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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 Draft, FAs, trades? (9 Viewers)
- Thread starter Da Guru
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Jamo did exactly what he was told. Goff had to move Jamo around a couple times, but it was by design to set up a play late in the 3rd quarter. On a 3rd and 6th play inside the 10, Goff screaming at Jamo to move ended up being the signal to direct snap to Monty, who took the ball 7 yards for a first down. That is the level of mind games that Ben Johnson utilizes.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Has the same thought. Ben often shows defenses the same personnel same look and then WHAM something they’re totally not expecting bc it’s a play they haven’t run before off that platform.
Or as MCDC put it
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Strength of Schedule after 5 weeks is not especially sticky. In 1-2 months teams will evolve, players will emerge, injuries will take a toll, etc. Just dumb to look at in Week 6.
That said….
A few random teams remaining SOS (1 being hardest)
4. Philadelphia
9. Dallas
10. San Francisco
31. Detroit
That said….
A few random teams remaining SOS (1 being hardest)
4. Philadelphia
9. Dallas
10. San Francisco
31. Detroit
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Maybe Jameson can play some DB and get a few extra reps in.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Through the first five games of the season, every opponent has failed to run for 100 yards against the
Lions.
The last time Detroit did not allow 100 rushing yards in any of the first five games of the season was in 1950.
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For the first time in Lions history, the team has rushed for 100 yards and held opponents under 100 yards rushing in each of the first 5 games of the season.
This is the first time a team has done so in NFL history since 2007.
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Over the last three games, Lions Edge Aidan Hutchinson has combined for 4.5 sacks, 1 INT, 1 FF and 1 FR.
The NFL's last edge player to produce those numbers in a three-game span was James Harrison in 2007.
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The only NFL players to total at least 14.0 sacks and 4 INTs through two-career seasons:
Lions.
The last time Detroit did not allow 100 rushing yards in any of the first five games of the season was in 1950.
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For the first time in Lions history, the team has rushed for 100 yards and held opponents under 100 yards rushing in each of the first 5 games of the season.
This is the first time a team has done so in NFL history since 2007.
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Over the last three games, Lions Edge Aidan Hutchinson has combined for 4.5 sacks, 1 INT, 1 FF and 1 FR.
The NFL's last edge player to produce those numbers in a three-game span was James Harrison in 2007.
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The only NFL players to total at least 14.0 sacks and 4 INTs through two-career seasons:
- Lions Edge Aidan Hutchinson
- Bears HOF LB Brian Urlacher
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I would actually like to see him return kickoffs. That speed would keep special teams coordinators up at night.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Really the only thing concerning right now is that the injuries are piling up.
Was really looking forward to watching Mosely and Johnson this season. I get the bumps and bruises, missing a game here and there but the season enders need to stop.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Sam LaPorta has the same number of touchdowns as Kyle Pitts in his career.
Kyle Pitts was the 4th overall pick in 2021, LaPorta was the 34th pick this year.
Kyle Pitts was the 4th overall pick in 2021, LaPorta was the 34th pick this year.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
All 22 Films (Ravens film breakdown YT channel) has adopted the Lions and is cranking out some incredible content. Former high school defensive coordinator, dude has a firm grasp of concepts but explains it in a low key, accessible manner. You guys gotta check him out.
Just from this week:
Aiden Hutchinson: Detroit’s engine rolls on
Detroit’s first quarter knockout Week 5; how Jared Goff & Ben Johnson took control of the game
Jerry Jacobs Film Study (a must watch)
Just from this week:
Aiden Hutchinson: Detroit’s engine rolls on
Detroit’s first quarter knockout Week 5; how Jared Goff & Ben Johnson took control of the game
Jerry Jacobs Film Study (a must watch)
Moonlight
Footballguy
Lions favored by 3 on the road against a team that is 3-1. Lions have had their issues playing at Tampa Bay and the Bucs will be wearing their throwback creamsicle jerseys.
“Outside Goff” has not been as good as the inside version in the past.
So should be a test as to the legitimacy of the Lions as NFC contenders.
“Outside Goff” has not been as good as the inside version in the past.
So should be a test as to the legitimacy of the Lions as NFC contenders.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lions at Buccaneers practice report: Oct. 11
Detroit Lions| Player | Position | Injury | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday | Game Status |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brian Branch | DB | ankle | NP | |||
| Jahmyr Gibbs | RB | hamstring | NP | |||
| Jonah Jackson | G | ankle | NP | |||
| Zonovan Knight | RB | shoulder | NP | |||
| James Mitchell | TE | hamstring | NP | |||
| Emmanuel Moseley | CB | knee | NP | |||
| Taylor Decker | T | ankle | LP | |||
| Amon-Ra St. Brown | WR | abdomen | LP | |||
| Khalil Dorsey | CB | illness | FP | |||
| Frank Ragnow | C | toe/resting player | FP |
plus the Injury Reserve List:
- Shane Zylstra TE*
- Nate Sudfeld QB*
- Josh Paschal DE
- Khalil Dorsey CB (close to returning)
- CJ Gardner-Johnson* (may return in January)
- James Houston IV LB (due back November)
- Matt Nelson OT
- Jason Cabinda FB
- Emmanuel Moseley CB*
- Justin Jackson RB (retired)*
- Hendon Hooker QB NFI
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Tampa will be a tough road opponent, but a lot has changed in the 3 years since they last played them. And if the Lions do lose it won't be because of the color of Tampa's uniforms.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Trades. Any moves we’d like to see ? Feels like a push some chips in year maybe, but specially given the injured on back end of the D. Surtain ?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Besides getting Starling Thomas back from the Cardinals?
Trade Deadline is Halloween (Tue 10/31) - day after the Week 8 MNF at home v Raiders
Agreed that replacing Emmanuel Moseley is the most logical target
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Our DL is playing well and has players who will come back soon. Our secondary is playing OK and it's depth is depleted. A starting DB has to be primary target with depth on OL our secondary need. Brad will only pull a deal if it is cheap in terms of draft capitol and long term commitment. Brad is building towards sustainable success.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Does Hutch typically play over the RT/LT? Moves around? Tampa's tackles have played well this year. I wonder if they can neutralize him somewhat.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Enjoy the ride guys!! If ever a fanbase deserved to have a good team, it is Detroit football. I was wrong about how good they would be this year!!
Lion to myself
Footballguy
From what I’ve seen he mostly lines up against the right side of the offensive line but they do move him to the left from time to time. They have also moved him inside over the guard on obvious passing downs which has been effective. So fun to watch this guy and happy we got ‘em!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Moves around. 3-tech, 5-tech, wide 9….everything except 1-tech. Also drops into coverage frequently (4 interceptions.) Relentless motor but pretty diverse arsenal of moves. Chop & bend, spin, bull rush. He’s heavier & stronger than last year. Plays more snaps than any other elite Edge bc his stamina & fitness is insane.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Early this season Detroit has a 35 yard TD to Kalif Raymond on a Flea Flicker.
They put that play on the call sheet bc Seth Ryan - Rex’s kid, assistant to WRs Coach Antwaan Randle El - noticed the S cheating. Goff and Ben Johnson hyped him up in media interviews.
Similar deal this week. 1) This play came from watching William & Mary film (Colby Sorsdal’s alma mater), 2) Steven Oliver, assistant to OL Coach Hank Fraley, noticed the IDL took a quick breather fm their 3-point to rock back on the haunches or even take a knee. Carolina was ripe for it.
Love that Ben made sure he got the credit in his weekly presser. They’re so intentional with everything they do. Including staff development.
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The other trick play, the handoff-reverse-pitch back-wheel route to the TE, copied by the 49ers 6 hours later, has been around for years. Ben previously dialed it up for David Blough (2021? I don’t remember that, probably didn’t work.)
They put that play on the call sheet bc Seth Ryan - Rex’s kid, assistant to WRs Coach Antwaan Randle El - noticed the S cheating. Goff and Ben Johnson hyped him up in media interviews.
Similar deal this week. 1) This play came from watching William & Mary film (Colby Sorsdal’s alma mater), 2) Steven Oliver, assistant to OL Coach Hank Fraley, noticed the IDL took a quick breather fm their 3-point to rock back on the haunches or even take a knee. Carolina was ripe for it.
Love that Ben made sure he got the credit in his weekly presser. They’re so intentional with everything they do. Including staff development.
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The other trick play, the handoff-reverse-pitch back-wheel route to the TE, copied by the 49ers 6 hours later, has been around for years. Ben previously dialed it up for David Blough (2021? I don’t remember that, probably didn’t work.)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Alex Anzalone's parents were in Israel when the war broke out last week and were trapped there for several days. Been a stressful week for 34, uncertain of what would happen.
They're now on their way home, thankfully safe and sound.
They're now on their way home, thankfully safe and sound.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Brothers in Honolulu Blue
According to a website claiming to have run 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season, the Lions Week 6 Playoff Probability Leverage is 82.9%. That’s 4th best. Top 3:
According to a website claiming to have run 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season, the Lions Week 6 Playoff Probability Leverage is 82.9%. That’s 4th best. Top 3:
- SF 98.6%
- PHI 97.6%
- KCC 96.7%
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
NBD losing your RB4/STer but that’s six season ending injuries before Week 6.
WTAF
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
@davebirkett
No Jahmyr Gibbs, Brian Branch, Jonah Jackson or Teddy Bridgewater at Lions practice today but Sam LaPorta was back. Josh Paschal back at practice from IR, too.
No Jahmyr Gibbs, Brian Branch, Jonah Jackson or Teddy Bridgewater at Lions practice today but Sam LaPorta was back. Josh Paschal back at practice from IR, too.
Knight, Garder-Johnson, Mosely, Jefferson, Nelson, and who?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Shane the Insane Zylstra
Also, doesn’t count but Justin Jackson retired and for awhile he looked like a lock for RB3.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
yeah, S CJ Moore - got the more serious indefinite ban IIRC (can apply for reinstatement after 1 year I believe)
over 1000 special teams snaps the last 4 years. on 3 fake punts under Fipp/MCDC, he had 3 rush attempts for 83 yards, all successful first down plays. the 42 yarder v MIN changed the whole game.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lions fans on the plane to Tampa singing Gridiron Heroes (aka Forward Down the Field)
Painful listen, do not recommend, but I love the commitment. Noteworthy my man has his road whites jersey on, that's a true fan right there.
Painful listen, do not recommend, but I love the commitment. Noteworthy my man has his road whites jersey on, that's a true fan right there.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
LIONS PR X acct:
Today is16's 29th birthday.
Below are his rankings in NFL history thru age 28:
- 4th in completions (2,361)
- 4th in QB rating [2,500 att. min.] (93.3)
- 5th in passing yds. (27,119)
- 5th in pass attempts (3,661)
- t-6th in passing TDs (164)
Today is16's 29th birthday.
Below are his rankings in NFL history thru age 28:
- 4th in completions (2,361)
- 4th in QB rating [2,500 att. min.] (93.3)
- 5th in passing yds. (27,119)
- 5th in pass attempts (3,661)
- t-6th in passing TDs (164)
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Not bad for a throw in. Still overlooked by many.
To hear people talking around here they think this game is a gimme just like Seattle. Not so sure about that. I think the Lions win a close one.
Another note, like the Tampa Creamsicles better that what they wear now.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Love the Creamsicle, it's the best.
Is that how local radio is calling it this week? ****ing A man, Bucs are a tough out.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lions announced roster moves today:
Placed on Reserve/Injured:
Signing to the 53-man means 3 guaranteed game checks at the vet min. That’s 3x his practice squad vet salary ($17K /week.) Haopy for the big man & his family.
Jonah Jackson out means Glasgow & Vaitai starting together - haven’t seen this G combo but both have been grading out excellent this year. Skip had an exceptionally good debut (PFF 77.5) and can fill in at either G spot & be the swing tackle / 6th OL in short yardage.
Dorsey will likely take over Kickoff returns and Ozigbo will take the Knight / Craig Reynolds ST snaps since #13 is the backup RB this week.
Placed on Reserve/Injured:
- RB Zonavon Bam Knight
- CBEmmanuel Moseley
- DB Khalil Dorsey
- OL Dan Skipper
- RB Devine Ozigbo
Signing to the 53-man means 3 guaranteed game checks at the vet min. That’s 3x his practice squad vet salary ($17K /week.) Haopy for the big man & his family.
Jonah Jackson out means Glasgow & Vaitai starting together - haven’t seen this G combo but both have been grading out excellent this year. Skip had an exceptionally good debut (PFF 77.5) and can fill in at either G spot & be the swing tackle / 6th OL in short yardage.
Dorsey will likely take over Kickoff returns and Ozigbo will take the Knight / Craig Reynolds ST snaps since #13 is the backup RB this week.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
For those handful of people who bet on football games here are the latest point spreads from our friends at draft kings.
Detroit -3 o/u 42.5
Next week, Favorite is Balt -2.5 o/u 45
Detroit -3 o/u 42.5
Next week, Favorite is Balt -2.5 o/u 45
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I doubt if it counts as a look ahead game but Bucs do have a division game in Atlanta next Sunday.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Actually I should have made it clearer that it's Balt favored.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
OK makes more sense. I forgot how betters typically list the spread (DET +2.5 BAL -2.5) and presumed that was from the Lions perspective.
Good thing I don’t bet. Wanna take a run at explaining the money line to me? lol
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Today the Lions are -166
You would have to risk 166 to win 100. You win even if they only win by 1.
Tampa is +140. You risk 100 to win 140.
You would lose if Bucs lost by 1.
Money lines basically buy or sell away the points to make it where it's just pick the winner.
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Broadcasters (at least the parts I care to catch) seem to be in the "cautious optimism" category. But there are definitely a share of fans that are about half a step below the old SNL skits involving the Bear Superfans.
Not going to be easy. As has been laid out elsewhere, 3 of next 4 on the road, all those road games against teams capable of making the playoffs. 2-2 isn't what you hope for but certainly could be in the cards, though I'm hoping for 3-1. If Detroit manages to go 4-0 in that stretch, the world may run out of Kool-aid because Lions fans drank it all.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
It's hard to get measured responses with many casual fans. It's either Super Bowl parade or waiting for one loss to jump off the bandwagon and scream SOL.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Wifey bought our Ravens tickets early this summer (for my late summer birthday present) by calling the Ravens box office. They were super helpful. 16th row in the section allocated for the Lions player families & non-football staff, behind the visitors bench at the 25 yard line.
Massive difference between coming in 5-1 and 4-2. Hoping they TCB today. Gonna be great either way but would be way more festive if they were on a winning streak.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Ravens win a London slugfest vs Titans. Another first place team up next for the Lions.
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