2021 Philadelphia Eagles - Queued up a playlist of our greatest zits throughout the season for final game (1 Viewer)

[DJackson10]

Howie manuevered everything to get a QB that lead us to a super bowl. Then when he realized he made a mistake in paying him, he didn't double down just to prove he was right. He drafted his replacement just in case. Then got rid of him for another first. 

The guy has his deficiencies but he adapts on the fly and doesn't wait for things to just work out. He makes change happen. 

Not true. Doug wanted a developmental QB he could mold into his own and a younger QB to back up Wentz. So Howie having a rocky relationship gave him what he wanted similar to getting him Reagor instead of drafting the guy he and others wanted in Jefferson as peace offerings to Doug to mend the relationship. 

From what I was told the intention was to never have Hurts replace Wentz fully but be a Back up who could start you some games if Wentz went down. They also didn't want to have another situation as the playoff game where Wentz had a freak injury and had an old McCown who blow out his hammy playing and played on one leg. Contrary to popular belief Hurts was never suppose to dethrone Wentz as the guy here. Unfortunately unforeseen Circumstances happened and we are where we are now. It's also why there's a large contingency of guys on the Eagles staff who didn't or still don't think Hurts is a franchise QB. He was never drafted to be one here. 

However Howie did do a good job by not doubling down and getting resources back after his mistake. 

 

[DJackson10]

WE ARE SUNDAY AT 1

That works for me. Wedding on Saturday night, Eagles Sunday afternoon and after we probably lose I can get happy again seeing Halestorm that night. I'm also off that Monday too. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

If I'm the Eagles I hope a team like CAR calls to enquire about Dillard. They need a LT and if we could get more draft capital that'd be great. We got Stoutland who produces Lineman like they grow on trees so we got a luxury to trade from here as well IMHO 

Doubt they’d deal Dillard for anything meaningful. In addition, he’s actually played well and you’re already paying him. If he goes you’re also getting a comp pick that could be a lot soon. 

The 15 and 16 picks are interesting. That could be a prime place for a QB to go and we may be able to fleece someone for the following year. 

 

[DJackson10]

Ben is retiring.  Mason Rudolph = guaranteed win for you guys

What I meant was even with Ben retiring 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

That works for me. Wedding on Saturday night, Eagles Sunday afternoon and after we probably lose I can get happy again seeing Halestorm that night. I'm also off that Monday too. 

Im gonna throw a party and fire the smoker up. F-it lol

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Gannon has to watch those games against the Saints a few times. mix up the defensive looks a lot. Saints defense is not leaps above Eagles defense, so potential is there

And look, our coaching is a wild card here. Any wrinkle we have has to show here. There’s enough tape on TB and Bowles and we have an extra day of rest. Even if I lived elsewhere I’d be picking the Eagles this week as my upset 

 

[DJackson10]

I try to center myself for these picks. 

We had a bye essentially. Our best attribute is the run game and that usually travels well. In addition to that, I like where Sirianni is at with the offense and getting a second chance at this defense. 

Bucs are very banged up which should slow the offense down. We are not the same team they played earlier in the year in a few ways. They obviously have the GOAT but they have looked pretty average the last few weeks. 

Will Gannon change it up early?

We run well. TB has the ultimate run stopper in Vita Vea. Got a feeling our run game isn't going to be as great and will have to rely on the passing game a little more especially 2nd half. 

I think Bucs were just in auto drive honestly I think I see them turning it up and I think people aren't showing TB the respect they deserve right still. They are banged up sure but saw FOurnette is probably coming back, they got Brady and hey Got Evans and Gronk. Their LB's are great and their DL is pretty good and Like I said they got some really good run defenders outside of Vea too. I just don't see this as easy as some people do and I think this game wlll be a reality check for some. 

I'm usually one of the more optimistic people when it comes to the Eagles too. I just don't trust them yet and they are 0-6 vs Winning teams this year so if they win next week it'd be their first against a winning team all year. 

 

[fred_1_15301]

We run well. TB has the ultimate run stopper in Vita Vea. Got a feeling our run game isn't going to be as great and will have to rely on the passing game a little more especially 2nd half. 

I think Bucs were just in auto drive honestly I think I see them turning it up and I think people aren't showing TB the respect they deserve right still. They are banged up sure but saw FOurnette is probably coming back, they got Brady and hey Got Evans and Gronk. Their LB's are great and their DL is pretty good and Like I said they got some really good run defenders outside of Vea too. I just don't see this as easy as some people do and I think this game wlll be a reality check for some. 

I'm usually one of the more optimistic people when it comes to the Eagles too. I just don't trust them yet and they are 0-6 vs Winning teams this year so if they win next week it'd be their first against a winning team all year. 

Yeah I don't see them beating the Bucs but they're in the dance and anything can happen.  

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I just don't trust them yet and they are 0-6 vs Winning teams this year so if they win next week it'd be their first against a winning team all year

This key for sure. I just see a lot of value in playing them a second time and having an extra week to rest. We should be 100% and ready to go in good weather. Hoping it works in our favor. 

 

[DJackson10]

Doubt they’d deal Dillard for anything meaningful. In addition, he’s actually played well and you’re already paying him. If he goes you’re also getting a comp pick that could be a lot soon. 

The 15 and 16 picks are interesting. That could be a prime place for a QB to go and we may be able to fleece someone for the following year. 

Howie hasn't seen a deal he doesn't like before. Only reason he didn't try and fleece CHI for a 4th 1st this years draft was he wanted Devonta. Had their guy not been there Howie does that deal and doesn't look back. We then probably take one of Paye/Toney/Fairley there. 

Plus he's alll about maximizing picks. If he doesn't trade Dillard for picks in this draft I could see him doing it around Training camp or after the season when Value is higher in a QB deep draft since picks are valued higher in those years. 

 

[Insein]

It's early and maybe my mind will change as the week goes on, but I think the Eagles put up a fight but ultimately TBs experience pulls away. The game will come down to 2-3 key plays where we can't get off the field on 3rd and 17, we fumble in the red zone going for a score or just have an untimely 3 and out. 

TB 34 Phi 22

 

[DJackson10]

Yeah I don't see them beating the Bucs but they're in the dance and anything can happen.  

Yeah not saying it wouldn't surprise me. Just more of I think people are sleeping on TB and I think they were on Cruise control most of the second half this year given they knew they had that division wrapped up. Also TB's best Defense is our best offensive strength. Run defense 

 

[DJackson10]

This key for sure. I just see a lot of value in playing them a second time and having an extra week to rest. We should be 100% and ready to go in good weather. Hoping it works in our favor. 

I think I saw that game a lot differently the first time around then most.. Maybe it was the Outer Banks sea air or whatever (thats where I watched it from) but it wasn't pretty for us at all. We were never really in it and seemed like TB toyed with us most of the game and could've easily hung 40 up. Hurts only threw for 115 YDs a 1TD with an INT and most of that came in garbage time. We only lost by 6 but that loss felt more like we lost by more than 2TDs. No one side of the ball had a good night out there either 

 

[babydemon90]

I'm usually one of the more optimistic people when it comes to the Eagles too. I just don't trust them yet and they are 0-6 vs Winning teams this year so if they win next week it'd be their first against a winning team all year. 

First against a winning team?  I've heard several people say that. Are we pretending the Saints don't exist?

 

[DJackson10]

First against a winning team?  I've heard several people say that. Are we pretending the Saints don't exist?

Forgot about them but they are barely a winning team. Without the extra week they are a .500 team. and this was before the Saints won today BTW I saw that stat. 

 

[DJackson10]

Herbert is unbelievable. Mike Williams btw just made himself a bunch of money in FA this offseason 

 

[DJackson10]

I'm now blocked by Ryan Clark on Twitter!!! Mission accomplished 

 

[DJackson10]

Herbert is unbelievable. Mike Williams btw just made himself a bunch of money in FA this offseason 

Scratch that he's making even more now 

 

[DJackson10]

If that was Mike Williams last game as a Charger Jesus he just made himself a ton of money when he goes to his next team 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So many situations today where I say “what if that happened here”

The latest is we’d want Staley fired  lol

 

[Maggot Brain]

woot.  #### TB and #### TB!  GO BIRDS!!!!

I live on the Space Coast ....teeming with Brady/TB fans.....I'll be sporting my Wolverine jersey this week for sure.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni is the only first-year head coach from the 2021 hiring cycle to make the playoffs.

 

[DJackson10]

So many situations today where I say “what if that happened here”

The latest is we’d want Staley fired  lol

Staley's an interesting coach for sure. I like his aggressiveness but Jesus there's some frustrating times too 

 

[styleride85]

Probably after tomorrow nights game. I would think after tonight they'll have or know where they want teams and know depending on tomorrow nights results where it'd need to be changed easily. When we had 17 games a season the schedule was announced shortly after the SNF game ended. 

There's a game tomorrow night?

 

[modogg]

Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni is the only first-year head coach from the 2021 hiring cycle to make the playoffs.

nvr would have guessed this from weeks 1-5. Such a big fan of a coach who isn't so locked in with their own thoughts and is adaptable to playing with the team's strengths.

 

[modogg]

and sweet title @The Noid. i do think a lot of general NFL fans will be leaning with us this week to beat Brady in the playoffs. as for my guess for final score, i don't want to post it yet because only want positive vibes in here for this week. 

i'm very confident the game will be competitive, but i worry so much about a last minute drive by Brady to beat the Eagles as the game concludes. Would love the Eagles to pull it out, but i do think this game may fall on the defenses shoulders. would so much rather have Stafford in that final drive, but the cards have been dealt, so let's F up Brady again. 

would love nothing more then the cameras to show Brady walking the opposite direction of Hurts after the game to avoid shaking his hand. 

 

[babydemon90]

Forgot about them but they are barely a winning team. Without the extra week they are a .500 team. and this was before the Saints won today BTW I saw that stat. 

I mean not really - without the extra week, this week's game they won against a division rival woulda been earlier. I think the Titans game that they lost was the extra added game, so in a 16 week schedule they'd have been 9-7.

 

[modogg]

I mean not really - without the extra week, this week's game they won against a division rival woulda been earlier. I think the Titans game that they lost was the extra added game, so in a 16 week schedule they'd have been 9-7.

would have been pretty fascinating if the schedule were flipped and we played the tough teams in the 2nd half of the season, and had the easier schedule the 1st half. Wonder if they would have switched to the heavy running game plan, and wonder if the record would be better or worse than it is now. 

i do think the Eagles in the 2nd half of the season played better than the 1st half, so pretty interesting to think how it would have turned out

 

[babydemon90]

Worth a read...

https://twitter.com/thesarahyork/status/1480371733823635456

 

[Terpman22]

Howie manuevered everything to get a QB that lead us to a super bowl. Then when he realized he made a mistake in paying him, he didn't double down just to prove he was right. He drafted his replacement just in case. Then got rid of him for another first. 

The guy has his deficiencies but he adapts on the fly and doesn't wait for things to just work out. He makes change happen. 

This is the part here. We had McNabb for a very long time and drafted QB's behind him often, just in case. Just Donovan had some mental toughness. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Just Donovan had some mental toughness. 

He definitely did not have mental toughness. What he had was a HOF HC who knows how to work with players regardless of their issues. 

 

[Terpman22]

He definitely did not have mental toughness. What he had was a HOF HC who knows how to work with players regardless of their issues. 

Look if we want to compare the 2, its prob a 2.5 and 3 on the 1/10 scale of "mentally tough" but semantics still. 

No more Wentz talk from me. We got what we got out of him, over and done for good. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Look if we want to compare the 2, its prob a 2.5 and 3 on the 1/10 scale of "mentally tough" but semantics still. 

No more Wentz talk from me. We got what we got out of him, over and done for good. 

I agree. I just wanted to point that one part out. 

I’ll always have love for many of the players and coaches who helped that SB team, Wentz included. With that said, it was the right move to get rid of him when we did. I didn’t feel that way at the time but I’m good with it now. Who knows, we may flip back over next year lol

 

[Tom Hagen]

Speaking of McNabb, I'm trying to decide if he is kind of a best case comp for Hurts.  McNabb was probably more accurate than Hurts coming into the league but was never the most accurate passer.  If Hurts makes reasonable improvements in accuracy and decision making could he be a McNabb level QB?

 

[GoBirds]

I agree. I just wanted to point that one part out. 

I’ll always have love for many of the players and coaches who helped that SB team, Wentz included. With that said, it was the right move to get rid of him when we did. I didn’t feel that way at the time but I’m good with it now. Who knows, we may flip back over next year lol

Agreed, man did he the bed yesterday. Had flashbacks.  

 

[GoBirds]

Wait the poo emoji is really censored here? Really. 

 

[Terpman22]

Speaking of McNabb, I'm trying to decide if he is kind of a best case comp for Hurts.  McNabb was probably more accurate than Hurts coming into the league but was never the most accurate passer.  If Hurts makes reasonable improvements in accuracy and decision making could he be a McNabb level QB?

They are similar, but not sure. McNabb had a better arm, Hurts is more athletic, IMO. McNabb was a big of a bigger dude too, where Hurts seems a little more slim, quicker. 

Just think Jalen is going to be his own thing and hopefully a good/great thing.

 

[Amused to Death]

Speaking of McNabb, I'm trying to decide if he is kind of a best case comp for Hurts.  McNabb was probably more accurate than Hurts coming into the league but was never the most accurate passer.  If Hurts makes reasonable improvements in accuracy and decision making could he be a McNabb level QB?

How about Kyler Murray for a comp? I've only seen the Cardinals a few times but I thought Murray was comparable to Hurts.

 

[Tom Hagen]

How about Kyler Murray for a comp? I've only seen the Cardinals a few times but I thought Murray was comparable to Hurts.

I don't watch a lot of Cardinals games but I feel like Murray is a lot more accurate.  I'm trying to think of a QB that had sustained success without ever having great accuracy passing.

 

[Terpman22]

How about Kyler Murray for a comp? I've only seen the Cardinals a few times but I thought Murray was comparable to Hurts.

I agree to a little bit of a degree. Those dudes that use to be pitchers are just a different animal as far as accuracy/touch, etc IMO. 

 

[Terpman22]

Its hard to find a comparison for Jalen Hurts b/c up until recently it was literally physically impossible for the smaller/running QB's to stay healthy due to the rules structure. Now you can't use full body weight, etc, if you "flick" the helmet its a 15 yard penalty. Also why "short" QB's weren't used as much. Not b/c they can't see, just b/c you can beat up a smaller guy easier back in the 90s and before. 

 

[Amused to Death]

I don't watch a lot of Cardinals games but I feel like Murray is a lot more accurate.  I'm trying to think of a QB that had sustained success without ever having great accuracy passing.

Yeah I don't about Murray's accuracy, but watching him play (maybe against Dallas?) I thought he looked a lot like how Hurts plays.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Its hard to find a comparison for Jalen Hurts

I have no idea why it’s quoting like that lol

I think he’s in the middle of a Dak and Tebow and kind of a mix between the two. If you’re looking for a Philly comparison he’s more of a faster Rodney Pete skill wise than a McNabb. Peete also may have had a little stronger arm buts it’s negligible.  McNabb had top tier abilities with his arm and legs, especially early on. 

 

[jon007]

TB total points for and against. 511/353
Eagles total point for and against. 444/385

TB average points for and against 30/20
Eagles average points for and at 26/22

TB last eight games total points 232/141
Eagles last eight games total points 217/161

TB average points for and against 29/17
Eagles average points for and against 27/20

Even with our crap games against the Giants and Dallas we are not that far off from TB. The one thing stat that jumped off the page to me with TB is they actually lit it up against numerous teams dropping 30+.

Prediction 37 - 31 Eagles in OT

Vegas opened us as +7 underdog. I see us more like a +5 underdog with 3 points going to home advantage. This game could very well come down to a field goal as time expires.

 

[need2know]

Thinking back on our first game with tb, I remember thinking after the game that tb could have scored way more vs us.   We never pushed them with our offense because we didn't really start gelling on offense until after this game. we can push them now, but I don't know if we have the def to stop them enough.   they are missing all kinds of people but Brady can make the wr4 shine.

Hoping for the best and honestly just happy to be here

 

[babydemon90]

I don't watch a lot of Cardinals games but I feel like Murray is a lot more accurate.  I'm trying to think of a QB that had sustained success without ever having great accuracy passing.

Yea, Murray is very accurate - he almost hit 70% completion this year.

I think without question, Hurts will not have sustained success without improving his accuracy and decision making. But, he clearly improved from last year. So I'm hopeful he can. even if the accuracy doesn't improve a ton, if the decision making does he can be decent.

I kinda think his best comp (that was successful) is Steve McNair

 

[Terpman22]

Thinking back on our first game with tb, I remember thinking after the game that tb could have scored way more vs us.   We never pushed them with our offense because we didn't really start gelling on offense until after this game. we can push them now, but I don't know if we have the def to stop them enough.   they are missing all kinds of people but Brady can make the wr4 shine.

Hoping for the best and honestly just happy to be here

Yeah I'm here too. Have visions of Evans and especially Gronk just abusing us over and over. But man, if we have the one thing, THE one thing that Brady hates is a good, fast defensive line with guys flying around. If its close, guys like Cox, Hargrave, Milton Williams, Sweat and Barnett are going to have to be huge. If we get less than 3 sacks, we do not come close IMO.

Dream scenario is visions of some hits on him as he is throwing and Slay taking it to the house.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Thinking back on our first game with tb, I remember thinking after the game that tb could have scored way more vs us.   We never pushed them with our offense because we didn't really start gelling on offense until after this game. we can push them now, but I don't know if we have the def to stop them enough.   they are missing all kinds of people but Brady can make the wr4 shine.

Hoping for the best and honestly just happy to be here

Yep. They were in that stretch where the good teams hammered us. I think we had like 200 yards of offense against them too. I also think we’re playing a lot better now and they’re missing a lot more but I have the same worries with Brady. Gannon can not wait too long to adjust in this one or we’re down 17-21 at half. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Worth a read...

https://twitter.com/thesarahyork/status/1480371733823635456

OMG.

Jared Goff totally had "Enterprise branch manager" as his destiny until he got drafted into the NFL. 

 

[Amused to Death]

5 hours ago, babydemon90 said:
Worth a read...

https://twitter.com/thesarahyork/status/1480371733823635456


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OMG.


Jared Goff totally had "Enterprise branch manager" as his destiny until he got drafted into the NFL. 

I thought Ben Roethlisberger's was pretty accurate as well.