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Oh, brother. Out of this group the only one that would get me even a little excited would be Monken - so I guess I’m pulling for him.
agreed - I know hes had his issues but Rodgers is also showing he is not an easy person to work with either....I think he can pull an Andy Reid and reinvent himself with a young QB....with no Harbaugh in the picture he's my #1` choice by far!
McCarthy would be a great fit for team with a young QB. I think many of McCarthy's problems in GB stemmed from Rodgers. They have a fairly young team and when Rodgers stands up at his press conference and questions the play calling of McCarthy the young players see that and it erodes confidence in the head coach. Rodgers has an incredibly large ego and not having to deal with that would be refreshing for McCarthy.
Interesting - definitely not my 1st choice but he does check some boxes - Im not going to hold a record at Texas Tech against him....
Agreed, but not on board with Gase. It seemed like the modern day offense was passing GB by the last few years and their offense got stale.
He did get it done with Rodgers - they won a Super Bowl.....thats one step farther than Andy Reid who I am comparing him to....Rodgers is a known prima donna who has difficult personality....I think coexisting for that long with him is a positive.....after so many yrs a new location is sometimes needed.....He has proven much more than Gase who had an open mutiny in his first job without winning anything. Established head coach...winning program...Super Bowl winner....offensive minded....still relatively young....worked with top QB...checks too many boxes for me to not have him as the best pick......not that he doesnt have any warts...would really want to see some good coordinators come on board to work with him....
He hasn't gotten it done with Rodgers? This season Rodgers looked terrible and was injured. Otherwise he has a 61% winning percentage (which includes multiple times Rodgers was out injured) and has been in the playoffs 9 times since 2006, including multiple NFC Championship Game appearances and a Super Bowl win.
I'm of the opinion any half-wit could've won a single championship with Rodgers as their QB. In 13 seasons in GB (12 if we give him a mulligan for 2017), he only made it to a single super bowl. It's not like he got them there multiple times and only came away with one, he was fortunate that his only appearance was against Kaepernick.
understand - we'll agree to disagree - winning a super bowl is never easy....Don Shula had Marino and never won one....Payton is a good coach and has only one with Brees and I'd love to have him....Holmgrem only one one with Favre.....list goes on...after 50 yrs Ill take "just one" Super Bowl with Sam even if he becomes a top 3 QB....just want to see one in my lifetime! Anything else is gravy!
There are always exceptions. I mean, Coughlin won two with Eli, so really anything can happen, but winning one super bowl after a decade with the best QB in the league is hardly a feather in your cap, you know?
That's a very lazy way to look at things. Was Don Shula a bad coach because he never won a Super Bowl with Dan Marino? Don Coryell? Marv Levy?
It's just as lazy as giving the guy a pass solely because he won a single championship after 13 years of Favre/Rodgers. And when I said he's won a single championship, I meant super bowl. Sorry for the lack of clarity. I was aware of his number of NFC championship games, but again, he's 1-3 in those games and luckily 1-0 against Kaepernick in the SB.
No one specifically, but I was implying it was people who think he's a good coach.
I'm starting to come around to Gase as my second choice for the job. My two biggest wants in a candidate are 1. offensive minded and 2. experienced. Gase is another guy that has a few warts but I do think he mostly overachieved with a Miami team that did not have much talent on either side of the ball (and especially at QB).
Adams is more than just a nice player. He will get votes for the various all-pro teams. He might be named to the 1st team of the Associated Press one. That is the one that the yokels think is the one and only official all-pro team.
Hey, I'm no expert and I know Adams grades out well, but I saw many a play when he ran by action and seemed out of position. He didn't impact many games either. He is 9-23 in 2 years. I know he's a SS, but 1 pick in 32 games needs to be improved. I'm tough on these guys and I just am not enthused when you play on a D that gave up 30-40 points easy per game. I just don't want us overvaluing guys ala Mo Wilkerson. I mean, I don't know what to make of Leonard Williams, but if you don't get to the QB, then you cant get paid. I think a lot of Jet issues stem from an absolutely hideous LB group. They don't cover, rush or tackle. Let Lee go, sign another FA like Williamson and draft an edge guy. Allen looks great, but man, Kentucky guys spook me after the Dwayne Robertson fiasco. I just am very tainted and wary after so many years of futility. In 60 years I think this team has played 6 home playoff games in total. They need to get Maye on the field and find a coach that can get effort out of Claiborne and Johnson. Needs here are RB, WR, Edge, LB and secondary. Basically the whole team. Here is a big question, 2019 sees Williams jump to $14mill on his 5th year option. Either negotiate or cut him. You cant pay him 14mill in 2019. I'd rather the cap space.
I think this is a well thought out post, that makes a lot of good points even though I do not agree with some of the them.
Yeah, I understand at some point some head coach will probably win a Super Bowl with two different teams. It does seem though that head coaches lose some of their drive and fire with a second team after they won somewhere else. It is impossible to measure that. Other than a guy admitting it in a biography years later, we can never be sure of it. At least we can look at results and see that many had worse W-L-T records later.
I would be onboard for Arians as well but I don’t think he’ll consider the job not only because the team fired Bowles but also because he would likely want Bowles as his DC wherever he lands and I’m just not sure that could fly here. I’d honestly be ok with it as Bowles was a good DC when that’s all he needed to concentrate on, but I just don’t think it works optically.
The new head coach will spend extensive time in the film room figuring out what the deal is with Williams. There could have been something scheme-wise that was not conducive to Williams making more splash plays. I don't know what to think of him. I was critical of Wilkerson even when he was at his best in 2013. To me, it was noticeable that Wilkerson would take plays off. He did not have the same drive and determination on every play. On a Jets-centric message board, I got ripped for those comments in 2013. I told people watch what happens if/when Wilkerson gets a huge contract.
I think that makes the most sense too, but until Arians signs elsewhere or the Jets hire someone else, I'll still hold out some hope.
Looks like he’s likely headed to Tampa Bay.Fariq said:
Agreed the #3 is way too high a price....odds are Harbaugh is extended but if he is available I would look into a trade unless McCarthy is available....maybe they would take one of their 3rds...have a feeling it will take more from past precedent...
I feel the same way. I wouldn't trade any significant picks for Harbaugh (and I would finally jump ship if they traded the 3rd overall pick for him).
I read that Harbaugh and the Ravens are progressing on an agreement, so probably a moot point anyway.
