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Tucker suspended w/o pay pending outcome of current on-going further investigation and required formal hearing.

Harlan Barnett to serve as Interim head coach, Dantonio to serve as Asst Head Coach
 
Tucker suspended w/o pay pending outcome of current on-going further investigation and required formal hearing.

Harlan Barnett to serve as Interim head coach, Dantonio to serve as Asst Head Coach

MSU had to act fast after the Nasser scandal. Good job.

No way he can return as HC. They are just going to figure out if they can get out of paying Tucker. Right now it is all about the $$$$
 
Tucker suspended w/o pay pending outcome of current on-going further investigation and required formal hearing.

Harlan Barnett to serve as Interim head coach, Dantonio to serve as Asst Head Coach

MSU had to act fast after the Nasser scandal. Good job.

No way he can return as HC. They are just going to figure out if they can get out of paying Tucker. Right now it is all about the $$$$

I mean, they’ve had the report since July 25. Certainly appears that the reason he was suspended now was because of the USA Today making it public.
 
Tucker suspended w/o pay pending outcome of current on-going further investigation and required formal hearing.

Harlan Barnett to serve as Interim head coach, Dantonio to serve as Asst Head Coach

MSU had to act fast after the Nasser scandal. Good job.

No way he can return as HC. They are just going to figure out if they can get out of paying Tucker. Right now it is all about the $$$$

I mean, they’ve had the report since July 25. Certainly appears that the reason he was suspended now was because of the USA Today making it public.

Reddit seems to think they were just waiting for the title 9 investigation to wrap to have cause but just took the shot now.
 
I'm trying to get my head around this one....

Mel Tucker and MSU brought in rape survivor and sexual assault activist Brenda Tracy to speak with their football program and then, Mel Tucker pursued her romantically by giving her gifts, calling her on the phone and masturbating on those phone calls despite the fact that she said she had no interest in a relationship with him.

Do I have this right? Gawd, just read about what 4 Oregon State football players did to her 20 years ago and that's who Mel Tucker went after? I don't have a word for this level of stupudity.
 
I just don't think Michigan State University is very good at adulting.

MSU problems have always been a dysfunctional board of trustees and presidents.
I'm trying to get my head around this one....

Mel Tucker and MSU brought in rape survivor and sexual assault activist Brenda Tracy to speak with their football program and then, Mel Tucker pursued her romantically by giving her gifts, calling her on the phone and masturbating on those phone calls despite the fact that she said she had no interest in a relationship with him.

Do I have this right? Gawd, just read about what 4 Oregon State football players did to her 20 years ago and that's who Mel Tucker went after? I don't have a word for this level of stupudity.

In a way I feel a little bad for Tucker. I feel bad for his wife and children.

Mel Finally hit it big then blows it over a very mediocre looking women, a women who was abused by football players.

It seems his marriage was in trouble anyway but When you are making 9-10 million a year you pretty much get your pick of the litter. I have to ask why? Makes no sense at all.
 
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I just don't think Michigan State University is very good at adulting.

MSU problems have always been a dysfunctional board of trustees and presidents.
I'm trying to get my head around this one....

Mel Tucker and MSU brought in rape survivor and sexual assault activist Brenda Tracy to speak with their football program and then, Mel Tucker pursued her romantically by giving her gifts, calling her on the phone and masturbating on those phone calls despite the fact that she said she had no interest in a relationship with him.

Do I have this right? Gawd, just read about what 4 Oregon State football players did to her 20 years ago and that's who Mel Tucker went after? I don't have a word for this level of stupudity.

In a way I feel a little bad for Tucker. I feel bad for his wife and children.

Mel Finally hit it big then blows it over a very mediocre looking women, a women who was abused by football players.

It seems his marriage was in trouble anyway but When you are making 9-10 million a year you pretty much get your pick of the litter. I have to ask why? Makes no sense at all.
I don't think you typed this the way you intended to. There's no feeling bad for Tucker in this situation. Absolutely can for his wife and kids.

The part that bothered me though, and again I don't think you meant this, was "blows it over a very mediocre looking" woman, and then the statement further denigrates her by bringing up her past of being gang-raped by football players. The unintentional inference is that someone could understand doing something like what Tucker is accused of to "an attractive woman" without her history.

The last statement really isn't much better to be honest, as it again implies that she isn't worthy of even "good attention" of someone who is rich and powerful.

I really don't think you had ill intention behind the comments but it may be a good reminder for all of us when discussing things.
 
Jeff Lebby (OU offensive coordinator) brought his father-in-law, Art Briles, onto the field with the rest of their family after the SMU game on Saturday. Not a great look Jeff.
 
I just don't think Michigan State University is very good at adulting.

MSU problems have always been a dysfunctional board of trustees and presidents.
I'm trying to get my head around this one....

Mel Tucker and MSU brought in rape survivor and sexual assault activist Brenda Tracy to speak with their football program and then, Mel Tucker pursued her romantically by giving her gifts, calling her on the phone and masturbating on those phone calls despite the fact that she said she had no interest in a relationship with him.

Do I have this right? Gawd, just read about what 4 Oregon State football players did to her 20 years ago and that's who Mel Tucker went after? I don't have a word for this level of stupudity.

In a way I feel a little bad for Tucker. I feel bad for his wife and children.

Mel Finally hit it big then blows it over a very mediocre looking women, a women who was abused by football players.

It seems his marriage was in trouble anyway but When you are making 9-10 million a year you pretty much get your pick of the litter. I have to ask why? Makes no sense at all.
I don't think you typed this the way you intended to. There's no feeling bad for Tucker in this situation. Absolutely can for his wife and kids.

The part that bothered me though, and again I don't think you meant this, was "blows it over a very mediocre looking" woman, and then the statement further denigrates her by bringing up her past of being gang-raped by football players. The unintentional inference is that someone could understand doing something like what Tucker is accused of to "an attractive woman" without her history.

The last statement really isn't much better to be honest, as it again implies that she isn't worthy of even "good attention" of someone who is rich and powerful.

I really don't think you had ill intention behind the comments but it may be a good reminder for all of us when discussing things.

Of course I meant no ill intent at all. I agree it was not the best choice of words.

What I realize from all these scandals is that $$$$$ makes no difference in bad choices. If we are rich or broke poor decision are always made. Bobby Petrino with the volleyball girl on his motorcycle for example cost him his job.
 

I have no idea if he's telling the truth or if Tracy is. Or if they are both telling the truth as they perceive it. But he's pretty specific in that statement with some of the details.

I don't know. Maybe he's getting hosed. Maybe he interpreted their relationship one way and she interpreted it a different way. Hard to say.
 
I have no idea if he's telling the truth or if Tracy is. Or if they are both telling the truth as they perceive it. But he's pretty specific in that statement with some of the details.

I don't know. Maybe he's getting hosed. Maybe he interpreted their relationship one way and she interpreted it a different way. Hard to say.
I like the "but Harbaugh" line he couldn't resist throwing in there. Self awareness clearly isn't his strong suit, so anything is possible as you say.
 

I have no idea if he's telling the truth or if Tracy is. Or if they are both telling the truth as they perceive it. But he's pretty specific in that statement with some of the details.

I don't know. Maybe he's getting hosed. Maybe he interpreted their relationship one way and she interpreted it a different way. Hard to say.

Right now Tuck is just looking for some kind of settlement or buyout.

These things get weird. Bobby Petrino was fired for the motorcycle ride with a female staffer.
 

I have no idea if he's telling the truth or if Tracy is. Or if they are both telling the truth as they perceive it. But he's pretty specific in that statement with some of the details.

I don't know. Maybe he's getting hosed. Maybe he interpreted their relationship one way and she interpreted it a different way. Hard to say.

Right now Tuck is just looking for some kind of settlement or buyout.

These things get weird. Bobby Petrino was fired for the motorcycle ride with a female staffer.

He was fired for lying about it.....
 
Let's pretend everything is 100% true about Tucker....... (which I have doubts) ....... I don't think its a fireable offense. Other than the masturbating and telling her about it which was on a phone call and not a facetime..... I mean I would never consider it but if this isn't MSU is it even newsworthy? idk just seems like an overreaction :shrug:

Side note about the real story
I just don't see how this goes on for so long. I'm really trying not to "victim" blame here but you are disgusted by this man but you keep in contact, you don't hang up the phone during his act.

Just strange all the way around......

And no I don't condone sexual assault before it gets spun that way
 
Let's pretend everything is 100% true about Tucker....... (which I have doubts) ....... I don't think its a fireable offense. Other than the masturbating and telling her about it which was on a phone call and not a facetime..... I mean I would never consider it but if this isn't MSU is it even newsworthy? idk just seems like an overreaction :shrug:

Side note about the real story
I just don't see how this goes on for so long. I'm really trying not to "victim" blame here but you are disgusted by this man but you keep in contact, you don't hang up the phone during his act.

Just strange all the way around......

And no I don't condone sexual assault before it gets spun that way

I don't think you're condoning sexual assault, but you are making excuses for a man who at the very least displayed horrible judgement in romantically pursuing a woman who was paid to speak to his football team about sexual assault. Would you want to pay a man 80 million dollars who, while married, spent his time chasing a woman who is not only an advocate for sexual assault victims but was a victim herself? Of all the women out there in the world, this married man voluntarily chose Brenda Tracy? C'mon man.
 

I have no idea if he's telling the truth or if Tracy is. Or if they are both telling the truth as they perceive it. But he's pretty specific in that statement with some of the details.

I don't know. Maybe he's getting hosed. Maybe he interpreted their relationship one way and she interpreted it a different way. Hard to say.

Right now Tuck is just looking for some kind of settlement or buyout.

These things get weird. Bobby Petrino was fired for the motorcycle ride with a female staffer.

He was fired for lying about it.....



From things I have heard locally Tucker was already wearing his welcome out at MSU and seemed disinterested as the reality was he was not competing with Michigan, OSU and Penn State who are in the same division. Recruiting was not going well and MSUs starting QB and star WR left the team and went to Auburn and FSU. So MSU in reality probably wanted him gone, of course not in this manner but this expedites the process.
 

I have no idea if he's telling the truth or if Tracy is. Or if they are both telling the truth as they perceive it. But he's pretty specific in that statement with some of the details.

I don't know. Maybe he's getting hosed. Maybe he interpreted their relationship one way and she interpreted it a different way. Hard to say.

Right now Tuck is just looking for some kind of settlement or buyout.

These things get weird. Bobby Petrino was fired for the motorcycle ride with a female staffer.

He was fired for lying about it.....



From things I have heard locally Tucker was already wearing his welcome out at MSU and seemed disinterested as the reality was he was not competing with Michigan, OSU and Penn State who are in the same division. Recruiting was not going well and MSUs starting QB and star WR left the team and went to Auburn and FSU. So MSU in reality probably wanted him gone, of course not in this manner but this expedites the process.

Oh, I absolutely think Michigan State regrets giving him all that money (stop listening to that idiot Ishbia for god's sake) and is looking at this as a gift to get out from that insidious contract.
 
Let's pretend everything is 100% true about Tucker....... (which I have doubts) ....... I don't think its a fireable offense. Other than the masturbating and telling her about it which was on a phone call and not a facetime..... I mean I would never consider it but if this isn't MSU is it even newsworthy? idk just seems like an overreaction :shrug:

Side note about the real story
I just don't see how this goes on for so long. I'm really trying not to "victim" blame here but you are disgusted by this man but you keep in contact, you don't hang up the phone during his act.

Just strange all the way around......

And no I don't condone sexual assault before it gets spun that way

I don't think you're condoning sexual assault, but you are making excuses for a man who at the very least displayed horrible judgement in romantically pursuing a woman who was paid to speak to his football team about sexual assault. Would you want to pay a man 80 million dollars who, while married, spent his time chasing a woman who is not only an advocate for sexual assault victims but was a victim herself? Of all the women out there in the world, this married man voluntarily chose Brenda Tracy? C'mon man.
All valid points that I may have skimmed over or forgotten.....
 
Let's pretend everything is 100% true about Tucker....... (which I have doubts) ....... I don't think its a fireable offense. Other than the masturbating and telling her about it which was on a phone call and not a facetime..... I mean I would never consider it but if this isn't MSU is it even newsworthy? idk just seems like an overreaction
I’m sure most recruit’s mothers would find issue.
 
Let's pretend everything is 100% true about Tucker....... (which I have doubts) ....... I don't think its a fireable offense. Other than the masturbating and telling her about it which was on a phone call and not a facetime..... I mean I would never consider it but if this isn't MSU is it even newsworthy? idk just seems like an overreaction :shrug:

Side note about the real story
I just don't see how this goes on for so long. I'm really trying not to "victim" blame here but you are disgusted by this man but you keep in contact, you don't hang up the phone during his act.

Just strange all the way around......

And no I don't condone sexual assault before it gets spun that way

Don't want to get in a fight here but media tends to focus on the single event, where there were many items that led to it
 
Any Cincinnati fans here? I’m coming to town for the OU game on the 23rd. Game is at 11, looking for recommendations on places to go before the game and then after to watch the other games. Planning on going to the Reds game Friday night.
 
Basically I’m just trying to tee someone up for the pm shuke thing but this time it’s an actual suggestion
 
Unreal. How drunk do you have to be to get to that point? Did he think the F word was better than the N word, because it sure felt like he wanted to use both.

I'd like to pile on, but I'm also a season ticket holder at Oregon where the student body was chanting "F THE MORMONS" so.......no leg to stand on. Crowd mentality can be an ugly beast.
 
i bet we dont see another three man defensive front from the badgers this week they did it all first half and it stunk against wash state but they didnt the second half and were much better defensively including a safety that they got ripped off on take that to the bank brohans
 
Unreal. How drunk do you have to be to get to that point? Did he think the F word was better than the N word, because it sure felt like he wanted to use both.

I'd like to pile on, but I'm also a season ticket holder at Oregon where the student body was chanting "F THE MORMONS" so.......no leg to stand on. Crowd mentality can be an ugly beast.
I don't think anybody's fan base is without their morons. I just can't imagine being that angry at a football game.
 
Let's pretend everything is 100% true about Tucker....... (which I have doubts) ....... I don't think its a fireable offense. Other than the masturbating and telling her about it which was on a phone call and not a facetime..... I mean I would never consider it but if this isn't MSU is it even newsworthy? idk just seems like an overreaction :shrug:

Side note about the real story
I just don't see how this goes on for so long. I'm really trying not to "victim" blame here but you are disgusted by this man but you keep in contact, you don't hang up the phone during his act.

Just strange all the way around......

And no I don't condone sexual assault before it gets spun that way

I don't think you're condoning sexual assault, but you are making excuses for a man who at the very least displayed horrible judgement in romantically pursuing a woman who was paid to speak to his football team about sexual assault. Would you want to pay a man 80 million dollars who, while married, spent his time chasing a woman who is not only an advocate for sexual assault victims but was a victim herself? Of all the women out there in the world, this married man voluntarily chose Brenda Tracy? C'mon man.
Also he works for a university that previously employed Larry Nasser so the trustees may be a wee bit sensitive in this area.
 
TW's slate a step back from LW, but a few big rivalry games including the Backyard Brawl:

UTenn -6.5 @ Florida
WVU -2.5 v Pitt
UW -16.5 @ Mich St
Ole Miss -18 v GT
UNC -7.5 v Minnesota
Ark -8 v BYU
Colorado -23 v Colorado St
 
Any Cincinnati fans here? I’m coming to town for the OU game on the 23rd. Game is at 11, looking for recommendations on places to go before the game and then after to watch the other games. Planning on going to the Reds game Friday night.

You should come in a few days early to see...moe.
 
Any Cincinnati fans here? I’m coming to town for the OU game on the 23rd. Game is at 11, looking for recommendations on places to go before the game and then after to watch the other games. Planning on going to the Reds game Friday night.
The game is 11 am? Then I'd suggest Rhinegeist post game. That place was a ton of fun for late afternoon/early evening Saturday football. Can't be more than a mile walk.
 
https://www.espn.com/college-footba...anto-rollins-sues-kiffin-school-mental-health

I'd love to see Ole Miss get screwed here, but in this case, I doesn't seem like Kiffin did anything wrong. Was he a jerk? Sure, but this just screams BS lawsuit from a guy trying to cash in since he was never going to go pro. When did it become legal to record someone without their permission?
Tough subject…Seems like he put a lot more effort in with a recording and a lawyer though than finding help at the school, which I believe is really easy. Instead he just self-diagnosed and avoided everyone?
 
TW's slate a step back from LW, but a few big rivalry games including the Backyard Brawl:

UTenn -6.5 @ Florida
WVU -2.5 v Pitt
UW -16.5 @ Mich St
Ole Miss -18 v GT
UNC -7.5 v Minnesota
Ark -8 v BYU
Colorado -23 v Colorado St
I used the DK boost on Tenn/Tenn 1H/2H ML - bumped up to +120. Yeah, it's the swamp at night, but Florida looked like hot garbage against Utah and that's a continuation of how last season ended. I'm starting to think Napier isn't it.

Speaking of hot garbage, Colorado State...I was leaning towards not betting on Prime for a third straight week given the size of the spread, but after that bulletin board material Norvell put up I teased Colorado up to -26.5 at +125. I thought about just focusing on 1H, but now I think he'll lay it on.

What else does the peanut gallery got?
 
Any Cincinnati fans here? I’m coming to town for the OU game on the 23rd. Game is at 11, looking for recommendations on places to go before the game and then after to watch the other games. Planning on going to the Reds game Friday night.
The game is 11 am? Then I'd suggest Rhinegeist post game. That place was a ton of fun for late afternoon/early evening Saturday football. Can't be more than a mile walk.

Not a walk I'd recommend.
 
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