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2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (2 Viewers)
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
It can be both.
And both things probably should change by next week. They wont...thats an almost absolute guarantee...but doesn't change the fact that they probably should.
irish eyes
Footballguy
No chance anything changes, it's an absolute****show. Gee, I really hope we have a chance at finishing above.500. That would be so great. That's the Steelers Superbowl now, just not having a losing record.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Pickett went from subpar to horrible year 1 to year 2.
Officials help Steelers weekly, but missing an obvious safety wasn't enough for them to pull off another fluke win.
Officials help Steelers weekly, but missing an obvious safety wasn't enough for them to pull off another fluke win.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
It is both.
That makes 3 of us! Lol.
I couldn’t resist checking the score and then once I saw the stats there’s no way I’m watching that game.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I think the worst thing about all of this is listening to quotes from Najee, Diontae, Pickens, etc, they’re clearly deflated with the coaching staff. I expect this will turn very ugly from this point forward. The luck has probably run out and I see a lot of anger/hostility in that locker room. Tomlin of course comes out with his typical quotes that add zero hope.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’m thinking of torturing myself and watching some of it lol. Just so I can confirm how bad Pickett really is.
Also, I’m interested in watching to see if Broderick Jones continued to progress.
irish eyes
Footballguy
And this same charade will go on on and on and on. All of these idiot media people mainly like ESPN don't actually watch any of the game. Saying he's one of the top coaches in the league. Not here, not anymore. He needs to go.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Noodle arm who locks on one side of the field and then checks down or panics and gets sacked. He is already 25 years old. Pull the plug. Put him on IR with a rib injury to save face and play Rudolph and plan for next season.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Big pulling block on the best play of the game. Line was mostly bad though.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Has local press turned on Pickett yet, or are they still slobbering over him going to Pitt?
irish eyes
Footballguy
Not sure but it is evident he is awful. But media people are simpletons.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’m watching it now lol. I can’t believe the refs did not call that first play a safety. I also can’t believe the Browns didn’t challenge it.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Steelers were only outgained by 10 yards today. They were soooooo close to breaking that streak!
crushedspirit
Footballguy
He hesitated a little too long and dropped the red flag after the Steelers had already snapped the next play.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Remind me who let Dobbs walk for nothing? This guy can progress through his reads and play the position well.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Pickett has absolutely zero ability to even to look past his first read. What an absolute disaster of a pick.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Should have rolled with Trubisky, Rudy, and Dobbs last year and drafted Creed Humphrey.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Also, is Porter good at anything? He’s grabby on every single play. Another potential bust.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
This was known before the draft. He was one of the most penalized in College for the same things.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Pickett plays like a guy who only had one good year of college football while throwing to arguably the best WR in the nation against a relatively weak football conference.
It was a reach when they drafted him that's going to set the franchise back for a while, and it's not like the last 7 years have been anything special. The last 13 years with a 3-7 postseason record haven't been either.
It was a reach when they drafted him that's going to set the franchise back for a while, and it's not like the last 7 years have been anything special. The last 13 years with a 3-7 postseason record haven't been either.
irish eyes
Footballguy
This team is such bad a bad place. It gets worse every year, they aren't even close to being on the same stratosphere as the good teams in the league. But hey, lets see if they can stick with this clown to say look at us, we've only had 3 coaches in a hundred years. Marvin lewis anyone?? Where is he now??
Grid71
Footballguy
KP passing chart. Browns didn’t have to defend the middle of the field at all.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Pathetic performance by Pickett. I'm ready to turn the ball over to Trubisky or Rudolph.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
The Browning-Pickett matchup next week is going to be lit.
belljr
Footballguy
Misleading post. Those are the routes he was targeted.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Best way to do that is to stick with Pickett/Canada for the remainder of the year. I still think they need to keep playing Pickett. This is a lost season and they wasted a first round pick on the guy. Trubisky and Rudolph are not going to be saviors. Just keep giving Pickett experience and QB competition next year with the hopes of drafting the future QB before the 25/26 season. The Steelers will still probably end up with a couple more wins so I’m guessing they’ll be drafting in the mid to late teens. Get the best player available.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Out of respect for Heyward and Watt, Tomlin needs to make a dramatic move or two . . . .
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I never though I would say this: I wish we signed Baker Mayfield.
Your backups are there for a reason when you're starting QB is sharding the bed and needs to be benched. Otherwise, why employ them. Are the Steelers going to continue to reward Pickett's poor performance with continuous starts. Mitch is making 8 million to carry a clip board. Mason at 1 million.
Leroy love that chart which basically show's Pickens running cardio routes. How hard is it for the OC to have Picken's run routes trying for mismatches on LB in the middle of the field.
Leroy love that chart which basically show's Pickens running cardio routes. How hard is it for the OC to have Picken's run routes trying for mismatches on LB in the middle of the field.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
And they had Picken 1-on-1 on that disasterous play where Pickett threw to Warren who ran right into 3 defenders. Kenny never looked anywhere else at all. He is as much to blame as Canada at this point. I always hated that draft pick but hoped he would prove me wrong. After pre-season, I was excited, but now I am over him completely. We are wasting Watt, Heyward, and Minkah.
steelers1080
Footballguy
THEY CALLED A TIMEOUT THE FIRST PLAY AFTER A PUNT. WTF!
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
But isn’t Pickett just going to his first read every play? If that’s the case, the moron isn’t calling any plays to be targeted to the middle. And every defense knows that.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
If you have a 1 read QB, the coach needs to add some variety/creativity to the play calling. I’m getting real close to being in the fire Tomlin camp. If he can’t see how bad Canada is by now, he’s a major part of the problem.
steelers1080
Footballguy
The time to make the dramatic move was after last season, and the Steelers f***ed up. I'm not sure if it's Rooney or Tomlin's fault, but we should have fired Canada AND Austin. Our defense is set up to fail on many plays also, the offense is just so bad most people don't seem to notice. We should have hired Flores as DC and Slowik as OC, F***. With Heyward, Highsmith, and Watt up front, how are we not getting more pressure against a team missing their two starting OTs?
Mason Cole suuuuuuucks. There was 1 play in particular where Warren was running and Cole was ahead of him. There was 1 defender between Warren and the end zone, and Cole ran past him. He didn't appear to even really try and block him. If he had blocked him we'd have been up 14-10. Why even bother pulling into space ahead of the RB if you're just going to lumber down the field like an idiot.
I am also one of the last Tomlin apologists, but he's making it really hard this season. The press conference after the game was so f***in tone deaf. The offense sucks, Warren should have had more touches. The 2nd to last drive started on the 50 and we didn't do anything, the last drive took 14 seconds and didn't move, and the player who had been gashing the D wasn't used at all. Three straight passes to Diontae who is clearly not on the same page as Kenny.
Also, with 465 yards in the LAST 4 GAMES COMBINED, it's really freakin hard not to write Kenny off. They need to fire Canada now to see if Kenny can do anything with a different play caller. Per Najee's quote, the defense definitely knows what's coming on most plays. Yes, a very talented team might still be able to win at the point of execution, but we're not that. We have mediocre talent at QB & offensive line, so we need to have a solid scheme.
Steps to take this week to turn the season around:
- Fire Canada
- Bench Mason Cole for Herbig
- Try Kenny against the Bengals with New OC. If he doesn't surpass 250 yards passing and win the game, bench him for Rudolph. (If Kenny's ribs are holding him back, put him on IR)
- Tomlin take over DC play calling
steelers1080
Footballguy
All the buzz is that Tomlin doesn't have permission to fire him from the Rooneys, and that's why Canada came back this year at all. Not sure if that's true or not.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I've thought that for a couple months now.
Winning just enough to not suck is getting really old, but not to the people who make decisions.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
He's been a major part of the problem for a long time now.
steelcityman
Footballguy
6 wins already, and probably 2 more, at worst, removes them from the top tier of QB picks. I doubt the trade up for a QB, just because they are invested in Pickett.
But without a good QB, you dont win the in the NFL.
And since Ben, they havent drafted even good backup QBs. So there is no guarantee whoever they might draft be any good.
They are in a bad cycle of mid level ball. Its bordering on a disaster here. Old school mentality from top down(it not 1972 anymore), bad coaches, bad draft picks, underachieving players, stars getting older on defense. To rebuild an offense and defense at the same time is not a good place to be.
But without a good QB, you dont win the in the NFL.
And since Ben, they havent drafted even good backup QBs. So there is no guarantee whoever they might draft be any good.
They are in a bad cycle of mid level ball. Its bordering on a disaster here. Old school mentality from top down(it not 1972 anymore), bad coaches, bad draft picks, underachieving players, stars getting older on defense. To rebuild an offense and defense at the same time is not a good place to be.
Yes but Canada gave Tomlins kid a scholarship to play at Maryland and I believe that was his only D1 offer.
You can’t get rid of Canada!!!!!
The dynamic duo of Kenny Pickett and the OC are failing miserably. The wonder twins can't help them. It's been a no brainer since the OC's hire that he was unqualified and needs to go. The OC is making $700,000. So, if you're blaming both. At least make a change on the lower cost employee. I'd be fine seeing Pickett with new coordinator. But the longer Pickett and the OC stay together it only worsens Kenny's long-term prospects.
Rooney's are notoriously cheap there not super deep pocket owners. But you can't tell me that the Rooney's can't afford to eat the OC's contract. Heck Steeler's fans would support a GoFundMe page of Fire Canada help Rooney's eat his salary.
The OC has a $600,000 bonus if he leads the team to the super bowl. OMG really hahahaha The OC needs ChatGPT, COPilot or whatever flavor of AI to help him keep his job.
Rooney's are notoriously cheap there not super deep pocket owners. But you can't tell me that the Rooney's can't afford to eat the OC's contract. Heck Steeler's fans would support a GoFundMe page of Fire Canada help Rooney's eat his salary.
The OC has a $600,000 bonus if he leads the team to the super bowl. OMG really hahahaha The OC needs ChatGPT, COPilot or whatever flavor of AI to help him keep his job.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
That's crazy to think that a veteran coach like Tomlin doesn't have the right to make personnel decisions.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you'll do it, aka, why people call him cheap.
He spends on players, but usually won't give guarantees. We have the smallest coaching staff in the NFL. Our facilities were rated really poorly by players. Etc.
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