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2022-23 NBA Thread: “you’ll never let me down like the Heat did”, Miami fan says to giant pile of cocaine (3 Viewers)
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Nice acting by Jokic
PIK95
Footballguy
If one team just totally lays the wood to another, obviously it is what it is. I'm gonna just stop even trying to discuss this here. I'm seriously thinking you guys are just trolling me with all this. God I hope so.Rigged from the standpoint that refs are encouraged to extend series to maximize games for TV. They are probably rewarded with the good assignments and the finals. Those same refs also realize that if Lebron or top guys advance, it probably also makes the league happy, and they will get rewarded for being a company guy. I guess that line of thinking makes me crazy.Just to be clear, you feel the NBA games are rigged?They are very good at it. I called the Kings fix game in real time and was furious. So many other weird ones over the years, but certain refs are very good at getting certain teams over the hump. Recently they have done a better job taking guys out with a few fouls earlier in the games, even the first half. Then it's not as noticeable down the stretch. The no call in game two on the Bam goaltending is a decent example of one of those moments. The Lakers (whole season) free throw attempts was another example of feeding the TV gods. Everyone is making money so who really cares if they have to play an extra game or two.the numbers, over the decades, don't support it.It's not the amount of fouls it's how they use them to shape the outcomes of games. Usually to extend series to maximize TV exposure. It's been going on since the 80's, but some years are just much worse. As our games involving certain players....Jordan, Kobe and Shaq, Lebron, and early Harden would get silly calls. It just cheapens the game imo.
NBA League Averages - Per Game | Basketball-Reference.com
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these refs are out of control with the whistles. they're up 0.4 fouls per game since last year and up 0.7 per game since the season before.
over the past 8 years the NBA averages 20.0875 fouls per game. but 20 flat this year. a clear sign that the refs have been..... leaning on teams...... to tilt the scales.... i guess?
if they manipulate by calling certain things and not others to impact the flow of a game then they are remarkably consistent across generations of referees, NBA executives, media members, etc. who would have cried foul about it by now.
There was the NBA Ref-Donaghy that was rigging games so there certainly is precedence for it.
I know a lot of Miami fans were irate in Game 3 but I never thought the Refs gifted the game to Denver, sure I would have liked Gabe Vincent to avoid a couple calls in the 1st Half, wasn't anything in the 2nd Half that prevented the Heat from winning...only the Denver Nuggets themselves IMO
Cheers Pik
Ironically I haven't seen much tonight that seems weird which is nice.
That is why they let LeBron get swept in the conference finals and Giannis go out in 5 games in round 1 and no game 7 between LeBron and Steph that might have set records for NBA ratings , and why the Knicks and Bulls have sucked for decades.
Come-on there are better ways to get our attention.
identikit
Footballguy
If one team just totally lays the wood to another, obviously it is what it is. I'm gonna just stop even trying to discuss this here. I'm seriously thinking you guys are just trolling me with all this. God I hope so.Rigged from the standpoint that refs are encouraged to extend series to maximize games for TV. They are probably rewarded with the good assignments and the finals. Those same refs also realize that if Lebron or top guys advance, it probably also makes the league happy, and they will get rewarded for being a company guy. I guess that line of thinking makes me crazy.Just to be clear, you feel the NBA games are rigged?They are very good at it. I called the Kings fix game in real time and was furious. So many other weird ones over the years, but certain refs are very good at getting certain teams over the hump. Recently they have done a better job taking guys out with a few fouls earlier in the games, even the first half. Then it's not as noticeable down the stretch. The no call in game two on the Bam goaltending is a decent example of one of those moments. The Lakers (whole season) free throw attempts was another example of feeding the TV gods. Everyone is making money so who really cares if they have to play an extra game or two.the numbers, over the decades, don't support it.It's not the amount of fouls it's how they use them to shape the outcomes of games. Usually to extend series to maximize TV exposure. It's been going on since the 80's, but some years are just much worse. As our games involving certain players....Jordan, Kobe and Shaq, Lebron, and early Harden would get silly calls. It just cheapens the game imo.NBA League Averages - Per Game | Basketball-Reference.com
NBA League Averages - Per Game
these refs are out of control with the whistles. they're up 0.4 fouls per game since last year and up 0.7 per game since the season before.
over the past 8 years the NBA averages 20.0875 fouls per game. but 20 flat this year. a clear sign that the refs have been..... leaning on teams...... to tilt the scales.... i guess?
if they manipulate by calling certain things and not others to impact the flow of a game then they are remarkably consistent across generations of referees, NBA executives, media members, etc. who would have cried foul about it by now.
There was the NBA Ref-Donaghy that was rigging games so there certainly is precedence for it.
I know a lot of Miami fans were irate in Game 3 but I never thought the Refs gifted the game to Denver, sure I would have liked Gabe Vincent to avoid a couple calls in the 1st Half, wasn't anything in the 2nd Half that prevented the Heat from winning...only the Denver Nuggets themselves IMO
Cheers Pik
Ironically I haven't seen much tonight that seems weird which is nice.
That is why they let LeBron get swept in the conference finals and Giannis go out in 5 games in round 1 and no game 7 between LeBron and Steph that might have set records for NBA ratings , and why the Knicks and Bulls have sucked for decades.
Come-on there are better ways to get our attention.
@ trolling
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
ESPN already takes away some area of the screen but to have to watch a severe weather storm warning impacting NO ONE and a ticker across the top of the TV the entire time
ABC 25 WPB, get a clue
I wonder if YouTube would be better to watch
Live Radar Yeehaw Junction taking up the entire Right side of the screen my house, I **** you not
ABC 25 WPB, get a clue
I wonder if YouTube would be better to watch
Live Radar Yeehaw Junction taking up the entire Right side of the screen my house, I **** you not
msudaisy26
Footballguy
The reverse jinx is real.
PIK95
Footballguy
It was a long time ago, and I don't remember all the deets, but when that all went down, it was said there were other refs involved that year. TD's atty said someone (Stern?) alerted the group of refs that they were all being looked at by the feds, and then they made TD the fall guy. That would have been the leagues worst nightmare if that all got out with more than one ref. I remember hearing somewhere the feds were not pleased, but what could they do. Rome covered it all pretty deep back then. I did feel bad for the Kings.Lakers-Kings in 2002 was rigged. I’m not saying there is a grand conspiracy stretching across decades, but any non-Laker fan who watched that series knows what happened.Rigged from the standpoint that refs are encouraged to extend series to maximize games for TV. They are probably rewarded with the good assignments and the finals. Those same refs also realize that if Lebron or top guys advance, it probably also makes the league happy, and they will get rewarded for being a company guy. I guess that line of thinking makes me crazy.Just to be clear, you feel the NBA games are rigged?They are very good at it. I called the Kings fix game in real time and was furious. So many other weird ones over the years, but certain refs are very good at getting certain teams over the hump. Recently they have done a better job taking guys out with a few fouls earlier in the games, even the first half. Then it's not as noticeable down the stretch. The no call in game two on the Bam goaltending is a decent example of one of those moments. The Lakers (whole season) free throw attempts was another example of feeding the TV gods. Everyone is making money so who really cares if they have to play an extra game or two.the numbers, over the decades, don't support it.It's not the amount of fouls it's how they use them to shape the outcomes of games. Usually to extend series to maximize TV exposure. It's been going on since the 80's, but some years are just much worse. As our games involving certain players....Jordan, Kobe and Shaq, Lebron, and early Harden would get silly calls. It just cheapens the game imo.NBA League Averages - Per Game | Basketball-Reference.com
NBA League Averages - Per Game
these refs are out of control with the whistles. they're up 0.4 fouls per game since last year and up 0.7 per game since the season before.
over the past 8 years the NBA averages 20.0875 fouls per game. but 20 flat this year. a clear sign that the refs have been..... leaning on teams...... to tilt the scales.... i guess?
if they manipulate by calling certain things and not others to impact the flow of a game then they are remarkably consistent across generations of referees, NBA executives, media members, etc. who would have cried foul about it by now.
There was the NBA Ref-Donaghy that was rigging games so there certainly is precedence for it.
I know a lot of Miami fans were irate in Game 3 but I never thought the Refs gifted the game to Denver, sure I would have liked Gabe Vincent to avoid a couple calls in the 1st Half, wasn't anything in the 2nd Half that prevented the Heat from winning...only the Denver Nuggets themselves IMO
Cheers Pik
Ironically I haven't seen much tonight that seems weird which is nice.
That is why they let LeBron get swept in the conference finals and Giannis go out in 5 games in round 1 and no game 7 between LeBron and Steph that might have set records for NBA ratings , and why the Knicks and Bulls have sucked for decades.
Come-on there are better ways to get our attention.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The crazy dress lady front row is an opera singer from Russia I believe
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Jamal has 6.
You know what is coming…..
You know what is coming…..
Jayrod
Footballguy
He is rapidly climbing the ladder of my least favorite NBA players.
He'll never catch Draymond, but #2 is within reach.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Biggest conspiracy ever. The NBA and the refs, or JFK assassination, or Area 51?
It has to be the NBA with all the layers over this many decades. Those other two look like they were made up by a couple of kindergartners that played with finger paints during indoor recess when the weather was bad.
It has to be the NBA with all the layers over this many decades. Those other two look like they were made up by a couple of kindergartners that played with finger paints during indoor recess when the weather was bad.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Until Draymond goes the to the Celtics.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Lowry's like a Rick Mahorn Mini-Me
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I was never a Jordan fan (Piston fan), but that is the first time I have seen that be like Mike commerical in a long time. I really liked that commercial back then and it is still one of my favorites now.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I would probably become a free agent fan.
identikit
Footballguy
He's an NBA player, so
He plays like a 45 year old dude in a pickup game. He’s got some crafty moves and can shoot but seems very focused on injury prevention.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miami has Denver right where they want them, up 10!
Double Digit deficits are a Heat Culture staple
Double Digit deficits are a Heat Culture staple
Jayrod
Footballguy
He has had more back surgeries than any 45 yr old I know.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This would be a 20 point game is the refs didn't bank those 3's in.
Yeah, there’s definitely a reason why.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
They held them to 20 in the 1st, the Heat can't make shots and desperately need one of those Duncan 10 in 2 minute flurries right about now
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Murray is forcing a lot of bad shots.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Nuggets just d*cking around way too much
identikit
Footballguy
They need stops first
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Jokic appears to allow the Heat to score if they get to the rim, I don't know how many fouls he has right now but he plays like he is sitting on 4 or 5 of them.
Jayrod
Footballguy
That's what Boston did.
Denver not scoring on fast breaks and then Jokic throwing the ball away and just letting DR go in for an uncontested layup got Malone pissed off.
Jayrod
Footballguy
He does that a lot.
He used to get in to foul trouble. They drilled in to him that you can get points back but not fouls so he doesn't take bad fouls anymore.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Murray needs to lock in. He's been asleep all night
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Denver has played solid defense most of the night, there's a reason the Heat keep missing shots, they always seem to have a Nugget in their face tonight.
Hats off to Malone for having his team ready to go in Miami, they've been in control in South Beach the entire way
This game is certainly not over but the Heat are going to have to reach deep to pull this one out.
Jayrod
Footballguy
C'mon MPJ! 1 more point!
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Airing my dirty laundry……
Stoneworker
Footballguy
AG in da house!
PIK95
Footballguy
Always. He said it's to keep himself out of foul trouble. Brilliant really.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Denver is pulling away and the Heat cannot stop it
Body language not good
Heat passing around the 3 pt arc looks more like a hot potato and nobody feels confident enough to take the shot
Body language not good
Heat passing around the 3 pt arc looks more like a hot potato and nobody feels confident enough to take the shot
Mister CIA
Footballguy
The Heat don't stand a chance.
... Just trying to help out with the reverse jinx.
EDIT: maybe just a normal jinx.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Huge flop by Bam
Stoneworker
Footballguy
People questioning the "league whistle?"
Mister CIA
Footballguy
That felt contrived.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I don’t think the refs are in some big conspiracy- I think they just suck ***. My god.
heckmanm
Footballguy
I drive through Yeehaw Junction a couple times a year. True story.
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