2023 College football thread - That's A Wrap (9 Viewers)

[The Commish]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

 

[Capella]

will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever

Come on man. He played two games against two elite defenses, lost both and while he ran the ball well against Bama he was overall pretty ok in both. FSU totally dominated them. Best players ever don’t lead teams to 3 losses, they drag a mediocre team to a natty like Cam did. Going for 700 yards against that corpse of a Gators team got him way too much credit.

Penix meanwhile played a tough schedule, went 13-0 while putting up awesome numbers and beat a top-5 team twice. There’s really no argument who was more impactful to the success of their team but one plays in the SEC and one plays out west.

 

[psychobillies]

will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever

Come on man. He played two games against two elite defenses, lost both and while he ran the ball well against Bama he was overall pretty ok in both. FSU totally dominated them. Best players ever don’t lead teams to 3 losses, they drag a mediocre team to a natty like Cam did. Going for 700 yards against that corpse of a Gators team got him way too much credit.

Penix meanwhile played a tough schedule, went 13-0 while putting up awesome numbers and beat a top-5 team twice. There’s really no argument who was more impactful to the success of their team but one plays in the SEC and one plays out west.

You say FSU dominated them. You're talking about LSU, which is a different conversation. JD had over 400 yards against FSU and a 141 QBR. Almost 400 yards against Bama and a 158 QBR, and that includes being knocked out with a cheap shot in the 4th. Now the Heisman committee has a bias against the west coast? Where was that last year when Williams won w 3 losses? What was Penix better at than Daniels? Just show me, please. The numbers weren't even on the same planet. If you just don't like LSU and didn't want him to get it, fine. To say that he didn't deserve it ignores an awful lot. If it's about wins, then it's JJ Mcarthy if its about best player, just go watch.

 

[psychobillies]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

 

[psychobillies]

Serious question for anybody who watched that game last night. Does anyone think Penix has a 140+ QBR and over 400 total yards against either Bama or FSU? He couldn't do it against Oregon or get anywhere close to it against Michigan, so it seems doubtful.

 

[hagmania]

https://x.com/statsbywill/status/1744722099334459771?s=20

Small study group bulletin board material tbh.

Anchor Down!

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

https://x.com/statsbywill/status/1744722099334459771?s=20

Small study group bulletin board material tbh.

Anchor Down!

Yeah, Vandy is going to be so motivated by that dig that next year, they're going to lose to Alabama 63-7 instead of 63-0

 

[Joe Bryant]

https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf...&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=BrettMcMurphy

“Look,” an Alabama official told me at the Rose Bowl last week, “Everyone — and I mean everyone — is stealing signs. Michigan was not the only school doing this.”

Added an industry source: “Kansas (basketball) cheats more than anyone, and they didn’t do anything to Kansas. The only pure thing in college athletics is Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt sucks.”

 

[Joe Bryant]

https://x.com/joelklatt/status/1744771630054900142?s=20

This @UMichFootball team had an avg. recruiting class outside top 10 in last 4 years...Their talent composition was 14th in CFB...They had only two 5* players on the rosterThese facts provide a tremendous boost to whole sport as many will now believe that can also win it all

 

[The Commish]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

I haven't commented on who "deserves" the award. I couldn't care less because of the subjectivity of it all. It's a twisted popularity contest IMO.

 

[The Commish]

Michigan's average for recruiting classes during Harbaugh's tenure is 14. They won't look the same next year as they did this year.

 

[psychobillies]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

I haven't commented on who "deserves" the award. I couldn't care less because of the subjectivity of it all. It's a twisted popularity contest IMO.

So are the playoffs, but I figured that's what we're here to piss and moan about. The subjectivity of it all. I don't actually expect to change hearts and minds, just making the case for my guy.

 

[The Commish]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

I haven't commented on who "deserves" the award. I couldn't care less because of the subjectivity of it all. It's a twisted popularity contest IMO.

So are the playoffs, but I figured that's what we're here to piss and moan about. The subjectivity of it all. I don't actually expect to change hearts and minds, just making the case for my guy.

Don't know what to tell you.....you took exception with the reality that there isn't "A" way of choosing the Heisman winner

 

[3C's]

Jayden Daniels is a very good player but he was neither the best by a large margin this year and nowhere near the best player ever. Not even close.

 

[3C's]

https://x.com/statsbywill/status/1744722099334459771?s=20

"Could be his last coaching game for all I know, or he can coach somewhere overseas"

Jim Harbaugh becomes the real life Ted Lasso!

 

[psychobillies]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

I haven't commented on who "deserves" the award. I couldn't care less because of the subjectivity of it all. It's a twisted popularity contest IMO.

So are the playoffs, but I figured that's what we're here to piss and moan about. The subjectivity of it all. I don't actually expect to change hearts and minds, just making the case for my guy.

Don't know what to tell you.....you took exception with the reality that there isn't "A" way of choosing the Heisman winner

I'm honestly not understanding where you're coming from. There is "A" way. It's the same every year. A group of guys get together and decide who they think is the best player. It's subjective, but the criteria is the same. They give it to the person that they think is the best player. It's based on how good they think the player is. Not how many games the team won. When has it been done differently?

 

[tri-man 47]

Interesting factoid that I saw: Michigan beat five, top-twenty teams in their last six games …and beat the spread in all of them.

 

[The Commish]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

I haven't commented on who "deserves" the award. I couldn't care less because of the subjectivity of it all. It's a twisted popularity contest IMO.

So are the playoffs, but I figured that's what we're here to piss and moan about. The subjectivity of it all. I don't actually expect to change hearts and minds, just making the case for my guy.

Don't know what to tell you.....you took exception with the reality that there isn't "A" way of choosing the Heisman winner

I'm honestly not understanding where you're coming from. There is "A" way. It's the same every year. A group of guys get together and decide who they think is the best player. It's subjective, but the criteria is the same. They give it to the person that they think is the best player. It's based on how good they think the player is. Not how many games the team won. When has it been done differently?

You're saying the "criteria" here is "best player" and that "best player" is THE way, then saying that "best player" is subjective. The GOAL, allegedly, is "best player". The "criteria" is completely subjective and can change every single year resulting in many, many, many, many different ways they choose their winner over the years. Everything looks the same if you pull perspective up high enough, but doing so leads to a dishonest view IMO.

 

[psychobillies]

There isn't "A" way the Heisman works....the criteria are entirely subjective and change from one year to the next.

Sure there is. It's for the best player in the country. Sometimes that player is on one of the best teams, sometimes he's not. Caleb Williams, Lamar Jackson, Manziel, RG3. It happens quite often. Daniels wasn't just the best player, he was the best player by a large margin. I will also argue that him winning 10 games this year against that schedule and with the 130th or so ranked defense should put him in the conversation for one of the best players ever. Of course none of that matters, but anyone saying it should not have been Daniels didn't watch him play enough.

Dont really know if this is satire or not but proves my point very well.

I must be missing your point then. Of course it's subjective. It's a group of people making a judgement call, but the criteria as far as I understand it, is that the Heisman goes to the best player in college football. This was probably one of the easiest decisions they've ever made. Penix wasn't even really in the frontrunner conversation until the PAC12 championship. It was Nix vs JD before that game.

I hope I'm not coming off as sarcastic with you and Capella, I'm truly baffled that anyone thinks Penix was better than JD. He just flat wasn't, and there's nothing that I've seen that suggests that he was.

I haven't commented on who "deserves" the award. I couldn't care less because of the subjectivity of it all. It's a twisted popularity contest IMO.

So are the playoffs, but I figured that's what we're here to piss and moan about. The subjectivity of it all. I don't actually expect to change hearts and minds, just making the case for my guy.

Don't know what to tell you.....you took exception with the reality that there isn't "A" way of choosing the Heisman winner

I'm honestly not understanding where you're coming from. There is "A" way. It's the same every year. A group of guys get together and decide who they think is the best player. It's subjective, but the criteria is the same. They give it to the person that they think is the best player. It's based on how good they think the player is. Not how many games the team won. When has it been done differently?

You're saying the "criteria" here is "best player" and that "best player" is THE way, then saying that "best player" is subjective. The GOAL, allegedly, is "best player". The "criteria" is completely subjective and can change every single year resulting in many, many, many, many different ways they choose their winner over the years. Everything looks the same if you pull perspective up high enough, but doing so leads to a dishonest view IMO.

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

 

[The Commish]

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

 

[psychobillies]

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

 

[Schmeabs]

Both those teams gonna look way different next year.

Yep. Deboer is a horrible recruiter and

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

Nix would have won if Oregon won the Pac 12 championship game. Let's not act like Daniels was a shoe in.

 

[The Commish]

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

Then we aren't saying anything all that different. I'd just point out that "the way" implies they determine/decide with the same criteria one way all the time (objective) and that does not happen. They have multiple different ways (subjective) they determine this award recipient and it (the way) changes from one year to the next which is what I mean when I say there isn't "A" way they make this determination.

 

[The Commish]

Farewell to Another College Football Season

It's an understandably emotional time for the college football as we lay to rest another season. Michigan wears the crown for the first time since 1997, Alab...

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[Da Guru]

Michigan's average for recruiting classes during Harbaugh's tenure is 14. They won't look the same next year as they did this year.

Michigan should have a top 5-10 class every year. But the good and bad that comes with Harbaugh is that he is a great coach, put together a great staff. But every off season he flirts with the NFL. That turns off some players who want to know who their HC will be going forward.

Of course the way it is going now the recruiting class is not nearly as important as it was. Teams can recruit 4-5 Stat players and they can leave after one season, or now in season.

 

[psychobillies]

Both those teams gonna look way different next year.

Yep. Deboer is a horrible recruiter and

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

Nix would have won if Oregon won the Pac 12 championship game. Let's not act like Daniels was a shoe in.

You on the committee?

 

[psychobillies]

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

Then we aren't saying anything all that different. I'd just point out that "the way" implies they determine/decide with the same criteria one way all the time (objective) and that does not happen. They have multiple different ways (subjective) they determine this award recipient and it (the way) changes from one year to the next which is what I mean when I say there isn't "A" way they make this determination.

OK, you're right. I don't think we're disagreeing all that much, and this is more semantics than anything. Maybe their process of determining it amongst themselves is different because each season is different, but their stated goal is to determine the best player in each individual season. Not to pick best player on a team that has a certain amount of wins. It's never has been that way. I only brought it up to refute someone posting that Daniels didn't qualify because LSU only won 10 games and UW was undefeated.

 

[Schmeabs]

Both those teams gonna look way different next year.

Yep. Deboer is a horrible recruiter and

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

Nix would have won if Oregon won the Pac 12 championship game. Let's not act like Daniels was a shoe in.

You on the committee?

Vegas odds had Nix as heavy favorite

 

[Stoneworker]

Priceless quote from Blake Corum on the Rich Eisen show.

Q: What's your response to people who say your accomplishments are "asterisk worthy?" How do you handle that?

A: You know, those are most likely just people that have nothing else better to do in life than hate.

 

[psychobillies]

Both those teams gonna look way different next year.

Yep. Deboer is a horrible recruiter and

That's not what I'm saying. Why are you adding things to the stuff I actually typed?

So which part aren't you saying? "best player" = subjective or "the way" = "best player"?

"The way" = subjective. It's just a group of guys deciding who THEY THINK the best player is. That's all the Heisman is. It's their opinion. Anybody is free to disagree.
I'm not sure where we got off track. My only point, I guess, is that it should have been one of the easier decisions that they've had to make. JD's statistics were just too much to ignore, so they didn't.

Nix would have won if Oregon won the Pac 12 championship game. Let's not act like Daniels was a shoe in.

You on the committee?

Vegas odds had Nix as heavy favorite

What does that have to do with anything? I'm sure you know how Vegas works, so I'm not sure why you think that matters.

 

[The Commish]

Michigan's average for recruiting classes during Harbaugh's tenure is 14. They won't look the same next year as they did this year.

Michigan should have a top 5-10 class every year. But the good and bad that comes with Harbaugh is that he is a great coach, put together a great staff. But every off season he flirts with the NFL. That turns off some players who want to know who their HC will be going forward.

Of course the way it is going now the recruiting class is not nearly as important as it was. Teams can recruit 4-5 Stat players and they can leave after one season, or now in season.

I don't think they've ever had this though. I know during the time I kept up with the thread here, they didn't. They'd have 9-10 four stars and the rest 3 stars. I can't remember a time where they were "reload" instead of "rebuild".

 

[The Commish]

@culdeus - Michigan won the national title. Hope you aren’t too busy today that you can’t see this. It’s also on the news and stuff.

Thanks for the update

A spoiler alert would have been nice.

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/big-ten/michigan-washington-college-football-playoff-national-championship-game-draws-biggest-ratings-four-years-espn-big-ten-pac-12

 

[The Commish]

Interesting factoid that I saw: Michigan beat five, top-twenty teams in their last six games …and beat the spread in all of them.

And a #1 seed hadn't ever beaten a #2 seed in the playoff.

 

[General Malaise]

28 million viewers with nothing better to do on a Monday night in January. 28 million people who covet the jet setting lifestyle of famed Playboy and man of intrigue.....Culdeous.

 

[massraider]

Chris Low

@ClowESPN

Nick Saban is retiring, sources tell ESPN. He won six national titles at Alabama.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Wow… that’s BIG news.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Can't imagine they'll find anyone willing to coach that crappy team

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Tuscaloosa?

 

[General Malaise]

Can't imagine they'll find anyone willing to coach that crappy team

Just hope Dan Lanning takes me with him.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Can't imagine they'll find anyone willing to coach that crappy team

Just hope Dan Lanning takes me with him.

Why everybody got to put that out into the universe?

Here we go again......

 

[-OZ-]

First they came for Mike Vrabel and we did nothing. Now they came for Nick Saban (I know, not the same)
Tough times for an Alabamian Titan

 

[Capella]

Brett Mcmurphy saying it’ll be Lanning. Sorry GM and Oregon guys

 

[SFBayDuck]

Brett Mcmurphy saying it’ll be Lanning. Sorry GM and Oregon guys

McMurphy says he's "expected to be top target". That's a little different.

 

[SFBayDuck]

But after the carousel we've been through here in Eugene the past few years, I'm mentally preparing for the worst.

 

[Schmeabs]

Brett Mcmurphy saying it’ll be Lanning. Sorry GM and Oregon guys

Good. He is always wrong.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Thamel reported James Franklin as a name. lol

 

[Capella]

Brett Mcmurphy saying it’ll be Lanning. Sorry GM and Oregon guys

McMurphy says he's "expected to be top target". That's a little different.

He had fsu out of the playoff 90 minutes before the show started. Guy has good sources. But yes I suppose you are right.

 

[Capella]

Brett Mcmurphy saying it’ll be Lanning. Sorry GM and Oregon guys

Good. He is always wrong.

I feel like he’s the one who’s always right actually.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Nick Saban is retiring

Losing to Jim Harbough broke the poor guy. Well he still has those AFLAC commercials with the duck to fall back on.

 

[General Malaise]

Can't imagine they'll find anyone willing to coach that crappy team

Just hope Dan Lanning takes me with him.

Why everybody got to put that out into the universe?

Here we go again......

You see him on TV? He ain't long for Eugene. He has star written all over him.