2023 NFL MVP race (1 Viewer)

[crushedspirit]

In my opinion the MVP has to go to the guy who lifts his team when needed most as well as the stats to go with it, and for that Hurts is the easy front runner. Add the fact of the level of competition he is facing, and it becomes even easier to see him leading the race.

 

[BassNBrew]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

 

[need2know]

i think winning has as much to do with it as stats

 

[WaltonGoggins]

In my opinion the MVP has to go to the guy who lifts his team when needed most as well as the stats to go with it, and for that Hurts is the easy front runner. Add the fact of the level of competition he is facing, and it becomes even easier to see him leading the race.

Then he won’t win it according to you. He lost to Zach Wilson easily one of the all time worst QB in NFL history.

 

[-OZ-]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

Jets >>>> panthers.
But yeah, this isn’t a strong argument

 

[WaltonGoggins]

i think winning has as much to do with it as stats

Yes usually not going to win it with a losing record.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

Jets >>>> panthers.
But yeah, this isn’t a strong argument

I’d argue can’t get any lower than losing to Zach Wilson but either way the “lost to a bad team” argument never made sense since it’s never used as a reason to exclude someone. Until that happens doesn’t matter.

 

[need2know]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

Jets >>>> panthers.
But yeah, this isn’t a strong argument

I’d argue can’t get any lower than losing to Zach Wilson but either way the “lost to a bad team” argument never made sense since it’s never used as a reason to exclude someone. Until that happens doesn’t matter.

He lost to the jets defense. Which at the time was still pretty dominate. Made mahomes, allen and hurts look bad.
Wilson had nothing to do with it

 

[-OZ-]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

Jets >>>> panthers.
But yeah, this isn’t a strong argument

I’d argue can’t get any lower than losing to Zach Wilson but either way the “lost to a bad team” argument never made sense since it’s never used as a reason to exclude someone. Until that happens doesn’t matter.

Considering Mahomes lost to Matt Ryan and Frank Reich last year, it clearly doesn’t matter.

 

[Anarchy99]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

Leading the league in passing yards really hasn't made much difference in garnering MVP consideration. Usually, it means you threw the ball a ton. Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston, and even Matt Schaub led the league in passing yards. Drew Brees led the league in passing 7 times and never won MVP.

The Texans already have 5 losses. Based on the NFL's league-wide standings, Houston is the #13 team in the league and 8th in the AFC. The team would have to end up with a significantly better record and seeding for Stroud to have any chance at all.

Even if we say Houston runs the table and wins out (6 games left), they'd still have 5 losses. Since the league went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only 4 QBs have won MVP with 5 losses . . . Matt Ryan in 2016, Rich Gannon in 2002, Brett Favre in 1995, and Brian Sipe in 1980. In those seasons, there really wasn't a dominant team record wise. (In 2016, the Patriots qualified but that was the year Brady was suspended.)

Stroud would need to have a record-breaking season to overcome that . . . like 5475/56. He's currently on pace for 5047/29. No doubt he's having a phenomenal rookie season, but I just don't see him getting serious consideration for MVP by the time the season's done. Draft Kings has him as the 8th highest player at +2000 (Hurts is leading at +140).

 

[crushedspirit]

In my opinion the MVP has to go to the guy who lifts his team when needed most as well as the stats to go with it, and for that Hurts is the easy front runner. Add the fact of the level of competition he is facing, and it becomes even easier to see him leading the race.

Then he won’t win it according to you. He lost to Zach Wilson easily one of the all time worst QB in NFL history.

What are you even going on about?

Hurts made huge plays to beat teams like Mia, Dal, KC, and Buf in 4 of the last 5 wins. That's what I was talking about. Why you highlighting their only loss like it's a gotcha moment?

CJ has been great for sure, but 5 losses is way too much to even be considered at this point. The level of competition Phi has beaten is another huge swing in Hurts favor.

 

[kface]

Doesn't feel like there is a legit MVP this year honestly

Dart throw and that doesn't seem appropriate

 

[Snotbubbles]

Doesn't feel like there is a legit MVP this year honestly

Dart throw and that doesn't seem appropriate

I surprised at the Hurts love, I don't think he's been as good this season as he was last season.

 

[FarFromHome]

Doesn't feel like there is a legit MVP this year honestly

Dart throw and that doesn't seem appropriate

I surprised at the Hurts love, I don't think he's been as good this season as he was last season.

I know his 4th quarter numbers are making its way around the media. Don't know if he will get the MVP, but his 4th quarter numbers are definitely MVP worthy. I think after last week he has the lead, but barely. Lots of season left and this one will go down to the wire. Imo

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Stroud is out of the running due to the Texans not being a complete team yet. Individually his accomplishments should have him in the running but it's still not even a lock the Texans make the playoffs as losing against JAX probably cost them the division.

Hurts to lose now. Dak may have a shot if they beat Philly in week 14 and can finish strong against some remaining tough opponents. Mahomes has a pretty easy schedule remaining, maybe if the Chiefs can unlock some offense and their WR's catch passes again he can have a strong back half surge to at least make it interesting (my fantasy teams with him could certainly use it!)

Nah Texans are complete enough plus MVP isn’t based off that and Jags barely beat them while Texans blew them out. Agree if they make the playoffs then agree he’s in it even more. Hurts will have double digit turnovers by end of year easily. He’s an int machine 500 less passing yards and inferior statistically. He could get it more since he should have won it last year. Unlike Stroud he’s not the main reason for their record. As a QB he’s not better than Stroud so far this year. Ditto with Dak. That said won’t be surprised if MVP goes to one of them but not because they are the actual MVP.

He has zero chance if the Texans don't make the playoffs, the winner is the QB on a playoff team with the best record like 9 times out of 10.

Agree it’s not really MVP anymore it’s the MVP who gets into postseason.

In my opinion the MVP has to go to the guy who lifts his team when needed most as well as the stats to go with it, and for that Hurts is the easy front runner. Add the fact of the level of competition he is facing, and it becomes even easier to see him leading the race.

Then he won’t win it according to you. He lost to Zach Wilson easily one of the all time worst QB in NFL history.

What are you even going on about?

Hurts made huge plays to beat teams like Mia, Dal, KC, and Buf in 4 of the last 5 wins. That's what I was talking about. Why you highlighting their only loss like it's a gotcha moment?

CJ has been great for sure, but 5 losses is way too much to even be considered at this point. The level of competition Phi has beaten is another huge swing in Hurts favor.

Hurts has loads of talent and his stats inferior to Stroud. Buffalo isn’t that great and Miami hasn’t beaten a winning team in forever. KC isn’t the KC of old. 5 losses in most years I agree would disqualify you but they still have a great chance making the postseason and a rookie breaking all time rookie qb on a weekly basis with most passing yards and highest passing yards per game with crazy TD to INT ratio can’t be ignored. Hurts hasn’t wowed anyone this season plus has elite talent at WR and RB and way better defense. His numbers are fine but not MVP. That said could see them giving it to him simply because if they finish with best record.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Doesn't feel like there is a legit MVP this year honestly

Dart throw and that doesn't seem appropriate

I surprised at the Hurts love, I don't think he's been as good this season as he was last season.

Agree probably coming from eagles fans.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Doesn't feel like there is a legit MVP this year honestly

Dart throw and that doesn't seem appropriate

I surprised at the Hurts love, I don't think he's been as good this season as he was last season.

Okay, but he is not competing with 2022 Jalen Hurts; he is competing with other players from 2023, and as has been established, there are no major standouts this year at the QB position for MVP.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

Leading the league in passing yards really hasn't made much difference in garnering MVP consideration. Usually, it means you threw the ball a ton. Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston, and even Matt Schaub led the league in passing yards. Drew Brees led the league in passing 7 times and never won MVP.

The Texans already have 5 losses. Based on the NFL's league-wide standings, Houston is the #13 team in the league and 8th in the AFC. The team would have to end up with a significantly better record and seeding for Stroud to have any chance at all.

Even if we say Houston runs the table and wins out (6 games left), they'd still have 5 losses. Since the league went to a 16-game schedule in 1978, only 4 QBs have won MVP with 5 losses . . . Matt Ryan in 2016, Rich Gannon in 2002, Brett Favre in 1995, and Brian Sipe in 1980. In those seasons, there really wasn't a dominant team record wise. (In 2016, the Patriots qualified but that was the year Brady was suspended.)

Stroud would need to have a record-breaking season to overcome that . . . like 5475/56. He's currently on pace for 5047/29. No doubt he's having a phenomenal rookie season, but I just don't see him getting serious consideration for MVP by the time the season's done. Draft Kings has him as the 8th highest player at +2000 (Hurts is leading at +140).

Leading the league in passing and passing yards per game and lowest TD INT by a rookie and breaks weekly rookie records. Can’t compare to the players you mentioned. If they make the postseason where every expert predicted them to be worst or second worst team and they have little talent yes he’s legit MVP. Watson and Shaub not comparable they weren’t rookies for starters plus they had studs. The fact he has odds that were +20000 just a month or so ago to now is more telling. No one has made that much of an extreme leap in odds.

 

[BassNBrew]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

It was a tongue in cheek post but illustrates that Houston has lost too many games for Stroud to be in the running. He's be awesome this year but just not awesome enough to elevate his team among the elites. Also if Hurts doesn't lose to the Jets and Philly is undefeated right now, then we aren't even having a discussion about who is the front runner.

 

[jobarules]

Purdy leads the lead in completion %, Y/A, and QB rating. If the 49ers beat the Eagles in Philly he will jump up in odds.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

It was a tongue in cheek post but illustrates that Houston has lost too many games for Stroud to be in the running. He's be awesome this year but just not awesome enough to elevate his team among the elites. Also if Hurts doesn't lose to the Jets and Philly is undefeated right now, then we aren't even having a discussion about who is the front runner.

You should watch some Texans games first if you had you’d know most of their losses weren’t because of Stroud he put them in the lead it’s their awful defense.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Stroud Offensive Player of the Month. Getting awards and breaking all time records on weekly basis.
C.J. Stroud is just the 2nd rookie QB in NFL lore to win AFC Offensive P.O.M. & just the 5th player ever to earn NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month in the same month.

Breaking numerous records, he ranked 1st in AFC in nearly every passing category, leading the team to a 3-1 mark for the month.

 

[-jb-]

Hurts feels like a strange choice to me. The main (only?) case for him is that he's the QB for the team with the best record. He was better in 2022, and I would also argue AJ Brown is more deserving just on the Eagles.

You still feel this way? Wins over Bills and Chiefs, AJ has a combined 6/45/1. Meanwhile Hurts has 7 TDs.

How many TDs does Stroud have? Speaking of which another record broken first QB ever to throw for over 300 yards 4 games in a row. Never been done history of the NFL.

Maybe that's a rookie stat? Brees did it twice in a single season, and also has a string of seven in a row.

 

[FarFromHome]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

 

[need2know]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

 

[FarFromHome]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

Then it's an open race. I feel he controls his destiny here. The ball is in his court for the award. All my opinion. For the record, I want Tyreek to shock the world with an epic finish to win it.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

 

[fred_1_15301]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

Then it's an open race. I feel he controls his destiny here. The ball is in his court for the award. All my opinion. For the record, I want Tyreek to shock the world with an epic finish to win it.

A wide receiver has never won the award. Hill isn't winning it.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

Then it's an open race. I feel he controls his destiny here. The ball is in his court for the award. All my opinion. For the record, I want Tyreek to shock the world with an epic finish to win it.

A wide receiver has never won the award. Hill isn't winning it.

This would be a good year to change that.

 

[FarFromHome]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

Then it's an open race. I feel he controls his destiny here. The ball is in his court for the award. All my opinion. For the record, I want Tyreek to shock the world with an epic finish to win it.

A wide receiver has never won the award. Hill isn't winning it.

I get it. Whenever a non QB is mentioned it triggers this response. I also agree with it. I can agree with it and hope for something else.

 

[The Duff Man]

Stroud on his way to having most passing yards best TD/INT highest average per pass and yards per game. No other QB has played like Stroud so far this season. Only reason he won’t win it is because he’s a rookie even though he’s clearly MVP.

If you lose to Bryce Young and are the only team to lose to the Panthers you are automatically disqualified from the award.

Hurts is so much better than anyone else he can spot the opponents and some fumbles to keep games interesting.

Fine I’ll play that silly game. Hurts lost to Zach Wilson. Can’t get worse than that. He’s a turn over machine unlike Stroud who is blowing him away in most stats with 1/10th the talent.
FYI: MVP never based on your metric prior nor will it ever.

It was a tongue in cheek post but illustrates that Houston has lost too many games for Stroud to be in the running. He's be awesome this year but just not awesome enough to elevate his team among the elites. Also if Hurts doesn't lose to the Jets and Philly is undefeated right now, then we aren't even having a discussion about who is the front runner.

You should watch some Texans games first if you had you’d know most of their losses weren’t because of Stroud he put them in the lead it’s their awful defense.

Josh Allen wants to use this argument also

 

[TommyKramer9]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

Then it's an open race. I feel he controls his destiny here. The ball is in his court for the award. All my opinion. For the record, I want Tyreek to shock the world with an epic finish to win it.

A wide receiver has never won the award. Hill isn't winning it.

False! Jerry Rice won the award in 87

 

[BassNBrew]

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[jobarules]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

Beat a good team and then maybe

 

[Anarchy99]

In my opinion. If Hurts beats Niners then Cowboys the next two weeks it's his no matter what others do.

what if he splits? cause thats probably whats going to happen

Then it's an open race. I feel he controls his destiny here. The ball is in his court for the award. All my opinion. For the record, I want Tyreek to shock the world with an epic finish to win it.

A wide receiver has never won the award. Hill isn't winning it.

False! Jerry Rice won the award in 87

The officially recognized NFL MVP Award is voted on by the Associated Press. In 1987, John Elway won and Rice finished second in the AP balloting. Rice won the Pro Football Writers Association MVP in 1987, but that is not considered the official league MVP.

 

[Ghost Rider]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

Beat a good team and then maybe

How good any of us think Seattle is notwithstanding, last night's game shows a flaw in the "they can't beat a team with a winning record" narrative.

Had Dallas lost, Seattle would be 7-5 and people would say, "see, Dallas played a team that currently has a winning record and lost," but because Dallas won, Seattle is 6-6 and thus Dallas still does not have a win over a team with a winning record.

 

[jobarules]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

Beat a good team and then maybe

How good any of us think Seattle is notwithstanding, last night's game shows a flaw in the "they can't beat a team with a winning record" narrative.

Had Dallas lost, Seattle would be 7-5 and people would say, "see, Dallas played a team that currently has a winning record and lost," but because Dallas won, Seattle is 6-6 and thus Dallas still does not have a win over a team with a winning record.

Are we really using that game as a point for dallas? Theyalmost lost to a team that has looked dreadful for weeks.

I said beat a good team. Seattle is not a good team.

 

[Kuz]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

Beat a good team and then maybe

How good any of us think Seattle is notwithstanding, last night's game shows a flaw in the "they can't beat a team with a winning record" narrative.

Had Dallas lost, Seattle would be 7-5 and people would say, "see, Dallas played a team that currently has a winning record and lost," but because Dallas won, Seattle is 6-6 and thus Dallas still does not have a win over a team with a winningrecord.

Are we really using that game as a point for dallas? Theyalmost lost to a team that has looked dreadful for weeks.

I said beat a good team. Seattle is not a good team.

Next Sunday night should be a fun test.. That should be a great game..

 

[Ghost Rider]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

Beat a good team and then maybe

How good any of us think Seattle is notwithstanding, last night's game shows a flaw in the "they can't beat a team with a winning record" narrative.

Had Dallas lost, Seattle would be 7-5 and people would say, "see, Dallas played a team that currently has a winning record and lost," but because Dallas won, Seattle is 6-6 and thus Dallas still does not have a win over a team with a winning record.

Are we really using that game as a point for dallas? Theyalmost lost to a team that has looked dreadful for weeks.

I said beat a good team. Seattle is not a good team.

It was to illustrate a point.

 

[rockaction]

I said beat a good team. Seattle is not a good team.

They're a fine squad. They're #7 right now and a playoff team.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

This hurts me to say because I have forever said the guys sucks... Dak Prescott should be in consideration. 3rd in passing yards. Over 70% completions. 108 QB Rating. #1 ranked in QBR. Team is 9-3.

Beat a good team and then maybe

Such a boring narrative Something for the media to talk about. I hate DAL. HATE them. Yet they are a good team. Every NFL team has good players lining up on the other side. They aren't beating up on Southwest Louisiana like LSU is.

I guess we should take away all Brady's MVPs since he played in the crappiest division of all time.

 

[rockaction]

Dak is number one in EPA and in QBR. He passes the eye test and his team is 9-3. He didn't throw four picks on the way to a loss and hasn't turned the ball over like Hurts. Gotta go Dak here. Hurts is so last year. Dak's just been better. Keeps a foot inbounds or doesn't get Refereeagled and we're talking Dallas is 10-2 and Philly 9-2.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

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He and Tua will cancel each other out.

 

[Deamon]

Dak is number one in EPA and in QBR. He passes the eye test and his team is 9-3. He didn't throw four picks on the way to a loss and hasn't turned the ball over like Hurts. Gotta go Dak here. Hurts is so last year. Dak's just been better. Keeps a foot inbounds or doesn't get Refereeagled and we're talking Dallas is 10-2 and Philly 9-2.

Pretty horrible take here.

Playing the "if he didn't do this, they'd be have this record" card is bad enough, but Hurts also didn't throw 4 picks in the game.

The award is Hurts' to lose whether you like it or not.

 

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[Deamon]

Hill making a great case today to come 3rd in MVP voting this year.

 

[renesauz]

Dak is number one in EPA and in QBR. He passes the eye test and his team is 9-3. He didn't throw four picks on the way to a loss and hasn't turned the ball over like Hurts. Gotta go Dak here. Hurts is so last year. Dak's just been better. Keeps a foot inbounds or doesn't get Refereeagled and we're talking Dallas is 10-2 and Philly 9-2.

Ranking them today I have Hurts a hair over Dak....but only by a hair. And Purdy only a smidge behind Dak.

Nobody is running away with this, but those three are the only ones in serious contention right now

 

[WaltonGoggins]

Dak is number one in EPA and in QBR. He passes the eye test and his team is 9-3. He didn't throw four picks on the way to a loss and hasn't turned the ball over like Hurts. Gotta go Dak here. Hurts is so last year. Dak's just been better. Keeps a foot inbounds or doesn't get Refereeagled and we're talking Dallas is 10-2 and Philly 9-2.

Ranking them today I have Hurts a hair over Dak....but only by a hair. And Purdy only a smidge behind Dak.

Nobody is running away with this, but those three are the only ones in serious contention right now

No one knows at this point all guesswork.

 

[renesauz]

Dak is number one in EPA and in QBR. He passes the eye test and his team is 9-3. He didn't throw four picks on the way to a loss and hasn't turned the ball over like Hurts. Gotta go Dak here. Hurts is so last year. Dak's just been better. Keeps a foot inbounds or doesn't get Refereeagled and we're talking Dallas is 10-2 and Philly 9-2.

Ranking them today I have Hurts a hair over Dak....but only by a hair. And Purdy only a smidge behind Dak.

Nobody is running away with this, but those three are the only ones in serious contention right now

No one knows at this point all guesswork.

This week and next could clarify things a little....or, at least, it's hurts' chance to pull away. Dak still has the toughest part of his schedule to come