2024 College Football Thread: Ohio State advances to play unbeaten hypothetical SEC team (7 Viewers)

[Moe.]

I think this should end the "we are SEC so our 3 loss teams should get in because we have such hard schedules and because if our name recognition" crap

When you say this - do you mean the results from this year’s postseason, or something else?

 

[Moe.]

NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

 

[Moe.]

The problem is that if the NIL becomes the GDP of some nations, that money has to be sustained. All thru donations. There's nothing coming back. It's not an investment like a pro team.

Are there really people so so rich at every school that 10-20-50 million a year is nothing. Plus all the coach buyouts that come along? Ewers is asking 8-15. Alone. For four more years. That's a **** ton of money for a mid QB. But here we are.

Good point. I mean how many stinking rich guys are going to keep writing checks with nothing back? It has to shift more in the future towards the top guys actually doing advertising or something of value for companies that are writing checks.

Or the paychecks need to be written by people who get revenue due to the product - the schools.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Watching all of the BIG/PAC honks in here crow about how awesome their conferences are after years of saying the SEC honks are nuts, is pure comedic gold.
Also love all of the ESPN/SEC bias stuff that comes off like a Twitter post about vaccines. The SEC boogeyman isn't coming to get you this year, so maybe just enjoy your success.

As ND fan I have easily admitted in the last couple of decades the SEC was the standard. I don't think that is the case anymore moving forward. The transfer portal has blown that up to an extent. Before, Alabama could recruit a full class of 5 and 4 stars out of HS. Promise them the world and when they get there find out they are third string. You could recruit on winning, program name and reputation and stack talent on talent. Now, you go to Bama and are sitting behind someone... portal and they are gone. Then Bama has to convince someone that they are going to come in and start like every other D1 program is doing.

For ND and other top academic schools, this also evens the field from before where you might not get a kid that has the grades out of HS but a kid goes to another school and is doing well can transfer in easier and make the standard because they have shown that they can do the college athlete thing. Sure, they aren't going to recruit a kid from Bama who is reading at a 10th grade level but it opens up a lot more players to them.

It also makes it easier for those schools to plug holes when they arise, but agree on the end result.

I'm mostly still torn on the transfer portal. I think it's likely a net positive, but I hope they iron out some things going forward. Certainly the timing relative to Bowl season could be improved. But current configuration also seems completely incompatible with the stated "not used for pay-for-play" requirement. I'm not sure how/if that ever changes, but it seems inconsistent with having players migrate to the schools who have alumni with the deepest pockets.

And while I'm never looking for excuses to praise anything going on at AN Ohio university, I at least enjoy the crafted narrative that Caleb Downs didn't decide to go there until his 3 hour long session with Knowles. Mad respect for that kid and his abilities, regardless of what he might be getting paid.

 

[General Malaise]

NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

Alabama and other SEC schools were also the king of the bagman for decades. They could hand off sacks of cash to kids nearby and got a head start on handshake deals between businesses (car dealerships) and players. The press largely left this alone because hey, who hates winning?

Now that it's all out in the open and above board, yeah, the poorest states in the nation are going to struggle to compete.

My 2 cents

 

[culdeus]

The problem is that if the NIL becomes the GDP of some nations, that money has to be sustained. All thru donations. There's nothing coming back. It's not an investment like a pro team.

Are there really people so so rich at every school that 10-20-50 million a year is nothing. Plus all the coach buyouts that come along? Ewers is asking 8-15. Alone. For four more years. That's a **** ton of money for a mid QB. But here we are.

Good point. I mean how many stinking rich guys are going to keep writing checks with nothing back? It has to shift more in the future towards the top guys actually doing advertising or something of value for companies that are writing checks.

Yeah but isn't the single only law on the books is that you can't really do this on a nationwide level, limited to local TV and billboards?

 

[Desert_Power]

NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

Just imagine how bad it would be if states dismantled some of the laws protecting physical car dealerships from competition.

 

[culdeus]

NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

Alabama and other SEC schools were also the king of the bagman for decades. They could hand off sacks of cash to kids nearby and got a head start on handshake deals between businesses (car dealerships) and players. The press largely left this alone because hey, who hates winning?

Now that it's all out in the open and above board, yeah, the poorest states in the nation are going to struggle to compete.

My 2 cents

What realistic level of cash was dropped by Bama 5 years ago? 50k for a 5*? Are they simply priced out at this point?

What was driving the upper limit then? Worry that the kids mom would get caught driving a Lexus or something?

 

[3C's]

Why is no one talking about the North Texas-Texas State game?!

Not expecting much from it but maybe it'll be more interesting than some of the recent blowouts.

 

[Chadstroma]

I think this should end the "we are SEC so our 3 loss teams should get in because we have such hard schedules and because if our name recognition" crap

When you say this - do you mean the results from this year’s postseason, or something else?

This season. Couldn’t stand the Bama or Ope Miss "we should be in even though we lost 3 games" crap

 

[Moe.]

NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

Alabama and other SEC schools were also the king of the bagman for decades. They could hand off sacks of cash to kids nearby and got a head start on handshake deals between businesses (car dealerships) and players. The press largely left this alone because hey, who hates winning?

Now that it's all out in the open and above board, yeah, the poorest states in the nation are going to struggle to compete.

My 2 cents

Yeah, exactly. It’s more culturally important in the south, so people were more likely to skirt the rules and it was an advantage. That advantage is gone.

 

[Chadstroma]

NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

I mean... yes and no.

If you think about it and follow this through that means the ivy league schools should have the best teams because they are easily the most monied up alumni. But how many Harvard or Princeton grads give a crap about their football programs?

The well can't be dry but you still need someone willing to go pull the bucket up.

 

[Moe.]

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NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

I mean... yes and no.

If you think about it and follow this through that means the ivy league schools should have the best teams because they are easily the most monied up alumni. But how many Harvard or Princeton grads give a crap about their football programs?

The well can't be dry but you still need someone willing to go pull the bucket up.

Right, you need a balance between money and desire, and a willingness from the school to admit whoever. Not all of those are there for the Ivies. I’m mostly comparing the giant public schools in the South to the giant public schools in the rest of the country.

However - The Ivy League is going to play in the FCS tourney now I think. Wouldn’t shock me if a few rich Harvard alums decide they’d like to win that thing. I would assume Harvard doesn’t relax admission standards for athletes though, so might have an issue there.

 

[Chadstroma]

Watching all of the BIG/PAC honks in here crow about how awesome their conferences are after years of saying the SEC honks are nuts, is pure comedic gold.
Also love all of the ESPN/SEC bias stuff that comes off like a Twitter post about vaccines. The SEC boogeyman isn't coming to get you this year, so maybe just enjoy your success.

As ND fan I have easily admitted in the last couple of decades the SEC was the standard. I don't think that is the case anymore moving forward. The transfer portal has blown that up to an extent. Before, Alabama could recruit a full class of 5 and 4 stars out of HS. Promise them the world and when they get there find out they are third string. You could recruit on winning, program name and reputation and stack talent on talent. Now, you go to Bama and are sitting behind someone... portal and they are gone. Then Bama has to convince someone that they are going to come in and start like every other D1 program is doing.

For ND and other top academic schools, this also evens the field from before where you might not get a kid that has the grades out of HS but a kid goes to another school and is doing well can transfer in easier and make the standard because they have shown that they can do the college athlete thing. Sure, they aren't going to recruit a kid from Bama who is reading at a 10th grade level but it opens up a lot more players to them.

It also makes it easier for those schools to plug holes when they arise, but agree on the end result.

I'm mostly still torn on the transfer portal. I think it's likely a net positive, but I hope they iron out some things going forward. Certainly the timing relative to Bowl season could be improved. But current configuration also seems completely incompatible with the stated "not used for pay-for-play" requirement. I'm not sure how/if that ever changes, but it seems inconsistent with having players migrate to the schools who have alumni with the deepest pockets.

And while I'm never looking for excuses to praise anything going on at AN Ohio university, I at least enjoy the crafted narrative that Caleb Downs didn't decide to go there until his 3 hour long session with Knowles. Mad respect for that kid and his abilities, regardless of what he might be getting paid.

The portal has to have better timing 100% without question.

The good teams are being penalized for playing deep into the playoffs while the losers are free to pick their players off.

The NFL FA is a model. A window of nothing is allowed... after bowl season is over, you can declare. No offers made or accepted after the window opens.

 

[Chadstroma]

The problem is that if the NIL becomes the GDP of some nations, that money has to be sustained. All thru donations. There's nothing coming back. It's not an investment like a pro team.

Are there really people so so rich at every school that 10-20-50 million a year is nothing. Plus all the coach buyouts that come along? Ewers is asking 8-15. Alone. For four more years. That's a **** ton of money for a mid QB. But here we are.

Good point. I mean how many stinking rich guys are going to keep writing checks with nothing back? It has to shift more in the future towards the top guys actually doing advertising or something of value for companies that are writing checks.

Yeah but isn't the single only law on the books is that you can't really do this on a nationwide level, limited to local TV and billboards?

That I don't know

 

[Moe.]

UGA, Texas, and Florida would be the schools I’d expect to be the marquee schools in the SEC if the current model holds, which I think we all know it won’t.

 

[General Malaise]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

 

[SFBayDuck]

What else is Phil Knight going to spend his billions on? All the good space exploration names are taken.

I'll take some money, Phil....

Swoosh Space!

He did donate $500MM for cancer research at OHSU and they just named a hospital wing after him and Penny.

Think he also has a nifty college hoops tournament named after himself.

Guy is spreading it around.

Don't forget about

• A big part of the $27M for the '94 renovation of the The U of O library, known since as Knight Library
• $25M for a new law school building and 27 endowed chairs
• $100M for athletic legacy fund and to help build Matthew Knight Arena
• $42M towards a student-athlete academic and tutoring center
• The "lead sponsor" involved in the $270M rebuild of Hayward Field
• The Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerating Scientific Impact currently in phase 2 ($1B across the two phases) which coordinates with OHSU and the Knight Cancer Institute.

And it's not just the U of O:

• $400M to Stanford
• $400M investment to revamp historically black neighborhoods in Portland
• He even donated to Oregon State to help with Reser Stadium renovations and to keep their baseball coach from being poached back in the early 2000s.

Yeah, he's spreading it around alright.

 

[Chadstroma]

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NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

I mean... yes and no.

If you think about it and follow this through that means the ivy league schools should have the best teams because they are easily the most monied up alumni. But how many Harvard or Princeton grads give a crap about their football programs?

The well can't be dry but you still need someone willing to go pull the bucket up.

Right, you need a balance between money and desire, and a willingness from the school to admit whoever. Not all of those are there for the Ivies. I’m mostly comparing the giant public schools in the South to the giant public schools in the rest of the country.

However - The Ivy League is going to play in the FCS tourney now I think. Wouldn’t shock me if a few rich Harvard alums decide they’d like to win that thing. I would assume Harvard doesn’t relax admission standards for athletes though, so might have an issue there.

The admission standards are not much different from a ND, Stanford, Duke, etc.

One big reason for their lagging was that the Ivy League schools do not offer athletic scholarships. (Which is ridiculous since their endowments are huge)

If there was the desire then there is the money that "who cares about paying tuition when I am getting a million in NIL" but I just don’t think the alumni give a care much at all.

 

[Moe.]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Well yeah, but Aggies don’t really count as normal people

 

[General Malaise]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Well yeah, but Aggies don’t really count as normal people

You know what you'll find inside an Aggie's nose, right?


Fingerprints.


I'll see myself out.

 

[culdeus]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Thing is when they did it there were a lot of schools that were like... maybe we shouldn't do this. And the kids they pulled in were on the edge of the hot/crazy matrix if it existed for college players. The vast majortity of them didn't even play, anywhere. Took the money and ran.

Now you have some pretty mid qbs getting millions to stay on, but as long as they don't have agents we are cool, right? And the kids have to play in the pop tart bowl to get paid.

 

[Skipdog77]

THE big Penn State vs. Notre Dame game is on tonight!

(Men's hockey, on the outdoor rink at Wrigley...puck drops in about 30 mins, on BIG10 Network)

LET'S GOOOO

 

[Moe.]

Looking at these NCAAB rankings/schedules for the first time, the SEC is a basketball conference now, holy crap. OU needs to go back to the Big 12.

 

[Instinctive]

What else is Phil Knight going to spend his billions on? All the good space exploration names are taken.

I'll take some money, Phil....

Swoosh Space!

He did donate $500MM for cancer research at OHSU and they just named a hospital wing after him and Penny.

Think he also has a nifty college hoops tournament named after himself.

Guy is spreading it around.

Don't forget about

• A big part of the $27M for the '94 renovation of the The U of O library, known since as Knight Library
• $25M for a new law school building and 27 endowed chairs
• $100M for athletic legacy fund and to help build Matthew Knight Arena
• $42M towards a student-athlete academic and tutoring center
• The "lead sponsor" involved in the $270M rebuild of Hayward Field
• The Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerating Scientific Impact currently in phase 2 ($1B across the two phases) which coordinates with OHSU and the Knight Cancer Institute.

And it's not just the U of O:

• $400M to Stanford
• $400M investment to revamp historically black neighborhoods in Portland
• He even donated to Oregon State to help with Reser Stadium renovations and to keep their baseball coach from being poached back in the early 2000s.

Yeah, he's spreading it around alright.

Yeah I was gonna say he bought the naming rights to my campus. My MBA is from the Stanford Graduate School of Business, at the Knight Management Center.

Bout as close as you get to naming rights for the school without actually selling the naming rights for the school. (Something HBS and GSB will never do)

 

[Instinctive]

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NIL being what it is will put poorer states at a huge disadvantage. Places like Oklahoma and Alabama will not be able to compete - there just isn’t enough money in those states. “It Just Means More” was a dumb slogan but it was true. The reason the SEC has been so good this century is because college football is more important in that part of the country. Now that it’s a money thing, The Big 10 ought to be able to outpace the SEC.

I mean... yes and no.

If you think about it and follow this through that means the ivy league schools should have the best teams because they are easily the most monied up alumni. But how many Harvard or Princeton grads give a crap about their football programs?

The well can't be dry but you still need someone willing to go pull the bucket up.

Right, you need a balance between money and desire, and a willingness from the school to admit whoever. Not all of those are there for the Ivies. I’m mostly comparing the giant public schools in the South to the giant public schools in the rest of the country.

However - The Ivy League is going to play in the FCS tourney now I think. Wouldn’t shock me if a few rich Harvard alums decide they’d like to win that thing. I would assume Harvard doesn’t relax admission standards for athletes though, so might have an issue there.

The admission standards are not much different from a ND, Stanford, Duke, etc.

One big reason for their lagging was that the Ivy League schools do not offer athletic scholarships. (Which is ridiculous since their endowments are huge)

If there was the desire then there is the money that "who cares about paying tuition when I am getting a million in NIL" but I just don’t think the alumni give a care much at all.

FWIW Stanford slightly lowers for football and basically refused to lower for us in basketball. For the example, Justice Winslow went to Duke because Stanford wouldn't admit him.

I'd say the Ivies admission standards generally far exceed ND and Duke at the UG level. Or, at least, HYP certainly do.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Was that Mayo Bowl victory PJ Flecks biggest win?

 

[General Malaise]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Thing is when they did it there were a lot of schools that were like... maybe we shouldn't do this. And the kids they pulled in were on the edge of the hot/crazy matrix if it existed for college players. The vast majortity of them didn't even play, anywhere. Took the money and ran.

Now you have some pretty mid qbs getting millions to stay on, but as long as they don't have agents we are cool, right? And the kids have to play in the pop tart bowl to get paid.

Has a&m produced a legit NFL player since Myles Garrett? Their last 1st round pick has been an NFL bust.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Why is no one talking about the North Texas-Texas State game?!

Not expecting much from it but maybe it'll be more interesting than some of the recent blowouts.

FWIW - NT QB, Mestemaker, was the backup but got the start because the QB1 is in the transfer portal. Mestemaker had a great game. He is from our high school (Vandegrift) in Austin. This was his first start since high school freshman "B" team. Last year he was the varsity QB2 due to Duece Adams transferring in (Duece was QB2 at Louisville this year. Miles Coleman, also a true freshman was also from Vandegrift. Miles is extremely fast (WR,RB,punt return) but is small. Miles had a good game also with 100+ yards and a TD.

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[Bob Sacamano]

What else is Phil Knight going to spend his billions on? All the good space exploration names are taken.

I'll take some money, Phil....

Swoosh Space!

He did donate $500MM for cancer research at OHSU and they just named a hospital wing after him and Penny.

Think he also has a nifty college hoops tournament named after himself.

Guy is spreading it around.

Don't forget about

• A big part of the $27M for the '94 renovation of the The U of O library, known since as Knight Library
• $25M for a new law school building and 27 endowed chairs
• $100M for athletic legacy fund and to help build Matthew Knight Arena
• $42M towards a student-athlete academic and tutoring center
• The "lead sponsor" involved in the $270M rebuild of Hayward Field
• The Phil and Penny Knight Campus for Accelerating Scientific Impact currently in phase 2 ($1B across the two phases) which coordinates with OHSU and the Knight Cancer Institute.

And it's not just the U of O:

• $400M to Stanford
• $400M investment to revamp historically black neighborhoods in Portland
• He even donated to Oregon State to help with Reser Stadium renovations and to keep their baseball coach from being poached back in the early 2000s.

Yeah, he's spreading it around alright.

Somehow he's squeezing by on on his remaining $35 bill

 

[BlackCrowes]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Thing is when they did it there were a lot of schools that were like... maybe we shouldn't do this. And the kids they pulled in were on the edge of the hot/crazy matrix if it existed for college players. The vast majortity of them didn't even play, anywhere. Took the money and ran.

Now you have some pretty mid qbs getting millions to stay on, but as long as they don't have agents we are cool, right? And the kids have to play in the pop tart bowl to get paid.

Has a&m produced a legit NFL player since Myles Garrett? Their last 1st round pick has been an NFL bust.

Achane

 

[3C's]

Why is no one talking about the North Texas-Texas State game?!

Not expecting much from it but maybe it'll be more interesting than some of the recent blowouts.

FWIW - NT QB, Mestemaker, was the backup but got the start because the QB1 is in the transfer portal. Mestemaker had a great game. He is from our high school (Vandegrift) in Austin. This was his first start since high school freshman "B" team. Last year he was the varsity QB2 due to Duece Adams transferring in (Duece was QB2 at Louisville this year. Miles Coleman, also a true freshman was also from Vandegrift. Miles is extremely fast (WR,RB,punt return) but is small. Miles had a good game also with 100+ yards and a TD.

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His rushing TD (right before puking) was pretty sweet. Good game overall and they (NT) made it interesting in the end.

 

[FairWarning]

It is not about the schools anymore, just about the $$$$ paid out.

Ohio State will continue to outspend everyone to get players because for most of the people in Ohio that's all they have. My wife's cousin does not make much money but he puts what little he has in a wicker basket and donates to the OSU NIL fund..he did not even go to school there. The guy literally broke down crying after Michigan beat OSU for the 4th time in a row and was in a total depression.

There are no rules so the NIL is like the wild west right now. Good for the kids, but the game we used to know is gone forever.

Sorry @Summer Wheat, this is a weak take “that’s all they have”. Every fan base has “fanatics” that take things to far, like average guys giving money to NIL and crying when their team loses, not just people in Ohio.

There are multiple schools that are going to be at the top of NIL money spent every year: OSU, Texas, Oregon, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, etc. These schools were brands before NIL and made millions of dollars.

Other schools will join them in this NIL era. I just read about Texas Tech (or some Texas school that is not normally a top program) making a big splash because of two former players that have recently become billionaires or near that.

I wanted to pay the players but not how this has turned out but I doubt it ever gets better.

Did not mean it

It is not about the schools anymore, just about the $$$$ paid out.

Ohio State will continue to outspend everyone to get players because for most of the people in Ohio that's all they have. My wife's cousin does not make much money but he puts what little he has in a wicker basket and donates to the OSU NIL fund..he did not even go to school there. The guy literally broke down crying after Michigan beat OSU for the 4th time in a row and was in a total depression.

There are no rules so the NIL is like the wild west right now. Good for the kids, but the game we used to know is gone forever.

Sorry @Summer Wheat, this is a weak take “that’s all they have”. Every fan base has “fanatics” that take things to far, like average guys giving money to NIL and crying when their team loses, not just people in Ohio.

There are multiple schools that are going to be at the top of NIL money spent every year: OSU, Texas, Oregon, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Michigan, etc. These schools were brands before NIL and made millions of dollars.

Other schools will join them in this NIL era. I just read about Texas Tech (or some Texas school that is not normally a top program) making a big splash because of two former players that have recently become billionaires or near that.

I wanted to pay the players but not how this has turned out but I doubt it ever gets better.

I get it.

It just amazes me that schools now want fans and alumni instead of just buying season tickets and gear now want fans to donate money to buy players. Just picked out OSU because they have spent more money than anyone this season and knowing people that donate who can`t afford it.

Others will catch up until things are regulated if ever.

This is a huge reason why SMU is only going up in football and basketball.

Their main donor for basketball literally told all other donors to do football. He was like "no. Screw y'all. No collective. I got this and I don't want to have to listen to your opinions. It'll be just me and the coaching staff handling it." And they have PLENTY of donors excited to be good at football. It should be reaaallllly interesting.

Sounds like the Pony Express days.

 

[Joe Bryant]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Correct. It's not only money. But you can't succeed for any amount of time without tons of money now.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Thing is when they did it there were a lot of schools that were like... maybe we shouldn't do this. And the kids they pulled in were on the edge of the hot/crazy matrix if it existed for college players. The vast majortity of them didn't even play, anywhere. Took the money and ran.

Now you have some pretty mid qbs getting millions to stay on, but as long as they don't have agents we are cool, right? And the kids have to play in the pop tart bowl to get paid.

Has a&m produced a legit NFL player since Myles Garrett? Their last 1st round pick has been an NFL bust.

Devon Achane?

 

[General Malaise]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Thing is when they did it there were a lot of schools that were like... maybe we shouldn't do this. And the kids they pulled in were on the edge of the hot/crazy matrix if it existed for college players. The vast majortity of them didn't even play, anywhere. Took the money and ran.

Now you have some pretty mid qbs getting millions to stay on, but as long as they don't have agents we are cool, right? And the kids have to play in the pop tart bowl to get paid.

Has a&m produced a legit NFL player since Myles Garrett? Their last 1st round pick has been an NFL bust.

Achane

1,000 yards in 2 NFL seasons. This bar seems rather low, sir. He's good but Bucky Irving has more yards in one season and was a lower drafted player, for example.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

ACC went 2-13 in bowl games. Embarrassing. They ought to cut our allotment in half.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

This Bahamas Bowl, nothing like playing on GilligansIsland. Field is a joke lol

 

[heckmanm]

This Bahamas Bowl, nothing like playing on GilligansIsland. Field is a joke lol

Oooof

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

This Bahamas Bowl, nothing like playing on GilligansIsland. Field is a joke lol

Oooof

That fields time of death was 11:20 AM EST

I think the field is the fairway for the par 5 of the municipal golf course. Not very stringent on the repair all divots credo.

 

[Nipsey]

Is it just me or has religious talk by college football players and coaches grown significantly in the last couple of years? It seems rare to see an interview where a player doesn’t mention God. Today, the Buffalo Liberty coach is wearing a shirt that says "Jesus Wins" on it. At this rate some schools might replace their cheerleaders with gospel choirs. What’s the psychology behind this? Is it that players and coaches feel they’ll be seen as less virtuous if they don’t consistently bring it up or express it in unique ways? Or has it become a cultural expectation in the sport? I’m genuinely curious.

 

[Desert_Power]

This Bahamas Bowl, nothing like playing on GilligansIsland. Field is a joke lol

Oooof

Should have moved it to Charlotte again

 

[Desert_Power]

Today, the Buffalo coach is wearing a shirt that says "Jesus Wins" on it

That's the Liberty coach which makes since as they are a religious school.

 

[Nipsey]

Today, the Buffalo coach is wearing a shirt that says "Jesus Wins" on it

That's the Liberty coach which makes since as they are a religious school.

My bad. I thought it was Buffalo. Still, seems a bit odd.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Hell of a year, 9-4 and a bowl win for Pete Lembo's first season. The future looks bright.

 

[Yo Mama]

This Bahamas Bowl, nothing like playing on GilligansIsland. Field is a joke lol

Reminds me of an away CONCACAF game for the US.

 

[Desert_Power]

Looking at these NCAAB rankings/schedules for the first time, the SEC is a basketball conference now, holy crap. OU needs to go back to the Big 12.

Was looking for a game to catch one Saturday this winter and wondering how all of these teams are ranked.

 

[kupcho1]

What’s the psychology behind this? Is it that players and coaches feel they’ll be seen as less virtuous if they don’t consistently bring it up or express it in unique ways? Or has it become a cultural expectation in the sport?

I believe they think it gives them a competitive advantage.

 

[Desert_Power]

Sad stuff, Kirby Smart's dad died after the game from complications following a fall that day: https://www.espn.com/college-footba...art-father-georgia-coach-dies-sugar-bowl-fall

 

[culdeus]

A&M has more money than several SEC teams combined. They've actively tried to put that money to work and have failed miserably. It's not JUST money.

Thing is when they did it there were a lot of schools that were like... maybe we shouldn't do this. And the kids they pulled in were on the edge of the hot/crazy matrix if it existed for college players. The vast majortity of them didn't even play, anywhere. Took the money and ran.

Now you have some pretty mid qbs getting millions to stay on, but as long as they don't have agents we are cool, right? And the kids have to play in the pop tart bowl to get paid.

Has a&m produced a legit NFL player since Myles Garrett? Their last 1st round pick has been an NFL bust.

Achane

1,000 yards in 2 NFL seasons. This bar seems rather low, sir. He's good but Bucky Irving has more yards in one season and was a lower drafted player, for example.

This may play in some teams favor. Would rather have a 8th year senior under contract that couldn't get a rookie deal.