2022 Philadelphia Eagles - Leave Gannon in Arizona and let’s run through the NFC again in 2023. (4 Viewers)

[DJackson10]

Don't get too caught up in base defenses. The Eagles aren't a 3-4 or 4-3 Wide 9, Tampa 2 etc. No one really uses them now as base defenses with teams going more passing with 3-4 WRs either actually Wideouts, TEs and RBs in the fold out wide. Most played Nickel or dime defenses. Base schemes are around it but people shouldn't worry about it and are more used today to help the fans still learning and not as well advanced understand things. .

Eagles will play a multi front defense sometimes 4-5 men at the LOS. Cover 2 and 4 mixed in with other looks. It'll be a multiple look defense. Sometimes 3-4 sometimes 4-3 bases depending on down or scheme. Most teams today don't have one set of defensive fronts. I could see some 46 in there as well. They also used some 3-3-5 defense that is a bit gimmicky used in the BIG12 but used for situational purposes to get more athletic guys on the field to blitz. 

With Jordan Davis at Noise they can use Odd front defenses better then in the past. The Eagles defense is going to be like a chameleon who changes depending on situation, personnel from both offense and defense and opponent. With Hassan Reddick they have multiple ways to use him. Gannon has some fun new toys to play with on the D side of things 

You might see a totally different defense by them in terms of formations against a run heavy team like Tenn and possible the Steelers depending how far Kenny Pickett is at that point. As opposed to a pass happy Cardinals offense or playing a QB like Aaron Rodgers who can beat you multiple ways with his arms and legs.

The only thing we know for sure is this is going to be a lot of fun to watch and those of us who love the schematics and terminology will be in Football heaven watch ALL22 films and all.

 

[DJackson10]

Ain't no way Cowboys to repeat as NFC East champion this year.  Eagles are on the rise with even more pressure on Hurts. 

I don't even think they really picked up anyone and lost Cooper who killed us. 

 

[DJackson10]

Jesse Bates is a dream at this point for the Eagles. The deal it'd require is not something the Eagles like doing and they already did it once to acquire AJ Brown this offseason in a move that is out of character for them. The sexy rumor is Eagles trading Seamulo/Dillard plus picks to Cincy who need OL help but they'd need to extend Bates as well. Eagles aren't in the business of just giving away OL help though as they value the trenches more then many teams do and has been a philosophy for over 23yrs starting with Andy Reid,

Obviously things can change but Jesse Bates as an Eagle is a pipe dream 

 

[Bri]

Explain the Eagles offense for me, fantasy perspective, please

The tight ends have rocked (despite different QBs) because the WRs were questionable so the QB went thru his progressions and would always wind up at the TE as the best option.

OR

The offense is engineered to hit the TE (primary) with a lot of passes and the WRs are secondary options?

Or something else?

I've liked several WRs that have been with the Eagles and they didn't really meet my expectations for FF.

What's some projections you think are reasonable for this offense?

 

[JetMaxx]

Explain the Eagles offense for me, fantasy perspective, please

Hurts likes to run, slow to read defenses and has an average at best arm. Project him and the other skill positions accordingly. 

 

[jon007]

Hurts likes to run, slow to read defenses and has an average at best arm. Project him and the other skill positions accordingly. 

I smell sleeper...

 

[DJackson10]

Explain the Eagles offense for me, fantasy perspective, please

The tight ends have rocked (despite different QBs) because the WRs were questionable so the QB went thru his progressions and would always wind up at the TE as the best option.

OR

The offense is engineered to hit the TE (primary) with a lot of passes and the WRs are secondary options?

Or something else?

I've liked several WRs that have been with the Eagles and they didn't really meet my expectations for FF.

What's some projections you think are reasonable for this offense?

TE's were always good no matter the QB but Hurts missed a lot of opportunities to hit open WR's all year. If you saw the playoff game that short of thing missing people was routine for hurts. If you can buy low in trade or redraft leagues on Eagles WR's I'd do so. I'm not expecting HUGE HUGE YEARS from AJ or Devonta with the current QB like some believe. Plus I think they will run the ball a lot again too. 

 

[renesauz]

I've been trying to sneak Kennedy onto the tail end of my deeper dynasty rosters

 

[renesauz]

Explain the Eagles offense for me, fantasy perspective, please

The tight ends have rocked (despite different QBs) because the WRs were questionable so the QB went thru his progressions and would always wind up at the TE as the best option.

OR

The offense is engineered to hit the TE (primary) with a lot of passes and the WRs are secondary options?

Or something else?

I've liked several WRs that have been with the Eagles and they didn't really meet my expectations for FF.

What's some projections you think are reasonable for this offense?

It's really tough to say right now. In general I think they're as good as anyone at the skill positions and have a good O-line. But I'm cautious in my optimism because I don't trust Hurts to improve enough to take full advantage. If Kennedy is as good as I think he might be, they're even deep at the skill positions with what is arguably the best off-season of any team in the NFL. Dynasty I'd be buying. Redraft may well be frustrating though if Hurts doesnt take a decent step forward.

Goedert might be among the safer of them TBH. He's a stud in his own right IMO

 

[King of the Jungle]

Hard not to like how you guys on paper improved this off-season. A lot will fall on Hurts as far as how far you can go. I think the team is good enough to win the division if Minshew started the whole year but they will give Hurts a chance to reveal if he is the guy at not. If Hurts can improve this will be a fun team to watch.

 

[modogg]

Explain the Eagles offense for me, fantasy perspective, please

The tight ends have rocked (despite different QBs) because the WRs were questionable so the QB went thru his progressions and would always wind up at the TE as the best option.

OR

The offense is engineered to hit the TE (primary) with a lot of passes and the WRs are secondary options?

Or something else?

I've liked several WRs that have been with the Eagles and they didn't really meet my expectations for FF.

What's some projections you think are reasonable for this offense?

have to factor in different coaching staffs too. Dougie P loved 12 personnel. i have been doing a ton of best ball drafts, and the one that keeps me thinking on  the Eagles offense is Goedert. he split time with Ertz for like half the year, and still ended up with 75 targets, 56 receptions and 4 TDs. before AJ Brown came i think ceiling would have been you double that and you have top 1-2 TE in the league.

factor in AJ Brown gets like 100 targets this upcoming year, maybe you halve that to where Goedert ends up with 75 receptions and 6 TDs?

also should factor in the upcoming season for the Eagles. they have the 2nd friendliest schedule, so the run game may be back at it too

 

[DJackson10]

I've been trying to sneak Kennedy onto the tail end of my deeper dynasty rosters

I think he makes the team unless they get a bruiser in FA still out there. I really wanted Sony though and he did good replacing Cam Akers last year. I think how they use their backs might determine Miles Sanders future as well. 2 Min at end of half you saw a lot of Kenny G. Late in games you saw others not named Miles last year. Some of that maybe do to ball security questions they got with Sanders which he's had in college. Hasn't done that a lot in the pros but he hasn't had as many chances either. What happens at end of games with game on the line or trying to run out the clock? Brooks and Kenny G or do they keep Miles in there knowing ball security issues? Sanders also has availability issues as well. 

 

[DJackson10]

I forgot to mention this but we signed Former UF WR Josh Hammond. His brother Frankie who also went to UF played for KC Under Andy. Don't think he makes the team but he's another speedy guy I think they put on the practice squad. He'll be 24 in July

 

[Bri]

have to factor in different coaching staffs too. Dougie P loved 12 personnel. i have been doing a ton of best ball drafts, and the one that keeps me thinking on  the Eagles offense is Goedert. he split time with Ertz for like half the year, and still ended up with 75 targets, 56 receptions and 4 TDs. before AJ Brown came i think ceiling would have been you double that and you have top 1-2 TE in the league.

factor in AJ Brown gets like 100 targets this upcoming year, maybe you halve that to where Goedert ends up with 75 receptions and 6 TDs?

also should factor in the upcoming season for the Eagles. they have the 2nd friendliest schedule, so the run game may be back at it too

Do Eagles WRs get 100 targets? 

 

[need2know]

Do Eagles WRs get 100 targets? 

No way

 

[Deamon]

Do Eagles WRs get 100 targets? 

Yes.  Davonte Smith got 104 Targets last year.

 

[DJackson10]

No way

Smith had 1O4 on his own this past season. 

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

Ertz was traded after week 6.  The only 2 TD's Goedert scored after the trade, occurred in the only game Goedert played with Minshew at QB.

 

[need2know]

Smith had 1O4 on his own this past season. 

i guess what i was thinking is now that we have  2 good wrs its going to be hard for either one to have huge numbers with our offense.  i think smiths targets go down.  we are still going to run the crap out of the ball.

 

[DJackson10]

i guess what i was thinking is now that we have  2 good wrs its going to be hard for either one to have huge numbers with our offense.  i think smiths targets go down.  we are still going to run the crap out of the ball.

Yeah they really don't trust Hurts with the game in his hands. Pretty much everyone who I've talked to more in the know have agreed if there was a better upgrade this offseason Hurts would've been gone. So the team did the next best thing and build the offense more and make an easier transition for the next guy they upgrade too. Nothing wrong with that when your squad is still technically in a rebuild and some just don't understand that. 

 

[jon007]

I find this to quite interesting. 

The Eagles will become the first NFL team with commercial rights in Africa under an expansion to the NFL’s international marketing program. 
Source

I don't think this means we'll have coverage across all of Africa but mainly in Ghana.
Ghana Wiki

I'm excited to see how the world accepts American Football in comparison with Soccer, Futbol, Football or whatever it's called.

 

[DJackson10]

I find this to quite interesting. 

The Eagles will become the first NFL team with commercial rights in Africa under an expansion to the NFL’s international marketing program. 
Source

I don't think this means we'll have coverage across all of Africa but mainly in Ghana.
Ghana Wiki

I'm excited to see how the world accepts American Football in comparison with Soccer, Futbol, Football or whatever it's called.

Depends on what part of the world. Futboll is used in latin countries and England. In Italy We use Calcio.which means Soccer. Some in Italy are old school and will get majorly offended if you don't call it Calcio but most of the younger generations use either or. 

Don't forget about Australia per The Athletic

The NFL approved four new International Home Marketing Areas, the league announced Tuesday. The Rams will add New Zealand, while the Eagles will add Australia, New Zealand and Ghana — the first African market attached to an NFL team.

The IHMA program now includes 19 teams with access to 30 marketing areas across 10 different countries. The initiative, which launched in January, grants NFL clubs access to international territories for marketing, fan engagement and commercialization as part of an effort to enable clubs to build their global brands while driving NFL fan growth internationally.

The NFL will host its first events in Africa — a developmental camp and fan event in Ghana — in June.

"We've seen great momentum since teams began entering their markets earlier this year," said Peter O'Reilly, NFL executive vice president, club business and league events. "From launching social media accounts, to hosting in-market events, to announcing Draft picks from locations around the world, clubs are creating moments to really engage and energize our international fanbase. We look forward to seeing what the Eagles and Rams have planned for their new markets."

 

[The Noid]

Random Eagles tidbits I've come across recently on the 'net:

• There were 24 rookies with at least 100 pass-rush snaps in 2021, and Milton Williams hit the quarterback more often than all but six of them. None of the players ahead of him are interior defensive linemen so, in other words, Williams was the best rookie interior pass rusher in the league last year.
  
• In 2021, 3 TEs (Travis Kelce, Eric Ebron, Tommy Tremble) had more rushing TDs (1 each) than Miles Sanders (0).
  
• His 3rd year in the NFL, 2021, A.J. Brown had 8 drops for a drop rate of 11.3% on catchable passes. He had 7 total drops in his first 2 seasons. 
  
• Schedule wranglers debated on which Thursday night game to pick for the Eagles. For a long time, they had Jacksonville at Philly on the Thursday schedule for coach Peterson and his return to Philadelphia. Then they started thinking about well, should it be Tennessee-Philly and tinkered a little bit once the A.J. Brown trade happened. Once Tennessee-Green Bay was one of the Thursday nights, they couldn't do Tennessee-Philly for Thursday and considered schedules with Tennessee-Philly on Monday night, but with six or eight or nine games every Sunday afternoon at one o'clock they had to leave some decent quality there, too.
  

 

[Insein]

i guess what i was thinking is now that we have  2 good wrs its going to be hard for either one to have huge numbers with our offense.  i think smiths targets go down.  we are still going to run the crap out of the ball.

I disagree. If we're running it like we did last year, that means Hurts has made zero progress. Which means we're not getting more than 9 wins again and will be looking for a new QB next off-season.

For us to improve and win a playoff game this year, Hurts needs to take a big step forward. To do that, he's going to be passing a lot more. Hurts had 432 pass attempts last year. He's going to need at least 100-120 more this season. Someone's getting those targets. 

 

[Insein]

I've been thinking since the trade happened. AJ Brown is a huge get on paper. Howie deserves credit for improving the position. However, I worry about him failing to live up to the hype. Injuries and lack of consistent top end performance have me worried. Are we getting someone else's bad situation? Not from a attitude standpoint. More from a "we're going to owe this guy $25m a year and we don't know if he's worth it" kind of thing. And then Philly swoops in and they half heartedly go "Oh no, gee whiz guess we have to take this trade but we're really losing here." While secretly sighing relief. 

Hope he lives up to it but I'm worried. 

 

[need2know]

I disagree. If we're running it like we did last year, that means Hurts has made zero progress. Which means we're not getting more than 9 wins again and will be looking for a new QB next off-season.

For us to improve and win a playoff game this year, Hurts needs to take a big step forward. To do that, he's going to be passing a lot more. Hurts had 432 pass attempts last year. He's going to need at least 100-120 more this season. Someone's getting those targets. 

Yeah I like him but odds are against us.  We are better the less he throws.   He's yet to bring us back throwing in a game that matters

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Front office names swooped from the #

Eagles the last 2.5 years: 

Joe Douglas - Jets
Andrew Berry - Browns
Catherine Raiche - Browns
Andy Weidl - Steelers
Ian Cunningham - Bears 
Brandon Brown - Giants 

Howie Roseman doing something right.

 

[DJackson10]

I disagree. If we're running it like we did last year, that means Hurts has made zero progress. Which means we're not getting more than 9 wins again and will be looking for a new QB next off-season.

For us to improve and win a playoff game this year, Hurts needs to take a big step forward. To do that, he's going to be passing a lot more. Hurts had 432 pass attempts last year. He's going to need at least 100-120 more this season. Someone's getting those targets. 

I think we all agree with this but I think people are assuming the Eagles don't know what they have in Hurts already. Remember he was not chosen by this coaching staff and Howie originally got him as a developmental young QB back up for Pederson. So they aren't married to the guy. I think they know what they have in Hurts because I don't think they make the NO trade and get the 1st rounder for next year if they did believe in Hurts. They would've taken a QB this year and been done with it. 

 

[DJackson10]

I've been thinking since the trade happened. AJ Brown is a huge get on paper. Howie deserves credit for improving the position. However, I worry about him failing to live up to the hype. Injuries and lack of consistent top end performance have me worried. Are we getting someone else's bad situation? Not from a attitude standpoint. More from a "we're going to owe this guy $25m a year and we don't know if he's worth it" kind of thing. And then Philly swoops in and they half heartedly go "Oh no, gee whiz guess we have to take this trade but we're really losing here." While secretly sighing relief. 

Hope he lives up to it but I'm worried. 

Got to look at this from other situations involving where he was. TENN runs the ball a lot. Henrey is one of the few RBs in todays game you can hand it off almost 25+ times a game on his own and another 15 or so to the back up. He also had inconsistent QB play on top of injuries. There's also but some head scratching coaching decisions on Vrabel's part. A lot plays into that. 

For example I don't think MIA should expect the exact number Hill put up in KC. The offense and QB are different. I don't hate Tua but he's no Mahomes. It's why I'm thinking of selling Hill high in my keeper league for a possible better RB to compliment  Cook already and maybe something else. If Hill was still in KC I'd be keeping him but I have a plethora of WR depth after him and Keenan Allen. I forget my other WRs but I know at least 2 of them I could play on most other managers WR2 every week so its not like I don't have the WRs either. 

 

[need2know]

I think we all agree with this but I think people are assuming the Eagles don't know what they have in Hurts already. Remember he was not chosen by this coaching staff and Howie originally got him as a developmental young QB back up for Pederson. So they aren't married to the guy. I think they know what they have in Hurts because I don't think they make the NO trade and get the 1st rounder for next year if they did believe in Hurts. They would've taken a QB this year and been done with it. 

Yeah if qbs were better this past draft you know we would have drafted one

 

[DJackson10]

Yeah I like him but odds are against us.  We are better the less he throws.   He's yet to bring us back throwing in a game that matters

He's also had some real clunkers in passing numbers that only looked decent because of garbage time or 1 or 2 long plays. The SF game we lost both bases over 5O yards were more then half his passing yds in that game which isn't good. 

 

[DJackson10]

Front office names swooped from the #

Eagles the last 2.5 years: 

Joe Douglas - Jets
Andrew Berry - Browns
Catherine Raiche - Browns
Andy Weidl - Steelers
Ian Cunningham - Bears 
Brandon Brown - Giants 

Howie Roseman doing something right.

They interviewed Steelers head scout Brandon Hunt for the AGM role under Howie. That would be a great hire. 

 

[Insein]

Yeah if qbs were better this past draft you know we would have drafted one

If we did, we wouldn't have AJ Brown. 

 

[DJackson10]

If we did, we wouldn't have AJ Brown. 

AJ probably still comes to Philly though. He and Tannenhill weren't getting along either. With the contract he got he'd hope to the Eagles without Hurts. AJ wanted out big time from Tenn 

 

[DJackson10]

Shady sounded off on KC OC Eric Bieniemy. 

A few tidbits: Says he's overhyped and he gets propped up because everyone knows the type of coach he really is. Asked if EB was why he left KC and Shady had a resounding YES

Says EB spoke to players in inappropriate non professional matter and isn't surprised he's yet to get a coaching job as a Head guy. Basically is saying how people outside the league view him is very different to those inside the NFL

To piggyback I've heard similar about EB plus all the allegations he's had in the past. Most NFL people know he's just good an an Assistant job. Some believe the Media hype on EB is race driven do to the lack of Black HCs in the NFL which can also be true but also puts a bias over the media who aren't in the locker room or work with the guy on a daily bases. Right or wrong EB seems to be more so used for the Rooeny rule then anything else. 

To paraphrase a lot in the league like him more as an assistant to a HC and many don't believe he'd last a full year as a HC given the past history of the allegations and issues he's involved in plus the type of coach he'd be. The media seems to have this hardline that this guy is the second coming of Christ when he's nothing special. More credit has gone to Andy for the KC offense then anyone else. 

 

[babydemon90]

 Eric Bieniemy gossip seems like a great discussion topic in the the KC thread..

 

[DJackson10]

 Eric Bieniemy gossip seems like a great discussion topic in the the KC thread..

Well he was a former Eagle and one of our former players has been talking about it. And also its kind of a big overall issue in the NFL about the guy and minorities being hired. 

 

[DJackson10]

Another Philly radio personality Mikey Miss is leaving The Fan. His contract is up in a bit will take his PTO and vacation time and needs a knee issue resolved. From the sounds of it, he was #### canned and they are just allowing him to finish the contract. Miss was famous for laughing at Victor Cruz blowing out his knee in the EZ and giving Philly sports another black eye. Chip Kelly the next day went to the hospital with a gift basket for Cruz and made sure he was ok. The Eagles weren't happy about Mikey Miss behavior. Either way one less blowhard talking Eagles on Radio. Tyrone apparently who works on his show and some other guy I never heard of will replace him. 

Hopefully with the old boomers leaving radio we can inject some new younger blood and get some ACTUAL SPORTS TALK and not all these hot takes. Only guy who's gonna be missed of the bunch is Diddy though. 

Also this is another local Radio/TV personality leaving after numerious years in Philly too. 

 

[DJackson10]

Also thank god we didn't trade for Watson. 

 

[BassNBrew]

Got to look at this from other situations involving where he was. TENN runs the ball a lot. Henrey is one of the few RBs in todays game you can hand it off almost 25+ times a game on his own and another 15 or so to the back up.

While your overall point stands, a couple of clarifications for the record...

1) Tennessee backup RBs averaged 6 carries a game in 2020. 

2) No team in this century has average 40 rushing attempts per game.

 

[The Noid]

Senior Bowl week is upon us. Both Howie and Nick are in Mobile to scout. 

And Jeff Stoutland is there, along with a member of Alec Halaby's analytics staff: Julian Lurie (who also happens to be heir to the empire.) 

Julian Lurie now has an official title:

By Bo Wulf Jun 1, 2022

Julian Lurie is now officially a member of the Eagles organization.

Lurie, the 27-year-old son of Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, will have the title of Business and Football Operations Strategy, reflecting his involvement in both the football operations and business sides of the organization, according to a team source. The younger Lurie moved into a permanent office space in the NovaCare Complex earlier this offseason.

 

[DJackson10]

While your overall point stands, a couple of clarifications for the record...

1) Tennessee backup RBs averaged 6 carries a game in 2020. 

2) No team in this century has average 40 rushing attempts per game.

My point was solely to say that TENN runs the ball a lot and that Makes Brown's numbers look worse. QB situation doesn't help either. Either way the point was more so you need to look at situations of teams and how they run their offense. But yeah thanks for clearing that up. 

 

[DJackson10]

Julian Lurie now has an official title:

Was going to post this earlier this morning but my dentist appoint they could see me earlier then I made it so I din't have time. Glad its staying in family. I know som people don't like it but they don't get it anyway and are the same fans who'd bankrupt the team with their video game ideas and hot takes. I'm glad he's learning on the job though and he's not being silver spoon fed like others. 

 

[dhockster]

Was going to post this earlier this morning but my dentist appoint they could see me earlier then I made it so I din't have time. Glad its staying in family. I know som people don't like it but they don't get it anyway and are the same fans who'd bankrupt the team with their video game ideas and hot takes. I'm glad he's learning on the job though and he's not being silver spoon fed like others. 

As long as he's not just hiding in his office playing video games, like Cal McNair did when Bob was still alive, I am okay with whatever Julian is doing.

 

[DJackson10]

As long as he's not just hiding in his office playing video games, like Cal McNair did when Bob was still alive, I am okay with whatever Julian is doing.

Julian apparently went to University to learn the tricks of the trade. He's also been working in every department in the Org to know how it works, why they are important etc. I've heard he's an incredible smart kid who doesn't want to be handed anything 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

“OC Shane Steichen says he will be calling all offensive plays in upcoming 2022 NFL season. Coach Nick Sirianni has a hand in overseeing plays, but Steichen will make the calls to QB Jalen Hurts.”

Just so we know who to hang later lol

 

[need2know]

“OC Shane Steichen says he will be calling all offensive plays in upcoming 2022 NFL season. Coach Nick Sirianni has a hand in overseeing plays, but Steichen will make the calls to QB Jalen Hurts.”

Just so we know who to hang later lol

yeah his head is the first to roll

 

[Bigboy10182000]

“OC Shane Steichen says he will be calling all offensive plays in upcoming 2022 NFL season. Coach Nick Sirianni has a hand in overseeing plays, but Steichen will make the calls to QB Jalen Hurts.”

Just so we know who to hang later lol

Actually it started last year apparently:

“Going forward, I’ll be calling the plays.” Offensive coordinator Shane Steichen said he took over play-call duties mid-season in 2021, with head coach Nick Sirianni and the staff heavily involved in planning.

 

[jasvic]

Actually it started last year apparently:

“Going forward, I’ll be calling the plays.” Offensive coordinator Shane Steichen said he took over play-call duties mid-season in 2021, with head coach Nick Sirianni and the staff heavily involved in planning.

Wonder if that coincided with running the ball more. One game they flipped a switch and became super run heavy the rest of the way.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Another Philly radio personality Mikey Miss is leaving The Fan. His contract is up in a bit will take his PTO and vacation time and needs a knee issue resolved. From the sounds of it, he was #### canned and they are just allowing him to finish the contract. Miss was famous for laughing at Victor Cruz blowing out his knee in the EZ and giving Philly sports another black eye. Chip Kelly the next day went to the hospital with a gift basket for Cruz and made sure he was ok. The Eagles weren't happy about Mikey Miss behavior. Either way one less blowhard talking Eagles on Radio. Tyrone apparently who works on his show and some other guy I never heard of will replace him. 

Hopefully with the old boomers leaving radio we can inject some new younger blood and get some ACTUAL SPORTS TALK and not all these hot takes. Only guy who's gonna be missed of the bunch is Diddy though. 

Also this is another local Radio/TV personality leaving after numerious years in Philly too. 

Late to the thread here, but I liked him back in the day when he was with Steve Fredericks on WIP. Than he left to do a morning show ( I think Conklin was on the show) and became insufferable after that.