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In my opinion you have an axe to grind with Seattle and I don't want to engage you with whatever issues you have there. I think it's silly and a waste of time. My best guess is it developed because of the crazy games Seattle and Green Bay have had in the past. If you want to discuss those issues please do it with someone else in another thread. Thanks for understanding, Dr.
How Detroit executes screens might be the key of the game. It was a really good weapon for them when Riddick was healthy, but since then has been... lacking. As BobbyLayne rightfully pointed out, Stafford won't be afraid to take short throws, as that fits into their existing offense. It's a question of how often they can chain enough of them together, but then again isn't it always?
I'd love to discuss how Wilson is a strength for Seattle when he's been having his worst statistical year of his career
I decided to look it up. Wilson is 14th in passer rating this year, not 21st. Wilson is the same guy he's always been. The cast around him has changed, but he's the same player. He was hampered earlier by injury, but that's not the case now. I have no interest in arguing this with you. dOMERjOHN was way better at this when he made the Shark Pool go crazy telling everyone that Jerry Rice wasn't a HOFer. Now please, let it go?
You responded to massraider and said, "I guess I owe an apology for assuming the worst in this poster." You didn't directly apologize to Hooper. You should treat people better no matter what you assume.
I went to NFL.com and arranged passing leaders by QB rating. I discounted Punters, RBs, and WRs and I got 21... Kirk Cousins is 14
NFL.com is an awful site. Nearly impossible to navigate. Try either of these. He's 14th in passer rating at 92.6
I hope so.
I think Seattle targets Zeitler in FA, but Warford could also be a target. Glowinski and Ifedi have been pretty bad.
good to know. if you look at the names he's around... Tannehill, Alex Smith, Dalton... these are QBS that manage games. Stafford is there too but he's the main reason Detroit is in the playoffs. you can interchange those qbs off each other's teams and not see much of a difference. there are a lot of QBs like Wilson who have come and gone in the league. qbs who manage games well and let their defense win the games.
I recall that being the evaluation of Reiff as NFL prospect as well, that he was projected to be a RT but not a LT. I think that has shown itself to be true.
Lions are building a good core of guys. they have a solid defense in the works, built to withstand injuries. my limited view I'd say of they can land another shut down corner they'd be pretty tough to beat
This is a team game. I dislike the idea of rating QBs by wins. They stand on their own merit IMO. Using his 56-23-1 record as a measure is deceptive even though no other QB has ever posted that many wins in the first five years of his career. Actually, Matt Ryan had 56 as well, but not a tie like Wilson had. Ryan followed up his first five seasons with only 4 and 6 wins. I feel fairly confident that long as Wilson on IR over the next two seasons he'll hold the record for most wins in a six and seven seasons too.
I feel extremely confident as a Lions fan knowing Bob Quinn is running our team and not Matt Millen or Martin Mayhew. The draft was a hit in my opinion with not just locking up our starting LT and DT for the next 8 years in the first two rounds but ALSO a starter on the O-line in Glasgow whether it is LG or C (Swanson played better this season). We're best off letting Reiff walk and signing someone in FA as a priority along with resigning Warford and Boldin. This years drafts first two picks I'm guessing will focus on CB or LB.
yes he had a very good start to his career but he has declined in play this year and even last season to some degree. he's not as good today as he was in his first year or three.
Great point, the 12th man usually comes through with at least a few game changing calls--or no calls--at home.
Earl Thomas has been a great player and a class guy to my recollection. Sort of a Tommy Davis type of guy, but at safety. There are some guys, Darrel Green, Sam Mills, Bruce Mathews who seem to bring stability to their units, to make others better while being beyond solid themselves.
Well he does have mobility, intelligence, and positive playoff experience. Now th experience is an intangible and I know some do not place much stock in such things, me, I do.
I would have guess Caldwell is safe. The Lions overperformed based on talent. This is not a playoff team. But then again there are very few good teams and no great teams, so it is all up in the air at who wins.
I would agree with this. However, a lot of QBs have positive playoff experience. Kaep has positive playoff experience... Wilson's stats are actually not that much better than Kaep's when you look at QB rating and TD:INT ratio. Yes, there are intangibles that do matter in the outcome of a game. I'm just saying if someone asked me what was Seattle's strengths, the first thing out of my mouth wouldn't be Wilson. In fact it'd probably be the 4th or 5th, or I'd consider it a neutrality with a slight edge to Seattle given his experience and command of the offense.
I do not disagree. When playing in Seattle I respect the ability of Wilson. His stats this year may not fully reflect the talent he is, that happens for a variety of reasons. That said, when I worry about Seattle, in Seattle, I think of suffocating, opportunistic, hard hitting defense and communication difficulties associated with crowd noise. For a time I thought of a punishing run game, then Wilson's abilities, not so much anymore on the run game. But I do like what Wilson brings.
I couldn't agree more. You said it a lot better than I ever could.
vs Falcons is a loss, @ Giants is a loss, vs Browns is a win. vs Steelers is probably a loss assuming Big Ben is healthy and Bell hasn't got himself suspended for the year. Past that... let's say 3-3 in the division (Chicago is a mess, Vikes could be contenders if Bridgewater's back to form, and GB is still GB until the wheels fall off Rodgers). Most of the rest of the schedule features teams with at least as many questions as them. As an early guess, it's looking like 7-9/8-8 to me.
Played two games, tore a ligament in his foot. He's been out of a boot for six weeks - I only know that because I follow him on IG.
I think this was quite significant... since it is still quite hush hush that can only mean it's worse than they are letting on. I wouldn't be surprised if Detroit drafted a RB fairly early in this draft. It's a deep RB class and Washington looked meh, Zenner looked awesome, and Abdullah is very questionable IMOPlayed two games, tore a ligament in his foot. He's been out of a boot for six weeks - I only know that because I follow him on IG.
(fashionable kid, plays the guitar - oddly, there's like at least a dozen guitar players on the Lions - and hung out in edgy Brooklyn neighborhoods when they played the Giants)
But like everyone on the Lions, mum on any specifics with respect to his injury.
I would agree with this. Detroit hasn't had a lot to root for in a long time. Of all the other NFC north teams it's the one that I can cheer for and I would like to see them find success. As long as it's not at the expense of my team
You are really underrating Wilson and discounting the injuries he had this year. This guy is a top 10 quarterback in the NFL, the stats don't always tell the whole story. It isn't always easy to have a quarterback and tell him to "Go be the man without being the man" He has been asked to lead this team by letting the defense and running game do the work when he has shown in spurts that he can sling it around the field and win games. He also doesn't have the weapons a lot of other quarterbacks do and maybe he never will.
Yeah it's a weird deal. He saw Dr Robert Anderson early in the week right before Thanksgiving and the reports were the foot is structurally sound, everything went well, etc. He was supposed to resume practice in a couple weeks. Right after that I started seeing pics on his personal IG account of him walking around without the boot. But no indication he ever got close to returning.
I would agree with this. Detroit hasn't had a lot to root for in a long time. Of all the other NFC north teams it's the one that I can cheer for and I would like to see them find success. As long as it's not at the expense of my team
My in-laws have a cabin up there and we have been up there several times. We have talked to the Yoopers up there and the reason they like the Packers more is because their players go up there and do more appearances and charity events than Lions players do and it isn't close. I can't hate on them for liking a team that isn't in their state, when that team that is right next door helps their community a lot more.
Packers still do stuff like that?
In the 15 years my in-laws had that place, they just sold it a little less than a year ago, we went up there probably 20 times. Every time we went out to the bar, or a casino, or seen people on snow mobiles and talked football they would always bring up the Packers, and one of us would always ask why they like the Packers over the Lions and most of them said how the Packers would make more of an effort in their communities then the Lions would. They could be lying and just saying it so we didn't give them crap for rooting for the better team year in and year out.
The Lions do as well - and actually they have a ton of alumni in the area who are also very active - but most of it is confined to the six counties around the D. Most of the state is a bit detached from that.
It doesn't help that the team's taken the Belichick-style approach to injuries. Player has a hangnail? "Check the report" Player needs a cybernetic leg to walk again? "Check the report". See also Riddick going from questionable to out for 3-4 straight weeks before finally being put onto the IR. But yeah, they had some chance to bring him back, and he didn't even seem a priority there, so... easy to guess "not good".
Yeah, I don't think I could root for another NFC North team. Against, sure.... Then again, I'm used to having a second (AFC) team to root for during the Lions' poorer years. For me, this was largely Denver during the Elway years. Now it's mostly fantasy teams, though I'd probably pull for Oakland just because of similar past situations if not for Carr's injury making that seem fruitless.
Once spent a month working in downtown Toledo. That was a long year.
AA is 23 and his rookie deal runs through 2018. Riddick's extension takes him through 2019.Dr. Brew said:
If Abdullah fails to do anything or is hurt again I could see Detroit cutting him and moving on from the last year of his contract. No sense in holding onto him if he's just going to be on the IR or underperform. I admit though when healthy he does look good. I did draft him this year hoping he was this year's Freeman.
