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2022 FBG, 172 to 1 Beatles Countdown 1-25 lists... And 173 to 1 Countdown from 1-64 lists! (1 Viewer)

Chalk Rankings Top 10. #143 = 30 pts. Sponsored by: Simey Brand Dad Jeans

1 --Krista (Mom)---107.5

2 --anarchy99---81

3 --Krista (Mom/Hub)---60.5

4 --Krista (Rob)---37

5 --Krista (Worth)---33

6 --Krista (TJ/Holly)---28

7 --Krista (Craig)---27.5

8 --Shaft41---27.5

9 --murph---26

10 --Krista (Sharon)---24.5

11 --Dennis Castro---24.5

 
Tomorrow we will have a song that received four votes (our first) that didn't get a vote in 2019?

Anyone want to take a guess?

 
Getz, please remember that you can't include my friend Rob in the chalk rankings since he only submitted 20 songs, no matter how many times I asked for five more.  :lol:  

 
Why Don’t We Do It In The Road
2022 Ranking: 143
2022 Lists: 1
2022 Points: 14
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Rob) (12)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz:  Why Don't We Do Without This. 


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  192

2019 write-up:

Why Don't We Do It in the Road?  (White Album, 1968)

As I look back at it, I probably should have kept this in a lower position, since it's the only song left that kind of irritates me.  What's done is done!

Paul knocked this out without input from John or George, which apparently hurt John's feelings, though John later professed (perhaps sarcastically) to loving this song.  I appreciate Paul's description of the inspiration for the song, which was based on an experience in India:  "I was up on the flat roof meditating and I'd seen a troupe of monkeys walking along in the jungle and a male just hopped on to the back of this female and gave her one, as they say in the vernacular. Within two or three seconds he hopped off again, and looked around as if to say, 'It wasn't me,' and she looked around as if there had been some mild disturbance but thought, Huh, I must have imagined it, and she wandered off. And I thought, bloody hell, that puts it all into a cocked hat, that's how simple the act of procreation is, this bloody monkey just hopping on and hopping off. There is an urge, they do it, and it's done with. And it's that simple. We have horrendous problems with it, and yet animals don't. So that was basically it. Why Don't We Do It In The Road? could have applied to either ####### or ####ting, to put it roughly. Why don't we do either of them in the road? Well, the answer is we're civilised and we don't. But the song was just to pose that question. Why Don't We Do It In The Road? was a primitive statement to do with sex or to do with freedom really. I like it, it'd just so outrageous that I like it."

I appreciate the sentiment here (how you doin'?), but what makes the song irritating to me is Paul's vocal.  What is he trying to do?  This is one of those times when I feel like Paul's ability to perform in different genres almost slips into unintended parody, unlike John's "Yer Blues," which will be ranked much higher.  

But as to Paul's vocal, let's have Mr. krista take over:  "Such a throwaway track.  One good line, but the song doesn’t really go anywhere. Pretty half-assed.  Can you imagine if George had had something to do with it, like a killer guitar part?  George could have really helped that song.  So dumb, so half-assed.  Trying to sound like BB King.  Shut your British hole.  You're doing it in the bed, the curtains closed.  It's a well appointed room, or whatever the opposite of a road is.  [20-minute diatribe regarding English people trying to co-opt the blues, complete with comparison to if we tried to make a Native American song by doing the woo-woo-woo with our hands hitting our mouths and saying "how?".] 

Suggested cover:  Lowell Fulsom Holy hell, this is how blues should sound.  And listen to those angry guitars.  

2022 Supplement:  In a better world, this would be been #202 on my 2019 list, and would be #204 of 206 now.  Who voted for this?  Show yourselves!  I despise this song.  Next.

Guido Merkins

In Rishikesh Paul was sitting on top of a roof looking out and he just saw this male monkey jump on this female monkey in the middle of the road and…..did his thing.  Paul laughed and started writing a song called Why Don’t We Do It In the Road?  

This song was on the White Album and it features only Paul and Ringo.  John later claimed to be hurt when Paul would go off on his own and do something without involving them.  Paul countered that Julia and Revolution #9 didn’t involve him.  Remember this is the White Album and as George said “the rot had set in.”  John did like the song giving McCartney rare praise.

Anyway it’s a pretty simple recording featuring acoustic guitar, lead guitar, bass and vocal by Paul and drumming and hand clapping by Ringo.  To me the best part of the song is Paul’s voice.  He really cuts loose and especially on the falsetto part near the end,  On Anthology 3, there is a demo of the song with Paul alternating between a pleading quiet vocal and a more strident vocal showing his versatility. 

Once again, this is another one on the White Album that just fits the ethos of the album well.  Not sure it would have worked on the more polished Sgt Pepper or Abbey Road.
The most amusing thing about this song to me is that Dudley Moore’s character in 10 cites it as the epitome of unsophisticated music. And punk existed by then.

I have seen this performed live by Ambrosia, of all bands, sung by keyboardist Christopher North, who otherwise doesn’t sing.

As for the song itself, it’s the very definition of filler, but unlike some of the other White Album songs that fit that description, I can’t imagine the album without it.

 
I Don’t Want to Spoil The Party
2022 Ranking: 144
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 13
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Worth) (15)  Krista (Mom) (24)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz comments:  Krista's Mom blazing through her list with her fifth song. 🔥.    We still have 45 voters without one song listed. I agree with @krista4 on the Rosanne Cash version.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  123


2019 write-up:

I Don't Want to Spoil the Party (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

Another country-tinged song, and originally written for country-music-fan Ringo to sing lead.  It's unclear why/when it changed to John, but it was a good move instead to have John's double-tracked vocals on the verses with Paul's harmonies on the bridge.  I don't even understand how Ringo could have sung this one, but I'm glad he was there to keep it all tight on the drums.  I'm a fan of George's twangy, Chet-Atkins-style guitar work on this one, even though he's a bit messy with it.  I like to compare and contrast this with some of John's other, more aggressive "you're leaving me" songs (such as "Run for Your Life"), and in this case I appreciate the vulnerability without threats of violence.

Mr. krista:  "They were just trying to write a county song. We're back to really morose.  They can’t really write country, so it sounds like he’s hiding a real misery in this pastiche.  But I think dude was sad."

Suggested cover:  The only cover of a Beatles song to reach #1 on the country charts, Rosanne Cash (don't tell anyone, but I like this version better than the original)

2022 Supplement:  Not much more to say here.  I still think this is a lovely but sweetly sad song, sung beautifully in both in the melody and the harmonies.  The middle eight is killer, especially Paul’s high harmonies and Ringo’s drumming.  Sounds like a song they would have written for Ringo, which they did, but works better with John in the lead.  You can really hear the beginnings of John’s singer-songwriter, Dylan-esque phase here, which culminated of course in “You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away.”

Guido Merkins

I Don’t Want to Spoil the Party fits the overall country and western vibe of Beatles For Sale quite well.  John claimed it was his song, a very personal song.  What exactly it is about, he never said, but I can only assume he showed up at a party and the girl he wanted to see didn’t show up.  Sort of a male It’s My Party, I guess.

Paul said he helped out a bit.  Mostly the lead is sung by John, with Paul coming in on the middle “though tonight she makes me sad…” and, as usual, lifts the whole thing.

The best part of the song are the harmonies and George’s country and western style guitar and Ringo, who was a huge country and western fan, with the drumming.
I think this is a really good song. It's trickier than it seems on the surface. But it feels like something's missing and I can't put my finger on what that is.

Agree with Krista on Rosanne's cover, but I'm an unashamed fanboy of hers and not very objective. She could sing the worst song ever written (any Billy Joel song will do) and make it sound great.

 
Why Don’t We Do It In The Road
2022 Ranking: 143
2022 Lists: 1
2022 Points: 14
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Rob) (12)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz:  Why Don't We Do Without This. 


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  192

2019 write-up:

Why Don't We Do It in the Road?  (White Album, 1968)

As I look back at it, I probably should have kept this in a lower position, since it's the only song left that kind of irritates me.  What's done is done!

Paul knocked this out without input from John or George, which apparently hurt John's feelings, though John later professed (perhaps sarcastically) to loving this song.  I appreciate Paul's description of the inspiration for the song, which was based on an experience in India:  "I was up on the flat roof meditating and I'd seen a troupe of monkeys walking along in the jungle and a male just hopped on to the back of this female and gave her one, as they say in the vernacular. Within two or three seconds he hopped off again, and looked around as if to say, 'It wasn't me,' and she looked around as if there had been some mild disturbance but thought, Huh, I must have imagined it, and she wandered off. And I thought, bloody hell, that puts it all into a cocked hat, that's how simple the act of procreation is, this bloody monkey just hopping on and hopping off. There is an urge, they do it, and it's done with. And it's that simple. We have horrendous problems with it, and yet animals don't. So that was basically it. Why Don't We Do It In The Road? could have applied to either ####### or ####ting, to put it roughly. Why don't we do either of them in the road? Well, the answer is we're civilised and we don't. But the song was just to pose that question. Why Don't We Do It In The Road? was a primitive statement to do with sex or to do with freedom really. I like it, it'd just so outrageous that I like it."

I appreciate the sentiment here (how you doin'?), but what makes the song irritating to me is Paul's vocal.  What is he trying to do?  This is one of those times when I feel like Paul's ability to perform in different genres almost slips into unintended parody, unlike John's "Yer Blues," which will be ranked much higher.  

But as to Paul's vocal, let's have Mr. krista take over:  "Such a throwaway track.  One good line, but the song doesn’t really go anywhere. Pretty half-assed.  Can you imagine if George had had something to do with it, like a killer guitar part?  George could have really helped that song.  So dumb, so half-assed.  Trying to sound like BB King.  Shut your British hole.  You're doing it in the bed, the curtains closed.  It's a well appointed room, or whatever the opposite of a road is.  [20-minute diatribe regarding English people trying to co-opt the blues, complete with comparison to if we tried to make a Native American song by doing the woo-woo-woo with our hands hitting our mouths and saying "how?".] 

Suggested cover:  Lowell Fulsom Holy hell, this is how blues should sound.  And listen to those angry guitars.  

2022 Supplement:  In a better world, this would be been #202 on my 2019 list, and would be #204 of 206 now.  Who voted for this?  Show yourselves!  I despise this song.  Next.

Guido Merkins

In Rishikesh Paul was sitting on top of a roof looking out and he just saw this male monkey jump on this female monkey in the middle of the road and…..did his thing.  Paul laughed and started writing a song called Why Don’t We Do It In the Road?  

This song was on the White Album and it features only Paul and Ringo.  John later claimed to be hurt when Paul would go off on his own and do something without involving them.  Paul countered that Julia and Revolution #9 didn’t involve him.  Remember this is the White Album and as George said “the rot had set in.”  John did like the song giving McCartney rare praise.

Anyway it’s a pretty simple recording featuring acoustic guitar, lead guitar, bass and vocal by Paul and drumming and hand clapping by Ringo.  To me the best part of the song is Paul’s voice.  He really cuts loose and especially on the falsetto part near the end,  On Anthology 3, there is a demo of the song with Paul alternating between a pleading quiet vocal and a more strident vocal showing his versatility. 

Once again, this is another one on the White Album that just fits the ethos of the album well.  Not sure it would have worked on the more polished Sgt Pepper or Abbey Road.
Could have been the b-side to Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey.

 
Boys
2022 Ranking: 142
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 14
Ranked Highest by: @Uruk-Hai (13) @ManOfSteelhead (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 127T/1/7


Getz comments:  We have a Ringo BingoTN with a Bullseye on Krista’s 2019 rank! Love the Green Day link below.

Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  142

2019 write-up:

Boys (Please Please Me, 1963)

Pure joy.  I'm not going to do a big write-up here.  Enjoy this live performance with me, and you'll see why I love this one.  Ringo's head shakes...the toss to George at ~1:00 and George's glee...and don't miss John's little kick at ~1:50 that drives the girls wild.

There's a snippet of an interview with Paul that I've heard on the Beatles channel a few times where he describes a conversation with one of the Rolling Stones - Mick or Keith, I can't remember - and whoever it was commented how lucky the Beatles had been to have four front men, whereas the Stones had only one.  That live clip above shows that, I think. Original Shirelles version

Mr. krista:  "I like it, and I like the Shirelles, too. And Ringo is a great singer for a song like that.  It’s a jam."

2022 Supplement:  Flat-out great rocker.  Though largely forgotten by anyone who doesn’t listen to a lot of the Beatles Channel, this song was a favorite to perform live dating back to the Pete Best days, when he took the lead vocal, and continues to be performed by Ringo in live shows to this day.  It was one of the many “filler” cover songs the Beatles put on Please Please Me and was recorded with eight other songs all on the same day!

Although it was originally by the girl group The Shirelles, the Beatles didn’t really care about the gender flip in the lyrics:  Paul has said, “If you think about it, here's us doing a song and it was really a girls' song... Or it was a gay song. But we never even listened. It's just a great song. I think that's one of the things about youth - you just don't give a ####. I love the innocence of those days."

At the 2015 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, Ringo teamed with Green Day (both he and the band having been inducted into this class) to perform this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mx48CPaQFo

Guido Merkins

The Beatles were big fans of the girl groups.  Their first couple of albums they covered songs by the Donays, the Marvalettes, the Cookies and…..Boys, by the Shirelles.  Boys had long been the Beatles drummer vocal song with Pete Best singing it during their Hamburg days, so when they were looking for a Ringo song for the Please Please Me album, it was natural to give him Boys, which he also sung with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes.

It is common that men singing songs done by women would change the words and vice versa, but the Beatles never thought about changing the song to “Girls.”  The only thing they did was change the first line to “My girl said when I kiss her lips…”  I guess back in those days, they didn’t think about stuff like that much.

The recording was pretty simple since it was part of their stage repertoire.  Apparently it was done in one take.  This may be my favorite song sung by Ringo.  I think it rocks and it suits his voice well.  I love the way he calls out George before the solo “all right George…”  The drumming is great, naturally and I love the background vocals.

 
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Boys
2022 Ranking: 142
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 14
Ranked Highest by: @Uruk-Hai (13) @ManOfSteelhead (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 127T/1/7


Getz comments:  We have a Ringo BingoTN with a Bullseye on Krista’s 2019 rank! Love the Green Day link below.

Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  142

2019 write-up:

Boys (Please Please Me, 1963)

Pure joy.  I'm not going to do a big write-up here.  Enjoy this live performance with me, and you'll see why I love this one.  Ringo's head shakes...the toss to George at ~1:00 and George's glee...and don't miss John's little kick at ~1:50 that drives the girls wild.

There's a snippet of an interview with Paul that I've heard on the Beatles channel a few times where he describes a conversation with one of the Rolling Stones - Mick or Keith, I can't remember - and whoever it was commented how lucky the Beatles had been to have four front men, whereas the Stones had only one.  That live clip above shows that, I think. Original Shirelles version

Mr. krista:  "I like it, and I like the Shirelles, too. And Ringo is a great singer for a song like that.  It’s a jam."

2022 Supplement:  Flat-out great rocker.  Though largely forgotten by anyone who doesn’t listen to a lot of the Beatles Channel, this song was a favorite to perform live dating back to the Pete Best days, when he took the lead vocal, and continues to be performed by Ringo in live shows to this day.  It was one of the many “filler” cover songs the Beatles put on Please Please Me and was recorded with eight other songs all on the same day!

Although it was originally by the girl group The Shirelles, the Beatles didn’t really care about the gender flip in the lyrics:  Paul has said, “If you think about it, here's us doing a song and it was really a girls' song... Or it was a gay song. But we never even listened. It's just a great song. I think that's one of the things about youth - you just don't give a ####. I love the innocence of those days."

At the 2015 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, Ringo teamed with Green Day (both he and the band having been inducted into this class) to perform this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mx48CPaQFo

Guido Merkins

The Beatles were big fans of the girl groups.  Their first couple of albums they covered songs by the Donays, the Marvalettes, the Cookies and…..Boys, by the Shirelles.  Boys had long been the Beatles drummer vocal song with Pete Best singing it during their Hamburg days, so when they were looking for a Ringo song for the Please Please Me album, it was natural to give him Boys, which he also sung with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes.

It is common that men singing songs done by women would change the words and vice versa, but the Beatles never thought about changing the song to “Girls.”  The only thing they did was change the first line to “My girl said when I kiss her lips…”  I guess back in those days, they didn’t think about stuff like that much.

The recording was pretty simple since it was part of their stage repertoire.  Apparently it was done in one take.  This may be my favorite song sung by Ringo.  I think it rocks and it suits his voice well.  I love the way he calls out George before the solo “all right George…”  The drumming is great, naturally and I love the background vocals.
I always found it odd that the Beatles had a song girls sang about boys in their repertoire, but they played the hell out of it. One of the highlights of Please Please Me for me.

 
I always found it odd that the Beatles had a song girls sang about boys in their repertoire, but they played the hell out of it. One of the highlights of Please Please Me for me.
Another song I'm liking a lot more this time.  Have already listened to four versions this morning.

 
Chalk Rankings Top 10. #142 = 31 pts. Sponsored by: Ringo BingoTM

1 --Krista (Mom)---107.5

2 --anarchy99---81

3 --Krista (Mom/Hub)---60.5

4 --ManOfSteelhead---50.5

5 --Krista (Rob)---37

6 --Krista (Worth)---33

7 --Uruk-Hai---31

8 --Krista (TJ/Holly)---28

9 --Krista (Craig)---27.5

10 --Shaft41---27.5

 
Boys
2022 Ranking: 142
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 14
Ranked Highest by: @Uruk-Hai (13) @ManOfSteelhead (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 127T/1/7


Getz comments:  We have a Ringo BingoTN with a Bullseye on Krista’s 2019 rank! Love the Green Day link below.

Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  142

2019 write-up:

Boys (Please Please Me, 1963)

Pure joy.  I'm not going to do a big write-up here.  Enjoy this live performance with me, and you'll see why I love this one.  Ringo's head shakes...the toss to George at ~1:00 and George's glee...and don't miss John's little kick at ~1:50 that drives the girls wild.

There's a snippet of an interview with Paul that I've heard on the Beatles channel a few times where he describes a conversation with one of the Rolling Stones - Mick or Keith, I can't remember - and whoever it was commented how lucky the Beatles had been to have four front men, whereas the Stones had only one.  That live clip above shows that, I think. Original Shirelles version

Mr. krista:  "I like it, and I like the Shirelles, too. And Ringo is a great singer for a song like that.  It’s a jam."

2022 Supplement:  Flat-out great rocker.  Though largely forgotten by anyone who doesn’t listen to a lot of the Beatles Channel, this song was a favorite to perform live dating back to the Pete Best days, when he took the lead vocal, and continues to be performed by Ringo in live shows to this day.  It was one of the many “filler” cover songs the Beatles put on Please Please Me and was recorded with eight other songs all on the same day!

Although it was originally by the girl group The Shirelles, the Beatles didn’t really care about the gender flip in the lyrics:  Paul has said, “If you think about it, here's us doing a song and it was really a girls' song... Or it was a gay song. But we never even listened. It's just a great song. I think that's one of the things about youth - you just don't give a ####. I love the innocence of those days."

At the 2015 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, Ringo teamed with Green Day (both he and the band having been inducted into this class) to perform this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mx48CPaQFo

Guido Merkins

The Beatles were big fans of the girl groups.  Their first couple of albums they covered songs by the Donays, the Marvalettes, the Cookies and…..Boys, by the Shirelles.  Boys had long been the Beatles drummer vocal song with Pete Best singing it during their Hamburg days, so when they were looking for a Ringo song for the Please Please Me album, it was natural to give him Boys, which he also sung with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes.

It is common that men singing songs done by women would change the words and vice versa, but the Beatles never thought about changing the song to “Girls.”  The only thing they did was change the first line to “My girl said when I kiss her lips…”  I guess back in those days, they didn’t think about stuff like that much.

The recording was pretty simple since it was part of their stage repertoire.  Apparently it was done in one take.  This may be my favorite song sung by Ringo.  I think it rocks and it suits his voice well.  I love the way he calls out George before the solo “all right George…”  The drumming is great, naturally and I love the background vocals.
I was sure this wouldn't do well in the composite - it's a cover, it's early Beatles, it doesn't quite know when/if to gender-flip.  But I didn't put it at #13 to be contrarian or because of some self-important "quirkiness" need in the hopes that no one else would choose it to feed my ego. I put it there because it rocks so ####### hard and has so much fun doing it. They shred this thing. The Beatles were great at a lot of things - but they were better at being a raving bar band than any of their other incarnations.

I'm happy that someone else chose it, too.

 
Julia
2022 Ranking: 141
2022 Lists: 4
2022 Points: 15
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Worth) (18) @Ted Lange as your Bartender(22), @neal cassady (24) Krista (TJ/Holly) (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz:  Our 15th song not rated in 2019. Our first with four voters in 2022. Would love to hear from Ted and Neal above as to why they ranked it this time, but not last time.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  137


2019 write-up:

Julia (White Album, 1968)

I've tried over and over to love this as much as other people do, but it still comes back to being middle-of-the-Beatles-pack for me.  Maybe it comes down to what I said in the intro, which is that I'm not sentimental.  At all.  So while this is a lovely song, aspects of which I think are great, it doesn't "move" me that much.  I don't particularly like John's vocal, which sounds too tinny.  What I love the most are the lyrics.  Just looking at the first bits:

Half of what I say is meaningless

But I say it just to reach you, Julia

Julia, Julia, ocean child, calls me

So I sing a song of love, Julia

Julia, seashell eyes, windy smile, calls me

So I sing a song of love, Julia

Her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering

In the sun

What's interesting to me in these lyrics is that he is speaking directly to his mom at the beginning.  He's not talking to us, describing his mother, but pleading directly to her in the opening lines (which were adapted from a Kahlil Gibran poem).  But in the midst of that, he sings "ocean child," which is the translation of...Yoko Ono.  He's interspersing Yoko in with his mother, and he also moves from talking directly to his mother to describing physical characteristics to us - presumably the beautiful poetry of "seashell eyes, windy smile" is meant to refer to Yoko, or is it mother, or is it both?  It all seems possibly Oedipal, or possibly a song of the sorrow of the childhood loss of his mother being overcome with the fullness of his current love for Yoko,  or possibly John telling his mother that he is ok now and can let go of the pain of her loss, or maybe none of this.  Whatever it is, it's clearly something therapeutic for him and lovely for us.

Mr. krista:  "His voice is sincere…it’s not good.  He’s singing a little out of his range.  It’s kind of a fantasy, I think.  They were poor people, and I don’t think that [beach scene] ever happened for him.  You can hear in his voice that he’s struggling to come to grips.  So with hindsight, and a couple of Beatles biographies, I like it a lot more.  It’s an earnest effort, and he committed to it, so…gahbless."

Suggested cover:  Sean Lennon, because.  

2022 Supplement:  In 1958, John’s mother Julia was hit and killed by a car driven by an off-duty policeman.  She had been on her way home from visiting her sister, John’s Aunt Mimi, with whom he lived.  John’s loss was a thread through much of his music, including this song and the harrowing “Mother” on his first Plastic Ono Band record:  "I lost her twice.  When I was five and I moved in with my auntie, and then when she physically died. That made me more bitter; the chip on my shoulder I had as a youth got really big then. I was just really re-establishing the relationship with her and she was killed."

This beautiful tribute to his mum is a song I’ve grown to appreciate much more over the last three years as I dug more into John’s solo works and his entire life’s progression.  This was also one of three tracks (along with “Strawberry Fields Forever” and “Across The Universe”) that Paul identified a year or so ago as his favorites from Beatles-era John.  He singled out this one for its poignancy and the fact that he knew how deeply John had loved his mother; John and Paul had bonded over the tragic losses of both their mothers at early ages.

Fun fact:  This is the only Beatles song on which John is the sole performer.

Guido Merkins

John’s childhood is well known.  He was basically abandoned by his mother and father and grew up with his Aunt Mimi.  Years later, his mother, Julia, came back into his life, but was more like a big sister to John than a mother.  It was Julia that encouraged John’s interest in music, even teaching him the banjo.  Julia was killed in an accident when she was run over by an off duty police officer.  For years, John told stories about how the officer was drunk, but that wasn’t the case.  He was acquitted.  It was an accident, but it traumatized John and drew him closer to Paul, since Paul had also lost his mother at a young age.  

John wrote two songs directly about Julia.  One was Mother from Plastic Ono Band and the other was Julia on the White Album.  This song is an acoustic solo performance from John in the fingerpicking style he learned in India from Donovan.

The lyrics are really good with things like “ocean child calls me” (Yoko apparently means ocean child).  And “half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it just to reach you Julia.”  And “her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering in the sun.”  As usual, John’s voice reaches down into your soul and finds that sad place and kind of sits there, somehow making you feel better.

 
Have a flight late afternoon to catch.  So will go a little faster today.  Monday and Tuesday will likely not see the usual five songs per day.

 
Chalk Rankings Top 10. #141 = 32 pts. for each. Sponsored by: Ringo BingoTM

1 --Krista (Mom)---107.5

2 --anarchy99---81

3 --Krista (Worth)---65

4 --Krista (Mom/Hub)---60.5

5 --Krista (TJ/Holly)---60

6 --ManOfSteelhead---50.5

7 --Krista (Rob)---37

8 --Neal Cassady---32

9 --Ted Lange as your Bartender---32

10 --Uruk-Hai---31

 
Julia
2022 Ranking: 141
2022 Lists: 4
2022 Points: 15
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Worth) (18) @Ted Lange as your Bartender(22), @neal cassady (24) Krista (TJ/Holly) (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz:  Our 15th song not rated in 2019. Our first with four voters in 2022. Would love to hear from Ted and Neal above as to why they ranked it this time, but not last time.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  137


2019 write-up:

Julia (White Album, 1968)

I've tried over and over to love this as much as other people do, but it still comes back to being middle-of-the-Beatles-pack for me.  Maybe it comes down to what I said in the intro, which is that I'm not sentimental.  At all.  So while this is a lovely song, aspects of which I think are great, it doesn't "move" me that much.  I don't particularly like John's vocal, which sounds too tinny.  What I love the most are the lyrics.  Just looking at the first bits:

Half of what I say is meaningless

But I say it just to reach you, Julia

Julia, Julia, ocean child, calls me

So I sing a song of love, Julia

Julia, seashell eyes, windy smile, calls me

So I sing a song of love, Julia

Her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering

In the sun

What's interesting to me in these lyrics is that he is speaking directly to his mom at the beginning.  He's not talking to us, describing his mother, but pleading directly to her in the opening lines (which were adapted from a Kahlil Gibran poem).  But in the midst of that, he sings "ocean child," which is the translation of...Yoko Ono.  He's interspersing Yoko in with his mother, and he also moves from talking directly to his mother to describing physical characteristics to us - presumably the beautiful poetry of "seashell eyes, windy smile" is meant to refer to Yoko, or is it mother, or is it both?  It all seems possibly Oedipal, or possibly a song of the sorrow of the childhood loss of his mother being overcome with the fullness of his current love for Yoko,  or possibly John telling his mother that he is ok now and can let go of the pain of her loss, or maybe none of this.  Whatever it is, it's clearly something therapeutic for him and lovely for us.

Mr. krista:  "His voice is sincere…it’s not good.  He’s singing a little out of his range.  It’s kind of a fantasy, I think.  They were poor people, and I don’t think that [beach scene] ever happened for him.  You can hear in his voice that he’s struggling to come to grips.  So with hindsight, and a couple of Beatles biographies, I like it a lot more.  It’s an earnest effort, and he committed to it, so…gahbless."

Suggested cover:  Sean Lennon, because.  

2022 Supplement:  In 1958, John’s mother Julia was hit and killed by a car driven by an off-duty policeman.  She had been on her way home from visiting her sister, John’s Aunt Mimi, with whom he lived.  John’s loss was a thread through much of his music, including this song and the harrowing “Mother” on his first Plastic Ono Band record:  "I lost her twice.  When I was five and I moved in with my auntie, and then when she physically died. That made me more bitter; the chip on my shoulder I had as a youth got really big then. I was just really re-establishing the relationship with her and she was killed."

This beautiful tribute to his mum is a song I’ve grown to appreciate much more over the last three years as I dug more into John’s solo works and his entire life’s progression.  This was also one of three tracks (along with “Strawberry Fields Forever” and “Across The Universe”) that Paul identified a year or so ago as his favorites from Beatles-era John.  He singled out this one for its poignancy and the fact that he knew how deeply John had loved his mother; John and Paul had bonded over the tragic losses of both their mothers at early ages.

Fun fact:  This is the only Beatles song on which John is the sole performer.

Guido Merkins

John’s childhood is well known.  He was basically abandoned by his mother and father and grew up with his Aunt Mimi.  Years later, his mother, Julia, came back into his life, but was more like a big sister to John than a mother.  It was Julia that encouraged John’s interest in music, even teaching him the banjo.  Julia was killed in an accident when she was run over by an off duty police officer.  For years, John told stories about how the officer was drunk, but that wasn’t the case.  He was acquitted.  It was an accident, but it traumatized John and drew him closer to Paul, since Paul had also lost his mother at a young age.  

John wrote two songs directly about Julia.  One was Mother from Plastic Ono Band and the other was Julia on the White Album.  This song is an acoustic solo performance from John in the fingerpicking style he learned in India from Donovan.

The lyrics are really good with things like “ocean child calls me” (Yoko apparently means ocean child).  And “half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it just to reach you Julia.”  And “her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering in the sun.”  As usual, John’s voice reaches down into your soul and finds that sad place and kind of sits there, somehow making you feel better.
Looks like I’m finally on the board.  

In my last top 25, I didn’t have any white album entrants on my list.  I’ve always been more of a “early-to-middle period-Beatles” enthusiast because that’s what my parents played more of when I was growing up, but @krista4’s original thread inspired me to give a fresh listen to their later period work, so I was compelled to re-rate and include some of these songs on my updated list.  

Julia I find to be hauntingly beautiful in its simplicity, and it’s a rare look into John’s raw vulnerability, which was always there, but usually hidden behind a facade of silly faces, sarcasm or cynical comments, particularly early on.  But this song was as real as it gets from him.

 
Julia
2022 Ranking: 141
2022 Lists: 4
2022 Points: 15
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Worth) (18) @Ted Lange as your Bartender(22), @neal cassady (24) Krista (TJ/Holly) (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz:  Our 15th song not rated in 2019. Our first with four voters in 2022. Would love to hear from Ted and Neal above as to why they ranked it this time, but not last time.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  137


2019 write-up:

Julia (White Album, 1968)

I've tried over and over to love this as much as other people do, but it still comes back to being middle-of-the-Beatles-pack for me.  Maybe it comes down to what I said in the intro, which is that I'm not sentimental.  At all.  So while this is a lovely song, aspects of which I think are great, it doesn't "move" me that much.  I don't particularly like John's vocal, which sounds too tinny.  What I love the most are the lyrics.  Just looking at the first bits:

Half of what I say is meaningless

But I say it just to reach you, Julia

Julia, Julia, ocean child, calls me

So I sing a song of love, Julia

Julia, seashell eyes, windy smile, calls me

So I sing a song of love, Julia

Her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering

In the sun

What's interesting to me in these lyrics is that he is speaking directly to his mom at the beginning.  He's not talking to us, describing his mother, but pleading directly to her in the opening lines (which were adapted from a Kahlil Gibran poem).  But in the midst of that, he sings "ocean child," which is the translation of...Yoko Ono.  He's interspersing Yoko in with his mother, and he also moves from talking directly to his mother to describing physical characteristics to us - presumably the beautiful poetry of "seashell eyes, windy smile" is meant to refer to Yoko, or is it mother, or is it both?  It all seems possibly Oedipal, or possibly a song of the sorrow of the childhood loss of his mother being overcome with the fullness of his current love for Yoko,  or possibly John telling his mother that he is ok now and can let go of the pain of her loss, or maybe none of this.  Whatever it is, it's clearly something therapeutic for him and lovely for us.

Mr. krista:  "His voice is sincere…it’s not good.  He’s singing a little out of his range.  It’s kind of a fantasy, I think.  They were poor people, and I don’t think that [beach scene] ever happened for him.  You can hear in his voice that he’s struggling to come to grips.  So with hindsight, and a couple of Beatles biographies, I like it a lot more.  It’s an earnest effort, and he committed to it, so…gahbless."

Suggested cover:  Sean Lennon, because.  

2022 Supplement:  In 1958, John’s mother Julia was hit and killed by a car driven by an off-duty policeman.  She had been on her way home from visiting her sister, John’s Aunt Mimi, with whom he lived.  John’s loss was a thread through much of his music, including this song and the harrowing “Mother” on his first Plastic Ono Band record:  "I lost her twice.  When I was five and I moved in with my auntie, and then when she physically died. That made me more bitter; the chip on my shoulder I had as a youth got really big then. I was just really re-establishing the relationship with her and she was killed."

This beautiful tribute to his mum is a song I’ve grown to appreciate much more over the last three years as I dug more into John’s solo works and his entire life’s progression.  This was also one of three tracks (along with “Strawberry Fields Forever” and “Across The Universe”) that Paul identified a year or so ago as his favorites from Beatles-era John.  He singled out this one for its poignancy and the fact that he knew how deeply John had loved his mother; John and Paul had bonded over the tragic losses of both their mothers at early ages.

Fun fact:  This is the only Beatles song on which John is the sole performer.

Guido Merkins

John’s childhood is well known.  He was basically abandoned by his mother and father and grew up with his Aunt Mimi.  Years later, his mother, Julia, came back into his life, but was more like a big sister to John than a mother.  It was Julia that encouraged John’s interest in music, even teaching him the banjo.  Julia was killed in an accident when she was run over by an off duty police officer.  For years, John told stories about how the officer was drunk, but that wasn’t the case.  He was acquitted.  It was an accident, but it traumatized John and drew him closer to Paul, since Paul had also lost his mother at a young age.  

John wrote two songs directly about Julia.  One was Mother from Plastic Ono Band and the other was Julia on the White Album.  This song is an acoustic solo performance from John in the fingerpicking style he learned in India from Donovan.

The lyrics are really good with things like “ocean child calls me” (Yoko apparently means ocean child).  And “half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it just to reach you Julia.”  And “her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering in the sun.”  As usual, John’s voice reaches down into your soul and finds that sad place and kind of sits there, somehow making you feel better.
Beautiful and haunting. One of the best examples of how John made compelling music from deeply personal material.

 
You Like Me Too Much
2022 Ranking: 140
2022 Lists: 1
2022 Points: 16
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Sharon) (10)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz: The first song listed to get a Top 10 vote.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  157

2019 write-up:

You Like Me Too Much (Help!, 1965)

A George song that sounds decidedly un-George to me, with the sparkling harmonies (provided not only by Paul but by a double-tracked George vocal), sunniness, and slight old-timey-ness I think it feels more like a Paul track.  I dig the tremolo on the opening piano part and John's work overall on the Pianet.  The piano parts were George Martin and Paul playing at different ends of the piano, giving it that old-timey swing feel.  Maybe it's just a fluffy bit of pop, but it makes me want to go do the Lindy.  [Note:  I do not know how to do the Lindy.]  Recommend this one for vacuuming while singing it to your pet.

Mr. krista:  "This song’s kind of ####ed up.  I would like to know…when someone says 'I really do' you immediately doubt them...I wonder if the Beatles knew so much they were being sardonic.  But maybe it was just lazy."

Suggested cover:  The Challengers   

2022 Supplement:  I’ve been staring at this screen, then finding something else to do instead, then staring, then finding something else, then staring…for over an hour.  I just don’t have much to say about this song.  For god’s sake, I went and cleaned the sink instead of writing about it.  I do think the interplay between George’s guitar and the two piano parts is very good, trading ascensions and descensions.  George Martin and Paul were clearly having a rollicking good time.  And it’s cool that there’s a third piano (or pianet) part played well by John.  Good but not great song to me.

Guido Merkins

By the time of the Help album, George had settled into his 2 compositions per album, which would continue, with George becoming increasingly displeased, for much of the remainder of the Beatles career.  So the 2nd song that George wrote for the Help album was You Like Me Too Much, which was considered for the film, but I Need You was chosen instead, so You Like Me Too Much was relegated to the second, non soundtrack side of the album.

You Like Me Too Much is a relatively straightforward recording.  There is a grand piano and electric piano played during the intro which is one of the more unique intros in the Beatles catalog.  The lyrics were written, presumably, with Pattie Boyd in mind.  I like the inclusion of the electric piano throughout the song.  I also like the way the piano and the guitar kind of “trade licks” on the solo.

 
This has nothing to do with the Beatles, but I have SXM's 60s channel on (they're doing a top 50 countdown of R&B artists from the 60s with guest host Gary US Bonds) and they just played Archie Bell & The Drells' "Tighten Up". Now, I've heard that song a million times and I have no idea how I missed this all of these years. During the spoken-word intro, when Archie says "Hi. We're Archie Bell and the Drells from Houston Texas", I always thought the second line went "And we dance just as good as we want". I just now realized, after 50+ years, that he was saying "walk" instead of "want". "Walk" makes more sense, but I still like "want" better.

:bag:
OMG that's fantastic!  😆  https://youtu.be/uN7vm-k-AaA

 
Baby’s In Black
2022 Ranking: 139
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 16
Ranked Highest by: @rockaction (14) Krista (TJ/Michael) (22)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 96/1/18

Getz: YT is live from Shea Stadium. Song has been ear worm for me that past few days.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  182

2019 write-up:

Baby's in Black (Beatles for Sale, 1964)

This song about a love triangle among three people, only two of them living, was a staple of the Beatles's live performances, all the way through the last concert (setting aside the rooftop thingie) at Candlestick Park in 1966.  It's one of the best examples of true co-writing of Paul and John, having been written by them together in one day in a room at John's house in Kenwood.  There's a ton I like about this song - the harmonies, the 3/4 waltz time, the darker mood, whatever the hell that is that George is doing on guitar - but we're in the realm now of good songs that I just don't enjoy as much as those above them.

Mr. krista:  "It’s hard to conceive of a more selfish song, or someone who is less considerate of a protagonist in mourning. But I really like it. What the #### man. I think they were trying to write a county song.  Of all the people in there, you’re the most prutnate.*   There’s the dead dude, the woman who loved the dead dude, and you have nothing to do with this.  But again the harmonies are killer, the refrains are great, the melody’s great, so everything is enjoyable.  But they’re so powerful at this time that you could put any horrible message in your song, but it’s great.  Oh, here, murder your kids, and we would have all just been singing along."

*Since there was drinking involved in some of our forced listening sessions, sometimes my notes are a little hard to interpret.  Like "covfefe," take it to mean whatever you wish.

Suggested cover:  Wish I could find a better-quality live version than this one, but I think Earle sounds good (and he's a favorite of mine); actual song starts around 0:57  Shawn Colvin and Steve Earle; also if anyone can find the Elvis Costello/T-Bone Burnett version that I know exists but cannot seem to locate again, you'd be my hero.

2022 Supplement:  I know some were outraged at the low ranking of this song in 2019, and they were probably right.  I don’t enjoy it any more now than I did then, but it really was misplaced at this low a spot.  Hell, waltz time alone should put it more in the 150 range. 

Paul said that they all loved this one as it showed their growth as songwriters, writing something darker and more adult rather than pure pop songs.  They were also, as often was the case in the early days, trying to imitate the Everly Brothers with their harmonies.  This song has always had the “feel” of a John song to me, maybe due to the lyrics, but Paul has identified it as one that was a true 50/50 collaboration:  “It was very much co-written and we both sang it. Sometimes the harmony that I was writing in sympathy to John's melody would take over and become a stronger melody. Suddenly a piebald rabbit came out of the hat! When people wrote out the music score they would ask, 'Which one is the melody?' because it was so co-written that you could actually take either. We rather liked this one. It was not so much a work job, there was a bit more cred about this one. It's got a good middle.”  Note:  I don’t know what a piebald rabbit is, but I’m going to take it in the food draft.

I’m not sure which live version Getz will be posting, but I love the little twirl Paul did when they performed this song; it’s at 1:19 in this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwuIHR_e4y

Guido Merkins

By late 1964 many things were coming together that were changing the Beatles songwriting.  Bob Dylan is one of them.  The exhaustion of being on the road was also a factor.  Both of these combined created an atmosphere of darker, more personal songwriting.  Perhaps the darkest of their songs, certainly up to that point is Baby’s In Black from the Beatles For Sale album.

The lyrics talk about a grieving girl who “thinks of him and so she dresses in black” and “though he’ll never come back, she’s dressed in black.”  Now, is she grieving becasue the relationship is over or because the guy died?  I don’t know.  If it’s the former, then it’s a sad song.  If it’s the latter, it’s an even sadder song, but with a little sadistic twist because the singer is in effect saying “get over it and be with me.”  

In any event, the darkness of the lyrics is contrasted by the song in waltz time, which makes it lighter than the actual story being presented.  The vocal and guitar also suggest a country/blues kind of thing.  So this song has a bunch of different elements.

The Beatles, themselves, must have thought a lot of this song because it was part of their setlist.  I love John and Paul singing lead together in harmony the entire time.  I also love George’s guitar solo.  Very good song on an underrated album.

 
Chalk Rankings Top 10. #139 = 34 pts. for each. Sponsored by: Ringo BingoTN

1 --Krista (Mom)---107.5

2 --anarchy99---81

3 --Krista (Worth)---65

4 --Krista (Mom/Hub)---60.5

5 --Krista (TJ/Holly)---60

6 --Krista (Sharon)---57.5

7 --ManOfSteelhead---50.5

8 --Krista (Rob)---37

9 --Krista (TJ/Michael)---34

10 --rockaction---34

 
Oh noes!  I forgot yesterday in Beatles history, so here's a two-fer.

On yesterday's date in 1963, Lee Curtis and the All-Stars opened for the Beatles' evening performance at the Cavern Club.  The group's drummer?  Pete Best.  Awkward.

On today's date in 1970, John's song "Instant Karma!  (We All Shine On)" was released in the US, eventually hitting #3 on the charts.  Here's what I had to say about this song:

For a person who complains a lot about Phil Spector, I sure do have a lot of his productions at the top of my favorites.  I guess that’s inevitable when he was so heavily involved in John’s and George’s early solo works.  I do hold a grudge against this song, though – his involvement in it directly led to his being brought in to the Let It Be sessions, where in my opinion he ruined a bunch of songs. 

Setting aside my unreasonable notion that a composition could be responsible for actual human actions, this gets my vaunted #2 spot on the John list because it’s freaking awesome.  OK, maybe I can break it down better than that.  First of all, it’s AN ALAN WHITE SHOWCASE!  Hmmm, doesn’t have the same ring.  But that drumming is madness and not something I’d have expected from White based on my other knowledge of him (I don’t do Yes, so I’m talking about other Beatles collaborations).  Truly phenomenal.  I wouldn’t want to rank a song so highly, though, if it were dependent upon the contributions of a non-Beatle, and this isn’t.  John’s vocal is Twist-And-Shouty goodness, absolutely shredding it.  And although I don’t believe in karma, I think the lyrics are the most interesting of his overtly political tomes, with their tongue-in-cheek “get yourself together” criticisms combined with the optimism of “we all shine on” or the exhortation that we aren’t here to live in pain and fear.  It’s a decidedly positive and communal view of where we can go, unlike the more individual directives of, for instance, “Give Peace A Chance.”  In that sense, it’s more reassuring that if we all work together as one, we could accomplish something, though this idea was presented here in a less polished fashion than “Imagine.”  The more optimistic lyrics are complemented by the upbeat vocal and accompaniment – unlike many John songs of this vintage, he sounds like he’s having fun.

The backstory of this song is crazy, with John having gone from concept to composition to recording to release in…get this…10 days.  It reached #3 on the US charts and was the first “solo” Beatle recording to sell a million copies.  It wasn’t exactly solo, of course, since George played guitar and electric piano and provided backing vocals.  George and…everyone else on the planet.  In typical Spector-y fashion, a billion and one musicians were brought in to work on the track, from mainstays Voormann, White, and Preston, to a chorus of uncredited backing vocals that included awful-person Allen Klein.  To that Spector added his usual echo and reverb effects and wanted to add strings, too, but John deemed the song complete without them, thank goodness.  I believe strings would have detracted from the raw, primal nature of the song that makes it one of my top 10.

John and Yoko did a lot of promotion for this song.  They cut off their long hair and presented it to a Black power activist as some sort of signal of a “new beginning” for 1970.  And they did a series of TV performances of the song, including this little number that features Yoko soundlessly knitting with a Kotex pad taped to her face as a blindfold.


If you do nothing else today, watch that video.

 
My mom was going to post today, but this site is acting up in terms of new accounts.  :cry:   "Well, I tried to sign on so I could post, but I keep getting wrong name or password.  If I try to reset password, I get no response.  If I try to create another account, it says I am not permitted to register on this site. "

Anyone have a good alias lying around?

 
On today's date in 1970, John's song "Instant Karma!  (We All Shine On)" was released in the US, eventually hitting #3 on the charts. 
This song always sticks in my mind because around then I was fortunate enough to acquire my first portable cassette recorder. It had a built in radio, and that made it the best thing ever.  My first mix tape off the radio led off with Instant Karma. I just wish I still had that tape so I could remember what else I recorded way back then. 🎵

 
I’ll have something to say about Yes provided a certain track from Beatles For Sale surfaces later. 

 
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I’ve always thought part of the melody/vibe of the Pink Floyd song A Pillow of Winds, which came out three years later, had more than a passing resemblance to Julia. Probably reaching, but there is always that Beatles/Floyd connection whereby Floyd was recording their debut album Piper at the Gates of Dawn right next door as the Beatles were recording Sgt. Pepper

 
I’ve always thought part of the melody/vibe of the Pink Floyd song A Pillow of Winds, which came out three years later, had more than a passing resemblance to Julia. Probably reaching, but there is always that Beatles/Floyd connection whereby Floyd was recording their debut album Piper at the Gates of Dawn right next door as the Beatles were recording Sgt. Pepper


I'd have to listen to a Pink Floyd song to see if I agree, which I'm not willing to do, but buried in my Lovely Rita write-up was a bit about this:

Fun fact:  Among those witnessing the recording of this song were the members of Pink Floyd, who came to the session at the request of Norman Smith, a former Beatles engineer who was then producing Floyd’s debut album.   Nick Mason recalls that, “They were God-like figures to us.  They all seemed extremely nice, but they were in a strata so far beyond us that they were out of our league. … We sat humbly and humbled, at the back of the control room while they worked on the mix, and after a suitable (and embarrassing) period of time had elapsed, we were ushered out again.” 

There are also quotes from other members of the band out there, but I didn't like them as much so didn't post.  :lol:   So they definitely were around for part of the Sgt. Pepper's sessions and might have been influenced later in their songs, too.

 
"Baby's In Black" and waltz time. Simply wonderful, waltz time. Love it. 

One-two-three/one-two-three. 

A bunch of my favorite songs are in waltz time, so this one is no surprise given personal tastes.

Away from personal taste: In reference to Guido's write-up, I always assumed her lover had died, making the pining for her even more verboten and her that much more unattainable (it's a true cad that cuts in on a grieving girlfriend or widow). It's easy to love a girl who is spoken for, much harder to watch inconsolable grieving from a distance. 

But these lyrics give me pause about all of that: 

Oh how long will it take
'Til she sees the mistake she has made

Dear what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue
Tell me oh, what can I do 


Because if he's dead, see, then what's the mistake she has made. Grieving? 

Anyway, it'd be interesting to hear from the guys who wrote it, so I'll look it up. 

 
In that clip John and Paul are standing next to each other rather than on opposite sides of the stage where they usually stood. They did that deliberately to lessen Ringo's stress over doing his one vocal per concert (the song alternated between BoysI Wanna Be Your Man, and Act Naturally). 

John and Paul knew the audience would be focused on them rather than Ringo and he could start the song a bit more relaxed.

 
"Baby's In Black" and waltz time. Simply wonderful, waltz time. Love it. 

One-two-three/one-two-three. 

A bunch of my favorite songs are in waltz time, so this one is no surprise given personal tastes.

Away from personal taste: In reference to Guido's write-up, I always assumed her lover had died, making the pining for her even more verboten and her that much more unattainable (it's a true cad that cuts in on a grieving girlfriend or widow). It's easy to love a girl who is spoken for, much harder to watch inconsolable grieving from a distance. 

But these lyrics give me pause about all of that: 

Oh how long will it take
'Til she sees the mistake she has made

Dear what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue
Tell me oh, what can I do 


Because if he's dead, see, then what's the mistake she has made. Grieving? 

Anyway, it'd be interesting to hear from the guys who wrote it, so I'll look it up. 


Nah, I still think he's dead, too.  The mistake she is making is pining away for someone who can't be there, while she has another fabulous guy who loves/wants her.

In that clip John and Paul are standing next to each other rather than on opposite sides of the stage where they usually stood. They did that deliberately to lessen Ringo's stress over doing his one vocal per concert (the song alternated between BoysI Wanna Be Your Man, and Act Naturally). 

John and Paul knew the audience would be focused on them rather than Ringo and he could start the song a bit more relaxed.


Very cool tidbit that I didn't know!

 
You Like Me Too Much
2022 Ranking: 140
2022 Lists: 1
2022 Points: 16
Ranked Highest by: Krista (Sharon) (10)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz: The first song listed to get a Top 10 vote.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  157

2019 write-up:

You Like Me Too Much (Help!, 1965)

A George song that sounds decidedly un-George to me, with the sparkling harmonies (provided not only by Paul but by a double-tracked George vocal), sunniness, and slight old-timey-ness I think it feels more like a Paul track.  I dig the tremolo on the opening piano part and John's work overall on the Pianet.  The piano parts were George Martin and Paul playing at different ends of the piano, giving it that old-timey swing feel.  Maybe it's just a fluffy bit of pop, but it makes me want to go do the Lindy.  [Note:  I do not know how to do the Lindy.]  Recommend this one for vacuuming while singing it to your pet.

Mr. krista:  "This song’s kind of ####ed up.  I would like to know…when someone says 'I really do' you immediately doubt them...I wonder if the Beatles knew so much they were being sardonic.  But maybe it was just lazy."

Suggested cover:  The Challengers   

2022 Supplement:  I’ve been staring at this screen, then finding something else to do instead, then staring, then finding something else, then staring…for over an hour.  I just don’t have much to say about this song.  For god’s sake, I went and cleaned the sink instead of writing about it.  I do think the interplay between George’s guitar and the two piano parts is very good, trading ascensions and descensions.  George Martin and Paul were clearly having a rollicking good time.  And it’s cool that there’s a third piano (or pianet) part played well by John.  Good but not great song to me.

Guido Merkins

By the time of the Help album, George had settled into his 2 compositions per album, which would continue, with George becoming increasingly displeased, for much of the remainder of the Beatles career.  So the 2nd song that George wrote for the Help album was You Like Me Too Much, which was considered for the film, but I Need You was chosen instead, so You Like Me Too Much was relegated to the second, non soundtrack side of the album.

You Like Me Too Much is a relatively straightforward recording.  There is a grand piano and electric piano played during the intro which is one of the more unique intros in the Beatles catalog.  The lyrics were written, presumably, with Pattie Boyd in mind.  I like the inclusion of the electric piano throughout the song.  I also like the way the piano and the guitar kind of “trade licks” on the solo.
More bouncy mid-period stuff. Unlike Don't Bother Me or I Need You, this one feels more like George aping the John/Paul template than offering a distinctive sound and vision. All those pianos are fun, though. 

 

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