2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (4 Viewers)

[irish eyes]

Reports that Bill is done in New England no matter what happens the rest of the season. Pretty wild that if the Steelers lose out, both Tomlin and BB could be on the market.

I think there is a 0% chance Tomlin is elsewhere unless they are approached with a Godfather trade offer that puts the Gruden trade to shame.

He may need to clean house on assistants though. You have WRs and TEs not running routes. Miscommunication all over the field etc.

Could see an organization take that shot at trading for Coach T. Enough turmoil surrounding the Steelers makes it plausible enough to make an offer too good to refuse.

Flip the script with Chicago. Tomlin loves Fields right? Chicago loves defense. Draft capital is there. Big time need of a head coach.

Don't tease me like that. Too good to be true. Steeler fans will just have to suffer until he decides he wants to go.

 

[Godsbrother]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

 

[steelers1080]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

 

[fred_1_15301]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

 

[Godsbrother]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Good points for sure. It really depends on what happens the rest of the season and what they intend to do at OC. If the Steelers downfall continues I think it is unlikely they would want to sign him to an extension, on the other hand I don't see them firing him either. If they let him play out his contract they will just hire an OC from within. Depressing I know but certainly more likely than trading Tomlin.

If Tomlin can salvage the season then he'll get the usual 3 year extension. Then again all of this assumes that Tomlin wants to stay.

 

[steelers1080]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

 

[Steelers4Life]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts 45
Steelers 3

 

[sm8680]

Colts 45
Steelers 3

That's most likely not going to happen. But then in 1955 the Steelers cut Johnny Unitas and kept Ted Marchibroda. So, anything is possible.

 

[Godsbrother]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

I’m not sure I would call Tomlin a great coach either but his next win will put him 13th all time.

That’s pretty good but then again it’s mainly due to Cowher and Big Ben. Tomlin just sat back and did nothing as the wins piled up. A head of lettuce could have done the same thing.

 

[Steelers4Life]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

I’m not sure I would call Tomlin a great coach either but his next win will put him 13th all time.

That’s pretty good but then again it’s mainly due to Cowher and Big Ben. Tomlin just sat back and did nothing as the wins piled up. A head of lettuce could have done the same thing.

Not exactly what I said, but of course you know that. I take issue with the idea that he's a great coach. He's a solid coach who inherited a great team and has consistently had above average overall talent until basically the last year or maybe two, and it's been a consistent decline on his watch. Nothing more and nothing less. I never said he's a terrible coach, just that he's far from a great one.

He can win if he has talent, but he won't make a less talented team better and has shown zero ability or desire to hire powerful or innovative assistants. He needs help.

 

[H8fulHuck]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

I’m not sure I would call Tomlin a great coach either but his next win will put him 13th all time.

That’s pretty good but then again it’s mainly due to Cowher and Big Ben. Tomlin just sat back and did nothing as the wins piled up. A head of lettuce could have done the same thing.

Not exactly what I said, but of course you know that. I take issue with the idea that he's a great coach. He's a solid coach who inherited a great team and has consistently had above average overall talent until basically the last year or maybe two, and it's been a consistent decline on his watch. Nothing more and nothing less. I never said he's a terrible coach, just that he's far from a great one.

He can win if he has talent, but he won't make a less talented team better and has shown zero ability or desire to hire powerful or innovative assistants. He needs help.

you should edit that post to add, 'unless your team wants to trade for Tomlin. Then he is one of the winningest first ballot HOF coaches in history. You'll need to make a strong offer to pry him away from us. Desean Watson type trade would be fine.'

 

[H8fulHuck]

#1 issue is Coaching and the organization MUST know this whether they say it or not. Players do need to execute, but when the coaches don't present a winning game plan... I applaud Pickens for calling them out for it. CeeDee Lamb or AJ Brown couldn't be successful in this offense. It's terrible.

Going into today's game, coaches have had a long break to remove heads from posteriors. This game plan has to be the best they've put together all season or it's clear the coaching staff has given up. Despite the mess, I believe it can be done. Get creative and help the team for a change. Don't let Indy out coach you because they are good in that realm. I'm rooting for you!!!

 

[JohnnyU]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

I’m not sure I would call Tomlin a great coach either but his next win will put him 13th all time.

That’s pretty good but then again it’s mainly due to Cowher and Big Ben. Tomlin just sat back and did nothing as the wins piled up. A head of lettuce could have done the same thing.

Not exactly what I said, but of course you know that. I take issue with the idea that he's a great coach. He's a solid coach who inherited a great team and has consistently had above average overall talent until basically the last year or maybe two, and it's been a consistent decline on his watch. Nothing more and nothing less. I never said he's a terrible coach, just that he's far from a great one.

He can win if he has talent, but he won't make a less talented team better and has shown zero ability or desire to hire powerful or innovative assistants. He needs help.

you should edit that post to add, 'unless your team wants to trade for Tomlin. Then he is one of the winningest first ballot HOF coaches in history. You'll need to make a strong offer to pry him away from us. Desean Watson type trade would be fine.'

What makes anyone think Tomlin is worth trading for?

 

[H8fulHuck]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

I’m not sure I would call Tomlin a great coach either but his next win will put him 13th all time.

That’s pretty good but then again it’s mainly due to Cowher and Big Ben. Tomlin just sat back and did nothing as the wins piled up. A head of lettuce could have done the same thing.

Not exactly what I said, but of course you know that. I take issue with the idea that he's a great coach. He's a solid coach who inherited a great team and has consistently had above average overall talent until basically the last year or maybe two, and it's been a consistent decline on his watch. Nothing more and nothing less. I never said he's a terrible coach, just that he's far from a great one.

He can win if he has talent, but he won't make a less talented team better and has shown zero ability or desire to hire powerful or innovative assistants. He needs help.

you should edit that post to add, 'unless your team wants to trade for Tomlin. Then he is one of the winningest first ballot HOF coaches in history. You'll need to make a strong offer to pry him away from us. Desean Watson type trade would be fine.'

What makes anyone think Tomlin is worth trading for?

Players love him. Professional. Consistent. He has the media buzz/hype. Any team who has suffered losing season after losing season would absolutely love a coach who pulls out an above .500 record no matter what level of talent is on the field. Give them hope and bring in players who want to play for him.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

This team blows.

 

[irish eyes]

While it makes sense to try and trade Tomlin rather than just firing him outright, I can’t imagine the Steelers doing that.

My guess is they will wait on signing him to an extension and let things play out

This feels like the only option they won't choose. I don't think they'd move into next season with a lame duck coach, and the best coordinator options probably wouldn't choose a coach that might only last one year.

I think they either move on or extend him, and I think it's more likely they extend him by at least a year or 2.

Yup and then I think they’ll extend him again in 2 years because nothing will have changed and who would they find that would be better.

It's definitely possible. From the outside looking in, it appears that the team has become stale. Tomlin can still be a great coach but need to move on (Andy Reid-style).

I'm hopeful that instead the Steelers (Omar/Weidl) can find a way to jump start him and turn this around. I think the key to that will be for someone else to bring in a DC and OC from outside that get along with Tomlin, but bring more to the table.

I find myself wondering when exactly Tomlin has actually been a great coach. I know what his reputation nationally has been, and winning early set the stage for everything else.

I don't dispute that his first 4 or 5 years were great, but that team was set up exceptionally well and a lot of coaches would've won consistently with that defense and Roethlisberger leading the offense. But at what point has a team of his exceeded expectations by playing better than expected? I'm not talking about having a better record than deserved in years like this one, I'm talking about genuine improvement over what was expected based on the team's talent level. Has his leadership or coaching staff actually improved on what they were supposed to be?

To me, it just hasn't happened. He's been fine, and he's had enough talent to win at least 8 or 9 games per year every year. But a great coach? I guess I can't figure out what he's done at any point to deserve that except for taking advantage of a talented roster for a few years before a consistent decline since.

And who could they hire that'd be better? Of course there's risk in moving on, but in the NFL today, his style doesn't fit anymore. I don't think it's a high bar to set for a different coach to step in and somehow manage to win 3 playoff games in the next 13 years.

I’m not sure I would call Tomlin a great coach either but his next win will put him 13th all time.

That’s pretty good but then again it’s mainly due to Cowher and Big Ben. Tomlin just sat back and did nothing as the wins piled up. A head of lettuce could have done the same thing.

Not exactly what I said, but of course you know that. I take issue with the idea that he's a great coach. He's a solid coach who inherited a great team and has consistently had above average overall talent until basically the last year or maybe two, and it's been a consistent decline on his watch. Nothing more and nothing less. I never said he's a terrible coach, just that he's far from a great one.

He can win if he has talent, but he won't make a less talented team better and has shown zero ability or desire to hire powerful or innovative assistants. He needs help.

you should edit that post to add, 'unless your team wants to trade for Tomlin. Then he is one of the winningest first ballot HOF coaches in history. You'll need to make a strong offer to pry him away from us. Desean Watson type trade would be fine.'

What makes anyone think Tomlin is worth trading for?

Players love him. Professional. Consistent. He has the media buzz/hype. Any team who has suffered losing season after losing season would absolutely love a coach who pulls out an above .500 record no matter what level of talent is on the field. Give them hope and bring in players who want to play for him.

Of course players love him. There is no accountability & they do what ever the heck they want.

 

[irish eyes]

Even announcers making fun of coaching decisions. Lololol a 22 yard Harvin punt

 

[McBokonon]

I’m going to Seattle over NYE weekend and will be going to the game. Is there any way to tell if the game is eligible to be flexed to Sunday Night? I haven’t looked at the other games but it’s possible the game has major playoff implications for both teams. Part of me would love being at SNF in an awesome environment like this.

I no longer think you guys were callously ignoring me. You simply recognized this as the ridiculous question it was.

 

[crushedspirit]

I want Tomlin to stay to show all his fans who he is without Ben.

Maybe he can prove me wrong, and I'll be the first to admit it.

 

[fred_1_15301]

The Steelers are now going to assess Rudolph against a prevent D.

 

[fred_1_15301]

There is no way this team is winning another game this year. They don’t even have a shot week 18 against Baltimore backups. The worst part is that there is no easy fix to this mess. They have major holes almost everywhere and their coaching staff is no good.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Rudolph sighting. :-D

Tell me you've given up without telling me you've given up.

 

[Bad_Mo2]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The Steelers are now going to assess Rudolph against a prevent D.

Just get him reps I guess.

We stink.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Need Center and QB. Kind of important positions.

 

[irish eyes]

There is no way this team is winning another game this year. They don’t even have a shot week 18 against Baltimore backups. The worst part is that there is no easy fix to this mess. They have major holes almost everywhere and their coaching staff is no good.

They are going to be really bad for a while I'm afraid. Their offense & Defense both suck but the coaches are worse. They are really a bottom 3 to 5 team.

 

[irish eyes]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

 

[irish eyes]

Need Center and QB. Kind of important positions.

They will probably draft a RB or WR in the 1st round next year

 

[karl.Racki]

Trade Tomlin for a draft pick

 

[JohnnyU]

Trade Tomlin for a draft pick

They would probably decide to punt.

 

[karl.Racki]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

Thing is, Steelers haven't fired a head coach since Richard Nixon became President (1968)... I just don't see them firing him after his first losing season.

 

[irish eyes]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

Thing is, Steelers haven't fired a head coach since Richard Nixon became President (1968)... I just don't see them firing him after his first losing season.

Oh I know they won't. And the misery will continue for years because he doesn't have a clue.

 

[3C's]

The only way Tomlin leaves is if HE decides it's time for a change.

 

[HellToupee]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

Thing is, Steelers haven't fired a head coach since Richard Nixon became President (1968)... I just don't see them firing him after his first losing season.

Maybe Tomlin feels like he needs a break after this season

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Start mason. Move Jones to LT. Start Chuks. Start Herbig at C.

 

[fred_1_15301]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

Thing is, Steelers haven't fired a head coach since Richard Nixon became President (1968)... I just don't see them firing him after his first losing season.

Maybe Tomlin feels like he needs a break after this season

That’s a possibility. I mean the guy has a great reputation around the league. Why would he want to stay with this sinking ship? We know he will get a job in a heartbeat.

 

[irish eyes]

The only way Tomlin leaves is if HE decides it's time for a change.

And what a shame that is. He is awful.

 

[irish eyes]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

Thing is, Steelers haven't fired a head coach since Richard Nixon became President (1968)... I just don't see them firing him after his first losing season.

Maybe Tomlin feels like he needs a break after this season

That’s a possibility. I mean the guy has a great reputation around the league. Why would he want to stay with this sinking ship? We know he will get a job in a heartbeat.

He is steering the sinking ship. Would gladly let someone else have the king of press conferences

 

[H8fulHuck]

Done believing the current coaches can adapt. AFC wide open if the team came together. Big missed opportunity.

Huge changes on the horizon. Time to focus on the future

 

[irish eyes]

Done believing the current coaches can adapt. AFC wide open if the team came together. Big missed opportunity.

Huge changes on the horizon. Time to focus on the future

I'd be shocked if any changes were made. Ownership has put up with this nonsense for so long, nothing is going to change

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

So when does Tomlin get fired? Guy blows

Oh how some of us wish. But some delusional people think he's a good coach, and it's apparent those are the ones that don't actually watch games.

Thing is, Steelers haven't fired a head coach since Richard Nixon became President (1968)... I just don't see them firing him after his first losing season.

Maybe Tomlin feels like he needs a break after this season

That’s a possibility. I mean the guy has a great reputation around the league. Why would he want to stay with this sinking ship? We know he will get a job in a heartbeat.

He is steering the sinking ship. Would gladly let someone else have the king of press conferences

Except my understanding is he didn’t want to draft KP in the first, and he wanted to bench him a few weeks ago, but Rooney forced KP on him.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Start mason. Move Jones to LT. Start Chuks. Start Herbig at C.

They'd probably be just as far ahead with Nick playing C at this point.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Except my understanding is he didn’t want to draft KP in the first, and he wanted to bench him a few weeks ago, but Rooney forced KP on him.

If that is really true, and I know it's been reported from a few sources ever since Pickett was drafted, then Mike may wind up being the one to "file for divorce", as it were.

That all said, he's the guy who has chosen to continue to try and play 1990's football in an era where passing is ridiculously rewarded/defense is punished. Why he ever thought that had a hope of working out long-term remains...let's call it "frustrating."

 

[belljr]

I said 3 weeks ago they won't win another game.....let's do it

 

[Steeler]

Mark Madden tweeted that the Steelers have had 6 consecutive seasons with a 3 game losing streak. Is that bad?

 

[irish eyes]

Except my understanding is he didn’t want to draft KP in the first, and he wanted to bench him a few weeks ago, but Rooney forced KP on him.

If that is really true, and I know it's been reported from a few sources ever since Pickett was drafted, then Mike may wind up being the one to "file for divorce", as it were.

That all said, he's the guy who has chosen to continue to try and play 1990's football in an era where passing is ridiculously rewarded/defense is punished. Why he ever thought that had a hope of working out long-term remains...let's call it "frustrating."

This downward spiral started well before Pickett. I guess multiple losing seasons will be the only way anything happens.

 

[Steeler]

I know none of this is going to happen, but lets speculate on what we would do if we had control of the team. I'll start with some thoughts:

Trade Tomlin, if that doesn't work fire him and the entire staff
Hire an offensive minded head coach in his place
Trade Watt for multiple first round picks + whatever else you can get (unfortunately for us, and him, the Steelers aren't going to turn things around before he gets too old)
Trade M. Fitzpatrick
Manage the cap and get rid of all the older/expensive players

 

[McBokonon]

Diontae showing pure heart here: https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1728848323061444983?s=46

Straight up heart from Pickens here: https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1736164425629884851

 

[irish eyes]

I know none of this is going to happen, but lets speculate on what we would do if we had control of the team. I'll start with some thoughts:

Trade Tomlin, if that doesn't work fire him and the entire staff
Hire an offensive minded head coach in his place
Trade Watt for multiple first round picks + whatever else you can get (unfortunately for us, and him, the Steelers aren't going to turn things around before he gets too old)
Trade M. Fitzpatrick
Manage the cap and get rid of all the older/expensive players

I like your thinking but we couldn't be that fortunate.