that with all this talk about rules, course conditions, etc. that it was a man made obstruction (grandstands) that may have had the biggest impact on the outcome.
As an everyday hack, I would love to have 50 people help me find my ball on every hole and then have a huge grandstand ricochet my ball back towards the green with a perfect lie when I hit a god awful shot that would have ended up 50+ yards away from the green in thigh high fescue.
As an everyday hack, I would love to have 50 people help me find my ball on every hole and then have a huge grandstand ricochet my ball back towards the green with a perfect lie when I hit a god awful shot that would have ended up 50+ yards away from the green in thigh high fescue.
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Jayrok
Footballguy
I'm not mad at Phil. I've always liked him and don't blame him for being frustrated. The rule is also fine and doesn't really need to be changed. They just botched the interpretation and enforcement of it. I think Phil knew of the rule, but I don't buy that he knew exactly what penalty he was going to face. Beef Johnston said afterwards they laughed about it and Phil was wondering what they were going to do. He knew the 2 stroke penalty but I don't think he realized he did something that could get him DQ'd. After having time to think about it and letting everything soak in, of course he's going to tell the media he knew what he was doing and was only taking advantage of a rule. But I think at the time it was knee jerk reaction because he didn't want to hit it from way down there again.
As Patrick Reed said, if they had just put the hole on 13 two yards further from the edge, this would have never happened.
As Patrick Reed said, if they had just put the hole on 13 two yards further from the edge, this would have never happened.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Well, that's true. Brooks got a huge break with the grandstands there. And yes, when I play I'm the only dork looking for a ball in the thick rough. Those guys don't have to worry about losing balls.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I think the thing that bugged me the most was the complete lack of actual "fringe". The runoffs all around the greens were just crazy. I get it that if you hit a shot that is coming in hot you should pay the price and it should go off the green. But these guys hit good shots, that were barely rolling when trickling to the edge of the green and then just falling off the face of the earth. And I get it with players length these days and them coming in with short irons, they want to do something to toughen it up, but it was a little over the top.
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tommyboy
Footballguy
i think he was alluding to the idea that all golfers are evil white male capitalists.
tommyboy
Footballguy
This happens in all of the PGA tour events. I guess it's the flip side of having greens at 13-14 on the stimp and tees stretched out to 7500 yards.
