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2022 FBG, 172 to 1 Beatles Countdown 1-25 lists... And 173 to 1 Countdown from 1-64 lists! (3 Viewers)

**** ANNOUNCEMENT ****

In 2019, we did a "Guess The Top 10 Contest"

In 2022, we will be doing a "Guess The Top 15 Contest"
3 pts if you hit it on the nose for a "RingoBingoTM"
1 pt if your guess is one away from being right.

When we get to 60 songs left, I will go to random.org and post a randomized list of the final 60 songs.

Your 1-15 lists will be due before we post song #50.  Maybe I'll post songs #60 down to #51 over three days. I'll also announce a time I'm going to post #50 and make that the deadline for entries.

In 2019, we gave a prize away to charity. Will likely do that again.


 
WHY OH WHY did you guys vote for some many songs!?!?  :cry:

Only 27 re-write-ups to go, but I admit I'm struggling.  It gets harder as we go along, because the later ones are those that I had already written about a dozen paragraphs on.  I'm going to have to listen to them all backward or something to get new material.
I certainly hope -- and don't think -- people are counting on you to re-visit everything, Krista. No need to do every one or even the last 27. That's a lot of effort expended already. '

And we voted for so many songs because so many are so good. :)

 
I certainly hope -- and don't think -- people are counting on you to re-visit everything, Krista. No need to do every one or even the last 27. That's a lot of effort expended already. '

And we voted for so many songs because so many are so good. :)
I'm amazed at what she is done.  I wasn't expecting more than a handful of write ups this time.

But what she has added has been  :moneybag:

 
Think For Yourself
2022 Ranking: 106
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 32
Ranked Highest by: @Encyclopedia Brown (11) @FairWarning (12) Krista(Sharon) (23)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR

Getz comments:  Just four more NR songs after this one. Sharon takes the Chalk lead back.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  149


2019 write-up:

Think for Yourself (Rubber Soul, 1965)

I shouldn't love a song just based on maracas and fuzzbox bass, but those are what do it for me in this song.  I'd listen to that #### all day.  Add in some soaring harmonies contrasted with gloomy George lyrics and performance, with an edge of the cynicism he'll be more blatant about in "Taxman" and "Piggies," and you got yourself a krista-approved keeper.  
nailed it

isolated vocals

isolated fuzz bass, organ & percussion

isolated bass

125th overall and 11th of 14 for Rubber Soul but it really reflects how much I love this album. I have it #2 behind only Revolver and it's a near thing. The arrangements were given so much more attention and they really started to take over the studio. With The Beatles was completed over 7 sessions - spread over three months due to demands on their time in 1963 - and the other non-film album, Beatles for Sale, was completed in 9 days including mixing. The Rubber Soul sessions totaled 113 hours and mixing took another 17 hours. It was the first pop album to make an artistic statement. Brian Wilson thought every song was a gas and responded with Pet Sounds, Mick and the Stones wrote their first album of all original material, Lou Reed developed the Velvet Underground. It is difficult to overstate the impact RS had on other musicians.

 
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And we voted for so many songs because so many are so good. :)
Love this thought, and you’re right, of course.  It would be a drag to have the opposite and be discussing too few.  
 

I’m not complaining except in jest. Getz has jumbled these up, but with a bias to making sure we hit those that are coming up soon-ish.  So at the beginning I had a lot of songs I thought less highly of and struggled to say much about.  But now near the end I have a bunch that I think so highly of that I already went off for a couple of pages on them.  Having not really read my own posts, I didn’t realize this.

Almost 85% done; 27 more will be a breeze!

 
Birthday
2022 Ranking: 105
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 33
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Rob) (7) @Dwayne Hoover (12)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 129/2/6

Getz comments:  Shoutout to my FIL on his 92nd BDay.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  144

2019 write-up:

Birthday (White Album, 1968)

It's love it and hate it within the same song!  What I love about this:  it's a rave-up; the guitar riff; the drums; the music (but not the vocals) between 0:42-1:43; the "take a ch-ch-ch-chance" bit; the fact that it seems a rare bit of fun during their White Album sessions.  What I hate about this:  the lyrics oh god those ####### lyrics; Paul's cookie-monster vocal; the "biiiiirthday" backing vocals by Yoko Ono and Pattie Harrison; the fact that I can't hear it without thinking of that stupid Anthony Michael Hall character in that stupid Sixteen Candles movie.  I could overlook everything else if it weren't for the lyrics.  Paul claimed this was a collaboration with John; as was often the case, John claimed no part in it and called it "a piece of garbage."

Mr. krista:  "Badass riff.  Badass drumbeat.  It sounds like a Little Richard song, too.  It has that kind of effortlessness that comes from just being able to rock out a song.  I like the reverse polka, pa-oom instead of oom-pa, from Ringo.  Listen to this.  [Plays me Little Richard's "The Girl Can’t Help it."]  It’s the same song."

Suggested cover:  Paul Weller.  And in tribute to prior discussion in the thread:  The Iveys

2022 Supplement:  Yeah, I still don’t like this nearly as much as the rest of you do.  It’s sometimes a “change the channel” for me, even.

Paul says that this song was written specifically with live performance in mind, which might be the reason he continues to perform it at his shows to this day.  I remember waiting expectantly for his encore when I saw him in Vancouver in 2019; I’d read that the first number of the encore would be either “Yesterday,” “I Saw Her Standing There,” or this song.  We got this song.  :kicksrock:   Anyway, Paul has mentioned that this is a good concert song, because there’s always someone in the audience who has a birthday.  Hey Paul, that was not me. 

This song was improvised on the spot at Abbey Road, on a night when some additional visitors were there, including awful Pattie Boyd and even-more-awful Eric Clapton.  The band used the riff from Little Richard’s “Lucille” as a starting point, and developed it from there.  The also incorporated an idea from The Who’s “My Generation,” which was the “stutter” of “f-f-f-f-f-f.”  That became the basis of the “cha-cha-cha-cha-chance” in this song, which was then adapted again later in David Bowie’s “Changes.”

Guido Merkins

One of the most well-known songs on the White Album.  I want to say this song is the reason I wanted the White Album in the first place.  I first became aware of the song with a radio show I used to listen to here in New Orleans and when they’d go through birthdays, they’d play Birthday in the background.

Birthday led off the Side 3 of the White Album and sits along the other rockers on that side.  Paul made up the riff and he and John literally made up the song on the spot in the studio.  John later called it “garbage”, but that riff is a real ear worm and impossible to forget. The riff is the best part of the song.

It sounds like something totally improvised in the studio and it has that totally loose feel.  Love the drumming and I love the difference in feel between Paul’s roaring vocals on the verses and John’s more laid back middle (yes we’re going to a party party.)  It was inevitable that for Ringo’s 70th birthday celebration at Radio City Music Hall that Paul and Ringo would get together and perform Birthday.

 
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Tell Me What You See
2022 Ranking: 111
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 30
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Sharon) (2) @falguy (21) @landrys hat (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: NR
Filler, or not, Simple, basic, whatever you want to suggest I think this is a pretty cool tune.  I tap my feet and sing along every time it's on.  Love the variance between  the low vocal in "Open up your eyes now" and "Tell me what you see" and the little bridge.   The song just flows along like a lazy river. 

My other songs are all of the "well known" variety.  I had identified about 6 newer (to me) songs for my list and decided to select 1.  After many listens this was the one I came up with.

 
2019 write-up:

Birthday (White Album, 1968)

It's love it and hate it within the same song!  What I love about this:  it's a rave-up; the guitar riff; the drums; the music (but not the vocals) between 0:42-1:43; the "take a ch-ch-ch-chance" bit; the fact that it seems a rare bit of fun during their White Album sessions.  What I hate about this:  the lyrics oh god those ####### lyrics; Paul's cookie-monster vocal; the "biiiiirthday" backing vocals by Yoko Ono and Pattie Harrison; the fact that I can't hear it without thinking of that stupid Anthony Michael Hall character in that stupid Sixteen Candles movie.  I could overlook everything else if it weren't for the lyrics.  Paul claimed this was a collaboration with John; as was often the case, John claimed no part in it and called it "a piece of garbage."

Mr. krista:  "Badass riff.  Badass drumbeat.  It sounds like a Little Richard song, too.  It has that kind of effortlessness that comes from just being able to rock out a song.  I like the reverse polka, pa-oom instead of oom-pa, from Ringo.  Listen to this.  [Plays me Little Richard's "The Girl Can’t Help it."]  It’s the same song."

Suggested cover:  Paul Weller.  And in tribute to prior discussion in the thread:  The Iveys

2022 Supplement:  Yeah, I still don’t like this nearly as much as the rest of you do.  It’s sometimes a “change the channel” for me, even.

Paul says that this song was written specifically with live performance in mind, which might be the reason he continues to perform it at his shows to this day.  I remember waiting expectantly for his encore when I saw him in Vancouver in 2018; I’d read that the first number of the encore would be either “Yesterday,” “I Saw Her Standing There,” or this song.  We got this song.  :kicksrock:   Anyway, Paul has mentioned that this is a good concert song, because there’s always someone in the audience who has a birthday.  Hey Paul, that was not me. 
@krista4I like your write-ups better when you are annoyed. :lmao:

What is the old saying: "If you haven't got anything nice to say, come sit next to me."?

 
I have nothing against this song, but I don't usually listen to it unless I'm wishing someone a happy birthday, and I send this song in a link, or play it in person. It's a great song for that. I like the drums and guitar in it. 

🎂  🎈
First thing I do in the morning on each of my grand daughters birthdays each year when I see them.

 
After a busy weekend, here are the album totals to date (68 songs)

Singles 11
White Album 11
With The Beatles 7
Beatles for Sale 6
Help! 5
Rubber Soul 5
Magical Mystery Tour: 4
Please Please Me 4
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 4
A Hard Day's Night 3
Revolver 3
Abbey Road 2
Yellow Submarine 2
Let It Be 1




White album now caught up to Singles 

Other useless stats:

  • First song from Abbey Road didn't come until song 64 (Maxwell's Silver Hammer)
  • Second song from Abbey Road came 2 songs later (Because)
  • 42 song gap between songs from A Hard Days Night between song 19 (Tell Me Why) and song 61 (I'm Happy Just To Dance With You) 
  • Song 21 (For You Blue) from Let It Be still the only song from this Album. When will we get the next one?
  • 8 songs from 8 different albums = longest stretch of no repeats (Songs 55 - 62, also happened at least twice earlier)


Like I said these are useless stats. I have no idea why I tally them.  :shrug:

As requested earlier, after 4 more I'll start a new album total for the top 100.  

 
Birthday
2022 Ranking: 105
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 33
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Rob) (7) @Dwayne Hoover (12)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 129/2/6

Getz comments:  Shoutout to my FIL on his 92nd BDay.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  144

2019 write-up:

Birthday (White Album, 1968)

It's love it and hate it within the same song!  What I love about this:  it's a rave-up; the guitar riff; the drums; the music (but not the vocals) between 0:42-1:43; the "take a ch-ch-ch-chance" bit; the fact that it seems a rare bit of fun during their White Album sessions.  What I hate about this:  the lyrics oh god those ####### lyrics; Paul's cookie-monster vocal; the "biiiiirthday" backing vocals by Yoko Ono and Pattie Harrison; the fact that I can't hear it without thinking of that stupid Anthony Michael Hall character in that stupid Sixteen Candles movie.  I could overlook everything else if it weren't for the lyrics.  Paul claimed this was a collaboration with John; as was often the case, John claimed no part in it and called it "a piece of garbage."

Mr. krista:  "Badass riff.  Badass drumbeat.  It sounds like a Little Richard song, too.  It has that kind of effortlessness that comes from just being able to rock out a song.  I like the reverse polka, pa-oom instead of oom-pa, from Ringo.  Listen to this.  [Plays me Little Richard's "The Girl Can’t Help it."]  It’s the same song."

Suggested cover:  Paul Weller.  And in tribute to prior discussion in the thread:  The Iveys

2022 Supplement:  Yeah, I still don’t like this nearly as much as the rest of you do.  It’s sometimes a “change the channel” for me, even.

Paul says that this song was written specifically with live performance in mind, which might be the reason he continues to perform it at his shows to this day.  I remember waiting expectantly for his encore when I saw him in Vancouver in 2018; I’d read that the first number of the encore would be either “Yesterday,” “I Saw Her Standing There,” or this song.  We got this song.  :kicksrock:   Anyway, Paul has mentioned that this is a good concert song, because there’s always someone in the audience who has a birthday.  Hey Paul, that was not me. 

This song was improvised on the spot at Abbey Road, on a night when some additional visitors were there, including awful Pattie Boyd and even-more-awful Eric Clapton.  The band used the riff from Little Richard’s “Lucille” as a starting point, and developed it from there.  The also incorporated an idea from The Who’s “My Generation,” which was the “stutter” of “f-f-f-f-f-f.”  That became the basis of the “cha-cha-cha-cha-chance” in this song, which was then adapted again later in David Bowie’s “Changes.”

Guido Merkins

One of the most well-known songs on the White Album.  I want to say this song is the reason I wanted the White Album in the first place.  I first became aware of the song with a radio show I used to listen to here in New Orleans and when they’d go through birthdays, they’d play Birthday in the background.

Birthday led off the Side 3 of the White Album and sits along the other rockers on that side.  Paul made up the riff and he and John literally made up the song on the spot in the studio.  John later called it “garbage”, but that riff is a real ear worm and impossible to forget. The riff is the best part of the song.

It sounds like something totally improvised in the studio and it has that totally loose feel.  Love the drumming and I love the difference in feel between Paul’s roaring vocals on the verses and John’s more laid back middle (yes we’re going to a party party.)  It was inevitable that for Ringo’s 70th birthday celebration at Radio City Music Hall that Paul and Ringo would get together and perform Birthday.
Today would have been my mother-in-law's 76th birthday.  :kicksrock:

Birthday is a blast to listen to and one of the few White Album tracks that sounds like they were having fun when they recorded it. The lyrics are awful, but not in a grotesque way like Run for Your Life, so there's no harm when grafted onto an arrangement like this. Needless to say I'm much closer to Mr. K than to Krista on this one. 

 
Mother Nature’s Son
2022 Ranking: 104
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 34
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Worth) (7) @Getzlaf15 (16) @fatguyinalittlecoat (21)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 94/3/18

Getz comments:  I’m on the board! All day long I'm sitting doing write ups for everyone. lol.  This is my go to chill song. I didn't have the ranked in 2019. One of many songs that really grew on me during the 2019 thread.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  40


2019 write-up:

Mother Nature's Son (White Album, 1968)

I always intended to rank these two together [EDITOR’S NOTE:  this was originally written up with “Blackbird”] and do the write-ups together, because I think they're the same song.  Ok, one has tweety-bird sounds and the other doesn't, but otherwise they're similar.  They're both Paul songs on which no other Beatles perform. They're both acoustic guitar driven with Paul's finger-picking style.  They both feature pure, peaceful Paul vocals.  They were both composed just after the India trip and included on the White Album.  They both have simple but stunningly beautiful melodies and redolent lyrics.  They both have "nature" overtones, though Paul years later asserted that "Blackbird" was about the US civil right movement.  In both you can hear Paul's feet tapping.  The chord progressions even sound the same to me, though I'm too lazy to look it up right now.  Some differences exist, though, such as the small tempo changes in "Blackbird" that aren't in the comparatively simple "Mother Nature's Son," and the absence of stupid bird noises in "Mother Nature's Son." Also, not every human with a guitar plays "Mother Nature's Son."

I love both of these songs as gorgeous, near-perfect creations, the only downside of them being that they seem like Paul solo works instead of Beatles songs, primarily because they were. Actually I enjoy "Mother Nature's Son" even more than "Blackbird," finding its melody and lyrics slightly more enchanting, and that four-note guitar run at the end of the second line of the second and third verses does it for me.  I prefer it, that is, until we get to the end.  That last line, where Paul sings, "Mother Nature's soooon" as if he were ending a Broadway show, jazz hands and all, drives me batty and makes me rank it just behind "Blackbird."

Fun fact:  the recording engineer accidentally used the sound of a thrush instead of a blackbird in the initial mix of "Blackbird."  Luckily someone else caught it and corrected the error.  How embarrassing would it have been to have a thrush when everyone knows that's not a blackbird?  Whew!

Mr. krista (Mother Nature's Son):  "It’s really good.  There’s a great cover by Harry Nilsson.  It’s really beautiful."

Mr. krista (Blackbird):  "The chords are so pleasing; no wonder everyone with an acoustic guitar learns this song.  It’s perfect the way it is.  That line - into the light of the dark black night - is so evocative.  Those are some of Paul McCartney’s best lyrics and writing and it bothers me that Paul McCartney, who is clearly a fantastic writer, feels that Western trap that everything has to be symbolic, that everything has to represent some larger concept. That a thing can’t just be what it is and beautiful on its own account.  But this is some of his best songwriting.  The Tweety Bird noises don’t help it, though."

Suggested cover (Mother Nature's Son):  Well, OK, Mr. krista, here's Harry Nilsson (the use of strings instead of brass is lovely)

Suggested cover (Blackbird):  Well, duh.

2022 Supplement:  I might not rank them quite as highly today, but I’ve grown to appreciate both of these songs as a bridge to much of Paul’s solo work, with which I became even more closely familiar with in the past few years.  I can pair these now in my mind with a song like “Little Willow” or one of my top Paul solo songs, “Calico Skies,” to understand Paul’s genius in creating pure, gentle acoustic songs with simple arrangements and gorgeous melodies.  While I’m still not sure we needed these two plus “I Will” all to be on the White Album, I wouldn’t want to eliminate any of them.

Paul has spoken a lot about his inspiration for this song.  One of his childhood homes was about a mile from rural Lancashire, which he described as having the feel “as if you’d fallen off the end of the Earth.  It was all woods and streams and fields of golden corn waving – everything you love about the countryside.”  He describes that he would often go walking and just wandering around, enjoying the bird life and feeling lucky to be able to access this place, and in particular he was a “golden memory” of watching a skylark rising, “singing as if its life depends on it, and it goes up this column of air till it gets to the top, and then it stops singing and just glides down.”  All of these memories was primary to his mind when he composed this song – “a love song to the natural world.”

Oh, also:  pot.  He has said the line “my field of grass” was a little joke to himself as he liked to stick that stuff in the songs and see if anyone noticed.  So, a love song to nature and to weed.

An earlier take, a fun look into the genius at work, was included in the Anthology series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCJ0c-UXHSI His vocal sounds incredible, and there are some interesting changes in the guitar part at the end, though I prefer the approach in the finished product.  Also a terrific version of this in the Esher demos:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu3zzAeII_I

Guido Merkins

The Beatles spent time in 1968 in Rishikesh and wrote most of the songs that would eventually be on the White Album.  One of the lectures from the Maharishi resulted in a Lennon song called Child of Nature (which would eventually be known as Jealous Guy) and a McCartney song called Mother Nature’s Son.  

Mother’s Nature Son was recorded by McCartney solo (which is something Lennon increasingly hated).  Paul recorded the drums like halfway down a hall or something, so they sound kind of muffled.  The main thing is Paul on acoustic guitar, which he did so well.  The vocal is outstanding.  There is also some brass on the song which George Martin helped with.  

I like the song, but in my opinion it’s the weakest of Paul’s 3 solo acoustic songs on the White Album after Blackbird and I Will and I’m not sure it’s really needed, but on the White Album almost nothing was discarded.

 
I Will
2022 Ranking: 110
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 31
Ranked Highest by:@fatguyinalittlecoat (4) Shaft41(son1) (17)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 97/2/17

Getz comments:  We are in the middle of a 16-song run of songs that received either two or three votes. After that, it’s almost all five or more. Two more first timers! 21 left to go...


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  117


2019 write-up:

I Will (White Album, 1968)

Beautiful and hummable, stuck-in-your-head song with a fabulous guitar line from Paul that sounds more George-like than George does.  Readers of my first post in this thread, which is none of you, will note my statement that I'm not sentimental or sappy.  As a result, this lovely song from the Paul McCartney automatic-song-generator gets high points for all of that plus its absolutely gorgeous harmonies but is docked compared to other songs due to its hokey lyrics:

Love you forever and forever

Love you with all my heart

Love you whenever we're together

Love you when we're apart.

  Mr. krista:  "THAT sounds like a song that was written in 1964.  It’s a lovely little Beatles tune.  They were in India when he wrote it so they were probably feeling particularly decent.  McCartney is best when he seems vulnerable."

Suggested cover:  Allison Krauss holy hell

2022 Supplement:  Paul has indicated that the melody for this song had been hanging around for a while before he finally set it down in February 1968 while in India; he still counts it as one of his favorite melodies he’s ever written.  The [Editors’ note:  dreadful] lyrics took him a while longer, kicking them around with Donovan after an evening of meditation but never becoming quite satisfied before deciding to go for “very simple words, straight love-song.”  He describes this as his being “in my troubadour mode,” not addressing the lyrics to Jane Asher or any particular person, but instead setting the words and music to a film he’s watching in his head.  This seems to tie to my earlier discussion of how John wrote more autobiographically, while Paul was more about imaginary worlds.

Paul must have been reading the 2019 thread.  😉  In the Lyrics, he writes:  “This is a song about the joy of love.  Those are sometimes thought of as being soppy or sweet or saccharine.  Yes, I understand that.  But love can be the mightiest, strongest force on the planet.  Right now in Vietnam, or in Brazil, there are people falling in love.  They often want to have children.  It’s a strong, universal force.  It’s not soppy at all.”

Has Sir Paul convinced me?  Nah, I still hate the lyrics to this otherwise gorgeous song.

Guido Merkins

The Beatles wrote lots of songs in India.  One of them that Paul had a melody for, but had problems with the words was a song called I Will.  He finally just attached some very simple words to it and recorded it.

I Will features just Paul, John and Ringo.  Not sure what George was doing.  Paul on acoustic guitar, John and Ringo on percussion and Paul singing a bass line.  Paul has a gift for these types of songs with just himself on acoustic guitar.  Yesterday, Blackbird, even demos like Goodbye and into his solo career with Calico Skies from Flaming Pie.  I Will is one of those.  Paul would be a good guy to have around a campfire with just an acoustic guitar.


I Will is one of those songs I heard the first time I heard the White Album and I instantly loved it. Paul thought it was one of his best melodies and it came to him effortlessly. It sounds like it.
I believe I had this on my list in 2019, and there's no reason I shouldn't have put it on again.  It's awesome.  My suckertude of a lovely Paul melody is well-documented.  My son has been raised right.  

 
Yeah I have I Will, Mother Nature’s Son and Blackbird on my list.  Those beautiful acoustic guitar melodies are my favorite and I don’t mind picking three from the same album.

Also I voted for it before I knew it was a love song to weed, now I want to rank it even higher.

 
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Yeah I have I Will, Mother Nature’s Son and Blackbird on my list.  Those beautiful acoustic guitar melodies are my favorite and I don’t mind picking three from the same album.

Also I voted for it before I knew it was a love song to weed, now I want to rank it even higher.


I wondered if this one or "I Will" might be the song you were working on a performance of, but I guess not.

Also, thank you for reading my post!

 
Today would have been my mother-in-law's 76th birthday.  :kicksrock:

Birthday is a blast to listen to and one of the few White Album tracks that sounds like they were having fun when they recorded it. The lyrics are awful, but not in a grotesque way like Run for Your Life, so there's no harm when grafted onto an arrangement like this. Needless to say I'm much closer to Mr. K than to Krista on this one. 
The lyrics stink but the instruments make up for them for me.   This is just a jam by the band and I still enjoy the song.   

 
So we will have 18 of the 71 voters (25%) have all 25 of their songs in the Top 100.

 

WorrieKing---0

WhoKnew---0

Westerberg---0

turnjose7---0

Tom Hagen---0

shuke---0

pecorino---0

Krista4---0

Krista (Doug)---0

jamny---0

Iluv80s---0

Guido Merkins---0

ekbeats---0

Dr Octupus---0

DocHoliday---0

Devin's Dad---0

Devin---0

Bobby Layne---0

 
Mother Nature’s Son
2022 Ranking: 104
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 34
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Worth) (7) @Getzlaf15 (16) @fatguyinalittlecoat (21)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 94/3/18

Getz comments:  I’m on the board! All day long I'm sitting doing write ups for everyone. lol.  This is my go to chill song. I didn't have the ranked in 2019. One of many songs that really grew on me during the 2019 thread.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  40


2019 write-up:

Mother Nature's Son (White Album, 1968)

I always intended to rank these two together [EDITOR’S NOTE:  this was originally written up with “Blackbird”] and do the write-ups together, because I think they're the same song.  Ok, one has tweety-bird sounds and the other doesn't, but otherwise they're similar.  They're both Paul songs on which no other Beatles perform. They're both acoustic guitar driven with Paul's finger-picking style.  They both feature pure, peaceful Paul vocals.  They were both composed just after the India trip and included on the White Album.  They both have simple but stunningly beautiful melodies and redolent lyrics.  They both have "nature" overtones, though Paul years later asserted that "Blackbird" was about the US civil right movement.  In both you can hear Paul's feet tapping.  The chord progressions even sound the same to me, though I'm too lazy to look it up right now.  Some differences exist, though, such as the small tempo changes in "Blackbird" that aren't in the comparatively simple "Mother Nature's Son," and the absence of stupid bird noises in "Mother Nature's Son." Also, not every human with a guitar plays "Mother Nature's Son."

I love both of these songs as gorgeous, near-perfect creations, the only downside of them being that they seem like Paul solo works instead of Beatles songs, primarily because they were. Actually I enjoy "Mother Nature's Son" even more than "Blackbird," finding its melody and lyrics slightly more enchanting, and that four-note guitar run at the end of the second line of the second and third verses does it for me.  I prefer it, that is, until we get to the end.  That last line, where Paul sings, "Mother Nature's soooon" as if he were ending a Broadway show, jazz hands and all, drives me batty and makes me rank it just behind "Blackbird."

Fun fact:  the recording engineer accidentally used the sound of a thrush instead of a blackbird in the initial mix of "Blackbird."  Luckily someone else caught it and corrected the error.  How embarrassing would it have been to have a thrush when everyone knows that's not a blackbird?  Whew!

Mr. krista (Mother Nature's Son):  "It’s really good.  There’s a great cover by Harry Nilsson.  It’s really beautiful."

Mr. krista (Blackbird):  "The chords are so pleasing; no wonder everyone with an acoustic guitar learns this song.  It’s perfect the way it is.  That line - into the light of the dark black night - is so evocative.  Those are some of Paul McCartney’s best lyrics and writing and it bothers me that Paul McCartney, who is clearly a fantastic writer, feels that Western trap that everything has to be symbolic, that everything has to represent some larger concept. That a thing can’t just be what it is and beautiful on its own account.  But this is some of his best songwriting.  The Tweety Bird noises don’t help it, though."

Suggested cover (Mother Nature's Son):  Well, OK, Mr. krista, here's Harry Nilsson (the use of strings instead of brass is lovely)

Suggested cover (Blackbird):  Well, duh.

2022 Supplement:  I might not rank them quite as highly today, but I’ve grown to appreciate both of these songs as a bridge to much of Paul’s solo work, with which I became even more closely familiar with in the past few years.  I can pair these now in my mind with a song like “Little Willow” or one of my top Paul solo songs, “Calico Skies,” to understand Paul’s genius in creating pure, gentle acoustic songs with simple arrangements and gorgeous melodies.  While I’m still not sure we needed these two plus “I Will” all to be on the White Album, I wouldn’t want to eliminate any of them.

Paul has spoken a lot about his inspiration for this song.  One of his childhood homes was about a mile from rural Lancashire, which he described as having the feel “as if you’d fallen off the end of the Earth.  It was all woods and streams and fields of golden corn waving – everything you love about the countryside.”  He describes that he would often go walking and just wandering around, enjoying the bird life and feeling lucky to be able to access this place, and in particular he was a “golden memory” of watching a skylark rising, “singing as if its life depends on it, and it goes up this column of air till it gets to the top, and then it stops singing and just glides down.”  All of these memories was primary to his mind when he composed this song – “a love song to the natural world.”

Oh, also:  pot.  He has said the line “my field of grass” was a little joke to himself as he liked to stick that stuff in the songs and see if anyone noticed.  So, a love song to nature and to weed.

An earlier take, a fun look into the genius at work, was included in the Anthology series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCJ0c-UXHSI His vocal sounds incredible, and there are some interesting changes in the guitar part at the end, though I prefer the approach in the finished product.  Also a terrific version of this in the Esher demos:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu3zzAeII_I

Guido Merkins

The Beatles spent time in 1968 in Rishikesh and wrote most of the songs that would eventually be on the White Album.  One of the lectures from the Maharishi resulted in a Lennon song called Child of Nature (which would eventually be known as Jealous Guy) and a McCartney song called Mother Nature’s Son.  

Mother’s Nature Son was recorded by McCartney solo (which is something Lennon increasingly hated).  Paul recorded the drums like halfway down a hall or something, so they sound kind of muffled.  The main thing is Paul on acoustic guitar, which he did so well.  The vocal is outstanding.  There is also some brass on the song which George Martin helped with.  

I like the song, but in my opinion it’s the weakest of Paul’s 3 solo acoustic songs on the White Album after Blackbird and I Will and I’m not sure it’s really needed, but on the White Album almost nothing was discarded.
My first exposure to this song was a John Denver cover — my father and stepmother had a few of his albums — which is AWFUL. He basically jazz-hands the whole song. 

I didn’t hear the Beatles version until a friend played me the entire White Album in high school. It sounded like genius next to the Denver version. 

It’s a nice, pastoral thing that I like well enough but don’t find essential.

 
Maxwell’s Silver Hammer
2022 Ranking: 109
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 31
Ranked Highest by: @Gr00vus (12) Krista(Mom/Hub) (17) Krista(TJ/Alex) (17)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 106T/1/14

Getz:  Fond memories of this played on the Dr. D show.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  153

2019 write-up:

Maxwell's Silver Hammer (Abbey Road, 1969)

A favorite of noted FFA nice-guy @Gr00vus, this song might be the only one with Ringo listed on "anvil."  I've probably rated this higher than many others would, including the rest of the Beatles who all hated it.  John didn't even play on it but claimed that the numerous takes led it to cost more money to make than anything else on the record.  

It's another bit of Paul's "granny music" with a made-up cast of characters, so different in style to the more personal songwriting of John and George.  I loved this description from Paul of the differences in their writing styles:  "Some of my songs are based on personal experiences, but my style is to veil it.  A lot of them are made up, like 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer,' which is the kind of song I like to write.  It's just a silly story about all these people I'd never met.  It's just like writing a play:  you don't have to know the people; you just make them up.  I remember George once saying to me, 'I couldn't write songs like that.'  He writes more from personal experience.  John's style was to show the naked truth.  If I was a painter, I'd probably mask things a little bit more than some people."

Though in a similar style, it gets a slight nod from me over "When I'm Sixty-Four" by virtue of the fact that it cracks me the hell up. You can just find yourself humming along with this jaunty ditty and then realize it's about murder.  Paul McCartney is one weird dude.  He has said that the song is supposed to be symbolic of when something suddenly goes wrong in your life (all is going well and then "bang bang!"), but I prefer just to enjoy it as a homicidal rampage.

The song's placement on Abbey Road seems a little jarring to me, so I wasn't surprised to learn that Paul originally wrote it for the White Album but it wasn't recorded in time to make the cut.  My favorite aspects of this song are those anvil hits on the "Bang bang," the synth, the slurring of the bass to make it sound like a tuba, and of course the humor.  Paul sings it in a fashion almost like he's telling a children's story - a violent, gruesome children's story.

Mr. krista:  "I think the lyrics are good.  I like songs about guys who kill people with hammers. But I don’t much like this song."

Suggested cover:  Though it's from The Film That Shall Not Be Named, I'm such a fan of his that I can't resist:  Steve Martin

2022 Supplement:  I wonder if this will get a “Get Back” bump, as I’d think seeing Mal Evans on the anvil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifPOpFY5LyE) or John’s version of the song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a281gs_OQq4) might have charmed people.  Paul has ascribed some of the time spent on this song, which he pegs at three days, to the fact that Robert Moog showed up to Abbey Road with his Moog synthesizer, and they were having fun playing around with that.  He does acknowledge that the other Beatles were getting pissed at how much time they spent on this, though he also has said that, no matter what troubles they were having, they was always great joy among them in the studio right until the end, which I think we’ve seen in the Get Back documentary.  But a bit sadly, he has analogized the feel of this song to the end of the Beatles, too:  “…there we were, recording a song like ‘Maxwell’s Silver Hammer’ and knowing we would never have the opportunity to perform it.  That possibility was over.  It had been knocked on the head like one of Maxwell’s victims.  Bang bang.”

Fun fact:  Paul took the word “pataphysical,” which he rhymed with “quizzical,” from a radio broadcast he heard of a work by French dramatist Alfred Jarry, which was subtitled “a pataphysial extravaganza.”  The “word” is just a bit of nonsense with no meaning, that was meant to poke fun at intellectuals, and Paul loved the idea of using it in this rhyme scheme.

2022 Mr. krista Supplement:  I like this a lot more than I did.  I really enjoyed seeing Mal Evans with the anvil.  This doughy, pudgy dude forging a knife off-time…he never got the bang-bang part right, could never get his hammer up in time.  The lyrics are fun and they seemed to be having a good time and not taking it seriously.  In the documentary it looked like John had a lot of fun with it, too.

Guido Merkins

John, George, and Ringo all hated this song.  Paul liked to write these kind of old fashioned jazzy numbers.  I can deal with When I’m 64 because it fits the Sgt Pepper album in theme and musically.  But Paul had, at least, one of these songs, seemingly, for every album he released, even into the 1970s.  Some are better than others.  This one I’m not a huge fan of.

Paul was trying to contrast the kind of corny music with the telling of the story of a serial killer who killed people with a “bang bang Maxwell’s silver hammer came down upon his/her head.”  Mal Evans sat and banged an anvil with a hammer as a sound effect.  This song, like some of the others on Abbey Road features a Moog synthesizer. 

The other Beatles claimed that they spent weeks on the song.  Paul claimed that they spent 3 hours.  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but this is, IMO, the weakest song on Abbey Road, by far.  Hard to believe that almost any of the songs that we know George had for All Things Must Pass wouldn’t have been better than this.
Literally the only positive thing I can say about this song was that Mal Evans looked as happy as George with someone to dance with when he was playing that anvil in Get Back.  

 
Because
2022 Ranking: 107T
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 32
Ranked Highest by: @Dwayne Hoover (6) @Shaft41 (14)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 109/1/13

Getz comments:  DH now on the board.  Down to 20...


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  139

2019 write-up:

Because (Abbey Road, 1969)

Listen, this is unquestionably a great song.  It's placement at #139 isn't a reflection of how masterful it is, but instead a function of (1) its being a song I admire more than love, and (2) the Beatles, man.  There are so many of their songs I find myself wanting to hear more often.

The construction of the song is one of the intriguing aspects; the story goes that John was listening to Yoko play Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata on the piano and used those chords, played backwards, to frame the song.  The lyrics are straightforward, or as John termed them "no bull####."  The real star for me is the three-part harmony that is triple-tracked to make it seem like a choir.  The ending of the song is great.  Haunting, gorgeous...this is a song that when the mood strikes you, there's nothing better.  The mood just doesn't strike me all that often.

Mr. krista:  "I kinda like that song.  Interesting structure.  Seems more like choral music.  When is the last time they did three-part harmonies throughout?  Harpsichord doing a guitar line.  It must have been a ####### ##### to record."

Suggested covers:  Elliott Smith  George Clinton   I do not suggest the following terrifying cover:  Devo

2022 Supplement:  John gives credit for the harmonies to George Martin (who agreed that he had to tell the three exactly which notes to sing:  “As for the harmonies, I just asked George Martin, or whoever was 'round, 'What's the alternative to thirds and fifths?' as they're the only ones I know, and he would play them on a piano, and we'd say, 'Oh, we'll have that one.' So, I couldn't tell you what they are, I just know it's harmony.”

George has said these were difficult harmonies to sing, as they were out of practice on them, and Geoff Emerick reported that the three practiced each pass 20-30 times before moving on, the problem not being in the pitch but in the phrasing.  The recording of this portion was particularly intimate, with all four of the Beatles (including Ringo for moral support) in a semi-circle, the lights turned down low.  It took over five hours to get the vocals right, an amount of time they would have taken for practically an entire album in the early years, but unlike the marathon sessions for some of Paul’s “granny music,” all four Beatles seemed to want to put in that effort in a quest for perfection on this song.  Emerick has said he never heard complaints, and unlike most of their sessions this one was deeply serious, without their usual clowning around.  He paints a beautiful picture of a team at its peak:  “That day I saw the four Beatles at their finest: there was one hundred percent concentration from all of them – even Ringo, sitting quietly with his eyes closed, silently urging his bandmates on to their best performance – all working in tandem to get that vocal nailed, spot on. It was a stark example of the kind of teamwork that had been so sorely lacking for years.”

The vocals in isolation:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmZw8BuqU10

Guido Merkins

Believe it or not, Yoko Ono is actually a classically trained musician.  One day she was with John playing Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata and John asked her if she could reverse the chords.  Around that experiment, John wrote Because for the Abbey Road album.  Now whether or not it’s EXACTLY Moonlight Sonata backwards is disputed elsewhere, but regardless, that’s where John got the inspiration.

Because is known mostly for the gorgeous 3 part harmonies by John, Paul, and George which, according to George were really hard to learn and perfect.  It is also notable in that there is an electric harpsichord and a Moog synthesizer.  John plays electric guitar with George Martin on the harpsichord.  There are no drums on the track, but apparently, George Martin was worried about his ability to keep time with John since the guitar and harpsichord had to echo each other, so Martin had Ringo hitting the high hat and had that fed into the cans to keep time.  Ringo the metronome!!!!!

The lyrics for the song are very straightforward or as John said “no bull####, no imagery.”  And they are quite beautiful “because the world is round it turns me on”, “because the sky is blue it makes me cry”, etc. 

If you want to hear those harmonies naked, so to speak, head on over to Anthology 3.  Apparently they dubbed the harmonies a few times because it sounds like more than 3 voices.  I think I remember Mark Lewison saying they dubbed it 3 times, so it would be like 9 voices.
The write-ups nail it.  The boys used to do these 3 part harmonies all the time.  As the group splintered and the songs became solo works with a backing band, they happened less and less.  The image of these dudes sitting in a half-circle going through these intricate, difficult harmonies over and over, working hard, getting it right, when they were on the verge of splitting up is so heart-wrenching and yet so touching to me.  The song and harmonies are more than good enough to stand on their own, but the love, work and brotherhood that went into making it makes it all the more special.  

 
Birthday
2022 Ranking: 105
2022 Lists: 2
2022 Points: 33
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Rob) (7) @Dwayne Hoover (12)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 129/2/6

Getz comments:  Shoutout to my FIL on his 92nd BDay.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  144
Happy 92nd to your FIL! Many happy returns.

127th overall abs 20th of 30 for The Beatles 

Don't hate it but can’t ever remember busting it out for anyone’s celebration. Contrasted with scores of times we have played or sang Stevie Wonder’s bday song. It’s a good jam but if I’m not listening to it after another lap around the sun then when? Pretty much never except when listening to all 30 (or 107 if I’m in a mood for the Suowr Deluxe.)

Mother Nature’s Son
2022 Ranking: 104
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 34
Ranked Highest by: Krista(Worth) (7) @Getzlaf15 (16) @fatguyinalittlecoat (21)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 94/3/18

Getz comments:  I’m on the board! All day long I'm sitting doing write ups for everyone. lol.  This is my go to chill song. I didn't have the ranked in 2019. One of many songs that really grew on me during the 2019 thread.


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  40
Getz is off the snide. Hurray.

124th and 19th of 30. Tbh I feel like this is one that could have been shelved if the inmates were not running the asylum for those sessions. But even though it’s a weaker album bc nobody was in charge, that’s hardly anything to complain about.

We’re getting to the point where I love every song that gets counted down. I love 100+ more, but they’re all good songs. IMO

 
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Paul says that this song was written specifically with live performance in mind, which might be the reason he continues to perform it at his shows to this day.  I remember waiting expectantly for his encore when I saw him in Vancouver in 2018; I’d read that the first number of the encore would be either “Yesterday,” “I Saw Her Standing There,” or this song.  We got this song.  :kicksrock:   Anyway, Paul has mentioned that this is a good concert song, because there’s always someone in the audience who has a birthday.  Hey Paul, that was not me. 


I had a typo in here, and that year should have been 2019.  It matters.

 
My cat, Archie, likes to roll in catnip, and then go in a specific room and meditate. I need to make a meditation playlist for him, and I think he'd enjoy this song being on there.
If you were to get another cat, would you be open to naming him Jughead? 

 
I'll throw in money to World Central Kitchen and to the charity of the winner's choice!
I will add to Krista's donation to World Central Kitchen.  I think Jose Andres is one of the most generous, caring and hard-working people that I am aware of and I want to support his efforts.  The name of his non-profit, World Central Kitchen, perfectly describes his mission.

 
Within You Without You
2022 Ranking: 103
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 36
Ranked Highest by: @ProstheticRGK (4) @MAC_32 (13) @Yankee23Fan (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 138T/1/1

Getz:  Off the one vote, one point 2019 mat and up to 3/36. Yankee2Fan on the board!


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  89


2019 write-up:

Within You Without You (Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, 1967)

I get that George's three heavily-Indian-influenced songs -  this, "The Inner Light" (ranked previously), and "Love You To" - aren't for everyone.  They work for me, however, and I love each of them; on any given day, I might prefer any of the three to the others based on what I want out of a song that day, whether it's "The Inner Light" for the beautiful melody, or this one for its mesmerizing quality.  This is another case where I enjoy a song more outside of its location on an album; on Sgt. Pepper's it feels like an odd fit, but as a stand-alone track it's outstanding.  

George wrote this as a "mini version" of a 30+-minute-long Ravi Shankar piece, and George is the only Beatle on the record, all the other music having been played by Neil Aspinall and a variety of Indian musicians on traditional instruments, and a group of string musicians directed by George Martin.  Apparently the other Beatles were dubious of the song when George first brought it in; strumming some of the lines on an acoustic guitar didn't give a good impression of the grandeur of the song once all the other musicians would be added.  Clearly the finished product grew on them, though.  Ringo loved it, and Paul has called it "completely landmark...in Western recording."  Even John, ever critical of his own music and everyone else's, had good things to say about this track, calling it one of George's best:  "He's clear on that song. His mind and his music are clear. There is his innate talent; he brought that sound together."

I think the two Georges did amazing work on this song and that in particular the layering of the Western strings with the Indian instruments and rhythms is brilliantly accomplished.  This song has so much texture, and if I were a more spiritual person I could imagine being transported by it into a state of calm connection with the world.  Without that spirituality, I still find the song hypnotic and soothing, and while George's sleepy vocal wouldn't be my favorite in another context, here it seems perfect for the mood.  The only aspect of the song that I don't enjoy is the laughter at the end, which was added by George to break up the somber mood but I find unnecessary.    

Mr. krista:  "This is what I wished 'Love You To' had been.  It’s pretty direct in what it’s about but the music achieves it.  I really like it.  It’s obviously about it being a construct of our own minds that we’re separate from one another and attempts to bridge that gap.  It’s at once expansive yet really intimate.  There’s very little that’s Western about it – not the sentiment or the music – except the lyrics in English.  You don’t need the lyrics to get the song anyway; the melody is enough. I’m guessing it’s not super-complex for Indian music but slides right in rather seamlessly.  I love the layered odd strings and drones."

Suggested cover:  Sonic Youth  Patti Smith

2022 Supplement:  Though they were initially skeptical, the rest of the Beatles eventually came around to this song, as described in 2019.  Even George Martin eventually was a supporter:  “It was a bit of a relief all around.  The tune struck me as being a little bit of a dirge, but I found what George wanted to do with the song fascinating.” To set the mood for the visiting Indian musicians, the team covered the floor of the recording studio with woven carpets, dimmed the lights, and lit some joss sticks.  Since George Martin, unlike George Harrison, couldn’t read Indian music, George Harrison (who at this point had trained under Ravi Shankar) walked around the studio instructing each Indian musician on their parts in Martin’s score, using Indian traditional notations.  Though these Indian-influenced songs are not for many casual Beatles fans, they remain some of my favorites from George and gave a preview of some of his brilliant post-Beatles work with Shankar.  To me, this early instrumental take on the song is as compelling as, or even more so than, the finished product; I could listen for days:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NfaMyWPysQ

Guido Merkins

George’s first foray into Indian music was Revolver’s Love You To, but less than a year later, he went even deeper with Within You Without You

The song’s heavy philosophical lyrics were uncommon of rock records at this time.  Talking about people who “hide behind a wall of illusions who never glimpse the truth”, the meaning of the song is about the true nature of existence.  

The song itself, in true Indian fashion, has limited chord changes and strange time signatures.  George Martin also got Western classical musicians to play on the song, so it was a true mix of East-West musically speaking.  The section of the song with the Indian musicians playing something, that is then answered by the Western orchestra is the most interesting part of the song.  The other oddity is, after the heavy philosophical lyrics and the strange mixture of East and West, George insisted on ending the song with laughter.  Maybe he was self conscious about the heaviness of the song and wanted to lighten the mood, but I always found it a strange inclusion.

Like George’s other Indian flavored songs, it took me a while to come around to this song.  I used to skip it when I played Pepper, but over time it has grown on me.  It is probably the deepest song the Beatles ever recorded and George Harrison’s innate talent is on full display.  

 
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Within You Without You
2022 Ranking: 103
2022 Lists: 3
2022 Points: 36
Ranked Highest by: @ProstheticRGK (4) @MAC_32 (13) @Yankee23Fan (25)
2019 Ranking/Lists/Pts: 138T/1/1

Getz:  Off the one vote, one point 2019 mat and up to 3/36. Yankee2Fan on the board!


Krista4
My 2019 ranking:  89
:wub:

We're not trying to outwit the public. The whole idea is to try a little bit to lead people into different tastes.

– George Harrison, 1967

This was the biggest departure for the band up to then, and I love it.

I *think* this is my highest ranked song so far? 45th overall, 2nd out of the 13 tracks on Pepper.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
krista4 said:
Awwww, that song deserves better.  :kicksrock:  
another victim of the too many good songs...
I like the song, but there are 3-4 covers whose arrangement I prefer. That def factored in where I put it.

Same going the other direction. When the Beatles did a cover I think about it in terms of whether I like it better than the original.

 
I probably should have ranked it higher - it's just so "Ravi" I don't usually think about it as a top tune

it's so relaxing though ...

I really didn't try ranking past the ones that didn't have a chance at the top 25 ...and had 75 or so listed - it wasn't in there 


I find it very relaxing as well.  Even more so the version without vocal that I linked.

 
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