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If they can hit on half of these and Mills lives up to his potential, the Texans could become really good quick.
He is retiring from the Houston Chronicle after 47 years with them. He is not retiring from covering NFL football, and he will still be a guest on Houston sports talk radio. As an old guy, John is pretty set in his opinions, but overall he is a good football guy and tells some great stories. I enjoy listening to him.
Have seen some mocks with Neal at 3 (seems more likely with Jax franchising Cameron Robinson) and then Houston trading up 4 or 5 spots from 13 for Hamilton. That’s a scenario that I would feel comfortable with.
I would trade him if I were them. He's got one year left and we're not likely to do anything this year. We have a TON of cap money next year so are likely spend in free agency. Which means if he plays out his contract and walks, we're likely to have incoming free agents who offset him to where we don't get a compensatory pick.
Based on what other contract year WRs have gone for, I think a 2 is probably pushing it. He's not in the Adams/Hill league.
All depends on price, I’d rather have an impact top prospect if it only costs a few late round picks. But I don’t put much value on anything past the 3rd round, even with a team this terrible that needs help even at depth spots, practice squad, and special teams
I agree that if Casserio is a good GM, then the Texans can be good sooner than a lot of people think. The Texans were saved from themselves when Flores sued the NFL and the Texans decided that hiring Lovie Smith looked better than hiring the no experience Josh McCown. Lovie is a decent coach. If Casserio drafts well this year and Mills develops into a decent QB, the Texans could be close to a .500 team this year.
I heard several commentators saying the Texans overpaid for Cooks. Well, the bottom line is his salary over the next 3 years will not prevent them from signing other free agents. So overpaying for him only effects Cal McNair and I think he has enough money to overpay a WR by a couple of million dollars. Cooks will help the Texans evaluate whether Mills will be a good QB. For that, I think it is worth overpaying Cooks.Buckna said:Well, gives Mills and whoever we most likely draft next year at QB a reliable target at least. They certainly have the cap space the next few years.
Last I saw we are projected at like ~$130MM in 2023 and that’s with Tunesil & Howard taking up $50MM between them, can’t imagine they don’t either offload or rework those contracts too.
Your last point is key. No, please no more projects, but building the team in 2022 like we’re a piece away from contending would be silly. Look for cornerstone pieces for 2023 or 2024 which is why we don’t need to rush positions of need if we need talent injections.Hoping for a trade down as well but don’t think it’s likely. I’ve warmed up reading mocks that have us taking Sauce Gardner or a DE at 3 and then best available OT at 13. Cooks is resigned and WR is deep so waiting for one at the top of the 2nd wouldn’t be bad IMO. Have seen mocks with a safety there as well that didn’t sound bad. I don’t think Spiller lasts to the 3rd but have seen a mock with us taking him there. Wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize compared to Breece who I think would be a luxury pick given the state of the roster.
This being the Texans though I have fully prepared myself to be ready to scratch my head and say “who?” or “why?” though
Edit: if he lasts, I would like Jameson Williams at 13, plenty of time with this team to let him fully heal and bring him along slowly.
I don't know, seems like Neal and Icky above all the rest. Not a case of a clear cut #1 but a case of a clearcut 1a and 1b.
Yeah, pretty moronic. I don’t care if there is run, this WR class is loaded with NFL talent so I hope they just go BPA. If that’s a WR when they’re on the clock then great, if not we still have Cooks and who knows, maybe you can trade for someone relatively cheaply since so many want to get traded and give them a massive contract. We have so much cap space next year it’s silly.Listening to radio today talking about the draft and I wanted to reach through the airwaves and throttle Landry Locker.
They were talking about Jameson Williams and had just the stupidest take. It went something like "Williams was going to be a top five pick before the ACL injury, and there's going to be a run on WR... so why would you wait to take one at 13, why not take Williams with the 3rd pick?"
Yes indeed, why not use the 3rd pick to take a guy that now falls outside of your top five... instead of, you know, using it to take one of your actual top three players?
If Williams made it to 13, great, then you found some great value. Taking him at 3 if you don't have him in your top 3 is just moronic.
Would be happy with Williams at 13, fine if he isn't available for awhile. Not like we're Super Bowl contenders. Another guy I'd love to see there is Jermaine Johnson.
Landry is known for his moronic takes. My favorite non football one is that "Coming to America" is one of the 5 greatest movies of all time. I am not even sure if it is in Eddie Murphy's top five movies. I do think his pairing with John Lopez makes him tolerable. They work well togetherListening to radio today talking about the draft and I wanted to reach through the airwaves and throttle Landry Locker.
They were talking about Jameson Williams and had just the stupidest take. It went something like "Williams was going to be a top five pick before the ACL injury, and there's going to be a run on WR... so why would you wait to take one at 13, why not take Williams with the 3rd pick?"
Yes indeed, why not use the 3rd pick to take a guy that now falls outside of your top five... instead of, you know, using it to take one of your actual top three players?
If Williams made it to 13, great, then you found some great value. Taking him at 3 if you don't have him in your top 3 is just moronic.
Would be happy with Williams at 13, fine if he isn't available for awhile. Not like we're Super Bowl contenders. Another guy I'd love to see there is Jermaine Johnson.
Yeah, Lopez is usually an enjoyable listen. He could use someone better to partner with.
Hmm, hadn't heard this. Though coming out two days before the draft, this is the timeframe the misinformation normally ramps up to try to get guys to slide. Hard to know how much stock to put in it.
Like Sean and Seth a lot. Both are good and they have great chemistry. Clint and Ron are the kings of hyperbole. Everything is either the greatest move ever or a horrible move. Not much in between. I listen to them but more because there is no good alternative.
I am hesitant to go DB that high even though I warmed up on the idea based on a bunch of mocks. Much like JAX at #1, there likely aren't any teams itching to move up that high. So if no trade down, then okay. I think I'd rather go with a DE or OT at 3 and then try to trade up for one of Gardner or Stingley. Gotta figure Carolina would be willing to move down cheaply with no picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. A 3rd and another later round pick or two should be close enough based on the draft value charts I looked at. Atlanta looks like another possible trade partner since they are also in a multi-year rebuild.
