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If I were an NFL GM I'd go on vacation the first couple days of free agency.
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2019 Free Agent Signing Thread (1 Viewer)
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
I forgot about their Southwest division (Houston). There are literally now three other teams that are destinations for ex-Pats between the Dolphins, Lions, and Texans.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Just about right. I notice classically good teams are not the ones finishing these deals.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
And just 2 hours MFL posts Greg Olsen NOT leaving for TV job (to be clear not doubting your source, MFL could easily be wrong)
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Early front runner for worst move. 14.5 million a year for a guy who was a weaker link of a bad defense. Pretty much any LB taken in round 3 this year, is likely a much better player than Kwon, and not coming a major injury to boot.
A rumor this morning they were shopping Zach Brown and Mason Foster so could save a little there but probably not enough. They must have something up their sleeve, seems like Washington overspends nearly every year but somehow manages to figure it out. Maybe they loaded Collins contract in year 2 when they can cut Smith and spread the cap hit out into two years?
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I think more of an ego thing on the part of Mack and/or Gruden. Sounded like they never even communicated and it was pretty obvious Gruden was calling all the shots from the day he got there. Gruden is also an offensive minded guy so it's not that surprising he's focused on spending money and high draft picks on that side of the ball.Must be a locker room thing. They would prefer bringing in the better locker room guy in Brown.
caustic
Footballguy
He's not worth anything close to that! Gotta love the Bengals.
https://twitter.com/BackAftaThis/status/908722436463509504
ffmail4me
Footballguy
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(to be clear, probably good for his value in FF, but sucks as a Redskins fan. We now have ZERO WRs worth a chit on the roster)
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beef
Footballguy
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Every year I hope the Patriots will make a splashy move in FA. Then every year I see the (mostly) terrible deals handed to mediocre players and I remember why it's the right move to avoid these first few days of deals.
whoknew
Footballguy
This is it. This is the year. I can feel it.
Detroit Lions - Super Bowl LIV Champions!
kittenmittens
Footballguy
NFL Free Agency... Where dumb GMs sign mediocre and/or has-been players to stupid contracts.
The winning organizations just sit back and laugh.
The winning organizations just sit back and laugh.
You can pretty much tell who the good teams are by their inactivity. Why spend 5+ million on a guy when you can get the same level of production from a day 3 rookie for 5% of the price?
Or the good players, get paid like the best guys at the position. I like Landon Collins, but there are likely about 10 better safeties in the league, and none of them are making 14 million a year.
caustic
Footballguy
whoknew
Footballguy
Maybe you think they are mediocre, but of the Lions' signings:
Jesse James is 24 turning 25.
Justin Coleman is 25 turning 26.
Trey Flowers is 25 turning 26.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Meh, it's really just the Patriots that have success with it.
The Packers have wasted an entire career of Aaron Rodgers without making any big splashes to get him help. The Broncos spent a ton of money on big name FA defenders then won the Super Bowl with a great defense the next year. The Eagles brought in Nick Foles and Alshon Jeffery and then watched those two guys win the Super Bowl for them.
The Packers were contenders for a decade in large part because they didn't sign free agents to terrible contracts.
caustic
Footballguy
4yrs/$88MM with $50MM guaranteed. The bag has been secured.
ETA: Bortles will be released soon. End of an era.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
The Packers were contenders for a decade because they had Aaron Rodgers. They won only 1 Super Bowl with a decade of the most efficient QB in NFL history because terrible Ted Thompson continued to preach about how you don't need to spend big money on defense and running backs while they got knocked out of the playoffs every year thanks to their bad defense and lack of a running game.
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Lol... these teams are so ####### dumb. Basically just a bunch of doofuses who treat GM as a part time job and Owners who do this as a hobby.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I think the Lions could turn gold into turds... Not saying those FAs are gold.
One of the problems is there are almost never any actual elite players that hit FA...
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Foles $50 mil guaranteed... I love it when you guys defend the intelligence of these front offices. A boil on the ### of Bill Belichick is having a better free agency period than about 50% of these GM’s.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Raiders = Steelers West. Lions = Patriots West.Rumor is Bell could also be a RAY-DA!
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whoknew
Footballguy
Well, yea. Its the Lions. So they are all going to somehow suck now. But that's an indictment of the Lions, not the players.
The argument that you should never sign free agents is silly.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Even the Packers and Patriots bring in players through FA when they need to, it's just a last resort and they don't spend huge money or think those FAs are anything more than role players on their already good team.
Filling that last hole via FA is a gamble that can pay off.. It can also turn you into the Saints for a few years of cap hell.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
No it isnt.
You should never sign free agents if you won't have enough money to sign your own home grown talent that you know fits your system.
Paying free agents instead of proven in house players is the fast track to failure in most cases.
Signing free agents to a crap team almost never works
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
If they were truly elite they would not be free agents. You plug holes and then prep for the draft.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
This. Really good players almost always get tagged or extended and never hit FA.
Even when they do hit FA, there is usually a reason....
Then you have to worry about if they will still be elite in the new system, and for how long.
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Oof, I like Foles and wish him success but that is way too much.
Weren't there people defending the Bortles extension last year?
whoknew
Footballguy
But that doesn't mean you shouldn't sign FAs.
Golden Tate was a very good WR for the Lions. He was an excellent FA signing.
Kurt Warner was a great signing. Same with Drew Brees. And Adam Vinitieri. And 1000 more.
There are good players, there are players to help with depth.
You just don't want to be stupid in free agency. But that goes with the draft too. And player development. And coaching. And re-signing your vets.
The rule should be, "Don't be stupid." Not, "Don't ever sign free agents."
tkrull
Footballguy
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
This is very true but even some of the best signings are only one year deals. Titans did this with Vaccaro and then extended him, same thing happened with James Farrior and the Steelers back in the day.
