2025 College Football Thread: Lane Kiffin suddenly feels compelled to read morals clause of contract (26 Viewers)

[whoknew]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

 

[Sparky Polastri]

With you whoknew. Disappointing.

 

[General Malaise]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

 

[Phil Elliott]

We're done with the whole "student athlete" notion right? They are rented athletes each season.

There are over 30,000 D1 football players. My impression is the majority probably still qualify as "student-athletes" under any reasonable definition of that term. How much NIL is a back up right guard earning at a MAC or Sun-Belt school? I think the scholarship, room, board and degree is still extremely important for most college football players.

Cletius you nailed it with your comment, my son and I made several visits for football, mostly MAC and FCS schools. Largely these schools pride them on getting players to graduate and make their money through the jobs they can attain via their degrees. Everyone we visited had a requirement of 8-10 hours of study hall per week at the athletic building for all players. Plus the number of support staff to help a player navigate school and sports. I spoke to one player during a tour and he stated to me with the amount of support staff and studying requirements it is nearly impossible for a player to not graduate. If you think about it, all these smaller schools are all very similar, the one thing they pride themselves on is graduation rate and earning potential when players graduate. Obviously, top level division 1 is different where players can move around and be enticed by NIL money.

Not arguing your overall point, which is correct. But as a former D1 athlete, the bolded is a sham at many schools. Study hall is mostly a place for 1) FB and BB players to meet girls that are other athletes or are paid tutors, 2) FB and BB players to have tutors do their work for them, 3) people to sign in and walk out the door (what 80% of us did), and last and least 4) athletes to get real help with their studies. If you are in a non-revenue sport, I'd label the study hall requirement a complete and utter joke and waste of a walk from the dorms. At least that was my experience at two D1 schools.

Good watch with Bob Costa on NIL and the state of college sports today.

Costas wants Congress to step in. He definitely knows about the court cases, right? Why didn't Costas want Congress to step in when the players were being exploited?

That's weird, huh?

Not that part in general, just the part about trying to be a fan now.

NIL was meant for a player to earn some $$$. Hey Saturday morning will you come to my car dealership and sign some pictures for a couple hours for a grand. Things they can make money. Not for some rich donor just to cut checks to buy players. But it is totally the wild west now.

Brian Jones played at Texas in the 90's and is now a commentator for CBS Sports. He was on Sirius/XM Chan 84 College Sports a couple days ago. He was describing when he played you got your money "under the table" (prior to NIL) and he was given a construction job - to go to the construction site and watch the workers. Props to him as he returned to Texas in the early 2000's and got his degree.

 

[bigbottom]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

 

[Sammy3469]

Im pretty sure if one were to dig up past posts around when NIL was 1st being talked about, the posts would go something like:
"They're getting a free education"
"Just stop the bag men"
"My kids would kill for a free ride"
Etc etc etc.

No its flipped. "They should get a piece of the pie", "they've been exploited for years", "its about time they got paid".

Getting the grand prize "free ride" used to be the goal, the dream, its what players strived for. Now what? There's nothing to strive for. Give me what im owed is all I hear. At this point, blow it up and make a minor league system already. Turn college back into College, no outrageous salaries or NIL and let the dudes just go play AAA ball.

There a ton of problems with NIL. One big one is that since football and men's basketball are the revenue drivers, previous to NIL, those sports basically subsidized all the other sports. Now all the resources are being poured back into football and men's basketball. If you don't, then your program will fall behind and if your program falls behind then you are not going to attract the resources to remain competitive. Non-revenue sports are being stressed and some schools are shutting down programs.

As much as I am a fan of football and basketball- I don't like that other sports are getting throttled. Now obviously, this isn't across the board for all schools (I think LSU is known for investing heavily in it's non-revenue sports among others). Sports that have apparently been hit the hardest are track & field/cross country, swim/diving, tennis, golf, and men's volleyball.

Tell that to my friend’s daughter who gets a ridiculous sum of NIL money to play volleyball for a top 20 program on a full ride. There’s NIl money across the programs.

Oh and she’s not there for the “education”.

 

[Sammy3469]

I think a much bigger problem than NIL is the unlimited transfers. Need to figure out a CBA or Fed legislation that gives them ... one free transfer? And then after that, you have to sit a year. Or something like that.

Because right now, everyone is a free agent at all times. Kind of stinks for continuity.

Yep. The original intent of the rule was coaches could jump ship at any time but a student transfer had to sit out an entire season. I think the one free transfer is a good idea

This stuff has to all be collectively bargained or else you fall into issues with the courts. You can’t tell players they can’t leave when coaches are packing their **** all the time.

And then you also run into grad school issues (or ability to stash 5th/6th year “seniors” in them). Folks have to realize how the top programs run these things now. There is a reason a program like Duke can sort of be competitive in football these days and it isn’t because they are winning the recruiting rankings for freshman. They have a truly professionally run NIL staff across all their sports and can pay someone like Mensah 4 million a year.

 

[identikit]

I think a much bigger problem than NIL is the unlimited transfers. Need to figure out a CBA or Fed legislation that gives them ... one free transfer? And then after that, you have to sit a year. Or something like that.

Because right now, everyone is a free agent at all times. Kind of stinks for continuity.

Yep. The original intent of the rule was coaches could jump ship at any time but a student transfer had to sit out an entire season. I think the one free transfer is a good idea

This stuff has to all be collectively bargained or else you fall into issues with the courts. You can’t tell players they can’t leave when coaches are packing their **** all the time.

And then you also run into grad school issues (or ability to stash 5th/6th year “seniors” in them). Folks have to realize how the top programs run these things now. There is a reason a program like Duke can sort of be competitive in football these days and it isn’t because they are winning the recruiting rankings for freshman. They have a truly professionally run NIL staff across all their sports and can pay someone like Mensah 4 million a year.

Pretty sure that I watched a game recently when there was an 8th year player

Thinking it was good ol' IU

Oy

 

[Max Power]

DJ Lagway entering transfer portal.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25327642-dj-lagway-enters-transfer-portal-what-are-florida-qbs-top-landing-spots

 

[kupcho1]

DJ Lagway entering transfer portal.

Meh. I prefer Jazzy Jeff.

 

[bagger]

On the NIL topic, it’s fascinating to see how USC has completely leaned into how the NFL does it basically announcing kids are “re-signing” with them in front of a contract when they’re literally just coming back for another year.

Trojan Blade on YouTube does a great piece on this.

It’s definitely gone too far the other way in my eyes but doubt that ever gets put back in the bottle again.

 

[Manster]

Im pretty sure if one were to dig up past posts around when NIL was 1st being talked about, the posts would go something like:
"They're getting a free education"
"Just stop the bag men"
"My kids would kill for a free ride"
Etc etc etc.

No its flipped. "They should get a piece of the pie", "they've been exploited for years", "its about time they got paid".

Getting the grand prize "free ride" used to be the goal, the dream, its what players strived for. Now what? There's nothing to strive for. Give me what im owed is all I hear. At this point, blow it up and make a minor league system already. Turn college back into College, no outrageous salaries or NIL and let the dudes just go play AAA ball.

There a ton of problems with NIL. One big one is that since football and men's basketball are the revenue drivers, previous to NIL, those sports basically subsidized all the other sports. Now all the resources are being poured back into football and men's basketball. If you don't, then your program will fall behind and if your program falls behind then you are not going to attract the resources to remain competitive. Non-revenue sports are being stressed and some schools are shutting down programs.

As much as I am a fan of football and basketball- I don't like that other sports are getting throttled. Now obviously, this isn't across the board for all schools (I think LSU is known for investing heavily in it's non-revenue sports among others). Sports that have apparently been hit the hardest are track & field/cross country, swim/diving, tennis, golf, and men's volleyball.

Tell that to my friend’s daughter who gets a ridiculous sum of NIL money to play volleyball for a top 20 program on a full ride. There’s NIl money across the programs.

Oh and she’s not there for the “education”.

Which is crazy, because these programs lose money for the universities. Must be some big money donors who really love volleyball

 

[General Malaise]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

Upon losing out to Mendoza, Pavia took to the socials and said "F*** all the Voters" and then went to an after party with a sign saying "F*** Indiana". Important to note he's apologized for both.

But man, between that and his brother getting arrested for public intoxication at the Tenn game where his family refused to vacate the first row railing at Tenn's stadium and some of the boorish behavior I've seen from the mom, it's a circus show over there. I would like to party with them, though.

 

[bigbottom]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

Upon losing out to Mendoza, Pavia took to the socials and said "F*** all the Voters" and then went to an after party with a sign saying "F*** Indiana". Important to note he's apologized for both.

But man, between that and his brother getting arrested for public intoxication at the Tenn game where his family refused to vacate the first row railing at Tenn's stadium and some of the boorish behavior I've seen from the mom, it's a circus show over there. I would like to party with them, though.

Wow, seems like a classy guy.

 

[General Malaise]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

Upon losing out to Mendoza, Pavia took to the socials and said "F*** all the Voters" and then went to an after party with a sign saying "F*** Indiana". Important to note he's apologized for both.

But man, between that and his brother getting arrested for public intoxication at the Tenn game where his family refused to vacate the first row railing at Tenn's stadium and some of the boorish behavior I've seen from the mom, it's a circus show over there. I would like to party with them, though.

Wow, seems like a classy guy.

Well, ordinarily I'd suggest he's a young college kid prone to doing dumb things, but he's like 37 years old.

 

[massraider]

Raiola and Lagway both entering the portal.

 

[General Malaise]

Raiola and Lagway both entering the portal.

Didn't Lagway have an awful season just completed? What's got everybody hot and bothered about him?

 

[massraider]

Raiola and Lagway both entering the portal.

Didn't Lagway have an awful season just completed? What's got everybody hot and bothered about him?

Is anyone?

I dunno if any school will be giving him top money, but he'll have suitors.

I was really only sharing news of two QBs I've no opinion on him either way.

 

[heckmanm]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

Upon losing out to Mendoza, Pavia took to the socials and said "F*** all the Voters" and then went to an after party with a sign saying "F*** Indiana". Important to note he's apologized for both.

But man, between that and his brother getting arrested for public intoxication at the Tenn game where his family refused to vacate the first row railing at Tenn's stadium and some of the boorish behavior I've seen from the mom, it's a circus show over there. I would like to party with them, though.

WTF are you doing? HE'S A MADE GUY!!!

 

[massraider]

Cincinnati starting quarterback Brendan Sorsby announced Monday that he intends to enter the transfer portal.

Sorsby was one of the most productive quarterbacks in college football this season, responsible for 36 touchdowns, tied for third-most in the FBS. He is also awaiting feedback from the NFL on a potential draft grade and is weighing entering the 2026 NFL Draft. Should he choose to stay in school, Sorsby will be one of the most coveted players in the transfer market.

 

[massraider]

Pavis will be in Toronto this time next year, wearing a F*** the Rough Riders T-Shirt

 

[Max Power]

There is a lot of QB talent available. LSU, Miami and Clemson should be big players.
Raiola
Lagway
Leavitt
Sorsby
Minchey

 

[Chadstroma]

There is a lot of QB talent available. LSU, Miami and Clemson should be big players.
Raiola
Lagway
Leavitt
Sorsby
Minchey

Indiana should be a big player as well.

 

[massraider]

There is a lot of QB talent available. LSU, Miami and Clemson should be big players.
Raiola
Lagway
Leavitt
Sorsby
Minchey

Not to mention all the schools losing those guys lol

 

[General Malaise]

Raiola and Lagway both entering the portal.

Didn't Lagway have an awful season just completed? What's got everybody hot and bothered about him?

Is anyone?

I dunno if any school will be giving him top money, but he'll have suitors.

I was really only sharing news of two QBs I've no opinion on him either way.

Then I don't know what the emoji means after all these years.

 

[Desert_Power]

Pavis will be in Toronto this time next year, wearing a F*** the Rough Riders T-Shirt

He'd be a blast in the XFL before he moves into his car dealership phase.

 

[Sullie]

Pavis will be in Toronto this time next year, wearing a F*** the Rough Riders T-Shirt

He'd be a blast in the XFL before he moves into his car dealership phase.

I feel like his career jet has time for a layover in Cleveland to land on the shirt first before it reaches it's destination in YYZ.

 

[Chadstroma]

Big commit for the Irish. Along with Alston and Terry... it looks like ND will have a strong secondary class for 27:

Raleigh (NC) Cardinal Gibbons Rivals300 2027 cornerback Xavier Hasan has committed to Notre Dame.

The blue-chipper and Rivals No. 4 ranked cornerback and No. 27 prospect overall chose to play for head coach Marcus Freeman and the Irish over Florida State, Ohio State, North Carolina and Tennessee.

 

[identikit]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

Upon losing out to Mendoza, Pavia took to the socials and said "F*** all the Voters" and then went to an after party with a sign saying "F*** Indiana". Important to note he's apologized for both.

But man, between that and his brother getting arrested for public intoxication at the Tenn game where his family refused to vacate the first row railing at Tenn's stadium and some of the boorish behavior I've seen from the mom, it's a circus show over there. I would like to party with them, though.

Sounds Manzielesque

 

[TLEF316]

I love how NOW the Nebraska fans can acknowledge how weird it was that Raiola was cos-playing as Mahomes. SOOOO creepy.

 

[identikit]

I'm a Vanderbilt grad so I appreciate what Pavia did for us, but man his post-Heisman behavior is extremely douchey. He seems like an ***.

His entire family is a master class in how NOT to behave.

I’ve been offline today. Cliff notes?

Upon losing out to Mendoza, Pavia took to the socials and said "F*** all the Voters" and then went to an after party with a sign saying "F*** Indiana". Important to note he's apologized for both.

But man, between that and his brother getting arrested for public intoxication at the Tenn game where his family refused to vacate the first row railing at Tenn's stadium and some of the boorish behavior I've seen from the mom, it's a circus show over there. I would like to party with them, though.

All this crap, plus i think he's too short

 

[Jayded]

Before we get too late into the week, let's hear the playoff picks for the whole bracket. We can naturally go game by game afterwards, but fun to see how people think it'll play out before the games begin...

 

[Desert_Power]

I love how NOW the Nebraska fans can acknowledge how weird it was that Raiola was cos-playing as Mahomes. SOOOO creepy.

Wait till he transfers to Texas Tech.

 

[Jayded]

Round 1:

James Madison @ Oregon - Oregon wins in a laugher
Alabama @ Oklahoma - I hate both offenses and the SEC loves Bama, so disputed ref call sends Bama through. Would rather see OU will and will lol if Bama gets rolled again
Tulane @ Ole Miss - Another stinker no one will watch
Miami @ Texas A&M - Hardest game to pick of the week, but I like Miami's defense against Reed's inaccuracy as the difference

Round 2

Oregon over Texas Tech - I think this game resembles the Texas/AZ State game from last year and is a lot closer than folks realize. I will take Oregon, but not by much and won't be surprised if I'm totally wrong
Indiana over Bama - The revenge of the refs puts the Big Ten team over the top in the Rose Bowl. Indiana continues miracle season on Mendoza end-of-game drive to win
Georgia over Ole Miss - Weis Jr without a decided schematic advantage minus Kiffin finally makes moving arrangements to Baton Rouge
Ohio State over Miami - Might be the best game of the round, but I think this is the game Beck turns back into a pumpkin

Round 3

Indiana over Oregon - This will be a good rematch and I think Indiana keeps its hopes alive provided it has gotten past Bama in the previous round
Georgia over Ohio State - Feels like this could be the heavyweight fight to watch of the entire tournament with Georgia riding its hot streak to a close win

Championship

Georgia over Indiana - This is the round where talent catches up to Indiana. Great season, but I think the Dawgs overwhelm them and take it

 

[General Malaise]

Yeah, I've got a large bet on Georgia +500 winning this all. I think that's the best value out there and they are capable of winning it all.

 

[WDIK2]

I love how NOW the Nebraska fans can acknowledge how weird it was that Raiola was cos-playing as Mahomes. SOOOO creepy.

The majority of us thought it was creepy from the get-go.

I wish Raiola had as much mobility as torn ACL limping to the tunnel Mahomes.

 

[massraider]

Then I don't know what the emoji means after all these years.

I sincerely apologize for misrepresenting my position with the incorrect emoji. I shall endeavor for more accurate emoji use in the future.

 

[General Malaise]

Then I don't know what the emoji means after all these years.

I sincerely apologize for misrepresenting my position with the incorrect emoji. I shall endeavor for more accurate emoji use in the future.

I HAVE TO RETHINK EVERYTHING NOW!!!1111

Jed Phish to Michigan a done deal yet?