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2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (4 Viewers)

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From an NFL standpoint it'll be interesting to see what this season might do for Sam Hartman. The offense he played in at Wake doesn't compare very well with pro offenses. If he manages a good season playing in a more pro-style offense, wonder if he'll be able to jump from borderline whether he's even drafted, to even a middle round pick somewhere.
 
GregR said:
I felt kind of sorry for Ken Niumatalolo end of last year. Seemed to me he generally did a pretty good job in Navy's situation.

Though Brian Newberry seems like a kind of likeable guy too.
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I follow Navy pretty closely. Niumatalolo is a good dude and certainly did well by Navy. I thought the way they handled his dismissal was crummy, but it was probably time. In hindsight, he should have taken the Arizona job when offered a few years ago, but I expect he'll pop up at UH or one of the smaller CA schools if he wants to be a HC again (I think he's an assistant or advisor at UCLA this season).

The service academies have always had it tough, but it's even worse now - they can't accept transfers and NIL isn't in play.
 
Uruk-Hai said:
GregR said:
I felt kind of sorry for Ken Niumatalolo end of last year. Seemed to me he generally did a pretty good job in Navy's situation.

Though Brian Newberry seems like a kind of likeable guy too.
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I follow Navy pretty closely. Niumatalolo is a good dude and certainly did well by Navy. I thought the way they handled his dismissal was crummy, but it was probably time. In hindsight, he should have taken the Arizona job when offered a few years ago, but I expect he'll pop up at UH or one of the smaller CA schools if he wants to be a HC again (I think he's an assistant or advisor at UCLA this season).

The service academies have always had it tough, but it's even worse now - they can't accept transfers and NIL isn't in play.
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I think he punched way above his belt given his resources, but understand the need for change. I thought the way they executed that change was awful and may make getting future coaches even tougher.
 
GregR said:
From an NFL standpoint it'll be interesting to see what this season might do for Sam Hartman. The offense he played in at Wake doesn't compare very well with pro offenses. If he manages a good season playing in a more pro-style offense, wonder if he'll be able to jump from borderline whether he's even drafted, to even a middle round pick somewhere.
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I think it’s possible for sure. He clearly has leadership skills and can command a huddle. Part of what sold him on ND was his conversation with OC Parker on running an NFL offense for a season to alleviate concerns.

Today he showed off his accuracy and no issues from being under center. He should be helped out with a strong run game too so that he doesn’t press as much as he did at Wake. Feels like an easy 4th or 5th rounder at bare minimum with the biggest knock I suspect being his age (currently 24 already).
 
I haven't watched a game yet, but watched about an hour of officiating videos and an NAIA game in person.

Biggest rule changes this year:
1. No same team timeouts during the dead ball period
2. Blocking below the waist is further restricted to just down lineman and stationary backs in the tackle box at the snap. All blocks below the waist must be in the tackle box and while the ball is in the box.
3. Penalties at the end of the 1st or 3rd period won't extend the period (still enforced just move on to 2nd or 4th quarter after enforcement instead of an untimed down).
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.

#2 is just a continuation of the ultimate goal to completely eliminate blocking below the waist from the game.
 
Jayrod said:
I haven't watched a game yet, but watched about an hour of officiating videos and an NAIA game in person.

Biggest rule changes this year:
1. No same team timeouts during the dead ball period
2. Blocking below the waist is further restricted to just down lineman and stationary backs in the tackle box at the snap. All blocks below the waist must be in the tackle box and while the ball is in the box.
3. Penalties at the end of the 1st or 3rd period won't extend the period (still enforced just move on to 2nd or 4th quarter after enforcement instead of an untimed down).
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.

#2 is just a continuation of the ultimate goal to completely eliminate blocking below the waist from the game.
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Tiny sample size but in FBS in Week 0 #4 resulted in around 2.5-3 fewer possessions/game. I don't like it, personally.
 
facook said:
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
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hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
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Notre Dame/Navy was like 2:40 and there were six touchdowns scored.
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how many times did Navy run the ball?

games averaged 3:32 last year - https://theathletic.com/3620084/2022/09/23/college-football-games-times/
 
mr. furley said:
facook said:
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
Click to expand...
hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
Click to expand...

Notre Dame/Navy was like 2:40 and there were six touchdowns scored.
Click to expand...
how many times did Navy run the ball?

games averaged 3:32 last year - https://theathletic.com/3620084/2022/09/23/college-football-games-times/
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I'm good with 3:30 college games on my Saturday afternoon. That's not 4:15.
 
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
Click to expand...
hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
Click to expand...

I will never understand raw onions on hamburgers and I don't understand the idea of a football game taking too long. Give me a cheeseburger with everything on it, hold the onions and make the sport I love watching most last as long as you want. What's that you say? Too many commercials? Go grab a beer, empty that bag of chip crumbs on your face, let it spill down your chest and enjoy the moment a little bit longer.
 
Sullie said:
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
Click to expand...
hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
Click to expand...

I will never understand raw onions on hamburgers and I don't understand the idea of a football game taking too long. Give me a cheeseburger with everything on it, hold the onions and make the sport I love watching most last as long as you want. What's that you say? Too many commercials? Go grab a beer, empty that bag of chip crumbs on your face, let it spill down your chest and enjoy the moment a little bit longer.
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"Let's see guys, this sport is fast becoming - BY FAR - the second favorite tv sport in the richest country in the world. We'll never catch #1. Maybe that's ok though. We're different enough tens of millions of people prefer our sport to that one!"

"Sir, I have an idea! Let's try to make our sport more like #1, and lessen what makes us unique and fun!"

All: "Huzzah!"
 
facook said:
mr. furley said:
facook said:
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
Click to expand...
hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
Click to expand...

Notre Dame/Navy was like 2:40 and there were six touchdowns scored.
Click to expand...
how many times did Navy run the ball?

games averaged 3:32 last year - https://theathletic.com/3620084/2022/09/23/college-football-games-times/
Click to expand...
I'm good with 3:30 college games on my Saturday afternoon. That's not 4:15.
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i watched a Badgers game last year that went 7 and a half hours

or it felt like 7 1/2 hours. either way. that's more time than i can spare on a Saturday.
 
facook said:
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
Click to expand...
hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
Click to expand...

Notre Dame/Navy was like 2:40 and there were six touchdowns scored.
Click to expand...
I thought I saw that the average game time was actually up in the first weekend.
 
Tom Servo said:
Jayrod said:
#2 is just a continuation of the ultimate goal to completely eliminate blocking below the waist from the game.
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Probably should just rip the band aid off and ban it completely.
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I wish (makes officiating much simpler), but there was a LOT of pushback from the rules committees through the years. The idea being that some teams have recruited and designed their offense almost entirely around cut blocks so taking it away suddenly creates a severe competitive imbalance.
 
Long Ball Larry said:
facook said:
mr. furley said:
Jayrod said:
4. No stopping the clock on first downs inbounds until under 2 minutes of either half.

Biggest change is #4 and purpose is to cut a few plays out of every game by speeding up the clock.
Click to expand...
hopefully this means no more 4 hour and 15 minute college games
Click to expand...

Notre Dame/Navy was like 2:40 and there were six touchdowns scored.
Click to expand...
I thought I saw that the average game time was actually up in the first weekend.
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Not sure about time, but possessions were down.
 
There's 5 seconds on the playclock on 4th down and they're still pumping music through the loudspeakers. Is that allowed?
 
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