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I don’t disagree that it sucks, but its more enjoyable than not competing for an extended period of time. You can go to the arena and see a pretty good game and one of the generations best players. There’s something to be said for that even if you’re not a title contender. Signed, a Kings fan.
I really don't get the continual focus on Ben Simmons and his FTs. I mean, has it become a common practice in the real world for most to make fun of someone who has a mental roadblock. I believe Ben has been working with a psychologist for close to 2 years now to work on his mental roadblocks and has conceeded that it is a process to overcome the anxiety provoking hurdles.
, though admittedly, it may be close to an end for me with Danny leaving and the love affair of Stevens as a Hall of Fame coach should quiet down.Maybe he should shoot FTs underhand like Rick Barry.I really don't get the continual focus on Ben Simmons and his FTs. I mean, has it become a common practice in the real world for most to make fun of someone who has a mental roadblock. I believe Ben has been working with a psychologist for close to 2 years now to work on his mental roadblocks and has conceeded that it is a process to overcome the anxiety provoking hurdles.
So we have a guy who has admitted in the past to having a mental hurdle he is trying to overcome, and all we have now is tons of fans, national media, and even some of the local media constantly crapping on him for having this mental obstacle he has been trying to overcome. Ben has done a great job of knowing this is an issue, and has stepped up his defense and other things more in his control at this time to help him overcome the FT deficiency.
Really hoping this is all just Ben-centric and fades sooner rather than later. I get it if the guy didn't work hard or put the time in to get better, but he definitely does all the time. Sam Cassel's main role is to work specifically with Ben Simmons, do people really think Sam Cassell is just letting Ben doing whatever he wants and not trying to help him?
If we can stop bashing players for having mental obstacles to overcome, that are possibly even an Axis 1 diagnosis, the world may be able to be a better place
ETA: all of the above excludes any player on the Celtics and their fanbase
Not sure who is defending it? I've said all along that Ben needs to improve his shooting. So has Modogg. Again making arguments when there is none. When we say something good about Ben, dozens of responses.
As Eisenhower said, "There are no atheists in foxholes, nor gentlemen at Costco".
One reason that it gets so much attention is that it is really confounding due to the obvious ability the guy has and how good a player he is. People wouldn't joke about it if he sucked all around. But people also just aren't good at processing a deficiency in a game that isn't caused by an obvious physical limitation, so often attribute it to a lack of work or desire.I really don't get the continual focus on Ben Simmons and his FTs. I mean, has it become a common practice in the real world for most to make fun of someone who has a mental roadblock. I believe Ben has been working with a psychologist for close to 2 years now to work on his mental roadblocks and has conceeded that it is a process to overcome the anxiety provoking hurdles.
So we have a guy who has admitted in the past to having a mental hurdle he is trying to overcome, and all we have now is tons of fans, national media, and even some of the local media constantly crapping on him for having this mental obstacle he has been trying to overcome. Ben has done a great job of knowing this is an issue, and has stepped up his defense and other things more in his control at this time to help him overcome the FT deficiency.
Really hoping this is all just Ben-centric and fades sooner rather than later. I get it if the guy didn't work hard or put the time in to get better, but he definitely does all the time. Sam Cassel's main role is to work specifically with Ben Simmons, do people really think Sam Cassell is just letting Ben doing whatever he wants and not trying to help him?
If we can stop bashing players for having mental obstacles to overcome, that are possibly even an Axis 1 diagnosis, the world may be able to be a better place
ETA: all of the above excludes any player on the Celtics and their fanbase
Maybe not mental illness, that's probably the wrong word to be using. But could definitely be a mental issue. I do find it funny that everyone seems to know how much he is working on it (when there's a lot of proof out there that he's working on it a lot).
Dude, I am a Sixers fan. Ben's free throw problems, as a point guard, can very well be what prevents this team from ever winning a championship.I really don't get the continual focus on Ben Simmons and his FTs. I mean, has it become a common practice in the real world for most to make fun of someone who has a mental roadblock. I believe Ben has been working with a psychologist for close to 2 years now to work on his mental roadblocks and has conceeded that it is a process to overcome the anxiety provoking hurdles.
So we have a guy who has admitted in the past to having a mental hurdle he is trying to overcome, and all we have now is tons of fans, national media, and even some of the local media constantly crapping on him for having this mental obstacle he has been trying to overcome. Ben has done a great job of knowing this is an issue, and has stepped up his defense and other things more in his control at this time to help him overcome the FT deficiency.
Really hoping this is all just Ben-centric and fades sooner rather than later. I get it if the guy didn't work hard or put the time in to get better, but he definitely does all the time. Sam Cassel's main role is to work specifically with Ben Simmons, do people really think Sam Cassell is just letting Ben doing whatever he wants and not trying to help him?
If we can stop bashing players for having mental obstacles to overcome, that are possibly even an Axis 1 diagnosis, the world may be able to be a better place
ETA: all of the above excludes any player on the Celtics and their fanbase
Yep, and modogg agrees with this (I think?) And so do I. It's like we have to start every post we make about him with "Ben needs to improve his FT percentage" just so people know that we agree with that.
Wilt shot 51% career FT percentage.
Ya, I definitely don't and never have disagreed that his talent and skills seem held back. He's already a top 25 player in the NBA, but could be top 10 with a better shot.
Everyone should. Mathematically. Ok everyone but like the 10 greatest shooters of all time. So basically everyone.
yeah, def. could be. who knows, but he has been working on it behind the scenes and i think fans that know the team well understand it is a process he is working on. All about process, and not results
What? I'd like to site the case of my eyeballs and basketball games on tv for the last decade vs. your Harden take. Durant is easily the best basketball player on the Nets. He's the rug that really ties the room together.
Yup. A player can have a major hole in their game, but a poor free throw percentage seems to draw the ire more than any other flaw (other than a lack of effort). Mainly because effort and free throws are things your average Joe feels they can do...so that Millionaire athlete certainly should be able to, etc.
1. I'm not a gambler unless you consider having a wife and four kids gambling
Yeah, glad i wasn't around as much or it wasn't pushed as much after the '17 draft when Markelle Fultz started his career in Philly. Man oh man, was that some head spinning back thenOne reason that it gets so much attention is that it is really confounding due to the obvious ability the guy has and how good a player he is. People wouldn't joke about it if he sucked all around. But people also just aren't good at processing a deficiency in a game that isn't caused by an obvious physical limitation, so often attribute it to a lack of work or desire.
It's kind of similar to one of my pet peeves about commentary in the NHL. Whenever an NHL team that loses a series as a favorite (see Toronto), invariably lack of desire, "they weren't even trying!" and those sorts of comments get thrown around like it's the obvious reason they lost. Sometimes you try hard and you get beat. Sometimes you try hard to improve an area of weakness and something gets in the way of your game.
Of course, another reason everybody here talks about him and the Sixers so much is that they're used to a certain someone making everything in here about the Sixers...
Not my job to ignore trolls. Maybe blame those trolling instead of those responding.
i personally find it more impactful to focus on what i can control instead of trying to change others but hey that’s just me and you can take that right to the bank brochacho
It's strange because if Ben shot 80% from the FT line and could hit 3s, but sucked at defense, he'd be regarded higher here.
Ah, now the personal shots. Seems some things from your adolescence have remained.
Probably
I don't really think that's accurate. Nobody sees his game and says "yeah, I don't really care that he's good at defense, rebounding and passing because he can't shoot FTs." I think it's more people look at him and say "man, if this guy was even an average shooter he would be a top-3 NBA player." Or something like that.Probably
Defense continues to be underrated by those who just check box scores and see his ft percentage. He does a lot of things very well that no one will admit without the "oh but..."
but here's the thing. they put Simmons on Li'l Ratbastage to start the 2nd half, without having run it in practice and it ended up with L'lR beating the trap with passes twice in a row and them giving up for reason i mentioned in a previous post.
1. How dare you!1. I'm not a gambler unless you consider having a wife and four kids gambling
2. I'm a fan of Atlanta and Georgia Tech sports team - I have constant Sports PTSD - there's no chance I'm spending my money AND watching them lose.
Having said that - I think the Sixers really focus on Young tonight (and probably the rest of the series), doubling him and get the ball out of his hands. I could easily see him going under if that's the case. He's shooting 6-10 but I wouldn't be confident in saying he hits 3+. Hoping Hunter can play to give us another body and decent 3 ball shooter. While I don't agree with Insein that 42% is otherworldly or anything, it's extremely doubtful Collins goes 4/4 again. And to further the point about it not being an outlier, Bog and Trae went a combined 9-23 (39%). Good but not great.
Not sure how much they can lean into defending him. ATL scored 19 points on the 15 possessions they doubled him in game 1 for a def rtg of 126.7
Maybe you weren't in here a few months ago when there was an uproar that he even was selected as an all-star. One guy even said he currently isn't a top 200 player in the league right now.
That is what I am thinking as well. If they over do it like the Lakers did against Curry during the play in game, then I think the Hawks have a good chance. The Hawks have a lot more capable scorers than the Warriors did this year.
Meh. Some people just say stuff to be outrageous. Others really do.....place a value on offense though. It's glaring how much his lack of shooting....changes the "shape" of the court for that offense. I really don't understand why a guy as coordinated and athletic as him can't become at least an average shooter. It's mind boggling.
I should have added that I think it could be to the Hawks benefit if they do - assuming the other guys step up. Or they could take the Knicks strategy and pick their Noel and tell him to rough Trae up.
Who knows. Maybe he just sucks at shooting and can't get better even if he practices 10 hours a day at it. This is the case for many NBA players. It's not always "practice makes perfect", or else everyone in the league would be shooting 80%. That's the thing about averages... there's always going to be people below the average, or else an average wouldn't exist. If the NBA average was 50%, no one would be griping.
I think we'll see more Ben on him but not the whole game.Trae Young has had a total of 42 possessions against Ben Simmons and has scored 8 points against him.
c'mon Doc, no mas Danny Green defending Trae
