Leeroy Jenkins
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Let them battle it out. Two guys trying to reclaim their spots and another trying to prove he was held back by Ben being in front of him.
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2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (2 Viewers)
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Let them battle it out. Two guys trying to reclaim their spots and another trying to prove he was held back by Ben being in front of him.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I have zero illusions about Mitch....but his 2nd year in the league was pretty much the sum total of Haskins entire career starting to date.
I think this says more about what they think of Rudolph internally (regardless of what they say externally). Which is fine by me, since externally everyone pretty much knows he sucks.
geneyus
Footballguy
This. Question is whether he is better after his year in Buffalo and what Pittsburgh can do with him.
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Bad front office: paying a premium in draft capital and salary space for a once highly drafted QB in hopes a change of scenery does him good. Ex. Carolina-Darnold
Good front office: grabbing ex first round RB's off the scrap heap for no draft capital and cheap salary in hopes a change of scenery does them good. Ex. Steelers-Trubisky/Haskins
You might be right on all 3 QB's being bad and up to this point for sure but I'm a fan of the approach.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
If one points to Nagy as the main issue, then maybe some may think he's better than what he showed on the field. But, the QB I saw the last 2 seasons in Chicago couldn't pass downfield, was wildly inaccurate, and his decision making was beyond poor.
I guess he's going to set them up for a higher 2023 QB pick.
I guess he's going to set them up for a higher 2023 QB pick.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Well, I think the plan is try to see if one of these reclamation projects can hit. If they don't, then we have a better pick in a better QB draft. If they do hit, then we got a top QB without spending draft capital.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
If that's all that comes from it, there is at least one fan that's totally okay with it.
Their defense is probably still too good for the team to completely bottom out, and their front office/staff/most of the fanbase is not willing to accept a "completely lost season" anyway. IMO, this is an attempt to bridge a gap to a better QB class without completely flushing "competitiveness", IMO. Whether that is worth doing is a legitimate topic for discussion, but to me it sure feels like that's what they're doing.
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steelers1080
Footballguy
Dang, Cappa and Laken Tomlinson signing with the Bengals and Jets. Wonder if we're going to have a shot at any of the FA O-linemen that are decent.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
For sure. And not being laser focused on a having to draft a quarterback in the first should help with that. That's what I'm hoping, at least.
Picking up some OL help in FA along with this news would be the ####.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Still a number of decent under-the-radar types out there on the interior (at least according to the site I'm checking). Glowinski wouldn't be a bad get. Good run blocker, has an edge to him
Armstead still un-signed, fwiw
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
JoeSteeler
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
I would accept 1 bottom 5 season if it set them up nicely going forward.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
What is the best free agent tracker? The one at ESPN is behind a pay wall.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Still a number of decent under-the-radar types out there on the interior (at least according to the site I'm checking). Glowinski wouldn't be a bad get. Good run blocker, has an edge to him
Armstead still un-signed, fwiw
Sign Armstead. Draft 2 of Linderbaum; Raimann; Penning; Johnson; Diesch; Faalele.
steelcityman
Footballguy
Faalele will get smoked like salmon in the NFL. But I agree, hit the OL hard in FA and the draft.
James Daniels and Bozeman would be great, then draft OT(would Penning be too much to ask)? If they are all gone, take DL, one should slip if all the OL are gone.
Hope Haden comes back on the cheap. Still need CB. And safety.
James Daniels and Bozeman would be great, then draft OT(would Penning be too much to ask)? If they are all gone, take DL, one should slip if all the OL are gone.
Hope Haden comes back on the cheap. Still need CB. And safety.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
wow Folorunso Fatukasi reportedly signing with Jacksonville for a three-year, $30MM deal with $20MM fully guaranteed!
I like him a lot, but not at that price.
I like him a lot, but not at that price.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Jags signing Christian Kirk for 4 years, $84 million. That's insane. Per Schefter. That's more than Mike Williams got. The contract numbers might be crazy this offseason due to the increasing cap, maybe the cap numbers for 2023 and beyond are anticipated to get crazy, like $228 mil then $240+ mil. Means there's a lot more room for contract growth, and honestly I'd rather that $$ go to the players than the owners...
i have advocated for signing Trubisky as much as anyone, (i know you have frequently too), but i think even if we massively upgrade the OL, it's optimistic to hope he could rank as QB # 23-25 next season. but Ben was what # 32?
steelers1080
Footballguy
Rumors swirling that the Trubisky deal isn't for that much money and that he specifically chose the Steelers over the Giants. The basis for the rumors appears to be the fact that the $$ has not leaked yet, and that it almost always does for contracts worth bragging about. It could be because Trubs has a higher chance to start for the Steelers, or it could be because Trubs is expecting a baby and his fam is from Ohio, so in Pitt he's closer to fam.
Hoping the deal is less than $10 mil per year. Something like 2 years $15 mil with year 1 $5 and year 2 $10.
Hoping the deal is less than $10 mil per year. Something like 2 years $15 mil with year 1 $5 and year 2 $10.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Have read a lot of comments criticizing the signing and not sure why. Did fans really think they were going to trade for Watson or get Rodgers?
most likely a team favorable contract that they can get out of after 1 year with not a lot of cap hit.
Am I super excited? No, but I think it was a solid signing considering the circumstances.
most likely a team favorable contract that they can get out of after 1 year with not a lot of cap hit.
Am I super excited? No, but I think it was a solid signing considering the circumstances.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Because the average fan has 0 clue who is a free agent and who is not, or what the salary cap is. They just want whoever they see as the best QB and put on blinders.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Brian Allen back to Rams, wonder if this means we're def locked in to Green at C.
that said, i just did some research. in 2018, his 2nd year in the league, after only starting 1 year in college, when PFF ranked Chicago's OL # 22 in the NFL, Trubisky's QBR of 71.0 was third in the league behind only Mahomes 80.3, and Brees 79.2.
ahead of: Ben 69.6, Luck 69.6, Brady 68.4, Rivers 67.8, Wilson 63.3, Watson 61.8 and Rodgers 58.0.
so maybe miracles happen sometimes.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I mean, he is training/working with Pouncey. They drafted him as Center -- so I think probably so.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
steelers1080
Footballguy
The Steelers were heavily rumored to be interested in Jensen and Allen, so I don't think it was a given.
JC Jackson signing with Chargers, 5 years $82 million. Very weird that he's getting paid way less than Christian Kirk...
steelers1080
Footballguy
Carlton Davis expected to re-sign with Bucs, 3 years $45 million.
They had 0 cap room, not sure how they were able to bring back Jensen and Davis, and I don't like it lol.
They had 0 cap room, not sure how they were able to bring back Jensen and Davis, and I don't like it lol.
steelers1080
Footballguy
At this point, who's left that we'd be interested in? Maybe some combo of:
- Austin Corbett, G
- James Daniels, G
- Connor Williams, G
- Jordan Whitehead, S
- Juju
- Charvarious Ward, CB
- Levi Wallace, CB
- Leighton Vander Esch, ILB
- Bobby Wagner, ILB
- Chuks
- DJ Jones, DT
steelers1080
Footballguy
Garafolo reporting the Steelers have re-signed Chuks.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
You know how I know you're a bad front office?
Meh.
I still like Glowinski at G a bit. Certainly an upgrade in the run blocking department, and they're clearly committing to that from where I'm sitting, and pretty capable pass blocking. Not 30 yet.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Started 4/games at C and 3 at RG last year per some random internet guy.
Sounds like he is a much better run blocker than pass blocker.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
They need a CB big time, but the FA are thinning out
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Yeah, a ton of teams do though, that's the rub.
Hopefully they figure out whatever it is that has made them boner up so many evals at CB via the draft lately. (Although, I will allow that I still think Senquez was a balllller. Sucks he ripped his leg apart. Hell, that was forever ago now too.)
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Saw this posted by elsewhere re: Cole....
"Cole is a former third-round pick of the Cardinals who was a starter two of his three years with the team. After being traded to the Vikings in 2021, Cole was expected to be the primary backup at both center and guard, but with Garrett Bradbury’s struggles, Cole saw increased playing time as the season progressed. He finished the season with 0 penalties and only 2 sacks in 471 offensive snaps. As a matter of fact, Cole is only responsible for 7 sacks and 12 penalties in 2,537 snaps in his NFL career. Those are incredibly solid numbers, especially for someone who is perceived by many as just an average starter at best."
Didn't not fact check it for veracity, so take it fwiw.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Woof. Same.
Guess Chuks has Will Blackwell's old locker? Unearthed those old photos of Rooney effing a goat?
Assume they must think he's worth developing since he's still just 24. That's an assload of cash for a "meh" RT, though.
I guess that spells cut city for Banner?
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
He isn't meh. He was terrible. He was graded as the 82nd highest T by PFF last year. He is a liability
If the incentives are not easily met, and it doesn't change their draft strategy, I would come all the way around to liking this deal.
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