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2025 Detroit Lions: 0-0 Draft, FAs, trades? (5 Viewers)

Ok, fair. He's heavy but also pretty tall- similar build to Hutch and maybe opposite of him you want more of stout edge.

just remembered something Mike Renner said. we fall in love with lean speed rushers, but the guys who really succeed at the next level can convert speed to power. one thing he thinks is a detriment that front offices understand but fans don't consider is taller guys all seem to have the same weakness - pad level. they tend to play too upright and that makes it easier to knock them off their base with a two-handed punch.

not a universal fault but thought that was insightful.
 
things to like about Isaac TeSlaa:
  • really good at contested catches, 71.4% last season.

    of course that usually means a WR is a Kenny Golladay type who will fight for the ball and knows how to high point, but ALSO they get in those situations because they don't create enough separation. he has a good 40 time, but not so crisp getting in and out of breaks.

  • high school Wing-T quarterback. don't think that is relevant but it is pretty hilarious.

  • showed up for his in person visit wearing a Lions jersey. Holmes was thinking "that's pretty cheesy....what's up with that, man?" he said hey I've had this jersey for 9 years, I was a die hard Lions fan growing up in west Michigan. "OK. Respect."

  • 77 seconds of highlights from the last two seasons
 
Bootleg Football live stream take on Ahmed Hassanein
  • character off the charts, exactly the kind of guy Holmes/Campbell love adding
  • crazy life story - grew up in Egypt, originally a wrestler
  • plays like a wrestler, strong, great hand work, incredible motor and stamina, it never stops
  • good balance, not a quick get off/first step, not super bendy, but gets every ounce out of his physical gifts
  • not great athleticism but A+ effort
yep, that's their type
 
I've had this jersey for 9 years, I was a die hard Lions fan growing up in west Michigan.
West Michigan? At least he didn't grow up a Bears fan, he'll always have that going for him.

Hudsonville, roughly halfway between GR and Holland

I'm from Grand Haven (another beach town on Lake Michigan) and the number of Bears/Bulls/Cubs fans is loathsome

but I do love trolling them when I'm home
 
Bootleg Football live stream take on Ahmed Hassanein
  • character off the charts, exactly the kind of guy Holmes/Campbell love adding
  • crazy life story - grew up in Egypt, originally a wrestler
  • plays like a wrestler, strong, great hand work, incredible motor and stamina, it never stops
  • good balance, not a quick get off/first step, not super bendy, but gets every ounce out of his physical gifts
  • not great athleticism but A+ effort
yep, that's their type
Noticed that thing about the first step in the clip they showed. He was the last guy off the line.
 
another UGA guy, S Dan Jackson, at pick 230

nothing special AFAIK but probably a gritty special teamer / practice squad-scout team in 2025

roll out the white DB cliches



this late you're just taking cuts, none of these guys left are special athletes but who knows, maybe you get lucky once a decade
 
catching up with the DFN recap of picks…



Lions trade up again for an o-lineman, selecting LSU's Frazier in the fifth round​


Allen Park — For the third time in two days, the Detroit Lions packaged multiple picks to move up in the 2025 NFL Draft, sending a sixth and seventh-round selection to the New England Patriots for No. 171 overall in the fifth round to take LSU offensive lineman Miles Frazier.

A three-year starter at LSU, Frazier is a plus athlete with excellent size, measuring in at 6-foot-5 and 317 pounds during the pre-draft process. He played left tackle for Florida International in 2021 before transferring to LSU, where he transitioned to the interior, seeing time at both left and right guard, with the latter position being his primary position over the past two seasons.

During that two-season stretch, Frazier thrived in pass protection, allowing just one sack and 19 total pressures.

To acquire Frazier, the Lions shipped out picks No. 182 and 228 to the Patriots in this year’s draft. The LSU product is the second offensive lineman drafted by Detroit this year, following Tate Ratledge, who the team secured in the second round on Friday with the 57th pick.



Lions land Boise State edge rusher Ahmed Hassanein in sixth round​


Allen Park — The Detroit Lions added depth to the team’s defensive line in the sixth round of the 2025 NFL Draft, selecting Boise State defensive end Ahmed Hassanein with the No. 196 pick.

Born in the United States, Hassanein spent much of his life in Egypt, not picking up football until moving back to the U.S. in 2018.

The 6-foot-3, 267-pounder played four seasons at Boise State, moving into the starting lineup as a junior. In 28 games over the past two seasons, he racked up 22.0 sacks and 33 tackles for a loss.

A plus athlete, Hassanein impressed by putting up 32 reps on the bench press at Boise State’s pro day. Prior to committing to football, he participated in multiple sports, including judo, swimming and boxing. As a young teenager, he was a world-ranked CrossFit athlete.



Lions bolster safety depth with Georgia's Dan Jackson in the seventh round​


Allen Park — The Detroit Lions addressed another roster need in the seventh round, adding Georgia safety Dan Jackson with the No. 230 pick overall.

Appearing in 14 games as a senior, the six-foot, 194-pound Jackson tallied 64 tackles, two interceptions and a forced fumble. During the pre-draft process, Jackson tested well, particularly with his 40-yard dash, which he ran in 4.45 seconds.

Jackson also played on multiple special teams for the Bulldogs, blocking both a punt and field goal during his time at the school. He earned praise from the team's coaching staff for his relentless effort.

"Daniel Jackson is the most untold story on our team," Georgia coach Kirby Smart said last year. "The guy came from I don't know where, walk-on. He runs a 4.5 all of a sudden his freshman year. Where did we get this guy?

"He's a good football player," Smart said. "…All he does is give everything he's got every single day."

Jackson is expected to compete for the third safety job in Detroit behind starters Kerby Joseph and Brian Branch. Ifeatu Melifonwu filled that role last season before departing for an opportunity in Miami as a free agent.

From Dane Brugler's "Beast" on Jackson: "Described as “phenomenal” teammate because of a positive attitude and work ethic that raises the bar (Smart: “All he does is give everything he’s got every single day.”)"



We’re on the clock for 244, 7th and last pick of the Lions 2025 draft class

‘bama TE maybe? Inline blocker, have to take at least one from Tuscaloosa as it’s tradition
 
90-man DL:

Hutch, Davenport, Al-Quadin, Hassanein

Reader, Alim, Tyleik, Lopez, Martin, O’Connor, Levi O, Paschal, Wingo

Think that’s everyone but might have forgotten someone

ETA

possibly Z Smith since he’s still a FA and hanging around Detroit
 
Bootleg guys said Dan Jackson will be the best punt return coverage gunner in the draft

PFF ST grade 88.7



Detroit's Mr Irrelevant, pick 244 in the 7th round

Dominic Lovett​

OVR RK: 257 • POS RK: 32 • HT: 5-10 • WT: 185

Shifty pass catcher that creates yards after the catch. Route-running is a bit rogue, but put the ball in his hands at or near the line of scrimmage and he. can make defenders miss. (Josh Edwards)

Rating: 70.90 (Roster depth)
Pro Comparison: Isaiah McKenzie
Summary
Dominic Lovett is a short, well-built receiver with good length for his stature. Primarily used in the screen game, he plays with a no-nonsense attitude and flashes quality twitch after the catch, though he’s not overly elusive or consistent at breaking tackles. His athleticism doesn’t fully translate to making defenders miss, but his stop-start ability is top-tier, and he runs hard with the ball.


As a route runner, Lovett shows flashes of fluidity but lacks refinement. While cornerbacks can stick to him in coverage, he has the footwork and competitiveness to develop in press situations. His hands are reliable, and he catches passes outside his frame naturally, but he struggles against physical defenders and isn’t consistently a winner in traffic. His long speed is more impressive than his burst, surprising defenders when he gets up to full speed, though he’s not explosive off the line or through the intermediate level. Lovett profiles as a gadget-friendly slot receiver with a well-rounded but unspectacular skill set, lacking a defining trait to separate him.
About
  • 2024 (at Georgia): Team-high 59 receptions
  • 2022 (at Missouri): Second-team All-SEC
Strengths
  • Plays with a no-nonsense style and displays high-end stop-start ability
  • Natural hands-catcher with a large catch radius and reliable pass-catching skills
  • Shows burst and power in the open field after the catch
Weaknesses
  • Route-running lacks fluidity and separation ability against tight coverage
  • Lacks elite initial burst and struggles to consistently separate
  • Limited by his lack of a defining trait to distinguish him as a top receiver
Combine Data
  • 40-yard dash: 4.4 seconds
  • Vertical jump: 33-5 inches
  • 20-yard shuttle run: 4.27 seconds
  • Broad jump: 10 feet, 0 inch
2024 College Stats

GP 14​

REC 59

YDS 607

AVG 10.3

TDS 6

:shrug:
 

Lions round out draft class by drafting a third Georgia player, WR Dominic Lovett​


Allen Park — The Detroit Lions rounded out the team’s 2025 draft class with another wide receiver and a third Georgia Bulldog, selecting Dominic Lovett with the No. 244 pick in the seventh round.

Starting his college career at Missouri, the 5-foot-10, 185-pounder transferred to Georgia ahead of the 2023 season. Primarily operating out of the slot, he averaged 57 catches for 610 yards the past two seasons, scoring 10 touchdowns.

Lovett didn’t play on many special teams at Georgia but does have experience serving as a gunner on punt coverage.

He rubber-stamped his resume by running a 4.40-second 40-yard dash.
 

2025 Detroit Lions UDFA tracker

  • RB Anthony Tyus, Ohio (source)
  • TE Caden Prieskorn, Ole Miss (source)
  • WR Jackson Meeks, Syracuse (source) — $200,000 guaranteed
  • WR Jakobie Keeney-James, UMass (source)
  • OL Mason Miller, North Dakota State (source)
  • OL Leif Fautanu, Arizona State (source)
  • S Ian Kennelly, Grand Valley State (source)
@Leroy Hoard Meeks is the nephew

for all we know Z is only hanging around the D because his gf is rapper Kash Doll

he is not great in their run fits but without question he is a productive Edge, would love to see him come back
 
I imagine this will be their smallest UDFA class of the decade because the 90 man is nearly full

IDK all the details of how the mechanics work though

IIRC the local guys might be rookie minicamp tryout invites who don’t count against the roster for the time being

Zotger than that not sure about where we are at
 

Detroit Lions 2025 UDFA signing tracker



Here are the reported undrafted free agent signings for the Detroit Lions following the 2025 NFL draft. The team finished the draft with 10 open roster spots.

This post will be updated as new agreements are reached. If you’re reading via email, please check back via the main site: DetroitFootball.net.

Leif Fautanu, C, Arizona State

A two-year starter at UNLV who finished with two more seasons at Arizona State, Fautanu exclusively played center during his college career, logging more than 3,000 snaps. He measured in at 6-foot-1, 298 pounds, with long arms and massive hands.

Jakobie Keeney-James, WR, UMass

An extremely athletic outside receiver who measured just under six feet and weighed 190 pounds. Keeney-James posted elite results in every drill, including the bench press (17 reps) and a 4.37-second 40-yard dash after catching 50 passes for 839 yards and six touchdowns last season. He spent five years at Eastern Washington before transferring to UMass.

Ian Kennelly, S, Grand Valley State

Possessing great size and athleticism, the 6-foot-2, 209-pounder posted excellent results in the 40-yard dash, broad jump and short shuttle. Earning First-Team All-GLIAC honors last season, Kennelly recorded 64 tackles and three interceptions. A Michigan native, he played his high school ball for Utica Eisenhower.

Mason Miller, OL, North Dakota State

The other North Dakota offensive tackle, Miller played opposite first-round pick Gray Zabel. Miller is 6-foot-7, 306 pounds. He started 41 games the past three seasons, earning first-team FCS All-American honors from the Associated Press in 2024. He has starting experience at right tackle and left guard.

Jackson Meeks, WR, Syracuse

After struggling to see the field for three seasons at Georgia, Meeks transferred to Syracuse and caught 78 balls for 1,021 yards and seven scores in 2024. Primarily an outside receiver with some special teams experience, he showed impressive ability in his pre-draft testing yet ran a subpar 40-yard dash for his position (4.64 seconds). According to his Wikipedia page, Meeks is the nephew of former Lions defensive end Za’Darius Smith.

Caden Prieskorn, TE, Ole Miss

A long and lean tight end, measuring in at 6-foot-5 and 246 pounds. Prieskorn spent three seasons at Memphis before finishing up his college career with two years at Ole Miss. He averaged 484 receiving yards and five touchdowns over his final three seasons.

Anthony Tyus III, RB, Ohio

A thickly built back at 6-foot-1, 220 pounds, Tyus didn’t do much during three seasons at Northwestern before exploding for 1,215 yards (5.1 yards per carry) and nine touchdowns for the Bobcats in 2024. He played for Portage High School, just outside of Kalamazoo.
 
One of those 3rd was an extra pick from losing AG.

Both Rooney Rule comp picks were used in the Jags trade

But who cares, guys are in the building, vets are at OTAs, and we’ll have football news for about a month

the worst time for me is the last 3 weeks of June-first 3 weeks of July

facility is empty because it’s everyone’s last chance for vacay & family time before the 30~ week grind to the Super Bowl starts
 
I imagine this will be their smallest UDFA class of the decade because the 90 man is nearly full

IDK all the details of how the mechanics work though

IIRC the local guys might be rookie minicamp tryout invites who don’t count against the roster for the time being

Zotger than that not sure about where we are at
It's been a good journey seeing the Lions roster contain so many talented players. We were playing so many FAs in Brad's first year. The defensive backfield just bled yards and scores. But whoever they put out there played hard.
 

2025 Detroit Lions UDFA tracker

  • RB Anthony Tyus, Ohio (source)
  • TE Caden Prieskorn, Ole Miss (source)
  • WR Jackson Meeks, Syracuse (source) — $200,000 guaranteed
  • WR Jakobie Keeney-James, UMass (source)
  • OL Mason Miller, North Dakota State (source)
  • OL Leif Fautanu, Arizona State (source)
  • S Ian Kennelly, Grand Valley State (source)
@Leroy Hoard Meeks is the nephew
I can hear the conspiracy theory already. Meeks the only one getting guaranteed money = package deal.

At least that's how it works in some businesses. :tinfoilhat:
 

2025 Detroit Lions UDFA tracker

  • RB Anthony Tyus, Ohio (source)
  • TE Caden Prieskorn, Ole Miss (source)
  • WR Jackson Meeks, Syracuse (source) — $200,000 guaranteed
  • WR Jakobie Keeney-James, UMass (source)
  • OL Mason Miller, North Dakota State (source)
  • OL Leif Fautanu, Arizona State (source)
  • S Ian Kennelly, Grand Valley State (source)
@Leroy Hoard Meeks is the nephew
I can hear the conspiracy theory already. Meeks the only one getting guaranteed money = package deal.

At least that's how it works in some businesses. :tinfoilhat:

you owe us one, Z

Brad is such a villain
 

Lions GM Holmes wraps up the 2025 NFL Draft with thoughts on his Day 3 picks​


Lions general manager Brad Holmes met with the media to wrap up the 2025 NFL Draft on Saturday night. Here are some of the highlights from that Q&A.

● Maybe it’s not intentional in his selection process, but Holmes’ confidence in certain college programs is readily apparent and undoubtedly rooted in his scouting experience.

During his tenure as Detroit’s general manager, he’s pulled multiple prospects from certain schools. In the past, Iowa and Alabama were at the top of that list. This week, Georgia closed some ground with the Lions drafting three players from the college powerhouse.

Holmes was quick to remind us that he had been stationed in Atlanta as a regional scout for years while with the Rams, which provided him regular access to the school and enhanced his appreciation for how it operates.

“Obviously have been to Georgia practices a lot, and have been around that program a lot, and it’s unlike anything else that I’ve seen live, in terms of a college practice, in terms of just the intensity,” Holmes said. "Nick) Saban, at Alabama, was very similar. But just the intensity, the physicality, the detail, the tempo, the whole thing, the energy, I mean, it’s just — when you can go through that kind of regimen and you practice like that, they’re ready. I think everything that (Georgia coach Kirby) Smart’s done with that program, I think everything speaks for itself.”

● Detroit added multiple players on Day 3 who should contribute on special teams. That’s not uncommon, as it’s often the path for late-round prospects to earn a roster spot. Holmes went as far as to say it’s frequently a deciding factor when weighing similar prospects.

“Take wide receiver, if there’s another player that’s just maybe a little bit better route runner, or maybe has a little bit better hands, but if he doesn’t have the attitude or the skillset to contribute on special teams — you’re talking about battling for a fifth spot — we’re going with the guy that can contribute on special teams,” Holmes said.

The GM quipped that special teams coordinator Dave Fipp could run the team’s draft in the later rounds.

● Because of the external fascination with adding an edge rusher, combined with the intense personality and unique background of sixth-round draft pick Ahmed Hassanein, there were predictably a lot of questions about the selection.

Holmes said he started watching the Boise State defender’s tape after he was announced as a Shrine Bowl participant. It didn’t take long for the general manager to get a feel for Hassanein’s effort and playing style.

“We acquired him because he plays with his hair on fire, and as, let’s call it developmental as he is, he just, he plays hard,” Holmes said. “I think I said the other night, what do you have to do at that position? You’ve got to set edges and win rushes. And when I say win rushes, it’s not just getting a sack. You can win rushes just by harassment, and power, and collapsing the pocket, and just sheer effort.

“We just liked the upside of him,” Holmes continued. “We like his football character, his work ethic, his passion. He was so fired up on the phone to get here. That’s the type of stuff you want to hear. He’s been one of those guys that sometimes they start off as one of the favorites and then sometimes they might drift off because you see so much and you do so much film, but he’s a guy that just kept staying on the steady climb and ascension the more and more and more we watched of him.”

Holmes said he’s confident Hassanein will do everything to squeeze every bit of potential out of his body.

“He’s going to be very, very coachable,” Holmes said. “The kid would probably sleep in this facility if he could. That’s kind of what his makeup is.”

Will the selection be enough to quell those outside concerns about the position? Holmes is skeptical.

"I don’t know," he said. "You guys have been on my *** pretty hard on it. It was just a little bit, I was like, ‘Sixth round, is that – I don’t know if that suffices.’"

● Holmes raved about second-round pick Tate Ratlegde’s underrated versatility a night earlier, then traded up for LSU’s Miles Frazier in the fifth round. His resume includes playing time at left tackle, left guard, and right guard. Frazier played mostly inside at LSU but confirmed he was also the Tigers' primary backup at both tackle spots during the 2024 season.

I asked Holmes how he goes about deciding how many different spots to try a rookie lineman. The GM said those decisions are made by the coaching staff and depend on the player. I followed up by asking if either Ratledge or Frazier could see time at center during their first offseason with the team.

“Yeah, absolutely,” Holmes said. “(Offensive line coach) Hank (Fraley), he’ll cross-train all those guys. He’s going to cross-train all of those guys, so if they’ve only been at guard, he’s going to put a ball between their legs and see if they can snap.

“(But) Hank’s not going to put somebody in a tough position, either,” Holmes continued. “He’s going to be able to assess if they have the right makeup and mentality and communicative skills. That’s a big part of just — it’s not about just being able to snap. I mean, you have to have elite communication skills, not just as a starter, but even as a backup.”

● Some questioned whether the drafting of two interior offensive linemen might impact veteran Graham Glasgow’s roster spot. Holmes quieted those rumblings by emphasizing the critical role the veteran could have as a mentor to the slew of young linemen on the roster.

“I think he’s going to be very valuable,” Holmes said. “You’re talking about another one that’s got legit, proven positional versatility, as well. Just with his experience, having legit stripes on the wall, glad that we still have him and I think he can help a lot of those young guys.”
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
Much love to you, get better. We will need you in game shape by week 1.
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
God Bless you and praying for your return to good health.
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
Thoughts and prayers @BobbyLayne, appreciate you.
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season

All the best on your health journey! You are a valuable asset to these boards
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
Still plenty of time in the offseason for you to recover!

In all seriousness, I hope treatment is successful and recovery is quick. We need you around here to keep us in line.
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
Bobby Layne was a snarly tough SOB and a winner and so is his namesake.
 
I might not be around much between now and the season opener

having some health issues which will need to be addressed this spring & summer

not sure of the outcome, still have a couple specialists to consult before starting treatment

could be a bit of a slog but feeling well supported by wifey, kids, church fam, siblings, & trusted advisors

gives fresh perspective to my favorite refrain just once before I die Lord

:lol:

feeling optimistic but just don't have enough information to say anthing with certainty

grateful for the care I'll be receiving from the Brooklyn VA Medical Center



Have a great summer y'all, looking forward to the 2026 season
Take care and good luck!
 
I've had this jersey for 9 years, I was a die hard Lions fan growing up in west Michigan.
West Michigan? At least he didn't grow up a Bears fan, he'll always have that going for him.

Hudsonville, roughly halfway between GR and Holland

I'm from Grand Haven (another beach town on Lake Michigan) and the number of Bears/Bulls/Cubs fans is loathsome

but I do love trolling them when I'm home
FYI.. TeSlaa was the QB for Unity Christian in 2018 when they played against my old high school team in the District Championship game on their way to the State Title that year. We led 35-8 at halftime and blew the game.

Junior quarterback Isaac TeSlaa sparked the rally. He opened the third with a 56-yard sprint to the end zone, and continued to showcase his speed and playmaking ability, totaling 116 yards on 16 carries in the game.
 
Personally, I think they wanted Pearce and Atlanta traded up in front of them. Brad got out GM'd by the Falcons.
This is hilarious.
My apologies. For a moment I forgot varying opinions are forbidden in this thread.
You know better by now 🤓… I agree that they wanted someone (not sure it was Pearce as I thought I read he had some character concerns- could be wing on that though). The war room didn’t have its normal energy after their first round pick which seemed odd.
 
Personally, I think they wanted Pearce and Atlanta traded up in front of them. Brad got out GM'd by the Falcons.
This is hilarious.
My apologies. For a moment I forgot varying opinions are forbidden in this thread.
Going back to your comment about Holmes being out GM'd by the Falcons...assuming he wanted Pearce, he certainly wasn't going to overpay like the Falcons did. That was a terrible trade for the Falcons. The Rams committed highway robbery. Personally I don't think Pearce was on their board due to character concerns.
 
Cross posted from the rate your teams draft thread:

Detroit Lions:

I give the Williams pick a B+. Reports were that he was the last D-lineman in his bucket. I don't think Holmes was enamored with the edges there. Elite run defender with upside as a pass rusher. Comp was Alim McNeill.

I liked the trade up for Ratledge. The cost was a bit much but well worth it imo. I love his game. The pick gets an A from me.

The TeSlaa pick gets a B- and the trade up gets a D+. He is an elite athlete with great size and speed but somewhat raw with route running. Great hands, tough and willing run blocker. Lots of upside here but wasn't very productive. I just thought he could have at least waited until the middle of the 3rd but who knows.

Frazier is an A because of where he was drafted. The value was tremendous. The interior offensive line is younger and better. It's the best depth we've had in years.

Hassanein gets a B-. He is pretty good, high energy relentless motor character guy...basically a Detroit Lions kind of player. When asked about Dan Campbell, he said, "I'll die for that guy". He had some success at Boise State but is a 6th round pick for a reason.

The last 2 picks, Jackson and Lovett both get a C. Basically end of roster types.

Overall B. I liked the players enough to give them a higher grade but can't because they didn't get an edge rusher. I especially loved getting the two guards.
 
uRegarding TeSlaa I listened to a podcast and the guy said his friend is on speaking terms with an AFC South Coach who told him that TeSlaa was ranked as an early 3rd draft choice by them.

What do they say a drowning man will grasp at a straw. Well that’s the straw I’m throwing out to Lions fans.
 
Personally, I think they wanted Pearce and Atlanta traded up in front of them. Brad got out GM'd by the Falcons.
This is hilarious.
My apologies. For a moment I forgot varying opinions are forbidden in this thread.
Going back to your comment about Holmes being out GM'd by the Falcons...assuming he wanted Pearce, he certainly wasn't going to overpay like the Falcons did. That was a terrible trade for the Falcons. The Rams committed highway robbery. Personally I don't think Pearce was on their board due to character concerns.
Well, if they wanted Pearce, he did get out-GM'd. Now, perhaps they tried to trade up and the price was too high. Fair.
Or maybe they didn't try at all. We will never know.

I would argue the trade up for TeSlaa was a bad trade. We gave up a ton for him. Would have preferred seeing those 3rd rounders used to move up for an edge.

Doesn't matter. It is what it is at this point.

I would say the Lions are slightly improved on paper from last year. But so are many teams they are competing with.
Philly is equal to or better than last year.
The entire NFC North improved. Perhaps not the Vikings.
Washington is better.
Combine that with a very difficult 1st place schedule and their work is cut out for them this season.
 
Personally, I think they wanted Pearce and Atlanta traded up in front of them. Brad got out GM'd by the Falcons.
This is hilarious.
My apologies. For a moment I forgot varying opinions are forbidden in this thread.
Going back to your comment about Holmes being out GM'd by the Falcons...assuming he wanted Pearce, he certainly wasn't going to overpay like the Falcons did. That was a terrible trade for the Falcons. The Rams committed highway robbery. Personally I don't think Pearce was on their board due to character concerns.
Well, if they wanted Pearce, he did get out-GM'd. Now, perhaps they tried to trade up and the price was too high. Fair.
Or maybe they didn't try at all. We will never know.

I would argue the trade up for TeSlaa was a bad trade. We gave up a ton for him. Would have preferred seeing those 3rd rounders used to move up for an edge.

Doesn't matter. It is what it is at this point.

I would say the Lions are slightly improved on paper from last year. But so are many teams they are competing with.
Philly is equal to or better than last year.
The entire NFC North improved. Perhaps not the Vikings.
Washington is better.
Combine that with a very difficult 1st place schedule and their work is cut out for them this season.
I would say the Vikings (barring McCarthy performing adequately) and Bears are greatly improved from last year. It is going to be a tough hill to climb in that division.
 
Winning the division is the first order of business. Continue to win those 6 division games and you have a big leg up. 8 of the 11 remaining games are all common opponents (NFC East and AFC North). The entire division has to deal with better teams than last year when they played the 2 Souths. Which could mean no wild card teams this year. And of course those extra 3 games vs first place teams won't make things any easier in the regular season. First just win the division. Lions are the current favorite, but not by a lot.
 
Personally, I think they wanted Pearce and Atlanta traded up in front of them. Brad got out GM'd by the Falcons.
This is hilarious.
My apologies. For a moment I forgot varying opinions are forbidden in this thread.
Going back to your comment about Holmes being out GM'd by the Falcons...assuming he wanted Pearce, he certainly wasn't going to overpay like the Falcons did. That was a terrible trade for the Falcons. The Rams committed highway robbery. Personally I don't think Pearce was on their board due to character concerns.
Well, if they wanted Pearce, he did get out-GM'd. Now, perhaps they tried to trade up and the price was too high. Fair.
Or maybe they didn't try at all. We will never know.

I would argue the trade up for TeSlaa was a bad trade. We gave up a ton for him. Would have preferred seeing those 3rd rounders used to move up for an edge.

Doesn't matter. It is what it is at this point.

I would say the Lions are slightly improved on paper from last year. But so are many teams they are competing with.
Philly is equal to or better than last year.
The entire NFC North improved. Perhaps not the Vikings.
Washington is better.
Combine that with a very difficult 1st place schedule and their work is cut out for them this season.
I would say the Vikings (barring McCarthy performing adequately) and Bears are greatly improved from last year. It is going to be a tough hill to climb in that division.
How are the vikings greatly improved? The bears added a bunch of FAs that you never know how it works out and have a rookie HC. Albeit can't be much worse than the last guy.
 
Personally, I think they wanted Pearce and Atlanta traded up in front of them. Brad got out GM'd by the Falcons.
This is hilarious.
My apologies. For a moment I forgot varying opinions are forbidden in this thread.
Going back to your comment about Holmes being out GM'd by the Falcons...assuming he wanted Pearce, he certainly wasn't going to overpay like the Falcons did. That was a terrible trade for the Falcons. The Rams committed highway robbery. Personally I don't think Pearce was on their board due to character concerns.
Well, if they wanted Pearce, he did get out-GM'd. Now, perhaps they tried to trade up and the price was too high. Fair.
Or maybe they didn't try at all. We will never know.

I would argue the trade up for TeSlaa was a bad trade. We gave up a ton for him. Would have preferred seeing those 3rd rounders used to move up for an edge.

Doesn't matter. It is what it is at this point.

I would say the Lions are slightly improved on paper from last year. But so are many teams they are competing with.
Philly is equal to or better than last year.
The entire NFC North improved. Perhaps not the Vikings.
Washington is better.
Combine that with a very difficult 1st place schedule and their work is cut out for them this season.
I would say the Vikings (barring McCarthy performing adequately) and Bears are greatly improved from last year. It is going to be a tough hill to climb in that division.
How are the vikings greatly improved? The bears added a bunch of FAs that you never know how it works out and have a rookie HC. Albeit can't be much worse than the last guy.
Vikings beefed up their weak point greatly (oline), will help their offense tremendously. McCarthy is the x-factor obviously.
 
I believe Teslaa has NEVER been credited with a drop in his college career. That's crazy.

I liked the pick. Just felt like we gave up quite a bit to get him.
At this point, I’m trusting in Brad and Dan. They obviously see something in this kid.

They got pretty skewered for picking Gibbs early and look how that turned out.

I’m willing to sit back and see how this turns out.
 
I believe Teslaa has NEVER been credited with a drop in his college career. That's crazy.

I liked the pick. Just felt like we gave up quite a bit to get him.
At this point, I’m trusting in Brad and Dan. They obviously see something in this kid.

They got pretty skewered for picking Gibbs early and look how that turned out.

I’m willing to sit back and see how this turns out.

How crazy is it that we all just trust the Lions front office?

I don't think that's ever happened in my 51 years on this planet.
 
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I believe Teslaa has NEVER been credited with a drop in his college career. That's crazy.

I liked the pick. Just felt like we gave up quite a bit to get him.
At this point, I’m trusting in Brad and Dan. They obviously see something in this kid.

They got pretty skewered for picking Gibbs early and look how that turned out.

I’m willing to sit back and see how this turns out.

How crazy is it that we all just trust the Lions front office?

I don't think that's every happened in my 51 years on this planet.
I agree - it's SO damn strange!
 

Admittedly too early, post-draft Detroit Lions' roster projection and analysis​


Allen Park — The 2025 NFL Draft is in the books, and the undrafted free agents will be in town next week to sign on the dotted line, fleshing out the Detroit Lions’ offseason roster.

Now seems as good a time as any to offer an early 53-man roster projection. It's an admittedly way-too-early prognostication, but what else are we to do between now and training camp?

For this exercise, we’ll include the reported UDFA signings, even though they’re not yet official. Additionally, we’re abandoning our traditional position-by-position breakdown in favor of an experimental format.

The players below will be listed under one of six categories: Locks, near-locks, one foot in the door, on the bubble, work to do, and injured list. We’ll cap the post with our 53-man roster.

Feel free to use the comment section to share your thoughts and disagreements.

Locks (37)​

Offense: QB Jared Goff, RB Jahmyr Gibbs, RB David Montgomery, RB Sione Vaki, WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR Jameson Williams, WR Tim Patrick, WR Kalif Raymond, WR Isaac TeSlaa, TE Sam LaPorta, TE Brock Wright, OT Taylor Decker, OT Penei Sewell, OT Giovanni Manu, OG Christian Mahogany, OG Tate Ragledge, OG Miles Frazier, C Frank Ragnow

Defense: Edge Aidan Hutchinson, Edge Marcus Davenport, DT DJ Reader, DT Levi Onwuzurike, DT Tyleik Williams, DT Roy Lopez, LB Alex Anzalone, LB Jack Campbell, LB Derrick Barnes, LB Grant Stuard, CB Terrion Arnold, CB D.J. Reed, CB Amik Robertson, CB Ennis Rakestraw, S Kerby Joseph, S Brian Branch

Specialists: P Jack Fox, K Jake Bates, LS Hogan Hatten

Analysis: There aren’t many points to contest here. This group is largely comprised of starters, veterans with significant guarantees on their contracts (Patrick, Raymond, and Lopez, for example), reasonably priced proven depth, or young players who have a developmental leash to prove themselves.

Near-locks (7)​

Offense: QB Hendon Hooker, OG Graham Glasgow

Defense: Edge Josh Paschal, Edge Al-Quadin Muhammad, Edge Ahmed Hassanein, CB Khalil Dorsey, CB Avonte Maddox

Analysis: Think of this group as having an 80% chance or better of making Detroit’s roster. If all seven make it, you shouldn’t be surprised.

● Hooker will enter the offseason in pole position for the backup quarterback job.

● Glasgow might end up losing his starting spot, but nearly $6 million of his $7.4 million cap hit is sunk cost in dead money. There’s little reason to eat that cost, given his ability to serve as a high-caliber, three-position backup.

● Hassanein’s already got his hooks in the fan base with his intensity and compelling path to the league. I expect a quick study who finds a way to contribute on special teams.

● Paschal and Muhammad are relatively low-cost options at a position where the Lions lack compelling depth. Most of Muhammad’s salary is guaranteed, while there’s an opportunity to clear nearly $2 million in cap space to move on from Paschal if a young player forces the Lions to reconsider.

● Dorsey signed for two years this offseason. He is one of the league’s best gunners, but he has some questions to answer after breaking his leg last season. Regardless, going in a different direction doesn't offer much cap savings.

● The Lions are only paying Maddox the veteran minimum, but the team fully guaranteed his contract. The veteran is expected to provide valuable depth at multiple spots, as well as special teams contributions.

Injured list (2)​

DT Alim McNeill, LB Malcolm Rodriguez

Analysis: McNeill and Rodriguez both tore their ACLs late last season and will likely still be rehabbing beyond Week 1 of the 2025 campaign. A couple of others may join this group, but these are the two players we can anticipate.

One foot in the door (6)​

Offense: RB Craig Reynolds, OT Dan Skipper, TE Kenny Yeboah

Defense: DT Mekhi Wingo, LB Trevor Nowaske, S Dan Jackson

Analysis: With this group, we’re talking about a better than 50% chance of making the roster if the season started today.

● Reynolds has been RB3 for the better part of three seasons and has done nothing that would suggest his grip is loosening on the role. He’s reliable in all facets of the position and can be counted on to deliver more than 200 special teams snaps.

● Skipper ran away with Detroit’s swing tackle job last offseason, earning the right to back up Decker and Sewell. Skipper doesn’t have the same hold on his job as Reynolds, with Manu, Colby Sorsdal, and Jamarco Jones in the mix.

● The third tight end spot is up for grabs. Still, based on nearly half a million in contractual guarantees awarded to Yeboah to lure him to Detroit, he has the early leg up in the competition.

● Detroit beefed up on the defensive line, and Wingo didn’t do much as a rookie before a season-ending injury. Still, I'd lean toward him sticking, especially while McNeill recovers.

● Nowaske got his first taste of defensive work last year and served as a backup Sam linebacker. Detroit didn’t draft an alternative at that spot.

● Nothing is guaranteed for a seventh-round pick. However, Jackson’s competition for the third safety job is a couple of other inexperienced options.

On the bubble (13)​

Offense: WR Dominic Lovett, OT Colby Sorsdal, OG Kayode Awosika, OG Netane Muti, OL Michael Niese, TE Shane Zylstra

Defense: DT Brodric Martin, DL Pat O’Connor, LB Ekekiel Turner, LB Anthony Pittman, CB Rock Ya-Sin, S Morice Norris, S Loren Strickland

Analysis: Offensively, Lovett could push for a spot if he pops on special teams, particularly as a gunner on punt coverage. Meanwhile, the path for the backup offensive linemen got murkier with the additions of Ratledge and Frazier in the draft. Two, potentially three of the four listed, will be left on the outside looking in. As for Zylstra, he won’t go down without a fight, possessing enough schematic experience to fend off Yeboah and some undrafted rookies.

Flipping to the defense, Martin has to show significant improvement to maintain his roster spot. The team has two nose tackles in Reader and Lopez, with the rookie Williams also possessing the size and ability to play those alignments. The others on the list are potential depth pieces who can contribute to special teams. They could play their way into jobs with a strong camp/preseason performance (or an injury ahead of them on the depth chart).

Work to do (26)​

Offense: QB Kyle Allen, RB Kye Robichaux, RB Anthony Tyus III, WR Ronnie Bell, WR Tom Kennedy, WR Jackson Meeks, WR Jakobie Keeney-James, TE Zach Horton, TE Caden Prieskorn, OT Jamarco Jones, OL Mason Miller, C Kinsley Eguakun, C Leif Fautanu

Defense: Edge Nate Lynn, Edge Isaac Ukwu, Edge Mitchell Agude, Edge Keith Cooper Jr., DT Chris Smith, DT Myles Adams, DT Laki Tasi, LB Anthony Beauplan, LB DaRon Gilbert, CB Stantley Thomas-Oliver, CB Grant Holmes, S Eric Hallett, Ian Kennelly

Analysis: I'm not about to write anyone off at this stage in the offseason. Still, this group has the biggest uphill climb to unseat more reliable options on the depth chart.

Historically, the team has entered the season with at least one undrafted rookie on the 53-man roster. As noted in our post-draft thoughts to start the week, tight end and safety are logical spots where a challenger could emerge.

It will also be interesting to watch how second-year players develop after spending their rookie seasons on the practice squad. Lynn wasn’t that fortunate, suffering a season-ending injury in the preseason. Regardless, he'd shown some pass-rushing juice in his limited window of opportunity. Others entering their second year who were in Detroit last season include Ukwu, Gilbert and Eguakun.

Projected 53-man roster​

Quarterback: Goff, Hooker

Running back: Gibbs, Montgomery, Reynolds, Vaki

Wide receiver: St. Brown, Williams, Patrick, Raymond, TeSlaa

Tight end: LaPorta, Wright, Yeboah

Offensive line: Decker, Sewell, Glasgow, Mahogany, Ragnow, Ratledge, Frazier, Manu, Skipper, Sorsdal

Edge: Hutchinson, Davenport, Paschal, Muhammad, Hassanein

Defensive tackle: Reader, Onwuzurike, Williams, Lopez, Wingo

Linebacker: Anzalone, Campbell, Barnes, Stuard, Nowaske, Turner

Cornerback: Arnold, Reed, Robertson, Rakestraw, Dorsey, Maddox

Safety: Joseph, Branch, Jackson, Norris

Specialists: Fox, Bates, Hatten

Injured lists: McNeill, Rodriguez

Final note: There’s wiggle room for adjustments at a few spots, but I feel pretty good about this projection without seeing the 2025 Lions on the practice field.

The two players I’m least confident about are Sorsdal and Norris. The back end of the offensive line depth chart is wide open. I leaned toward a Holmes draft pick because history tells me that’s the smart play.

As for Norris, Detroit might not need a fourth safety if they feel good about Maddox’s versatility and ability to backstop the position in a pinch. That opens the door for another cornerback, wide receiver, or giving Martin's development a little more time.
 

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