Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Good, was hoping it would not be a slop fest.
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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 Draft, FAs, trades? (5 Viewers)
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Good, was hoping it would not be a slop fest.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Indeed - last year it was 12 personnel on 4th and inches, this year also two TE on 3rd and 1.
I don’t know Ben Johnson’s terminology but it’s a pretty standard TE leak left, it’s a very simple play which literally every team has in their playbook.
The X WR on the left runs a sail to clear out the defenders, LaPorta is in motion from left to right and appears to be the primary. The inline TE on the right side engages his block and then leaks across to the left flat area. It’s play action to Monty, and everything appears to be setting up for a short pass to the right side.
Against the Jets Wright went about 30 yards before any Jets defender is anywhere near, cuts back, 51 yard TD with under two minutes left.
watch the dots - 10.7 yards of separation at point of the catch
Love how Ben runs out of 11 personnel and throws from 12 and 13 personnel. Or shows the same alignment platform, same motion with the same players as an earlier play, but then runs a completely different play,
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Penei Sewell earned a 97.5 run blocking grade on Sunday’s divisional round matchup with the Buccaneers
The highest grade given to any offensive lineman in PFF history
The highest grade given to any offensive lineman in PFF history
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jared was born and raised about an hour north of Santa Clara, the site of Levi’s Stadium. His birth place, parents house and high school are all within a few miles of each other; same place his dad (12 years in the minor leagues, parts of 6 years with 3 MLB teams) grew up. Went to Cal-Berkeley, across the Bay from San Francisco - a 40 minute drive home. Wears 16 bc Montana was his favorite player as a kid.
The redemption arc is coming full circle.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
For anyone familiar with D12, this is a good gem I just came across: https://www.tiktok.com/@shadyverse/video/7324485971020434734
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Goff during his call in segment on 97.1 today
“Does bulletin board material matter to you guys at all?”
Jared: “Depends what it is, whatcha got?”
“Skip Bayless after your game tweeted out..”
Jared cuts him off: “No I don’t care about anything he said.”
“Does bulletin board material matter to you guys at all?”
Jared: “Depends what it is, whatcha got?”
“Skip Bayless after your game tweeted out..”
Jared cuts him off: “No I don’t care about anything he said.”
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
All 22 Films Jahmyr Gibbs v Bucs
Electrified the Lions Offense in the Divisional Round - Playoff Film Study
All 22 Films Detroit’s Safeties
Detroit’s Newest Cobra’s - How Ifeatu Melifonwu and Brian Branch Blitzed Tampa Bay
Electrified the Lions Offense in the Divisional Round - Playoff Film Study
All 22 Films Detroit’s Safeties
Detroit’s Newest Cobra’s - How Ifeatu Melifonwu and Brian Branch Blitzed Tampa Bay
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
According to Dave Birkett, Alex Anzalone fractured three ribs during the Lions’ week 18 victory over the Vikings.
He has played the past two games with the injury, and even led the team in tackles in the wild card round against the Rams.
He has played the past two games with the injury, and even led the team in tackles in the wild card round against the Rams.
brian98
Footballguy
What the heck was Cam Sutton doing this week? "peaking" in the backfield is one thing, but he was disregarding Evan's route and staring at Mayfield at least three times that I saw. One resulted in Evans making a catch with Cam's MxM coverage at least 10 yards away! Does he always play this way? so frustrating watching repeated wide open/ poor coverage. Can/should this be fixed?
thoughts, @BobbyLayne ?
Iffy has been huge. Branch has been huge too. Those two are tackling machines and can bring the pressure when needed. We are still getting crappy CB play, but when we do get a defensive stop, it is almost always because of a play by Iffy, Branch or Hutch.
Penei is an absolute beast. I think next season the consensus will agree he is the best offensive lineman in football.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Who knows. JJ x2, Lamb, Puka & Evans is quite the gauntlet. Obviously he’s struggling but IDK how much of that is Kerby not rolling over. It does seem like he’s being too aggressive, especially on short yardage where they have him isolated. But CB is viewed pretty harshly by casuals. You see the end result without actually knowing what coverage was called.
Not sure what the alternative is bc he’s still their best outside corner. I think Branch is their best coverage DB and CJGJ & Melifonwu are also playing at a high level. But none of them can play outside.
What they’ve been trying to do the past six weeks is disguising their fronts and mixing up the coverages. They’ve gotten outstanding production from Iffy & BB blitzing + Hutch is on a tear. They’re still a good run D but they play an aggressive style that is prone to giving up chunk plays.
They’ve only given up 127 points over the last 6 games, always between 17 and 24 points. With their offense that’s more than adequate; 5 wins & one robbery over that stretch.
I said back in early December there’s no easy fix, they don’t have the right dudes. Hutch needs someone opposite him and outside we’re very vulnerable. However, I feel like AG has been coaching his butt off. I’m not worried about chunk plays if they’re tough in the red zone where teams have less space.
Typical NFL game has 8-11 possessions, varies due to 3 n outs or turnovers. We have to accept we’ll probably always give up 4-5 scoring drives. If we get 1-2 red zone stops, generate any turnovers, and force 3 punts, that’s enough to control the game flow.
The defense has had some great moments in this playoff run. But it’s always going to rest primarily on 16 having a clean game & the outstanding OL being reliable. Just keep chopping wood & sooner or later 5, 8, 9, 14, 26, or 87 will have an explosive that swings it in our favor.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
The Lions record when Mike Tirico is the play by play announcer*
*according to Tirico & Dery on yesterday's Locked On Lions
Sunday night's game is on Fox (Burkhardt, Olsen)
- NFLN vs Chicago Saturday 12/16/2017, Lions win 20-10
- NBC SNF at Green Bay 1/8/2023, Lions win 20-16
- NBC TNF at Kansas City 9/7/2023 Lions win 21-20
- NBC WC vs Los Angeles Rams 1/14/2024 Lions win 24-23
- NBC DIV vs Tampa Bay 1/21/2024 Lions win 31-23
*according to Tirico & Dery on yesterday's Locked On Lions
Sunday night's game is on Fox (Burkhardt, Olsen)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
35 man roster and they all had off-season jobs
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Super Bowl probabilities for all four remaining NFL teams (PFF)
BALTIMORE RAVENS: 33% TO WIN SUPER BOWL
- The Ravens are projected to go to the Super Bowl 58% of the time.
- They have played the 11th-easiest schedule to date.
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS: 30% TO WIN SUPER BOWL
- The 49ers are projected to go to the Super Bowl 63% of the time.
- They have played the ninth-easiest schedule to date.
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: 23% TO WIN SUPER BOWL
- The Chiefs are projected to go to the Super Bowl 42% of the time.
- They have played the ninth-hardest schedule to date.
DETROIT LIONS: 15% TO WIN SUPER BOWL
- The Lions are projected to go to the Super Bowl 37% of the time.
- They have played the 15th-hardest schedule to date.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dan Campbell is 22-7 .759 since I posed this question
Also, I was totally wrong about Gibbs & LaPorta
FairWarning
Footballguy
There is far more buzz in my area for Det-Sf than the Mich-Wash championship game.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
So was I, happy to eat that crow. Although I am not sure there is a singular person that saw LaPorta’s impact being what it was. Campbell’s start to the job makes this even sweeter. His raw emotion and passion is what gave him a chance to survive the tough start. Even during the losing you could see the difference in the way the team competed, they just needed talent to get over the hump. Thank you Brad Holmes for that.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
That 37% chance of winning the NFC is fairly bullish compared to the betting markets which suggests something closer to 25%. But either way they are still the underdog of the 4 teams.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Well it's all of them, really. Sheila determined they needed to embrace their past, own it, before they could change the culture. The first big move she made was hiring Chris Spielman. Mike Disner (now the COO) is the one who suggested they talk to Brad Holmes. Rod Wood, thankfully, knows to shut up and listen when the grownup football people are talking. It all started with those four because they are the ones who collaboratively made the Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell hires.
They really knocked that out of the park; not only are both of them top shelf at their respective jobs, but they were in sync from Day 1.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I actually bookmarked this thread from a few days before the draft. Went through and read it this morning. All of us (except for Jon who loves everything) thought those first three picks were head scratchers. The only pick we loved was moving up 3 spots to take Brian Branch.
Still can't believe the Packers made that trade with us. Two years in a row making a draft day trade in division.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I actually bookmarked this thread from a few days before the draft. Went through and read it this morning. All of us (except for Jon who loves everything) thought those first three picks were head scratchers. The only pick we loved was moving up 3 spots to take Brian Branch.
Still can't believe the Packers made that trade with us. Two years in a row making a draft day trade in division.
I went though the thread the other day and was laughing.
Gibbs was too small, could not run between the tackles, slips and falls down too easy, drops passes, can`t pass protect, pulled hammy injury prone.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I actually bookmarked this thread from a few days before the draft. Went through and read it this morning. All of us (except for Jon who loves everything) thought those first three picks were head scratchers. The only pick we loved was moving up 3 spots to take Brian Branch.
Still can't believe the Packers made that trade with us. Two years in a row making a draft day trade in division.
I went though the thread the other day and was laughing.
Gibbs was too small, could not run between the tackles, slips and falls down too easy, drops passes, can`t pass protect, pulled hammy injury prone.
I called him an elite kickoff returner
Not quite no one. I predicted the Lions would target Gibbs and LaPorta was my favorite TE. I was excited about the picks and projected pretty darn close for both. Gibbs underperformed mostly due to a slow start.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Damn, Packers fired Barry as DC. Any chance we can convince them to hire others associated with the 0-16 team? Actually, I wouldn't want them to hire Marinelli; he has a pretty good track record as a DC.
Ooh, I got it! There's a certain DC candidate who's in need of a job, since his term as Philly's de facto DC seems to be coming to an end ...
Ooh, I got it! There's a certain DC candidate who's in need of a job, since his term as Philly's de facto DC seems to be coming to an end ...
Chaos34
Footballguy
I love fantasy drafts. Best part of the fantasy season. So with best ball drafting available daily, I do a ton starting in July. Over 100 each of the past two years. So while it isn't documented here, Gibbs was on 80% of those 100+ teams. I loved the pick. I love your OL that much. Was a no brainer at his adp. Otoh, I had exactly 0% LaPorta. You know who said LaPorta was the rare rookie TE who could put up big numbers? Matt Waldman.
During training camp Gibbs was getting some positive buzz. There was a drumbeat suggesting he was gonna play even more than he did, and be a major part of the receiving game. One day one of your beat writers posted a vid of Gibbs motioning wide and beating a CB deep. I'm telling ya the kid ran the most wicked hesitate and go route I've ever seen. In 25 yards he had 10 on the CB. All season I have been waiting to see that play. Sunday would be a good time for it.
During training camp Gibbs was getting some positive buzz. There was a drumbeat suggesting he was gonna play even more than he did, and be a major part of the receiving game. One day one of your beat writers posted a vid of Gibbs motioning wide and beating a CB deep. I'm telling ya the kid ran the most wicked hesitate and go route I've ever seen. In 25 yards he had 10 on the CB. All season I have been waiting to see that play. Sunday would be a good time for it.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Congrats to you if you thought LaPorta would break records, I never would have imagined.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Friend sent me this link: Campbell losing his #### on the sideline during the famous 2002 Giants-49ers playoff game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbGf1BKn2NI&t=888s
2Young2BBald
Footbaldguy
Since the Detroit Dallas Decker Debacle and subsequent Skipper catch when LaPorta got dinged, I've gotta think the are more schemes for a Lion OL to report and be an option on the goal line. I like a few fun long shots with safer bets each week and have bet, on FanDuel, for any OL to score a TD each week of the playoffs so far, with zip so far. I can't give up now and the odds are up to +5000 this weekend (a bet of $10 returns $510 if it hits). I am also going almost all Lions homer this weekend on the fliers with the Detroit D +1000 for a TD and JAMO +430 for a TD.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Megatron is on the St Brown brothers podcast this week
youtu.be
Calvin Johnson Jr: "F***ing Proud" of Lions, Dan Campbell as a player, Favorite WRs, Moss'ing & More
Megatron joins Amon-Ra & Equanimeous St. Brown to discuss the Lions turnaround, playoff push, Dan Campbell, favorite WRs in the NFL and much more.Chapters:0:...
youtu.be
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
The reality is Mike Evans is pretty good. So is Ceedee Lamb. So is Brandon Aiyuk. But the Lions have demonstrated they can let an alpha WR1 have a big game and still find a way to win. Even the Dallas game, they were in a position to win. And in hindsight, maybe it was better they lost. Because we got the Rams instead of the Pack.
The key to winning in SF will be the pass rush. The weak link for the 49ers is pass blocking. Purdy doesn't get sacked a lot but if he can get pressured, he will throw picks. That's money in the bank. Lions need to force at least 2 turnovers.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Amon-Ra revealed on his podcast today Craig wasn’t actually supposed to be on the field for the 4th & 1. On the sideline MCDC said go for it and they called for a 12 package that included Reynolds. But when they huddled up the play that came in was a different package. As St Brown lined up at the X and came in motion he saw white shoes at tailback. He was thinking “wait…Jah & Monty don’t wear white shoes, who’s our running back?”
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TwinTurbo
Footballguy
I was all in on Gibbs. Loved the pick. LaPorta vastly exceeded my expectations.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Reporter: You guys have a lot of stars ...
Jared Goff: "Thank you."
Reporter: ... but maybe not as big of stars as they do ...
Goff: "All right, never mind."
I like salty Jared
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Jared Goff: "Thank you."
Reporter: ... but maybe not as big of stars as they do ...
Goff: "All right, never mind."
I like salty Jared
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
In terms of Holmes picks, I remember being confused more than anything. But I saw enough of his first two drafts to think he probably knew more than me and Mel Kiper COMBINED.
Well, Kiper is -ev so don't be too hard on yourself...
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I didn't like the Gibbs pick, and my concerns aren't necessarily assuaged by his rookie-year performance. The issue with first-round RBs is their longevity, as well as the opportunity cost. Saquon had an unbelievable rookie year but looking back now, it was still probably a mistake to take him second overall (although if the alternative was Darnold, it's hard to argue they gave up much in terms of opportunity cost).
I'm not saying it was a terrible pick, and if they make it to the SB you could say it was worth it regardless of what else happens from here on out. I also have no idea who they would have taken if not for Gibbs. Seems like Christian Gonzalez might have helped, or maybe one of the edge rushers who went in the next few picks. It's also impossible to know whether they would have been as strong at RB if they had just kept Swift, who miraculously managed to stay healthy for an entire season, something he was never able to do in Detroit. I'm just saying that, unlike with LaPorta and Branch, I'm still in a wait-and-see mode with Gibbs
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jaylen-Reeves-Maybin is the HIGHEST graded defensive player of any team in the postseason per PFF
97.2 run defense grade
95.9 overall grade
He’s only played 26 defensive snaps, but the NFC ST Pro Bowler has been elite in his situational package.
Highest PFF Graded LBs since Week 13 (Min. 100 snaps):
1. DET Jalen Reeves-Maybin - 90.1
2. LAR Ernest Jones - 85.2
3. NOR Demario Davis - 83.0
Reeves-Maybin has been impactful playing 10-20 snaps/game since Week 13.
He also ranks 1st with a 95.1 Run Defense Grade in that span.
He’s always been a special teams ace but it’s been great to see him contribute as the 4th linebacker.
97.2 run defense grade
95.9 overall grade
He’s only played 26 defensive snaps, but the NFC ST Pro Bowler has been elite in his situational package.
- SOLO TACKLES 3
- ASSISTS 1
- FORCED FUMBLES 1
- STOPS 2
- SACKS 1
- MISSED TACKLES 0
- PASSER RATING ALLOWED 87.5
Highest PFF Graded LBs since Week 13 (Min. 100 snaps):
1. DET Jalen Reeves-Maybin - 90.1
2. LAR Ernest Jones - 85.2
3. NOR Demario Davis - 83.0
Reeves-Maybin has been impactful playing 10-20 snaps/game since Week 13.
He also ranks 1st with a 95.1 Run Defense Grade in that span.
He’s always been a special teams ace but it’s been great to see him contribute as the 4th linebacker.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Or as Brad Allen calls it, the Detroit Dallas Skipper Debacle
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Goff media appearance today
Seems very confident and self-assured.
Usually there are about 20 beat writers at Lions pressers. This week they have a new podium, new backdrop, and the room is jammed to capacity.
Seems very confident and self-assured.
Usually there are about 20 beat writers at Lions pressers. This week they have a new podium, new backdrop, and the room is jammed to capacity.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Problem with San Fran is they also have Deebo. And CMC. And Kittle.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Well hopefully not Deebo. But I do think Aiyuk will eat unless Glenn comes up with a way to scheme him out. Clearly Sutton can't hang with these guys one-on-one.
CMC scares me as well, obviously. Hopefully they can keep him in check (relatively speaking) as a runner, but he can hurt you so many ways
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@Justin_Rogers
Update from @VividSeats: "Now, Lions fans are projected to take up 22% of Levi's Stadium, up from 18%."
Update from @VividSeats: "Now, Lions fans are projected to take up 22% of Levi's Stadium, up from 18%."
Ilov80s
Footballguy
No Deebo would be MASSIVE. He's a very unique chess piece.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Zero chance Deebo doesn't play IMO, especially since they can't even say what the injury is other than "it hurts".
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