2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (6 Viewers)

[DJackson10]

Maybe I’m in the rare population of Eagles fans that can 100% appreciate and be thankful for his contribution to winning our first SB while also recognizing that was his peak before he consistently regressed and never seemed to take accountability or have the self-awareness needed to be a leader.

I think most rational fans feel this way. That entire team and season was just typical Philly. We have a franchise QB with a photographic memory. He’s a combination of Rodgers and Manning along with a HC who’s changing the game from an aggressive standpoint. The underdog QB steps in to save the day. They have statues built and a couple years later they’re all gone lol. So crazy.

I’m sure there’s a lot of players who don’t take accountability or have much self awareness. There’s not many who were his age, had his ability and no one would touch him at the QB position. Kapernick was the closest that came to mind but his issues were glaring.

Don’t think CK is a great example. SF babied him from day 1 where Harbaugh wanted tough discipline (reminds me of the 76ers philosophy with Embiid and Simmons where Brett Brown wanted to coach accountability but overrides by higher ups). Holes were glaring numerious teammates talked how poorly he was and then he slept with another teammates GF who’s been his since leaving abd said teammate was let go. Loner in the locker room last one to show up first one to leave.

I don’t remember hearing that about Wentz. I think what happened with Wentz is he had a great mix of two coaches in Reich and Flip. When they left a younger guy who many in the league really like came in and was just in over his head. Doug however showed no accountability.

A lot of the vets on the team were hired mercenaries who were signed i won’t say that about Blount or Long but Alshon and others were. It was just a bad mix of guys in the end. A lot went wrong

I’d be interested in taking a survey of fans. What we know now would you still take the SB win when we did or not take it and hope we won with Doug eventually?

The thing about that team is chip left the org in such disarray it was shocking even to them they won when they did. Most expected 5 yrs rebuild.

 

[Terpman22]

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

Yeah, that is that one guy's opinion. I don't share the same opinion. Many people have shared that exact video with opinions more on the spectrum of what i share.

I know you guys like to believe propaganda though, so that is kind of par.

Am I being punked? Is this a TV show? Is Ashton Kucher going to pop out here in a minute??

I’m believing propaganda ???

I mean you're a Cowboys fan right. Isn't that what the Cowboys do? Feed you guys Rainbow and Butterfly news to keep you engaged? Maybe you're an outlier, and I don't mean to derail this thread into that but from my understanding you guys believed to a degree these things:

Cooks was gonna make a difference
Amari Cooper was traded b/c "he wasn't performing up to his contract"
Terrence Steele was a good extension
Jaylen Smith was a good extension
Michael Gallup was a good extension
Waiting to extend Dak was a good idea
Drafting a RB top 5 was a good idea
Extending said top 5 RB to $15M per year was a good idea
Franchising an RB off a broken leg was a good idea
Cooper Rush could replace Dak
Mike McCarthy would be a good play caller
Jalen Tolbert would break out with more time w Dak
It was all Noah Brown's fault
Dak is a clutch QB
Jerry gonna make a good trade deadline deal
Here comes Deandre Hopkins!
Here comes Stefon Diggs!
Here comes Aaron Donald!
Here comes Jalen Ramsey!
Here comes Von Miller!
Here comes Adrian Peterson!

I mean, there are more than just this, but off the top of my head, I know various fans IRL that believed maybe not all of these themself, but I know a real fan that at least believed in each and every one of these due to either Skip Bayless (VP of Cowboys Propaganda), Jerry Jones (CEO of Propaganda) and various twitter/influencers and social media.

But I could be wrong, maybe you don't fall into that category, but the non stop chatter about rumors or the blind belief in this stuff without any hesitation and/or possible thought "this might not work out"

Its just wild to me.

 

[Terpman22]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

No, I’m asking you if you only hate (your word) me first players if they’re injured and not playing. Because I don’t remember you hating Brown for it

 

[DJackson10]

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

A lot of colts fans disagreed ed the athlete tic reported Isray didn’t want Wentz and first chance he had to trade him he did for an aging Matt Ryan. A lot of colts fans were perplexed by that decision as issues ran deeper then Wentz. Grigorson and co had to conviene Isray to get him which is why talks lasted so long.

Washington is **** org no matter what so I don’t think you can fairly say those are good examples. If he had gone to NE or SF now and it happened I could see the reasoning to say that but not the two he was with befor the rams.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

Yeah, that is that one guy's opinion. I don't share the same opinion. Many people have shared that exact video with opinions more on the spectrum of what i share.

I know you guys like to believe propaganda though, so that is kind of par.

Am I being punked? Is this a TV show? Is Ashton Kucher going to pop out here in a minute??

I’m believing propaganda ???

I mean you're a Cowboys fan right. Isn't that what the Cowboys do? Feed you guys Rainbow and Butterfly news to keep you engaged? Maybe you're an outlier, and I don't mean to derail this thread into that but from my understanding you guys believed to a degree these things:

Cooks was gonna make a difference
Amari Cooper was traded b/c "he wasn't performing up to his contract"
Terrence Steele was a good extension
Jaylen Smith was a good extension
Michael Gallup was a good extension
Waiting to extend Dak was a good idea
Drafting a RB top 5 was a good idea
Extending said top 5 RB to $15M per year was a good idea
Franchising an RB off a broken leg was a good idea
Cooper Rush could replace Dak
Mike McCarthy would be a good play caller
Jalen Tolbert would break out with more time w Dak
It was all Noah Brown's fault
Dak is a clutch QB
Jerry gonna make a good trade deadline deal
Here comes Deandre Hopkins!
Here comes Stefon Diggs!
Here comes Aaron Donald!
Here comes Jalen Ramsey!
Here comes Von Miller!
Here comes Adrian Peterson!

I mean, there are more than just this, but off the top of my head, I know various fans IRL that believed maybe not all of these themself, but I know a real fan that at least believed in each and every one of these due to either Skip Bayless (VP of Cowboys Propaganda), Jerry Jones (CEO of Propaganda) and various twitter/influencers and social media.

But I could be wrong, maybe you don't fall into that category, but the non stop chatter about rumors or the blind belief in this stuff without any hesitation and/or possible thought "this might not work out"

Its just wild to me.

Seriously, what are you going on about?

What propaganda do you think I’m buying in regards to the Wentz video you posted?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

I don’t really care if you like Wentz or not, just found it odd that you hate him for a video where you have no idea what’s going on

 

[Terpman22]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

No, I’m asking you if you only hate (your word) me first players if they’re injured and not playing. Because I don’t remember you hating Brown for it

I only hate bad teammates that quit on their team, are not coachable AND don't give full effort. Don't believe me though. Believe the fact that Wentz, despite all the QB injuries that have occurred across the league and all the bad QBs on teams going into this season, that up until this very point, was not given any sort of option for playing in the league. Believe the fact he was benched in Washington for a journeyman backup in Heinecke. Don't believe me. Believe what has happened and maybe ask "why is that" if he isn't all the things I claim he is. I lied and said I wouldn't address it any further and it really is kind of silly for me to keep going back and forth with either you, or The Eagles fan here that obviously is and has been the biggest cheerleader of Wentz for a very long time, that also doesn't understand the word "propaganda" in and of itself has no political implications.

Moving on!

 

[Cowboysfan8]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

No, I’m asking you if you only hate (your word) me first players if they’re injured and not playing. Because I don’t remember you hating Brown for it

I only hate bad teammates that quit on their team, are not coachable AND don't give full effort. Don't believe me though. Believe the fact that Wentz, despite all the QB injuries that have occurred across the league and all the bad QBs on teams going into this season, that up until this very point, was not given any sort of option for playing in the league. Believe the fact he was benched in Washington for a journeyman backup in Heinecke. Don't believe me. Believe what has happened and maybe ask "why is that" if he isn't all the things I claim he is. I lied and said I wouldn't address it any further and it really is kind of silly for me to keep going back and forth with either you, or The Eagles fan here that obviously is and has been the biggest cheerleader of Wentz for a very long time, that also doesn't understand the word "propaganda" in and of itself has no political implications.

Moving on!

So Brown can act like a dooshy bad teammate and it’s fine by you as long as next game he catches a bunch of passes

Got it

 

[Terpman22]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

No, I’m asking you if you only hate (your word) me first players if they’re injured and not playing. Because I don’t remember you hating Brown for it

I only hate bad teammates that quit on their team, are not coachable AND don't give full effort. Don't believe me though. Believe the fact that Wentz, despite all the QB injuries that have occurred across the league and all the bad QBs on teams going into this season, that up until this very point, was not given any sort of option for playing in the league. Believe the fact he was benched in Washington for a journeyman backup in Heinecke. Don't believe me. Believe what has happened and maybe ask "why is that" if he isn't all the things I claim he is. I lied and said I wouldn't address it any further and it really is kind of silly for me to keep going back and forth with either you, or The Eagles fan here that obviously is and has been the biggest cheerleader of Wentz for a very long time, that also doesn't understand the word "propaganda" in and of itself has no political implications.

Moving on!

So Brown can act like a dooshy bad teammate and it’s fine by you as long as next game he catches a bunch of passes

Got it

Do you have a transcript of what he said?

Here is what he actually said about the incident:

"The sideline discussion, I want you all to know that's what it was, a discussion," Brown said. "It's a game that we both love and I want everybody to understand that sometimes emotions are high and that's kind of what happened. That doesn't mean it's the end of the world. That doesn't mean I'm beefing with Jalen.

"And no, it was not about targets. I’m sure everybody thought that because he threw me the ball three times in a row afterwards. But no, I was not over there discussing targets. It was about something that happened earlier and we were having a discussion about it.

"I know everybody took that out of context, but it’s not a big deal. Me and him are still on the same page, we’re still trying to grow, be great, and get wins most importantly."

 

[Cowboysfan8]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

No, I’m asking you if you only hate (your word) me first players if they’re injured and not playing. Because I don’t remember you hating Brown for it

I only hate bad teammates that quit on their team, are not coachable AND don't give full effort. Don't believe me though. Believe the fact that Wentz, despite all the QB injuries that have occurred across the league and all the bad QBs on teams going into this season, that up until this very point, was not given any sort of option for playing in the league. Believe the fact he was benched in Washington for a journeyman backup in Heinecke. Don't believe me. Believe what has happened and maybe ask "why is that" if he isn't all the things I claim he is. I lied and said I wouldn't address it any further and it really is kind of silly for me to keep going back and forth with either you, or The Eagles fan here that obviously is and has been the biggest cheerleader of Wentz for a very long time, that also doesn't understand the word "propaganda" in and of itself has no political implications.

Moving on!

So Brown can act like a dooshy bad teammate and it’s fine by you as long as next game he catches a bunch of passes

Got it

Do you have a transcript of what he said?

Here is what he actually said about the incident:

"The sideline discussion, I want you all to know that's what it was, a discussion," Brown said. "It's a game that we both love and I want everybody to understand that sometimes emotions are high and that's kind of what happened. That doesn't mean it's the end of the world. That doesn't mean I'm beefing with Jalen.

"And no, it was not about targets. I’m sure everybody thought that because he threw me the ball three times in a row afterwards. But no, I was not over there discussing targets. It was about something that happened earlier and we were having a discussion about it.

"I know everybody took that out of context, but it’s not a big deal. Me and him are still on the same page, we’re still trying to grow, be great, and get wins most importantly."

Speaking of propaganda lmao

You have a great day now

 

[Insein]

Nakobe Dean heading to IR with a Lis Franc injury.

 

[need2know]

Nakobe Dean heading to IR with a Lis Franc injury.

this guy seems like a bust and not gonna lie the defense did better earlier when he was out

 

[ProstheticRGK]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Nakobe Dean heading to IR with a Lis Franc injury.

this guy seems like a bust and not gonna lie the defense did better earlier when he was out

i want you to be wrong but can't argue with facts.

 

[Insein]

Nakobe Dean heading to IR with a Lis Franc injury.

this guy seems like a bust and not gonna lie the defense did better earlier when he was out

Starting to see why he fell to the 3rd round. Great intangibles but he may be too small for the NFL.

 

[jasvic]

Jason Kelce to be featured in People magazine's 'Sexiest Man Alive' issue

The 13-year NFL veteran joins Pedro Pascal, Usher, Timothée Chalamet, Jamie Foxx and Lenny Kravitz

www.phillyvoice.com

To help cleanse the palate.

 

[Terpman22]

Nakobe Dean heading to IR with a Lis Franc injury.

Its time for me to admit that Nakobe just ain't gonna be it. Always hurt and when he's not hurt, the play has been leaving a lot to be desired.

 

[Terpman22]

dunno. I think my hatred of him is right on par and healthy. That video I shared via the X/Twitters kind of sums up everything without saying anything at all

And if he was being selfish…do you feel the same about your 6 game record holding WR for bitching and crying on the sidelines for not getting enough balls his way when they were blowing someone out earlier this year?

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

You literally just said this, so let me know if you have audio or transcript of the conversation and why you would believe there is a difference.

AJ Brown is a current Eagles. Carson Wentz is not, hasn't been for a long time actually. Are you asking me to like Carson Wentz more as an ex-Eagle than the guy on our current team setting NFL Records?

Am I being punked?

No, I’m asking you if you only hate (your word) me first players if they’re injured and not playing. Because I don’t remember you hating Brown for it

I only hate bad teammates that quit on their team, are not coachable AND don't give full effort. Don't believe me though. Believe the fact that Wentz, despite all the QB injuries that have occurred across the league and all the bad QBs on teams going into this season, that up until this very point, was not given any sort of option for playing in the league. Believe the fact he was benched in Washington for a journeyman backup in Heinecke. Don't believe me. Believe what has happened and maybe ask "why is that" if he isn't all the things I claim he is. I lied and said I wouldn't address it any further and it really is kind of silly for me to keep going back and forth with either you, or The Eagles fan here that obviously is and has been the biggest cheerleader of Wentz for a very long time, that also doesn't understand the word "propaganda" in and of itself has no political implications.

Moving on!

So Brown can act like a dooshy bad teammate and it’s fine by you as long as next game he catches a bunch of passes

Got it

Do you have a transcript of what he said?

Here is what he actually said about the incident:

"The sideline discussion, I want you all to know that's what it was, a discussion," Brown said. "It's a game that we both love and I want everybody to understand that sometimes emotions are high and that's kind of what happened. That doesn't mean it's the end of the world. That doesn't mean I'm beefing with Jalen.

"And no, it was not about targets. I’m sure everybody thought that because he threw me the ball three times in a row afterwards. But no, I was not over there discussing targets. It was about something that happened earlier and we were having a discussion about it.

"I know everybody took that out of context, but it’s not a big deal. Me and him are still on the same page, we’re still trying to grow, be great, and get wins most importantly."

Speaking of propaganda lmao

You have a great day now

Always have a great discussion with you!

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

Judicious use of the ignore feature makes this thread much more readable. Though a little disjointed on the last couple of pages.

 

[Terpman22]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

Judicious use of the ignore feature makes this thread much more readable. Though a little disjointed on the last couple of pages.

Yeah man. I tried to give the dude a chance, but too much non Eagles garbage mixed in with the personal stories etc that just offer me or most people in here any true value worth reading or discussing.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

You all are a very special bunch

 

[Terpman22]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

You all are a very special bunch

Your football contributions in our thread literally never are about anything on the field. Keep up the good work man!

 

[ProstheticRGK]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

You all are a very special bunch

Scoreboard, homey.

 

[eighsse2]

Thanking y'all's team (Hurts, Brown, Swift) for my 8-1 start tied for first with 100-point tiebreaker lead. So far, so good. Hopefully back to it after the bye, we'll see. Also thanks for the 34 points from Lamb.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

I recall Hurts going 1-3 and had some of the worst numbers in the game but I get your point lol.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

Came here to post the same. Without context this is meaningless

 

[Terpman22]

All the confirmation I needed about wentz was his short stints with the Colts and redskins. They wanted no part of it after one season. And they were desperate for a qb. Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

“None of us know the context and I won’t speculate” is what’s written in what you linked.

Apparently that doesn’t go for you

Came here to post the same. Without context this is meaningless

Look I hear ya. I can fill in what the context is.

Team just won the Super Bowl.
Everyone in the locker room is celebrating.
The only guy that appears in the video not to be celebrating is Carson Wentz, with his head down.

Now we can speculate what he is feeling, but I never see him smile once in this small clip.

My take from the context and his body language is this

To me, he appears to be pouting. Maybe he is overcome with joy so much he can't contain himself, but my reading of his and the guy coming up to him is basically he was not feeling super great, the guy came over and said something to the effect (pure speculation) "Hey man, keep your head up" or "Hey bro, we just won the Super Bowl, be happy" or "We still believe in you, we got you"

But overall that's my personal feeling and take from this clip. I'm not sure there is any way to read too much into it, so its all personal speculation. But I've seen man babies cry before. This is kind of how they act when they are emotional and things don't go their way. I can't see how you could be on the other spectrum and be like "He seems elated, celebrating with his teammates, very happy for the team"

And for me to keep commenting on this lol

*I thought I was out, but THEY PULL me back in*

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I can't see how you could be on the other spectrum and be like "He seems elated, celebrating with his teammates, very happy for the team"

No one typed that

I understand he’s quite religious, maybe he was giving thanks

 

[Terpman22]

I can't see how you could be on the other spectrum and be like "He seems elated, celebrating with his teammates, very happy for the team"

No one typed that

I understand he’s quite religious, maybe he was giving thanks

I'd love to hear what your actual opinion on it was, rather than just argue against literally anything I say.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I can't see how you could be on the other spectrum and be like "He seems elated, celebrating with his teammates, very happy for the team"

No one typed that

I understand he’s quite religious, maybe he was giving thanks

I'd love to hear what your actual opinion on it was, rather than just argue against literally anything I say.

I have no idea what he was thinking/doing

I think it’s wrong to jump to conclusions and hate (your word) him for it.

I also think if he came back the next season and played great you’d overlook this moment no matter what and love him

 

[Deamon]

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

Damn, this clip actually made me feel for the guy. I have my issues with him, and as much as it pains me to agree, I don't think this really shows lack of leadership.

I think it's easy to sit and expect people who make a lot of money to lack the human emotions of jealousy, hurt, etc. If I was about to be one of the faces of the league, having an MVP season, and am sitting there with cameras in my face, rumours of my departure flying everywhere, etc... I can't confidently say that in the moment I would be jumping around celebrating. I think he's doing a decent job of holding it together there and hugging his teammates, and I'm sure he was overcome with a lot of emotions in that moment.

I dislike how he handled things/played afterwards, and I think he's always been trying too hard since to prove "I coulda done what Nick did too", but I don't think that video shows any lack of leadership, I think it shows him being a human.

 

[The Noid]

My last words on Wentz, and they have nothing to do with the SB feelings he may or may not have had: his play went downhill after Hurts was drafted (again, which may or may not have been a contributing factor) and he didn’t take accountability or coaching to try to get better, just kept trying to play hero ball. He pouted as soon as he got (justifiably) benched, like he was entitled to being QB1.

Then he did similar things at 2 other stops. The league soured on him for legitimate reasons, not because of some unconfirmed or misconstrued report. The Rams literally went through NPC quarterbacks (Dresser Winn?!?) before bringing him in.

He burned bright for a couple years before flaming out and at 31 (next month), unless he has some Robert Downey Jr. type of comeback, that’s his legacy.

 

[Terpman22]

Check out this incredible leadership. Team wins the Super Bowl, and he's pouting with his head down while everyone is celebrating. I actually had not seen this clip before.

https://twitter.com/phldawgs/status/1722074927891710248?s=43&t=hOCcF1lae_2WXYpVsAzlhA

Damn, this clip actually made me feel for the guy. I have my issues with him, and as much as it pains me to agree, I don't think this really shows lack of leadership.

I think it's easy to sit and expect people who make a lot of money to lack the human emotions of jealousy, hurt, etc. If I was about to be one of the faces of the league, having an MVP season, and am sitting there with cameras in my face, rumours of my departure flying everywhere, etc... I can't confidently say that in the moment I would be jumping around celebrating. I think he's doing a decent job of holding it together there and hugging his teammates, and I'm sure he was overcome with a lot of emotions in that moment.

I dislike how he handled things/played afterwards, and I think he's always been trying too hard since to prove "I coulda done what Nick did too", but I don't think that video shows any lack of leadership, I think it shows him being a human.

I think part of it also is the CLEAR other end of the spectrum Hurts is on. I mean he had friggin Nick Saban literally publicly crying, his leadership is so great. Just look at how Hurts acted/what he said after the Tua thing in college (and keep in mind he was younger, so you'd assume less mature than Wentz was at this time) compared to how Wentz acted, etc.

And to be clear I really rode with Wentz. I literally was at the game in LA when he tore his ACL and made a point to attend the first game he came back from it, Colts in Philly. And I still rode with him thru 2019 too. But as Noid, noted, once they drafted Hurts, his play deteriorated rapidly. It is almost as if something clicked in him "Oh not this s*** again) and just went on tilt.

I have no ill will toward him as a person. I appreciate everything he did to get us a Super Bowl and its comical people don't see that part, or that they don't see my words when I type up about that part.

But like Noid said, basically his legacy is what it is at this point. Unless there is some sort of miracle 180, this is kinda the guy who he is now. 31 years old and needing multiple injuries to QB's across basically 1/3 of the league to even get a shot at being a backup today. I feel that speaks volumes enough on its own.

Truly, my very last Wentz post. Haha. Probably.

 

[jon007]

The Perfect Bye Week

Jags beat the 49ers
Giants beat the Cowboys
Commanders beat the Seahawks
Chargers beat the Lions

 

[Deamon]

The Perfect Bye Week

Jags beat the 49ers
Giants beat the Cowboys
Commanders beat the Seahawks
Chargers beat the Lions

If even one of those happens I'll be surprised and happy.

 

[need2know]

The Perfect Bye Week

Jags beat the 49ers
Giants beat the Cowboys
Commanders beat the Seahawks
Chargers beat the Lions

No way in hell giants win. They in full blown tank mode. They might end up with the number 1 pick

 

[Pip's Invitation]

The Perfect Bye Week

Jags beat the 49ers
Giants beat the Cowboys
Commanders beat the Seahawks
Chargers beat the Lions

No way in hell giants win. They in full blown tank mode. They might end up with the number 1 pick

I have a hard time envisioning them winning another game this year.

 

[The Noid]

Lost in the drama of the DAL game was how much Nakobe Dean looked overmatched and lost (again) and how the D didn’t seem any worse when he went out injured.

He’s getting really close to bust territory.

 

[DJackson10]

Do you recall how much better the eagles became immediately after wentz was benched for Hurts? It was like the sun rose and destroyed the night.

I recall Hurts going 1-3 and had some of the worst numbers in the game but I get your point lol.

I recall the eagles at one point looking to try and trade up for Zach Wilson too or another QB. They were at all sold on hurts yet

 

[The Noid]

The Princess Di jackets are going to be the hot Christmas item this year!

 

[babydemon90]

Lost in the drama of the DAL game was how much Nakobe Dean looked overmatched and lost (again) and how the D didn’t seem any worse when he went out injured.

He’s getting really close to bust territory.

Eh, he's a 3rd rounder. Not a huge miss - obviously it sucks, but with his pedigree was worth a shot in the 3rd round.

 

[babydemon90]

The Perfect Bye Week

Jags beat the 49ers
Giants beat the Cowboys
Commanders beat the Seahawks
Chargers beat the Lions

No way in hell giants win. They in full blown tank mode. They might end up with the number 1 pick

That's the only one with no shot in hell though. And tbh I'd root for Seattle to win.

 

[Insein]

The Perfect Bye Week

Jags beat the 49ers
Giants beat the Cowboys
Commanders beat the Seahawks
Chargers beat the Lions

No way in hell giants win. They in full blown tank mode. They might end up with the number 1 pick

That's the only one with no shot in hell though. And tbh I'd root for Seattle to win.

Seriously. This is like Ohio State vs Western Kentucky. It's not going to be close.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

The Princess Di jackets are going to be the hot Christmas item this year!

I used to have one of those- at least close to it, in grade school. Wish I'd have kept it to sell it on eBay, now.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'm so glad it's the bye this week. The Wentz talk and the Cowboy troll talk is really anti-conversational in its tedious homogeneity.

Judicious use of the ignore feature makes this thread much more readable. Though a little disjointed on the last couple of pages.

Yeah man. I tried to give the dude a chance, but too much non Eagles garbage mixed in with the personal stories etc that just offer me or most people in here any true value worth reading or discussing.

Put him on ignore like everyone else has. Then you don't have to deal with his nonsense.

 

[DJackson10]

The Princess Di jackets are going to be the hot Christmas item this year!

$400 yeah no thanks. I can barely justify paying that much for a ticket to a sporting event let alone a jacket. Lines were everywhere at the pro shops and already sold out.

The funny thing is these are the same people who walk in the grocery store and you get behind and they are complaining about prices or wanting a discount all while having their designer bags and jackets with them.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Rams correcting their 2016 choice, somehow manage to get the first and second pick of the year. I had actually hoped they would draft Wentz and Goff to Eagles at the time, oh how things would have been so different including the SB in '17.

Wentz gets a terrible rep and some of it is deserved. but what I hate most is people who won’t even admit he’s one of the big reasons we won the SB that year. It reminds me of the fans who still **** on McNabb

Wentz was the leading MVP candidate before going down and took brady 3 weeks to tie and surpass his TD throws that’s season. People forget how much Foles struggled those last few weeks. I think many forget how down everyone was and many had the negadelphia we got the bye but would lose anyway.

I remember a few people including Dino telling me “without that bye week we’d been ****ed!!! Thank god Wentz played as good as he did and the rest of the guys up till he was hurt.” DeFillipo and Reich asked Doug if they could take the bye week to go through a new game plan to work with Foles. They went back to Nick’s best season under Chip. That’s when the RPOs took off in Philly. After talking and going over film with Nick the 3 went to Doug Pederson and said this is the game plan we’re all comfortable with. Doug approved and the rest is history. Outside the playoff run most don’t realize how mediocre Foles was right before that and after. All they remember is how he played in the playoffs.

It sucks how everything went after that but no one person gets blamed over the other. Everyone from Lurie on down had their part on how things turned out after that. It’s just easy for many to blame one person instead of having a real debate what happened. Just regurgitating what the idiots who don’t know **** throw up on a wall hoping it sticks

It does seem like the tide turned fast with Wentz. I remember hanging on for him longer than most did and being surprised back then how quickly folks forgot his role there.

 

[DJackson10]

Lost in the drama of the DAL game was how much Nakobe Dean looked overmatched and lost (again) and how the D didn’t seem any worse when he went out injured.

He’s getting really close to bust territory.

Eh, he's a 3rd rounder. Not a huge miss - obviously it sucks, but with his pedigree was worth a shot in the 3rd round.

Yeah this isn’t like taking Sydney jones in the early 2nd after a blown Achillies and having other needs. When we made the pick it we were at a luxary. If it fails so what.

 

[DJackson10]

The Princess Di jackets are going to be the hot Christmas item this year!

I used to have one of those- at least close to it, in grade school. Wish I'd have kept it to sell it on eBay, now.

I had one of the starter winter coats that was popular back in the day. Someone got me a mighty ducks one too. Eagles one I had and wore plenty to the vet